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I have seen two orthos and two pain management.

Had three mris, two sets of xrays, ct scan, 2 bone scans, 2 emgs, ssep, and

I am getting a new set of xrays for my hip area cause these were all just

spine.

Had spinal blocks on L5, S1- great results

SI joint – no effect and second had the flare

Piriformis injection – so so results

Epidural – no help

Pt – three times, twice it felt nice to get the massages but cant say any of

the pt actually helped.

…can you not feel pain because of the injury to your neck? That

certainly sounds serious! Or you just didn’t have those symptoms?

LOL – yes getting out of bed is actually one of the most painful things for

me!! LOL- who would have thought. I have to prop myself up on my elbows to

roll little bits at a time til I am on side and can bring legs over and then

roll off bed. I even have to slide to side and then put one leg down to get

out of the car. Very practiced slow movements.

How did they know your neck injury was from your car accident?

I am starting another pain journal – I did one for a long time and then

stopped. My dr asked to have it but it hasn’t seemed to make any difference

so far but I do think I should start another one.

I DO know I feel more pain two days after any exercise. Leg exercises

always provoked more pain before my flair. Now of course any exercise

causes more pain.

JP

RE: depression....

Jen

What kind of treatment have you had? I went to my doctor and all she did was

ask me where I got the injury to my arm at and I told her I didn't know. She

asked me how in the world can you not know. I told her I could not feel pain

in my hands and arms. That is when they found the neck injury. Then went to

PT and it was making matters worst, so then they found the Lumbar injury.

The center was cause when I went back to work. Now can't work.

Have you had MRIs done? X-Rays? Ther are all kinds of tests out there. Go to

a Orthopedic.

Stop and think really hard about what is going on in your body. Do you have

numbness? Do you not feel pain in areas of your body? What are you doing at

the time the pain gets worst? Find out what you can do without adding to

your pain and what does add to your pain. Do you have headaches? Do your

legs hurt, and so forth. Sit down and start writing it all down. Every

little thing means something that can help the doctor help you. You also

have to be very careful about doing thing, even just getting out of bed can

cause you harm.

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You know I always had a cat...then I got a husband who is allergic to cats -

deathly allergic....so no cat. But I remember telling ALL my thoughts to my

cat and he seemed to sense when I needed his comfort. Too bad a fish

doesn’t sit in your lap and purr!

JP

Sigh - they do not say that much but they sure love me regardless.

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Yes for an entire month after the accident I couldn't even move my left arm, but

doctor just blew it off. Had terrible headaches off and on. They found four disc

in my neck crushing my spinal cord, when my doctor (a new one) ask about the

injury on my arm. I had as much as my doctor said he could repair, later when I

haven't some medical insurance or something I want to have more looked into.

Still having a lot of pain at the base of my skull. They also found the injury

in the lumbar.

After I had surgery, I had to go back to work after 7 weeks or lose my job,

which was too soon. Second I injuried myself again in my center back after I

went back to work. My doctor had a fit. She said NO MORE WORK, you are just

doing more damage.

I am finally getting a settlement in about a month, it isn't much but more

then I have at this time.

Can you email me private and send me your number, I would love to talk to you.

jasonsstorm@.... Tonight if possible or tomorrow.

Take care and try not to get mad, I know it is hard. I have a temper that you

wouldn't believe.

jen <jennybonner13@...> wrote:

I have seen two orthos and two pain management.

Had three mris, two sets of xrays, ct scan, 2 bone scans, 2 emgs, ssep, and

I am getting a new set of xrays for my hip area cause these were all just

spine.

Had spinal blocks on L5, S1- great results

SI joint – no effect and second had the flare

Piriformis injection – so so results

Epidural – no help

Pt – three times, twice it felt nice to get the massages but cant say any of

the pt actually helped.

…can you not feel pain because of the injury to your neck? That

certainly sounds serious! Or you just didn’t have those symptoms?

