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Welcome, Marie. I think you will find LL to be THE program. I have also

tried every diet, gimmick, new fad in diet/exercise,but LL is the one program

that I have loved from the very first day! I have lost inches, and learned

how to relax! I find that I'm very relaxed after my LL tape. Although I try

to do it in the mornings, I sometimes don't have the time, and will do it

before bed if I can. I think you'll really like it. I can't do most

traditional workouts anymore because of the stress it puts on my legs and

feet, but LL gives you an aerobic workout, tightens, and relaxes you. It's

hard to describe, but I'll never use anything but this. Good luck & keep us

posted.

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Muffin,

Yes, just breathing correctly diaphragmatically does for many people help them to lose unwanted inches and pounds.

Rashelle does answer e-mail. She has been away from the list for about a month now due to family illness. Darlene and I are in contact with her and try to keep the listers informed of how things are going. The listers on this list are very helpful and there are a lot of experienced LifeLifters on this list who are more than willing to help you over the difficulties.

As for working out in addition to LifeLift, that is a person's personal choice. Some people choose to add programs to tone up faster than with LifeLift alone.

When I first came into contact with Rashelle I remember being shocked and thinking I had read a mis-print in her newsletter. I came into contact with her before I started this e-group. The newsletter said that she had increased her workout time to 5 minutes a day to get toned up for a new video coming out. I thought that they must have meant 50 instead of 5. When I contacted Duane he said, no, she increased it to 5 minutes a day.

Some people only need a few minutes a day to maintain their losses once they reach their goal.

~KarmaSave 25% on name brands at my on-line Health Supply Storehttp://loaves-n-fishes.com/store.htmlWe sell overseas and to Canada too.

newbie here

yes this is a newbie & I NEED some encouragement!I am such a Newbie that the videos have not arrived yet in the mail, but Ihave been reading this group. NOW TELL me I did NOT make the wrong decisionin buying this program! I was brought into this, by watching the infomercials on bodyflex andthen looking into more info on the web I found lifelift, read some of theletters from users( I hope they were real people) & decided to try Lifelift. I am a MAJOR skeptic , having tried several diet, exercise/gizmos in thepast & not much happened.SO<<< please tell me this thing works! I cannot believe that JUST breathingwill make you lose weight & inches! I have also read on here some who arediscouraged that it is not working for them & the Rashelle has not repliedto their emails. (does she?) so how many of you are getting good results from this program? what tipscan you give? also its selling point is that you need not do exercising toget the results,, so why do I see many of you DOING exercising??Marie<<* IF a cow could laugh,,,,,,,,,,,,,would milk squirt out of itsNose????*>>>http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1227417 *** This free e-mail service pays money for messages that are read! This list sponsored by:http://www.lifelift.comhttp://www.angelmagic.comhttp://loaves-n-fishes.comhttp://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1227417 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/

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Hi Marie and Karma,

I am finding what works well for me is 54LL breaths a day. Anything

else is only icing on the cake! If you get my meaning.

Tig ;)

> Muffin,

> Yes, just breathing correctly diaphragmatically does for many

people

help them to lose unwanted inches and pounds.

>

> Rashelle does answer e-mail. She has been away from the list for

about a month now due to family illness. Darlene and I are in

contact

with her and try to keep the listers informed of how things are

going.

The listers on this list are very helpful and there are a lot of

experienced LifeLifters on this list who are more than willing to

help

you over the difficulties.

>

> As for working out in addition to LifeLift, that is a person's

personal choice. Some people choose to add programs to tone up

faster

than with LifeLift alone.

>

> When I first came into contact with Rashelle I remember being

shocked and thinking I had read a mis-print in her newsletter. I

came

into contact with her before I started this e-group. The newsletter

said that she had increased her workout time to 5 minutes a day to

get

toned up for a new video coming out. I thought that they must have

meant 50 instead of 5. When I contacted Duane he said, no, she

increased it to 5 minutes a day.

>

> Some people only need a few minutes a day to maintain their losses

once they reach their goal.

> ~Karma

> Save 25% on name brands at my on-line Health Supply Store

> http://loaves-n-fishes.com/store.html

> We sell overseas and to Canada too.

> newbie here

>

>

>

>

> My Groups | LifeLift Main Page | Start a new group!

>

>

> yes this is a newbie & I NEED some encouragement!

