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I now know why I asked if you were deaf....

I looked at your e-mail add and mistook deif for deaf

and wondered if you could not hear,My grandfather and

grandmother were deaf and I had to learn signing!!!!

so my intentions were not bad...just misunderstood!!

Love Ya

Marty

--- Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

> I am a NP so, I know all about SLE

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Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mental

prejudices and stereotypes of others.

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me or deceive me.

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thanks for the prayers BTW deif is greek for dolphin

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From: Marty Cline

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:04 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Nancie I found this on the internet.

I now know why I asked if you were deaf....I looked at your e-mail add and mistook deif for deafand wondered if you could not hear,My grandfather andgrandmother were deaf and I had to learn signing!!!!so my intentions were not bad...just misunderstood!!Love YaMarty--- Nancie Barnett <deifspiritmsn> wrote:> I am a NP so, I know all about SLE> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joyce Hudson<mailto:bjoyfuliglou> > To:> <mailto: >> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:11 AM> Subject: [ ] Nancie I found this on> the internet.> > > > Nancie, I know it's very painful, chronic, affects> the entire body, and can be debilitating. I have an> Aunt that has it. Her son is a Registered Nurse and> he looks after her. 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Thank you Nancie! I am at a lost for words. You must be a very strong individual, to go through that all of these Years! Since, I am somewhat familiar with how the body reacts to chemo and decadron, I know you must have had a lot of side effects! I know how weak it can make you, how it lowers your immune system, the nausea, loss of appetite, and a lot more! And from what I have read, Lupus plays hell on emotions. I pray they find a cure! I will continue to up load any info I find on Lupus to the files. Maybe something new will come up. You are definitely in my Prayers. Keep ups being a strong person, you set an example for us All. Blessings and Lots of Love, Joy

----- Original Message -----

From: Nancie Barnett

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:41 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Nancie I found this on the internet.

well, my treatment history is very long and involved.

I was on chemo for 15 years[ 14 years without a break- every 3-4 weeks} I took high dose decadron at 150 mg every 4 weeks {a steroid} for 10 years straight. I also took cytoxin {dose varied} for 15 years. I have tried imuran, cellcept, methotrexate, rituxan all with so-so success.

I have tried eastern medicine on it's own, but it did not work for me as a solo treatment. it only works in conjunction with my western medicine.

right now I am on a drug called Myfortec, which is next generation Cellcept; lipitor; celebrex; atenolol [ to prevent lupus headaches]; nexium; armour thyroid; and hydochlorothiazide.

I have massages every week; I exercise regularly and I meditate.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce Hudson

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:34 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Nancie I found this on the internet.

Would you mind telling us what you are doing to help it? From my reading today, there's no cure with Traditional Medicine. Did see some hope with Alternative, but I promise not to deluge you with any more articles. :-) Love and Blessings, Joy

----- Original Message -----

From: Nancie Barnett

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:55 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Nancie I found this on the internet.

I am a NP so, I know all about SLE

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce Hudson

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:11 AM

Subject: [ ] Nancie I found this on the internet.

Nancie, I know it's very painful, chronic, affects the entire body, and can be debilitating. I have an Aunt that has it. Her son is a Registered Nurse and he looks after her. Hope I can find some more material that will help you.

I, like Marty, would love to hear, what you do to help yourself.

Blessings and Love, Joy

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This Lupus Prevention and/or Curing Protocol is for people who are ready to take the full responsibility for their own health."The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it."Chinese Proverb.The protocol incorporates lifestyle change, and implements healthy diet, body cleansing, exercises and different traditional and natural therapies. Protocol contains links to other pages that give detail explanation for each part of this program. Please, follow the links, to fully understand all the words. Remember: There is always something that can be done! The first thing to do is to change your mood. If you are depressed, if you are unhappy, you can not be healthy. Advice: start with the Laughing cure!

Laughing provides us with the natural inner massage, and through change of mood it can account for up to 30% of cure!