LOL – yes getting out of bed is actually one of the most painful things for

me!! LOL- who would have thought. I have to prop myself up on my elbows to

roll little bits at a time til I am on side and can bring legs over and then

roll off bed. I even have to slide to side and then put one leg down to get

out of the car. Very practiced slow movements.

How did they know your neck injury was from your car accident?

I am starting another pain journal – I did one for a long time and then

stopped. My dr asked to have it but it hasn’t seemed to make any difference

so far but I do think I should start another one.

I DO know I feel more pain two days after any exercise. Leg exercises

always provoked more pain before my flair. Now of course any exercise

causes more pain.

JP

RE: depression....

Jen

What kind of treatment have you had? I went to my doctor and all she did was

ask me where I got the injury to my arm at and I told her I didn't know. She

asked me how in the world can you not know. I told her I could not feel pain

in my hands and arms. That is when they found the neck injury. Then went to

PT and it was making matters worst, so then they found the Lumbar injury.

The center was cause when I went back to work. Now can't work.

Have you had MRIs done? X-Rays? Ther are all kinds of tests out there. Go to

a Orthopedic.

Stop and think really hard about what is going on in your body. Do you have

numbness? Do you not feel pain in areas of your body? What are you doing at

the time the pain gets worst? Find out what you can do without adding to

your pain and what does add to your pain. Do you have headaches? Do your

legs hurt, and so forth. Sit down and start writing it all down. Every

little thing means something that can help the doctor help you. You also

have to be very careful about doing thing, even just getting out of bed can

cause you harm.

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Wow! I am glad you are getting something from the accident. I had some

sciatica after one accident about 7 yrs ago (a 93 yr old man hit from behind

and never even attempted to stop – I was sitting at a stop light) but I

didn’t sign right on with a dr and get treated and they told me you will get

nothing and then I called a friend that is a lawyer and said – what if this

is something serious and he said because I didn’t get immediate and constant

treatment I couldn’t do anything about it. So that may be when it started.

But I actually rather go thru my insurance company cause when I did want to

go see someone – they had to make the appt and it was so much jumping thru

hoops I finally gave up – it wasn’t worth it.

I am headed to bed. And tomorrow going to see the new dr. Hopefully that

will help. I will email you off group.

Jen

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Jen

What kind of treatment have you had? I went to my doctor and all she did was

ask me where I got the injury to my arm at and I told her I didn't know. She

asked me how in the world can you not know. I told her I could not feel pain

in my hands and arms. That is when they found the neck injury. Then went to

PT and it was making matters worst, so then they found the Lumbar injury.

The center was cause when I went back to work. Now can't work.

Have you had MRIs done? X-Rays? Ther are all kinds of tests out there. Go to

a Orthopedic.

Stop and think really hard about what is going on in your body. Do you have

numbness? Do you not feel pain in areas of your body? What are you doing at

the time the pain gets worst? Find out what you can do without adding to

your pain and what does add to your pain. Do you have headaches? Do your

legs hurt, and so forth. Sit down and start writing it all down. Every

little thing means something that can help the doctor help you. You also

have to be very careful about doing thing, even just getting out of bed can

cause you harm.

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Jen

Thanks, I am for bed as well, in terrible pain tonight that I am shaking so

bad afraid to walk.

When you get home, email me and I'll call you. Good luck tomorrow and I hope

you get some answers but sounds to me like the accident did it.

I am getting settlement for work injury. 23 years is too long to go back to

insurance company for accident. Thanks for the support and for caring.

Later

Wow! I am glad you are getting something from the accident. I had some

sciatica after one accident about 7 yrs ago (a 93 yr old man hit from behind

and never even attempted to stop – I was sitting at a stop light) but I

didn’t sign right on with a dr and get treated and they told me you will get

nothing and then I called a friend that is a lawyer and said – what if this

is something serious and he said because I didn’t get immediate and constant

treatment I couldn’t do anything about it. So that may be when it started.

But I actually rather go thru my insurance company cause when I did want to

go see someone – they had to make the appt and it was so much jumping thru

hoops I finally gave up – it wasn’t worth it.