> I am such a Newbie that the videos have not arrived yet in the

mail, but I

> have been reading this group. NOW TELL me I did NOT make the

wrong

decision

> in buying this program!

> I was brought into this, by watching the infomercials on

bodyflex and

> then looking into more info on the web I found lifelift, read

some

of the

> letters from users( I hope they were real people) & decided to

try

Life

> lift.

> I am a MAJOR skeptic , having tried several diet,

exercise/gizmos in the

> past & not much happened.

> SO<<< please tell me this thing works! I cannot believe that JUST

breathing

> will make you lose weight & inches! I have also read on here some

who are

> discouraged that it is not working for them & the Rashelle has

not

replied

> to their emails. (does she?)

> so how many of you are getting good results from this

program?

what tips

> can you give? also its selling point is that you need not do

exercising to

> get the results,, so why do I see many of you DOING exercising??

>

> Marie

> <<* IF a cow could laugh,,,,,,,,,,,,,would milk squirt out of its

> Nose????*>>>

>

>

>

> http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1227417 *** This free e-mail

service pays money for messages that are read!

>

> This list sponsored by:

> http://www.lifelift.com

> http://www.angelmagic.com

> http://loaves-n-fishes.com

> http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1227417

> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/

>

>

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Hi, I keep hearing about the *stress* relief of this program.

I only hope thats so, it could add a significant benefit to me, as I have

had sooo much emotional upheaval in my life over several family deaths in

the last 2 years, the most recent , my mother 3 months ago.

anything to get me back *alive* would be wonderful. being so *stressed* has

NOT helped my weight & energy factor which is about ZIP!

talk about shallow breathers,, hmm mm I think I am the poster child!

Marie

<<* IF a cow could laugh,,,,,,,,,,,,,would milk squirt out of its

Nose????*>>>

Re: newbie here

>

>Welcome, Marie. I think you will find LL to be THE program. I have also

>tried every diet, gimmick, new fad in diet/exercise,but LL is the one

program

>that I have loved from the very first day! I have lost inches, and learned

>how to relax! I find that I'm very relaxed after my LL tape. Although I try

>to do it in the mornings, I sometimes don't have the time, and will do it

>before bed if I can. I think you'll really like it. I can't do most

>traditional workouts anymore because of the stress it puts on my legs and

>feet, but LL gives you an aerobic workout, tightens, and relaxes you. It's

>hard to describe, but I'll never use anything but this. Good luck & keep us

>posted.

>

>

>http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1227417 *** This free e-mail service pays

money for messages that are read!

>

>This list sponsored by:

>http://www.lifelift.com

>http://www.angelmagic.com

>http://loaves-n-fishes.com

>http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1227417

>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/

>

>

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Hi Muffin,

It really is hard NOT to be a skeptic when you hear about these

breathing programs. I was too at first, but now I am completely 100%

sold on this!!! After my second baby (born in Nov), I had a very

difficult time losing weight. For 3 months I could not get the scale

to budge no matter what I did. I started with BodyFlex in May, and

in 3 months, I lost 17 " . In August I made the switch to LifeLift and

in one month lost another 7 " . My results are better, but what really

made the difference for me is that I really enjoy it and this is

something I CAN do for life!

It's still hard for me to " accept " that breathing is the key too,

because I too have spent 14 years of my life dieting (and I'm only

26). This is by far the best thing I've ever done for myself, and

besides the inchloss, there are so many other benefits to rave

about!

Give it your best shot, and please keep us posted. If you need help

with anything, just ask!

Glad to have you with us,

ë Tara

> yes this is a newbie & I NEED some encouragement!

> I am such a Newbie that the videos have not arrived yet in the

mail, but I

> have been reading this group. NOW TELL me I did NOT make the wrong

decision

> in buying this program!

> I was brought into this, by watching the infomercials on

bodyflex and

> then looking into more info on the web I found lifelift, read some

of the

> letters from users( I hope they were real people) & decided to try

Life

> lift.

> I am a MAJOR skeptic , having tried several diet,

exercise/gizmos in the

> past & not much happened.

> SO<<< please tell me this thing works! I cannot believe that JUST

breathing

> will make you lose weight & inches! I have also read on here some

who are

> discouraged that it is not working for them & the Rashelle has not

replied

> to their emails. (does she?)