The Lupus Cause

To understand The Lupus Prevention and Curing Protocol, you should first get familiar with The Lupus Cause

Now, I assume that you know something about what is causing Lupus, so we can continue with the Lupus program.

Lupus Diet

Let's start with most simple part of this program: Lupus diet. When it comes to diet, it is very important to avoid eating Toxins and Foods that Kill. Please follow those links and learn what are The Toxins I am talking about and what are those " Foods that Kill". Now, important part of your diet should also be Water Cure. Please, become familiar with Water Cure. Your Diet should contain: Foods That Heal, Vegetable juices, Fats that Heal, Unrefined Sea Salt. Also, try to understand food tolerance. You can not find the right Lupus diet, unless you fully understand and learn about food tolerance.

Take some time to implement and learn all what you have read here, and then continue reading further.

Body Cleansing (Lupus)

Now, let's start with body cleansing. Body cleansing is extremely important part of every prevention and curing program. You are guessing: "Dietary changes you made are also a form of cleansing." But, most people need more then this, especially when it comes to liver health. Body Cleansing is even important for children. Our internal organs can hold a lot toxins, and sometimes, it is impossible to get those toxins out, without doing cleansing. Our liver can contain hundreds of intrahepatic stones. Those stones will block bile flow, and affect the bases of your health, your digestion. Another problem are parasites. You must learn as much as possible about parasites. And, don't forget also dental toxins.

Let start with cleansing program. You are suppose to do cleansing in this order:

Bowel cleanse with parasite cleanse Dental cleanup (if you can afford it) Kidney Cleanse and Liver cleanse.

Body Cleansing for Adults:

Bowel cleanse and Parasite cleanse ! Dental cleanup - dental work may be one cofactor of your disease: amalgam, root canal, nickel crowns, cavitations (pocket inside jaw bone left after extraction of the wisdom and molar teeth ) Kidney cleanse Liver cleanse and Gallbladder cleanse -liver flush!

Make sure you visit those pages and get more info. Dental cleanup can take many years. If you have a lot of dental metal, do not rush to replace it all at once.Bowel cleanse should be done at least once a year.Liver cleanse is a procedure that, for best results, should be repeated at least 6 - 10 times, every 2 or 3 weeks.Kidney cleanse is simple and cheap, many herbs can be used to cleanse kidneys. If you have no kidney stones, even Water Cure could be enough!

Body Cleansing for kids:

Parasites cleanse

Dental cleanup . Kids older then 8 may need dental cleanup (amalgam) and liver cleanse:

Liver Cleanse - flush

Physical Activity (Lupus)

Physical Activity helps cleansing, it brings balance and relieves stress.Psycho-physical activities will help you balance your body and will help you relief accumulated stress. You will have to find a form of exercise that suit you. I will just give you a few examples:

Mini Trampoline jumping - rebounding!MeditationWalk or jog in the nature : Forest, Mountain , river / sea / lake side, beach ... fishing, photo-safari, rowing, riding, golf, ...

Tai Chi, Chi Gong, Meditation ..Yoga - Hatha, Meditation, Chinese Yoga ... Martial Arts: Karate, Judo, Kung Fu, Teakwood, Budokai, Uechi, Aikido .. Dancing, Aerobics, Gymnastics, Stretching ...Swimming in non-chlorinated water ! ( Best in minerals rich water - Ocean ! )Weight lifting, ....

Do not exhaust yourself !

Do not exercise with full stomach ! (You may take a walk!)

Do not hurt yourself !

Sweating (Lupus)

Sweating is powerful way to cleanse your body from accumulated toxins.examples:- exercise with a lot of clothes- Sauna- drink warm tea in a hot room ...- eat CAYENNE pepper! ...

It is known that some modern industrial toxins and pesticides can leave your body only through sweat glands!

Psychotherapy and Spiritual Therapy

Human body is not just this what we can se. There is more to it. To treat other level of us, to treat soul and to treat mind and unconscious parts of us, I suggest you Hellinger's therapy.

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may I put you in my prayers?

Marty

--- Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

> well, my treatment history is very long and

> involved.

