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Hello Neese,

Unusual hand movements can be a symptom of a rare disorder called Rett's

Syndrome. You might look at this website to see

if the characteristics are similar to those of your granddaughter.

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/rett/detail_rett.htm

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Hello to everyone,

My name is Neese, I have a two year old Granddaughter

that is doing some things that have me really

concerned. She started about 6 months ago making

movements with her hands, kind of a cross between the

motions you would make playing patty cake with the

" roll em up " gesture, and the hand washing motions

with her fingers moving. When she is doing this she

has her mouth open in an O and her little tongue is

just a working. She seems to do this when she gets

excited or is in a stressed state. I have tried to

talk to her Mother about getting her checked out but

the mother says that it is just a nervous habit. Which

I guess it could be, but then again if it is, what is

making her so nervous? I would still want it checked

out. I wanted to get more information on what the

possibilities might be before I " stick my foot in it "

so to speak with my son. She does this off and on all

day and only stops when someone distracts her.

She is perfectly normal with everything else and is

even doing well with potty training.

I have no idea where to start researching this to

determine if there is a problem that needs to be

addressed professionally. Any advise that can be

offered would be helpful.

Thank you

Neese

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Hi Neese,

Hand movements that occur with associated mouth movements can be an

indicator that work is needed with the Babkin Palmomental reflex and that

this reflex is weak. Weak reflexes are can be seen when the body is under

positive (e.g. excitement) or negative stress. I have a couple of extra

manuals from the Integration of Dynamic and Postural Reflexes course we just

held in CA that has information on the reflex and how to work with it. If

you are interested in getting one, please contact me at

val-freitas@....

Val

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Hi,

I just heard about this yesterday am trying to figure out if Samters might be what my granddaughter has. She is 12 years old and is going to have her 7th surgery for sinus polyps in two weeks. Her first surgery was when she was 3 y.o. She has asthma but I am not sure if she has a sensitivity to aspirin. We are unaware of it if that is the case. Do children have Samter's? Do any of you have any suggestions as to what to try?

She has had allergy shots and has done the nettie pot irrigation. She is becoming very discouraged and depressed.

Thanks

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Children can have Samters, unfortunately. There was a mother who would post often about her son. They tried desensitization but his stomach could not handle it. I'm so sorry she has to go through so much pain during her childhood.PamOn Mar 28, 2008, at 8:09 AM, Ot wrote:Hi,I just heard about this yesterday am trying to figure out if Samters might be what my granddaughter has. She is 12 years old and is going to have her 7th surgery for sinus polyps in two weeks. Her first surgery was when she was 3 y.o. She has asthma but I am not sure if she has a sensitivity to aspirin. We are unaware of it if that is the case. Do children have Samter's? Do any of you have any suggestions as to what to try?She has had allergy shots and has done the nettie pot irrigation. She is becoming very discouraged and depressed.ThanksNever miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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> Hi,

> I just heard about this yesterday am trying to figure out if

Samters might be what my granddaughter has. She is 12 years old and

is going to have her 7th surgery for sinus polyps in two weeks. Her

first surgery was when she was 3 y.o. She has asthma but I am not

sure if she has a sensitivity to aspirin. We are unaware of it if

that is the case. Do children have Samter's? Do any of you have any

suggestions as to what to try?

> She has had allergy shots and has done the nettie pot irrigation.

She is becoming very discouraged and depressed.

> Thanks

>

Your message about your granddaughter really touched me. My

grandmother had a very classic case of Sampters (although it was

never diagnosed as that). I had my first polyp surgery in the third

grade. I have never had anything but very slight asthma and have

always been told that I was aspirin sensitive, but have never had a

reaction. I had several surgeries, tons of shots, nose sprays,

irrigations, medicines, and countless antibiotics. Most recently

(just 3 weeks ago) I underwent aspirin desensitization, which is

going very well. I am already feeling my sinuses open up.

Because I had such an early onset of polyps and because I never

satisfactorally presented aspirin allergy or asthma, my doctor was

unclear if I was truly a Sampters patient. He spoke with the docs at

the Scripps institute and they confirmed that I was indeed a Sampters

patient.

My suggestion is look into aspirin desensitization. It is the least

invasive, best hope for a " cure " for her.

And please tell her to not give up. I know first hand that this

illness is very hard on children. I remember after recovering from

my first surgery at the age of 8 and realizing that headaches were

not a normal part of a day. I had no idea that people were walking

around feeling so good. It is a very isolating feeling. Please tell

her that she is not alone!

Even though this illness is very uncomfortable and a daily fight,

life can be lived to the fully despite it!!! I am now 37, with a

college degree, a happy marriage and two great sons. The treatments

for this illness are better and more effective than ever and will

only be getting better. There is a lot of hope.

Also, I recommend hanging around this group. It was because of this

group and some very wonderful people on it that I pursued the

desens. There is a ton of good information and support to be had

from this fine group.

>

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I had my first aspirin exacerbation when I was just a few months over

the age of 21. I had extremely uncontrollable allergies growing up

with the typical puffy eyes, sneezing, itching, and rash. They called

it " hay fever " and I still have these issues to this day at the age of

31. I think the most common onset of Samster's is mid to late 30's --

at least that's what I've read.

The only " treatment " that I've seen in this forum that make the polyps

manageable are 1.)aspirin desensitization and 2.)Xolair.

Unfortunately I cannot speak to either as I am in preparation for the

desensitization and didn't pass the preliminary Xolair clinical trial.

I wish you and your granddaughter the best of luck!

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