> so how many of you are getting good results from this program?

what tips

> can you give? also its selling point is that you need not do

exercising to

> get the results,, so why do I see many of you DOING exercising??

>

> Marie

> <<* IF a cow could laugh,,,,,,,,,,,,,would milk squirt out of its

> Nose????*>>>

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Hi Sherrie.

Im 27 with 2 girls ages 8 and my youngest will be 5 in June. I live in

Mass for right now. When my kids get out of school in June we will be moving to

South Carolina. I need to lose probably about 150lbs but would be happy with

about 120lbs. Im still struggling with staying on track but atleast when i fall

off the wagon I try to get right back on. Welcome to the group and I look

forward to hearing more from you :)

scga_t <thoms13@...> wrote: Hello. :-)

I just joined and thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Sherrie, 33 in

SC (it feels like summer here, too). Hubby (34) and I are both

overweight and the kids (she's 8 & he's nearly 4) are thin.

I was told last year to lost 100-120 pounds and have spent the last

year gaining and losing a whopping 10. I've identified my problem

areas and am on my way to taming those demons. I've been heavy most

of my life. I love to cook (I collect cookbooks of all types) and

know how to plan healthy meals. I like walking, dancing, and karate,

but haven't regularly exercised in years. The weight gain over the

past 4 years has been slow and steady.

If anyone has any questions for me, just ask. I'm pretty open.

Looking forward to chatting with all of you.

BB!

Sherrie

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Welcome to the group. Just so I can introduce myself to all the newbies. My name

is and I am 38. I did not have any weight issues until about 6 years ago.

Prior to that I weighed between 100-110 pounds. I am only 5 feet tall. I started

gaining weight after I lost all the baby weight I gained with my second daughter

( my girls are 13 and 9 now). It got out of hand a few years later, despite

walking at least 2 miles a day and eating a really healthy diet, I continued to

gain weight. No one could figured out what was happening and why. I joined all

kind of programs and even argued with the Weight Watchers leader when I

continued to gain weight despite following the program.

So, I was somewhat relieved when I find out that I have polycystic ovarian

disease (PCO or PCOS). One of my docs said that I will probably never loose

weight-now I weigh 215-almost the heaviest I have ever been. However, I will

loose weight and I will show that doctor.

I am currently following the McDougall plan, which is a vegan plan-no meats or

meat products and no fat. It is easy to follow, except I cook a lot more from

scratch.

Since I started the plan earlier in the year I lost about 7 pounds. I also fell

off the wagon for a while (got sick and had no energy to cook). Now I am well

and looking forward to loosing the weight.

I also joined Curves for Women, which is a half-hour circuit program for women

to exercise. My daughter and I go together-or try to.

Good luck all

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In a message dated 4/16/02 6:54:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, thoms13@...

writes:

> year gaining and losing a whopping 10. I've

I also did this last year. BUT got down to 225 just to balloon back to 250

and then lose 10 before 2002. Now I am struggling to get a groove going.

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Welcome newbies!!!

Sherrie, you got me out of hiding for a minute (I am 41, in grad school,

recently separated from my husband & going through

he@@... so I'm not really in hiding... just don't have the time, etc.) You

intrigued me when you said you, " I've identified my

problem areas and am on my way to taming those demons. " I have identified some

problems that we relate to being a side effect of

over weight... now I think the weight is a side effect of these problems... What

kind of demons are you talking about? (I

understand if this is too personal)

By the way.... I love to cook also... know how to cook healthy... and would run

a good competition with you on cook books... (but

we do own a restaurant .. so at least I have an excuse {or write off})

For the rest of you... I am trying to get my head above water. I cry alot... I

know I need to get help... I promise myself today

I will make the call. My weight has gone up. I am near my top weight ever. I

have been attacking one bad habit at a time...

trying to break them... Maybe this approach will work... maybe counseling will

work... something has too!!!!

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Great beginning Karyl! Welcome and keep posting - I started at 225 and have

managed to drop 62 lbs C3W3D5 - you can do it!

Park

Newbie here

Good morning! I've decided to take the plunge and commit to a BFL

challenge and am hoping I can become a regular here. You all seem so

helpful and supportive! I've followed the plan in the past(with great

results in a short time!) however, I never made it past the 4 week

mark. I'm changing my attitude this time! Even though I have a long

way to go (at 240 lbs) I will succeed. Exercise has never been an

issue...love it...unfortunately, I love food,too. Gonna change that

relationship :) I'm grocery shopping today, taking measurements and

pics, and finish planning my workouts cuz tomorrow I begin! Thanks

for listening and I look forward to getting to know you all!

