Manuka honey,antibiotic resistance and biofilms

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Society for General Microbiology (2011, April 12). Honey can reverse antibiotic resistance, study suggests. ScienceDaily. Retrieved April 13, 2011, from http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110412201713.htm

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Thanks so much Wayne for all these really interesting postings. My doctor just told me to add manuka honey to my saline rinse as I currently have an infection -- I think I did this some time ago with no luck, but I'll try again. Just wondering if anyone here has had luck treating a sinus infection with manuka honey?On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Wayne wrote:

Society for General Microbiology (2011, April 12). Honey can reverse antibiotic resistance, study suggests. ScienceDaily. Retrieved April 13, 2011, from http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110412201713.htm

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Thanks for your reply Joan.I've never tried manuka honey but I am looking into

natural and dietary approaches and lifestyle changes increasingly to

pharmaceutical approaches to my health problems (dinking more and more teas with

honey or stevia and decreasing coffee consumption).(trying to minimize harmful

side efects).Recently I am changing my G.P.as he just recommends big pharma's

approaches.Sincerely Wayne

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I've actually had good luck with more natural approaches -- not so much changes to my diet, though I do eat in a pretty healthy way and mostly avoid dairy, but both with supplements and acupuncture and chinese medicine. I'm not cured by any means, but my health has definitely improved a lot since I started. The problem, of course, is that insurance doesn't cover more natural remedies. On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Wayne wrote:

Thanks for your reply Joan.I've never tried manuka honey but I am looking into natural and dietary approaches and lifestyle changes increasingly to pharmaceutical approaches to my health problems (dinking more and more teas with honey or stevia and decreasing coffee consumption).(trying to minimize harmful side efects).Recently I am changing my G.P.as he just recommends big pharma's approaches.Sincerely Wayne

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Hi everyone,

I’ve been on the Manuka bandwagon for a while how. I

think it’s great but I’ve never tried it as a nasal rinse? You

doctor suggested it? How much do you use? I take it straight up on a tablespoon.

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My doctor suggested putting a small amount of honey in with the regular saline Nielmed rinse. But from what asfy writes, this possibly isn't a high enough concentration to be effective. On Apr 15, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Ansara, (Norbord) wrote:

Hi everyone, I’ve been on the Manuka bandwagon for a while how. I

think it’s great but I’ve never tried it as a nasal rinse? You

doctor suggested it? How much do you use? I take it straight up on a tablespoon.

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First, if everything is fine, there is obviously no need to add Manuka or

another antiseptic to the rinse.

Second, Manuka honey is good at preventing biofilms, but somewhat less so

against established biofilms. It may however be good against some cases of acute

sinusitis. There are some anecdotal reports on the web of patients who report

success against chronic sinusitis after 2 months of Manuka nasal rinse, but

their accounts show that they did not have any complications, such as polyps,

etc.

Third, even though those who reported irrigation success used regular Manuka

honey, such honey is not sterile and can carry germs such as mold spores. This

is why the honeys used in wound dressing for hospital trials are sterile

(sterilized through classic food irradiation). There are some producers who

actually sell such honeys online. Another product quality issue is the " UMF "

grade, a label Manuka producers uses to grade the antiseptic activity of their

honey. UMF 15+ is thought to be the right minimal concentration to have the

required effect, and higher grades are actually rare.

Fourth, there is the issue of concentration. I initially thought that low

concentrations such as 3% by volume would work, but other articles showed that

far higher ones, such as 12%-25%, or even 40%, might be needed to work in some

cases. Needless to say, the honey has to be dissolved in warm saline and the

resulting solution will be a bit sticky. It also has to be used immediately as

water reduces the honey's antiseptic properties.

I actually tried both rinsing and nebulizing for a week or so with a 10% sterile

solution and found that nebulizing was gentler (rinsing stings a little), but I

do not know if it was less efficient than rinsing. However, I cannot say it

helped much in the sense that I was in the middle of a bout of acute sinusitis

that required a good deal of antibiotics to clear anyway, and I have not

repeated this experiment since.

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