I am headed to bed. And tomorrow going to see the new dr. Hopefully that

will help. I will email you off group.

Jen

RE: depression..-..

Jen

What kind of treatment have you had? I went to my doctor and all she did was

ask me where I got the injury to my arm at and I told her I didn't know. She

asked me how in the world can you not know. I told her I could not feel pain

in my hands and arms. That is when they found the neck injury. Then went to

PT and it was making matters worst, so then they found the Lumbar injury.

The center was cause when I went back to work. Now can't work.

Have you had MRIs done? X-Rays? Ther are all kinds of tests out there. Go to

a Orthopedic.

Stop and think really hard about what is going on in your body. Do you have

numbness? Do you not feel pain in areas of your body? What are you doing at

the time the pain gets worst? Find out what you can do without adding to

your pain and what does add to your pain. Do you have headaches? Do your

legs hurt, and so forth. Sit down and start writing it all down. Every

little thing means something that can help the doctor help you. You also

have to be very careful about doing thing, even just getting out of bed can

cause you harm.

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I think if it is your spouse that is in pain, it doesn't matter if you ever went

through the same pain as them, just seeing them in pain and suffering is enough

for you to know and sympathize.

Barbara

Megwin <Ravenfeather@...> wrote:

I think it is very difficult to sympathize with anyone unless that pain

or that depression has been felt by that person himself.

I do not know of a way to make anyone understand how I feel unless they

once had the same experiences - maybe someone else has some

suggestions. I found that most people (friends, family or coworkers)

would rather not listen to anything that is bad, sad or hurts.

Megwin

On Jan 31, 2007, at 1:12 AM, jen wrote:

>

> I am sure most of you have dealt with this. In fact I can remember

> being on

> the other side and not understanding the pain thing. And thinking if

> they

> just got up off their butt they might feel better.

>

>

>

> Hubby made an off hand comment about having to listen to me about my

> pain

> and if you are going to exercise you are going to feel pain. Well I

> have no

> problem with muscle pain…I worked out body building (even competed)

> and I

> welcome that type of pain but this nerve pain is difficult.

>

>

>

> And I did a pilates class the other night, went to get up and couldn’t

> bear

> weight on my leg. I remember when this happened (had something that

> caused

> a pain flare that sent me to the hospital in Sept – I still have no

> idea

> what caused that and before that I could usually function with

> blocks/nsaids/stretching/lidoderm patch/tens unit. But this is bad

> and it

> doesn’t seem to be resolving. And I have no idea why or what caused

> it.

> And I am getting very depressed.

>

>

>

> My husband and I have always been the most active people I know.

> Skiing,

> cycling (100 mile rides), running, walking, windsurfing, swimming, body

> building etc. and I am struggling now to even get out and walk 2miles

> or do

> some light cardio. I know he has no clue what I am feeling because

> before

> all this, I had no clue what people in pain were feeling. And I am

> starting

> to feel like this is not going to get better. And now I feel like I

> can’t

> even talk to the one person that should support me – my husband. It

> seems

> like he is getting tired of hearing it.

>

>

>

> I called today to make another appointment at a back clinic that my

> insurance case manager actually recommended. I am afraid my pain

> management

> doc might get miffed – he is more intent on treating it than figuring

> out

> what is causing it and while I need the pain management, I still need

> to

> have a diagnosis.

>

>

>

> I never thought I would take narcotics and I have crossed over to that

> sident? I thought she was insane….now I am starting to think she may

> be

> right.

>

>

>

> Any words of wisdom? What do you guys do when the ones close to you

> are

> tired of hearing it? When you feel as though you can’t do anything you

> would normally do as a family? We are supposed to go skiing with my

> parents

> (yes they ski – all over Europe and out west) for a week in March. I

> don’t

> even want to go now. Have any of you gone on to several docs before

> getting

> a doc that finds your cause and treats your pain?

>

> JP

>

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seriously??