-Karyl

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Hi Karyl,

I'm the same way, love to work out but love to eat (a lot!), too.

Unfortunately (and I'm sure you already know this), you can work out

till the hogs come home, and it'll do you no good if you don't eat

clean. It's sad but true. :( Anytime I read an interview with a

fitness competitor, she's bound to say that nutrition is 80% of the

lookin' hot equation.

The best advice I've received from the ladies on this board is to

stay consistent, eat all your meals and watch your portion sizes.

Some ladies here don't count calories; I do. I find that I can

figure out my portion sizes better that way.

Also, the biggest mistake I've made in the past is going crazy on

free day and eating everything in sight. Don't do it! Eat what you

want but in moderation. You'll get the best results if you limit

yourself to one or two free controlled meals. Oh, and drink your

water, 3-5 litres a day! Keep posting, too.

Dani

-- In @y..., " feelinfreeus " <Mssnos1@a...>

wrote:

> Good morning! I've decided to take the plunge and commit to a BFL

> challenge and am hoping I can become a regular here. You all seem

so

> helpful and supportive! I've followed the plan in the past(with

great

> results in a short time!) however, I never made it past the 4 week

> mark. I'm changing my attitude this time! Even though I have a long

> way to go (at 240 lbs) I will succeed. Exercise has never been an

> issue...love it...unfortunately, I love food,too. Gonna change that

> relationship :) I'm grocery shopping today, taking measurements and

> pics, and finish planning my workouts cuz tomorrow I begin! Thanks

> for listening and I look forward to getting to know you all!

> -Karyl

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Welcome to the club, Karyl.

You are going to love this program, especially if you love working

out and food. Yes, I said food. We are like women who are forever

getting into bad relationships, it isn't that being in love is bad

for us, it is the ones we choose to love that's the problem.

Learn to love cottage cheese, chicken, tuna, salmon, veggies, fruits,

whole grains....and of course WATER, and you will do fine.

Alys

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feelinfreeus wrote:

> Good morning! I've decided to take the plunge and commit to a BFL

> challenge and am hoping I can become a regular here. You all seem so

> helpful and supportive! I've followed the plan in the past(with great

> results in a short time!) however, I never made it past the 4 week

> mark. I'm changing my attitude this time! Even though I have a long

> way to go (at 240 lbs) I will succeed. Exercise has never been an

> issue...love it...unfortunately, I love food,too. Gonna change that

> relationship :) I'm grocery shopping today, taking measurements and

> pics, and finish planning my workouts cuz tomorrow I begin! Thanks

> for listening and I look forward to getting to know you all!

> -Karyl

Woowoo!! Congrats for taking the plunge :) You won't regret it.. and you've

got good company!

I started somewhere between 270 and 280 and I'm loving BFL :) I can still

eat all the food I really love on my free day so I don't feel hungry or like

I'm denying myself the things I love. :)

Serenity!

--

http://www.theonion.com

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What a small world. HELLLLLOOOOO, JAN!!!!

Remember 'CrunchyParents', LOL? We are still there, down to a

membership of only a few, but Joanne, , Chrystal, Luz, and Amy

are still there. Thanks so much for the update!!! By the way, I

don't remember if you were there for my epidural discussion with the

list, but I wound up giving birth to my third at home with no

meds :) She is not vaccinated. Ethan wound up having autism, by the

way. is fine - selectively vaccinated him and both are on the

gluten and casein free diet.

Glad to see you here!

> Hi!

>

> My name is Jan and I have 8 children. I'm a SAHM and we homeschool.

>

> My first 5 babies were completely vaccinated(for that time frame~

1982- 1994. It's amazing to me how many more shots they've added to

the " mandatory " list since then.) We never had any problems with vaxs

until my (now)8yr old was born and was given the new HepB shot at

birth & at 2wks. Then he had the DPT & the other regular shots at

2mos old~ to which he had a severe reaction.

>

> We're still not sure if it was the HepB or the Pertussis in the DPT

or the combination of the shots, but he stopped breathing 3 times the

second night after the shots. We co-slept(for ease of breastfeeding ;-

) so I was able to shake him and get him to breathe all three times.

