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I agree with being knowlegeable about herbs before you take them. The strength

of them is just as important as the combination. I took Lecithin (1 tablespoon

in a glass of orange juice) and had such a bad reaction I thought I would pass

out. Dizziness and flushing and light head. I have never taken another

herbal remedy and will go to a natureopath if I choose to take any or a good

herbalist.

Bev

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. " I heard Schulzel, a master herbalist, say there are no

side effects from God's herbs. If you take too much you just throw up. "

I think there are some dangers involved in suggesting this. Not all herbs

go well together. I think everyone should pay heed to which herbs they are

taking and in what combinations. I don't know Mr. Schulzel and I personally

wouldn't give .02 for that opinion. (and that's my .02 worth! :))

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> . " I heard Schulzel, a master herbalist, say there are no

> side effects from God's herbs. If you take too much you just throw up. "

>

>

> I think there are some dangers involved in suggesting this. Not all herbs go

well together. I think everyone should

> pay heed to which herbs they are taking and in what combinations. I don't

know Mr. Schulzel and I personally

> wouldn't give .02 for that opinion. (and that's my .02 worth! :))

Mark,

You're quite right. Taken improperly (or properly - depending on your

intent) the plant kingdom is literaly rife with deadly poisons. To infer

that because something is herbal there is no *possibility* of trouble is

less than candid. It would be more accurate to include the premise that

there is no long-term negative effect *IF TAKEN CORRECTLY*.

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Hi all

did you also realize that if they regulate these supplements that we wil

be at the mercy again of trying to get doctors to write scripts for

them!!!

cooky

Geoff Crenshaw wrote:

>

> From: Geoff Crenshaw <geoff@...>

>

> Hello Everyone! Geoff Crenshaw here.

>

> Most of us are aware, and concerned about, the FDA's intrusion into OTC

> herbals. We've been all over the map about increasing prices, decreasing

> availability, etc. And usually the companies who make these little

> goodies have been on that same side.

>

> Seems that may be changing.

>

> MSNBC in an article related to the one posted earlier to the group says,

> " A PRESCRIPTION FOR HERBS?

> The companies also plan to seek Food and Drug

> Administration approval to sell the most effective herbs as

> prescription drugs, so doctors wary of the largely

> unregulated supplements could choose, for a little higher

> price, a fully tested medicine version. "

>

> For the full text go to: http://www.msnbc.com/news/204488.asp#BODY

>

> The good news is that of this sort of thing *does* fly, these herbals

> will then be covered by insurance (translated I pay for what you take

> and the fellow who manages the whole things makes money).

>

> The bad news is that the price will go up, those of us who use the meds

> OTC will no longer be able to get them and those of us without insurance

> will once again get treated to the pointy end of a mechanical obect used

> for fastening.

>

> And life goes on...

> --

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>

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herbs

Have any of you had any experience in taking herbal products with your meds for

RA? I am wanting to take black cohosh for hot flashes. Any suggestions. My

rheumy said he does not know anything about this product.

Thanks

Renate

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herbs

Have any of you had any experience in taking herbal products with your meds for

RA? I am wanting to take black cohosh for hot flashes. Any suggestions. My

rheumy said he does not know anything about this product.

Thanks

Renate

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Renate,

I use Evening Primrose oil to help with inflammation from my RA so far it

works. I have not had to take any steriods now for months. I take 1800mg a day

in two to three divided doses. This is also suppose to help with PMS...but so

far no relief from that.

I know on the Dr, Phil show he and his wife did a major series on menopause

and women's hormonal problems. The black cohash came highly recommended. I

know of many others that use it and swear by it. I would get a good herbal and

nutritional guide as some herbals to do conflict with many prescription meds.

You could also try asking your pharmacist to see if he can go through all

your meds and suppliments and make sure there are not conflicts.

Its not surprising that your Rheummy is not familair. You primary care doc,

GYN or menopause specialist would be very knowledgeable and probably provide

you with help in getting relief.

Good luck

Toni

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:38:27 -0600

From: " renate dorsey " <renate220@...>

Subject: Fw: herbs

herbs

Have any of you had any experience in taking herbal products with your meds

for RA? I am wanting to take black cohosh for hot flashes. Any suggestions. My

rheumy said he does not know anything about this product.

Thanks

Renate

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--- In RA-wrote:

>

>

> Have any of you had any experience in taking herbal products with

your meds for RA? I am wanting to take black cohosh for hot flashes.

Any suggestions. My rheumy said he does not know anything about this

product.

> Thanks

> Renate

>

] Hi! I'd like to share with you my experience with hot flashes. My

daughter bought me a package with 2 bottles in it from Traders Joes

and one bottle was what you mention,black cohosh and the other

evening primrose. I took the evening primrose and within a week the

hot flashes were gone. I did not take the black cohosh as to me the

less I take in the better. I do not like taking pills bit oh well...

I also hate giving myself the enbrel injections. I hope you have good

success in this area as I have as that is so YULK! So is all else

that goes with r/a and fibro and sjogrens syndrome. Truly a challenge

and not a pleasant one. God bless you and evryone else in this group.

Sincerly and with loving thoughts,always,Marie-PA

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echinacea I used to take to support my immune system and melentonin

for help sleeping. On the bottle of these 2 herbs says that you are

not to take IF you have an auto immune diease.

Same with ginseng. My rheumatologist told me. I had been drinking a

cup of " tension tamer " herb tea every evening and had to give it up

because ginseng is an immune system stimulant.

S

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There are Herbs to cure all illness but the FDA and Doctors do not want

you to know that. There are herbs to help you sleep and to lower blood

pressure. I start my day off with my herbs and I know that they are

great for me and some Vitamins your body needs. I have been a

Herbalogist for almost 12 years and never regret learning the true

healing properites of herbs.

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