Michele

--- Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:

> Howdy All

>

>

>

> I was feeling a bit depressed the other day, so I

> called the Help Hotline.

> I was put through to a 'call center' in Pakistan.

> I explained that I was feeling suicidal.

> They were very excited at this news and wanted to

> know

> if I could

> drive a truck or fly an airplane....

>

> Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

> I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mental

> prejudices and stereotypes of others.

> I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can

> manipulate

> me or deceive me.

> I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love.

>

> Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

> freedom.

>

> __________________________________________________

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Michele, Marty loves to joke! :-), Blessings, Joy

----- Original Message -----

From: michele horton

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:00 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] depression....

seriously??Michele--- Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:> Howdy All> > > > I was feeling a bit depressed the other day, so I> called the Help Hotline.> I was put through to a 'call center' in Pakistan.> I explained that I was feeling suicidal.> They were very excited at this news and wanted to> know> if I could> drive a truck or fly an airplane....> > Spiritual freedom is my birthright. > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mental> prejudices and stereotypes of others. > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> manipulate> me or deceive me. > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love.> > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> freedom.> > __________________________________________________>

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when I call into a call center for whatever, and I get

a pakistani who goes by the name " mary " I feel like I

am already in a looney bin world!

Seriously,

Michele

--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

> Michele, Marty loves to joke! :-), Blessings, Joy

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: michele horton

>

> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:00 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] depression....

>

>

> seriously??

>

> Michele

> --- Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:

>

> > Howdy All

> >

> >

> >

> > I was feeling a bit depressed the other day, so

> I

> > called the Help Hotline.

> > I was put through to a 'call center' in

> Pakistan.

> > I explained that I was feeling suicidal.

> > They were very excited at this news and wanted

> to

> > know

> > if I could

> > drive a truck or fly an airplane....

> >

> > Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

> > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above

> mental

> > prejudices and stereotypes of others.

> > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can

> > manipulate

> > me or deceive me.

> > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and

> love.

> >

> > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

> > freedom.

> >

> >

> __________________________________________________

> >

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Yeah, I do understand. :-) Blessings, Joy

----- Original Message -----

From: michele horton

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:11 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] depression....

when I call into a call center for whatever, and I geta pakistani who goes by the name "mary" I feel like Iam already in a looney bin world!Seriously,Michele--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:> Michele, Marty loves to joke! :-), Blessings, Joy> ----- Original Message ----- > From: michele horton > > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:00 PM> Subject: Re: [ ] depression....> > > seriously??> > Michele> --- Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:> > > Howdy All> > > > > > > > I was feeling a bit depressed the other day, so> I> > called the Help Hotline.> > I was put through to a 'call center' in> Pakistan.> > I explained that I was feeling suicidal.> > They were very excited at this news and wanted> to> > know> > if I could> > drive a truck or fly an airplane....> > > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright. > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above> mental> > prejudices and stereotypes of others. > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> > manipulate> > me or deceive me. > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and> love.> > > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> > freedom.> > > >> __________________________________________________> >

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If you want to have some fun with them speak German. It's a real hoot !!! DEWEYmichele horton <epifany97523@...> wrote: when I call into a call center for whatever, and I geta pakistani who goes by the name "mary" I feel like Iam already in a looney bin

world!Seriously,Michele--- Joyce Hudson wrote:> Michele, Marty loves to joke! :-), Blessings, Joy> ----- Original Message ----- > From: michele horton > > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:00 PM> Subject: Re: [ ] depression....> > > seriously??> > Michele> --- Marty Cline wrote:> > > Howdy All> > > > > > > > I was feeling a bit depressed the other day, so> I> > called the Help Hotline.> > I was put through to a 'call center' in> Pakistan.> > I explained that I was feeling suicidal.> > They were very excited at this news and wanted> to> > know> > if I could> > drive a truck or fly an airplane....> > > >

Spiritual freedom is my birthright. > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above> mental> > prejudices and stereotypes of others. > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> > manipulate> > me or deceive me. > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and> love.> > > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> > freedom.> > > >> __________________________________________________> >

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