> I was on chemo for 15 years[ 14 years without a

> break- every 3-4 weeks} I took high dose decadron at

> 150 mg every 4 weeks {a steroid} for 10 years

> straight. I also took cytoxin {dose varied} for 15

> years. I have tried imuran, cellcept, methotrexate,

> rituxan all with so-so success.

> I have tried eastern medicine on it's own, but it

> did not work for me as a solo treatment. it only

> works in conjunction with my western medicine.

> right now I am on a drug called Myfortec, which is

> next generation Cellcept; lipitor; celebrex;

> atenolol [ to prevent lupus headaches]; nexium;

> armour thyroid; and hydochlorothiazide.

> I have massages every week; I exercise regularly and

> I meditate.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Joyce Hudson<mailto:bjoyful@...>

> To:

>

<mailto: >

>

> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:34 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Nancie I found

> this on the internet.

>

>

>

> Would you mind telling us what you are doing to

> help it? From my reading today, there's no cure

> with Traditional Medicine. Did see some hope with

> Alternative, but I promise not to deluge you with

> any more articles. :-) Love and Blessings, Joy

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Nancie Barnett<mailto:deifspirit@...>

> To:

>

<mailto: >

>

> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:55 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Nancie I found

> this on the internet.

>

>

> I am a NP so, I know all about SLE

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Joyce Hudson<mailto:bjoyful@...>

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>

> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:11 AM

> Subject: [ ] Nancie I found

> this on the internet.

>

>

>

> Nancie, I know it's very painful, chronic,

> affects the entire body, and can be debilitating. I

> have an Aunt that has it. Her son is a Registered

> Nurse and he looks after her. Hope I can find some

> more material that will help you.

>

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>

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Dear Nancie, I have you on the COSE Prayer-Reiki List for this coming week. I'm co-ordinator and the Group is spread all over the world. Love, Ellie

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well, my treatment history is very long and involved.

I was on chemo for 15 years[ 14 years without a break- every 3-4 weeks} I took high dose decadron at 150 mg every 4 weeks {a steroid} for 10 years straight. I also took cytoxin {dose varied} for 15 years. I have tried imuran, cellcept, methotrexate, rituxan all with so-so success.

I have tried eastern medicine on it's own, but it did not work for me as a solo treatment. it only works in conjunction with my western medicine.

right now I am on a drug called Myfortec, which is next generation Cellcept; lipitor; celebrex; atenolol [ to prevent lupus headaches]; nexium; armour thyroid; and hydochlorothiazide.

I have massages every week; I exercise regularly and I meditate.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce Hudson

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:34 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Nancie I found this on the internet.

Would you mind telling us what you are doing to help it? From my reading today, there's no cure with Traditional Medicine. Did see some hope with Alternative, but I promise not to deluge you with any more articles. :-) Love and Blessings, Joy

----- Original Message -----

From: Nancie Barnett

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:55 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Nancie I found this on the internet.

I am a NP so, I know all about SLE

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce Hudson

Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:11 AM

Subject: [ ] Nancie I found this on the internet.

Nancie, I know it's very painful, chronic, affects the entire body, and can be debilitating. I have an Aunt that has it. Her son is a Registered Nurse and he looks after her. Hope I can find some more material that will help you.

I, like Marty, would love to hear, what you do to help yourself.

Blessings and Love, Joy

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This Lupus Prevention and/or Curing Protocol is for people who are ready to take the full responsibility for their own health."The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it."Chinese Proverb.The protocol incorporates lifestyle change, and implements healthy diet, body cleansing, exercises and different traditional and natural therapies. Protocol contains links to other pages that give detail explanation for each part of this program. Please, follow the links, to fully understand all the words. Remember: There is always something that can be done! The first thing to do is to change your mood. If you are depressed, if you are unhappy, you can not be healthy. Advice: start with the Laughing cure!

Laughing provides us with the natural inner massage, and through change of mood it can account for up to 30% of cure!