He stopped breathing several more times during the night, but caught

himself each time and breathed again on his own. This was, obviously,

an Extremely stressful night.

>

> He also had other issues with his sinuses, caught colds very

easily, and just seemed overall much sicker than any of my other

children had ever been. It wasn't until he was nearly a year old( &

had gotten all his shots on schedule) that I started reading more

about vaccinations and realized that what had happened to him after

his 2mos shots was vaccine related, not just some sort of illness.

>

> My pediatrician was fine with me waiting to give him his MMR until

he was 2~ now I look back and am extremely thankful that I waited at

least that long or my son could have had much worse problems.

>

> By the time I had my next baby(4yrs later) I was refusing most

vaccinations (and the nurse at the hospital was Mad that I refused

the HepB for him!lol). I also declined to give boosters to my older

kids by this time.

>

> My pediatrician(whom I had had long conversations about

vaccinations with) was willing to compromise on the vax issue and

continued to see us(his associates have refused service to any who

were refusing to vax or selectively vax).

>

> My last 3 babies have been selectively vaccinated. We've also

changed to a new pediatrician who is much more supportive about my

choices and willing to work with me on vaccination issues as well as

breastfeeding issues.

>

> I'm really looking forward to catching up on the reading here and

finding out more about the new shots. Sorry this was so long! :-)

>

> Jan

> (mom of 8 & doula)

>

>

>

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Welcome ,

Whole foods are better. But, I like to keep a good whey protein

powder on hand, for meals when meat/cottage cheese/etc. doesn't sound

good. Then you can just grab an apple/orange/or another carb and

it's a meal. It's cheaper than a meal replacement powder, too.

Keep in touch,

Becky

> Hi ladies,

>

> I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself and ask a

question

>

> My name is and I live Northeast of Atlanta. I have been

working out sporadically over the last few months. Nothing serious

but better than nothing.

>

> I am starting my first challenge tomorrow and have a question about

the meal replacement shakes and such.

> Unfortunately my financial situation is not so good and I have

found that the shakes are quite expensive.

> What would you recommend as a replacement for the shakes? Is there

a cheaper version out there or what kind of food would work in the

interim until I can get some.

>

> Thanks and I look forward to getting to know you guys.

> I am psyched and ready to go :)

>

>

>

>

>

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I am sure everyone has said this already because I haven't gotten far

enough down the board to read the responses to your post, but

anyways... I don't do the shakes or meal replacement bars. Not so

much because of the cost, but more so because I just don't like

them. You can work this program by eating whole foods. Cottage

cheese and a fruit are a good example of something quick. There are

several good recipes around, the fool yourself cookies for example.

They're not bad as far as taste goes, and they're super quick. Not

to mention they travel well. Hope I helped and was not too

redundant. Good luck, the group will be here to push you when you

need it!

Jill

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,

Welcome! You are going to LOVE this program! And the best

substitute for shakes is REAL FOOD! The only reason to use shakes

and bars is convenience, or in case of emergency. I eat a lot of

fruit and cottage cheese because I like it. I'll also make sandwiches

on whole wheat or sprouted wheat bread when I need something portable!

Lynda

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Welcome to the group Heidi,

We have quite a few Canadians here. Have they tried you on predisone or

Methotrexate yet?

You have found a great home here.

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- newbie here

HI everyone

My name is Heidi, and I am from Canada. (My birthday is Feb. 22, 1962) That

means that I'm, ummm-oh yeah-41! My husband and I have six children, ages 18

to 6, a lively black lab dog, and a live-in grandpa. We currently home

school the four youngest kids.

I was diagnosed with Stills in May. Looking back, I see all the pieces of

the puzzle--going to bed just freezing and waking up in a sweat. Rash. Joint

pain-flaming joint pain. This was tough, because I had to set my guitar

aside, as I could not even close my hand to make a fist. It took probably 2

years to get a diagnosis-the rash-I dismissed as contact dermatitis-the

arthralgias are what got my attention. Even so, my gp didn't draw a

correlation between the two, but he was willing to send me on for more

diagnosis. I got sent to an allergist, who sent me to the rheumy.(later, my

gp told me that I was the first patient in 27 years that he had encountered

with Stills).

