Re: Re: Women more depressed by asthma and Samter's than men

[Guest guest]

I wondered that too and have a family member that has rheumatoid arthritis. We have often sat and discussed the similarities of our diseases effects on our mental and emotional health. During times of flare ups.......the lack of relief in site becomes a heavy burden to live with. Honestly......this group helps alot. People, even those closest to us, often dont understand the physical strain that this disease presents.Bianca On Jul 3, 2011, at 9:11 AM, "asfy" <asfyso@...> wrote:

In my personal opinion, chronic sinusitis is already depressing by itself after a while. When it becomes severe, when you add polyps and then asthma, and throw in some food intolerances for good measure, one wonders how it could be possible not to be affected.

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> > Psychiatr Pol. 2011 Mar-Apr;45(2):197-209.

> > [Differences in sense of coherence in difficult and aspirin-induced asthma and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of women and men].

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> > [Article in Polish]

> > Potoczek A.

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> > Klinika Psychiatrii Dorosłych Katedry Psychiatrii UJ CM.

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> > Abstract

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> > The author examined psychiatrically a group of 106 patients with difficult asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma. The special interest of the study were differences in sense of coherence in both groups and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of asthmatic women and men.

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> > METHODS:

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> > 106 consecutive adults with confirmed, physician-diagnosed difficult asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma underwent psychiatric interview and assessment using M.I.N.I 5.0, Beck Depression Inventory (BDI), Panic And Agoraphobia Scale (PAS) and Sense of Coherence Scale (SOC-29). Psychiatric assessment was performed by an experienced liaison psychiatrist according to ICD-10 and DSM-IV diagnosis. In the difficult asthma group, there were 78 women (74%) and 28 men (26%). The average age was 51.3 (SD = 14.5) for women and 47.5 (SD = 12.7) for men. In aspirin induced asthma group there were 66 women (66%) and 34 men (34%). The average age was 52.7 (SD = 12.3) for women and 48.8 (SD = 13.0) for men.

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> > RESULTS:

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> > In both groups of asthmatic patients women were the majority (74% with difficult asthma and 66% with aspirin-induced asthma) with a much higher level of anxiety and depressive symptoms than men. General coherence and coherence measured in all three sub-scales were lower in the difficult asthma group, especially in women with severe panic and depressive symptoms.

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> > CONCLUSIONS:

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> > It is possible that differences of coherence affect the development, course and severity of anxiety and depressive symptoms in asthmatic women and men. It may play a special role in development of difficult asthma especially among women.

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[Guest guest]

Too true.

Becky

From: Bianca <bianca_f75@...>"samters " <samters >Sent: Sun, 3 July, 2011 18:20:24Subject: Re: Re: Women more depressed by asthma and Samter's than men

I wondered that too and have a family member that has rheumatoid arthritis. We have often sat and discussed the similarities of our diseases effects on our mental and emotional health. During times of flare ups.......the lack of relief in site becomes a heavy burden to live with. Honestly......this group helps alot. People, even those closest to us, often dont understand the physical strain that this disease presents.Bianca

On Jul 3, 2011, at 9:11 AM, "asfy" <asfyso@...> wrote:

In my personal opinion, chronic sinusitis is already depressing by itself after a while. When it becomes severe, when you add polyps and then asthma, and throw in some food intolerances for good measure, one wonders how it could be possible not to be affected.> > > Psychiatr Pol. 2011 Mar-Apr;45(2):197-209.> > [Differences in sense of coherence in difficult and aspirin-induced asthma and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of women and men].> > > > [Article in Polish]> > Potoczek A.> > Source> > > > Klinika Psychiatrii Dorosłych Katedry Psychiatrii UJ CM.> > > > Abstract> > > > AIM:> > > > The author examined psychiatrically a group of 106 patients with difficult asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma. The special interest of the study were differences in sense of coherence in both groups and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of asthmatic women and men.> > > > METHODS:> > > > 106 consecutive adults with

confirmed, physician-diagnosed difficult asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma underwent psychiatric interview and assessment using M.I.N.I 5.0, Beck Depression Inventory (BDI), Panic And Agoraphobia Scale (PAS) and Sense of Coherence Scale (SOC-29). Psychiatric assessment was performed by an experienced liaison psychiatrist according to ICD-10 and DSM-IV diagnosis. In the difficult asthma group, there were 78 women (74%) and 28 men (26%). The average age was 51.3 (SD = 14.5) for women and 47.5 (SD = 12.7) for men. In aspirin induced asthma group there were 66 women (66%) and 34 men (34%). The average age was 52.7 (SD = 12.3) for women and 48.8 (SD = 13.0) for men.> > > > RESULTS:> > > > In both groups of asthmatic patients women were the majority (74% with difficult asthma and 66% with aspirin-induced asthma) with a much higher level of anxiety and depressive symptoms than men. General coherence and

coherence measured in all three sub-scales were lower in the difficult asthma group, especially in women with severe panic and depressive symptoms.> > > > CONCLUSIONS:> > > > It is possible that differences of coherence affect the development, course and severity of anxiety and depressive symptoms in asthmatic women and men. It may play a special role in development of difficult asthma especially among women.> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your post - you have some very valid points here. I was just reflecting on depression this morning as I woke up aware that for one whole week i haven't felt the awful crushing depression that has been with me for months previously that it is normal to feel low and bad about being chronically ill.

Becky

From: rtdinc2003 <rtdinc@...>samters Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 22:40:22Subject: Re: Women more depressed by asthma and Samter's than men

Having asthma, severe allergies and stuffed full of nasal polyps is depressing. The last two years before polyp surgery I had chronic sinus infections and laying down in bed was like being water-boarded.Hell, life can be depressing at times. Depression is normal. In the past, folks would talk about how everyone had their "dark periods" or getting the blues. Add a chronic disease that lowers your activity level and impacts sleep and voila, dark thoughts come more frequently.Before I had Samter's, I had bone-on-bone osteo-arthritis in both hips starting at age 30 until double hip replacement at 41. Guess what, I was depressed about it. In constant pain, getting no more than 15-minutes of sleep at a time and only being able to walk 1/4-mile before collapsing from exhaustion. If you don't get depressed from that, you are not normal!Luckily, I knew it was normal and was able to deal with it without professional help. However, if it

got any worse, I definitely would have sought help. About 1-year post-surgery I had some blue periods which I found out later was normal because of the unrealistic expectation that surgery would then make your life perfect and dark thoughts return because you are only "normal".I think this survey proved that about one-third of women and two-thirds of men are either lying or are in denial about their depression. This makes sense because women are more likely to open up about their problems and men are more likely to stuff them away.