The Lupus Cause

To understand The Lupus Prevention and Curing Protocol, you should first get familiar with The Lupus Cause

Now, I assume that you know something about what is causing Lupus, so we can continue with the Lupus program.

Lupus Diet

Let's start with most simple part of this program: Lupus diet. When it comes to diet, it is very important to avoid eating Toxins and Foods that Kill. Please follow those links and learn what are The Toxins I am talking about and what are those " Foods that Kill". Now, important part of your diet should also be Water Cure. Please, become familiar with Water Cure. Your Diet should contain: Foods That Heal, Vegetable juices, Fats that Heal, Unrefined Sea Salt. Also, try to understand food tolerance. You can not find the right Lupus diet, unless you fully understand and learn about food tolerance.

Take some time to implement and learn all what you have read here, and then continue reading further.

Body Cleansing (Lupus)

Now, let's start with body cleansing. Body cleansing is extremely important part of every prevention and curing program. You are guessing: "Dietary changes you made are also a form of cleansing." But, most people need more then this, especially when it comes to liver health. Body Cleansing is even important for children. Our internal organs can hold a lot toxins, and sometimes, it is impossible to get those toxins out, without doing cleansing. Our liver can contain hundreds of intrahepatic stones. Those stones will block bile flow, and affect the bases of your health, your digestion. Another problem are parasites. You must learn as much as possible about parasites. And, don't forget also dental toxins.

Let start with cleansing program. You are suppose to do cleansing in this order:

Bowel cleanse with parasite cleanse Dental cleanup (if you can afford it) Kidney Cleanse and Liver cleanse.

Body Cleansing for Adults:

Bowel cleanse and Parasite cleanse ! Dental cleanup - dental work may be one cofactor of your disease: amalgam, root canal, nickel crowns, cavitations (pocket inside jaw bone left after extraction of the wisdom and molar teeth ) Kidney cleanse Liver cleanse and Gallbladder cleanse -liver flush!

Make sure you visit those pages and get more info. Dental cleanup can take many years. If you have a lot of dental metal, do not rush to replace it all at once.Bowel cleanse should be done at least once a year.Liver cleanse is a procedure that, for best results, should be repeated at least 6 - 10 times, every 2 or 3 weeks.Kidney cleanse is simple and cheap, many herbs can be used to cleanse kidneys. If you have no kidney stones, even Water Cure could be enough!

Body Cleansing for kids:

Parasites cleanse

Dental cleanup . Kids older then 8 may need dental cleanup (amalgam) and liver cleanse:

Liver Cleanse - flush

Physical Activity (Lupus)

Physical Activity helps cleansing, it brings balance and relieves stress.Psycho-physical activities will help you balance your body and will help you relief accumulated stress. You will have to find a form of exercise that suit you. I will just give you a few examples:

Mini Trampoline jumping - rebounding!MeditationWalk or jog in the nature : Forest, Mountain , river / sea / lake side, beach ... fishing, photo-safari, rowing, riding, golf, ...

Tai Chi, Chi Gong, Meditation ..Yoga - Hatha, Meditation, Chinese Yoga ... Martial Arts: Karate, Judo, Kung Fu, Teakwood, Budokai, Uechi, Aikido .. Dancing, Aerobics, Gymnastics, Stretching ...Swimming in non-chlorinated water ! ( Best in minerals rich water - Ocean ! )Weight lifting, ....

Do not exhaust yourself !

Do not exercise with full stomach ! (You may take a walk!)

Do not hurt yourself !

Sweating (Lupus)

Sweating is powerful way to cleanse your body from accumulated toxins.examples:- exercise with a lot of clothes- Sauna- drink warm tea in a hot room ...- eat CAYENNE pepper! ...

It is known that some modern industrial toxins and pesticides can leave your body only through sweat glands!

Psychotherapy and Spiritual Therapy

Human body is not just this what we can se. There is more to it. To treat other level of us, to treat soul and to treat mind and unconscious parts of us, I suggest you Hellinger's therapy.

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that is so sweet! thank you very much.

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