I am on Celebrex, which seems to keep the inflammation down. my finger

joints are much better. Wrist pain has been the most debilitating. Although

I am concerned about side effects, I am thankful that I can function with

minor pain most of the time, instead of arresting pain most of the time. I

can play the piano for a reasonable time. I can type-for a while it was

almost impossible. I even picked up the guitar without suffering for days

afterward.

I found 2 grams of Vitamin C per day calms the rash symptoms. I still don't

know what the triggers are. One night, I went out for coffee and a rich

piece of almond mocha torte-and had no rash that night....guess I can't do

that every night, though. Maybe the relaxing part was good. I find the

rashes are worse with stress.

Has anyone investigated long term low dose antibiotics as a

treatment-sometimes used for Rheumatoid Arthritis and related diseases?

I am thankful for this group-I look forward to getting to know you better.

Thanks for your time.

Blessings

Heidi

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Welcome to the group Heidi,

We have quite a few Canadians here. Have they tried you on predisone or

Methotrexate yet?

You have found a great home here.

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- newbie here

HI everyone

My name is Heidi, and I am from Canada. (My birthday is Feb. 22, 1962) That

means that I'm, ummm-oh yeah-41! My husband and I have six children, ages 18

to 6, a lively black lab dog, and a live-in grandpa. We currently home

school the four youngest kids.

I was diagnosed with Stills in May. Looking back, I see all the pieces of

the puzzle--going to bed just freezing and waking up in a sweat. Rash. Joint

pain-flaming joint pain. This was tough, because I had to set my guitar

aside, as I could not even close my hand to make a fist. It took probably 2

years to get a diagnosis-the rash-I dismissed as contact dermatitis-the

arthralgias are what got my attention. Even so, my gp didn't draw a

correlation between the two, but he was willing to send me on for more

diagnosis. I got sent to an allergist, who sent me to the rheumy.(later, my

gp told me that I was the first patient in 27 years that he had encountered

with Stills).

I am on Celebrex, which seems to keep the inflammation down. my finger

joints are much better. Wrist pain has been the most debilitating. Although

I am concerned about side effects, I am thankful that I can function with

minor pain most of the time, instead of arresting pain most of the time. I

can play the piano for a reasonable time. I can type-for a while it was

almost impossible. I even picked up the guitar without suffering for days

afterward.

I found 2 grams of Vitamin C per day calms the rash symptoms. I still don't

know what the triggers are. One night, I went out for coffee and a rich

piece of almond mocha torte-and had no rash that night....guess I can't do

that every night, though. Maybe the relaxing part was good. I find the

rashes are worse with stress.

Has anyone investigated long term low dose antibiotics as a

treatment-sometimes used for Rheumatoid Arthritis and related diseases?

I am thankful for this group-I look forward to getting to know you better.

Thanks for your time.

Blessings

Heidi

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Hi Heidi,

I'm (27 years old) and I was diagnosed a year ago in May. Right now

I'm on prednisone and remicade. I am writing because you mentioned the low dose

antibiotics. I had heard of that treatment for rheumatoid arthritis and my

mother mentioned it to me. So I asked my rheumatologist about it because I

figured what could it hurt. He told me that he uses it for mild rheumatoid or

severe osteoarthritis, but he had never heard that it was proven to work with

Stills. Who knows though? I guess it's something to ask your doctor about.

There's a doctor that I've heard about that uses antibiotics for a lot of

different things and especially arthritis because he feels that bacteria might

be

the root of a lot of these problems. His name is Dr. Merken (sp?) if you want

to check him out online (he has a radio show too). I have read the article he

wrote about antibiotics and arthritis - kind of interesting. Well, I hope I

gave some helpful info. Take care.

Buffalo, NY

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Welcome also Heidi! You have found some good people in this group. My name

is Patty and add the Melt as a nickname. I've been diagnosed since the

seventies and am available to be a friend.

You sound as if you have a houseful and it must be filled with love and that

is the best medicine I know. I hope you like us here and join our family

for a long time.

As to the vitamin therapy there was only one person a few years ago that

found it worked for him but he is no longer with the group and we have no

information on that for you. I would say, that would be a good question for

your doctor. I too played the violin and for many years was unable to play,

but these past few I got another one and can play again. Not as technically

as before but it does make me happy. Sometimes we have to set things aside

for a while but often we can find other things to fill the void. And I

always believe in anything being possible. As I said before, welcome and

hope your day is well.

Smiles, Melt

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From: " H Goertz " <hkg@...>

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> My name is Heidi, and I am from Canada. (> I was diagnosed with Stills in

May. Looking back, I see all the pieces of the puzzle--going to bed just

freezing and waking up in a sweat. Rash. Joint pain-flaming joint pain.

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HI Lynn

Sorry for the blank email-my mouse is sticky.

I am only taking Celebrex, as it seems to be working for now. And I am glad!

Thanks

Heidi

newbie here

HI everyone

My name is Heidi, and I am from Canada. (My birthday is Feb. 22, 1962) That

means that I'm, ummm-oh yeah-41! My husband and I have six children, ages 18

to 6, a lively black lab dog, and a live-in grandpa. We currently home

school the four youngest kids.

I was diagnosed with Stills in May. Looking back, I see all the pieces of

the puzzle--going to bed just freezing and waking up in a sweat. Rash. Joint

pain-flaming joint pain. This was tough, because I had to set my guitar

aside, as I could not even close my hand to make a fist. It took probably 2

years to get a diagnosis-the rash-I dismissed as contact dermatitis-the

arthralgias are what got my attention. Even so, my gp didn't draw a

correlation between the two, but he was willing to send me on for more

diagnosis. I got sent to an allergist, who sent me to the rheumy.(later, my

gp told me that I was the first patient in 27 years that he had encountered

with Stills).

I am on Celebrex, which seems to keep the inflammation down. my finger

joints are much better. Wrist pain has been the most debilitating. Although

I am concerned about side effects, I am thankful that I can function with

minor pain most of the time, instead of arresting pain most of the time. I

can play the piano for a reasonable time. I can type-for a while it was

almost impossible. I even picked up the guitar without suffering for days

afterward.

I found 2 grams of Vitamin C per day calms the rash symptoms. I still don't

know what the triggers are. One night, I went out for coffee and a rich

piece of almond mocha torte-and had no rash that night....guess I can't do

that every night, though. Maybe the relaxing part was good. I find the

rashes are worse with stress.

Has anyone investigated long term low dose antibiotics as a

treatment-sometimes used for Rheumatoid Arthritis and related diseases?

I am thankful for this group-I look forward to getting to know you better.

Thanks for your time.

Blessings

Heidi

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That is awesome Heidi,

The less drugs the better I think. I wish that worked for me but did

absolutely nothing for me. Glad you are here.

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

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-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

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HI Lynn

Sorry for the blank email-my mouse is sticky.

I am only taking Celebrex, as it seems to be working for now. And I am

glad!

Thanks

Heidi

newbie here

HI everyone

My name is Heidi, and I am from Canada. (My birthday is Feb. 22, 1962)

That

means that I'm, ummm-oh yeah-41! My husband and I have six children, ages

18

to 6, a lively black lab dog, and a live-in grandpa. We currently home

school the four youngest kids.

I was diagnosed with Stills in May. Looking back, I see all the pieces of

the puzzle--going to bed just freezing and waking up in a sweat. Rash.

Joint

pain-flaming joint pain. This was tough, because I had to set my guitar

aside, as I could not even close my hand to make a fist. It took probably

2

years to get a diagnosis-the rash-I dismissed as contact dermatitis-the

arthralgias are what got my attention. Even so, my gp didn't draw a

correlation between the two, but he was willing to send me on for more

diagnosis. I got sent to an allergist, who sent me to the rheumy.(later,

my

gp told me that I was the first patient in 27 years that he had

encountered

with Stills).

I am on Celebrex, which seems to keep the inflammation down. my finger

joints are much better. Wrist pain has been the most debilitating.

Although

I am concerned about side effects, I am thankful that I can function with

minor pain most of the time, instead of arresting pain most of the time. I

can play the piano for a reasonable time. I can type-for a while it was

almost impossible. I even picked up the guitar without suffering for days

afterward.

I found 2 grams of Vitamin C per day calms the rash symptoms. I still don

t

know what the triggers are. One night, I went out for coffee and a rich

piece of almond mocha torte-and had no rash that night....guess I can't do

that every night, though. Maybe the relaxing part was good. I find the

rashes are worse with stress.

Has anyone investigated long term low dose antibiotics as a

treatment-sometimes used for Rheumatoid Arthritis and related diseases?

I am thankful for this group-I look forward to getting to know you better.

Thanks for your time.

Blessings

Heidi

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