Re: Women more depressed by asthma and Samter's than men

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Im just in shock and amazement and the siscussion on depression. Ive dealt with this issue for soooo long. Ive recently attempted to stay off of singulair for some relief. Ive decided against anti-depressants at this point.....but just really appreciate this information. Knowledge is power for sureBianca On Jul 3, 2011, at 8:46 AM, "asfy" <asfyso@...> wrote:

Psychiatr Pol. 2011 Mar-Apr;45(2):197-209.[Differences in sense of coherence in difficult and aspirin-induced asthma and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of women and men].[Article in Polish]Potoczek A.SourceKlinika Psychiatrii Dorosłych Katedry Psychiatrii UJ CM.AbstractAIM:The author examined psychiatrically a group of 106 patients with difficult asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma. The special interest of the study were differences in sense of coherence in both groups and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of asthmatic women and men.METHODS:106 consecutive adults with confirmed, physician-diagnosed difficult asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma underwent psychiatric interview and assessment using M.I.N.I 5.0, Beck Depression Inventory (BDI), Panic And Agoraphobia Scale (PAS) and Sense of Coherence Scale (SOC-29). Psychiatric assessment was performed by an experienced liaison psychiatrist according to ICD-10 and DSM-IV diagnosis. In the difficult asthma group, there were 78 women (74%) and 28 men (26%). The average age was 51.3 (SD = 14.5) for women and 47.5 (SD = 12.7) for men. In aspirin induced asthma group there were 66 women (66%) and 34 men (34%). The average age was 52.7 (SD = 12.3) for women and 48.8 (SD = 13.0) for men.RESULTS:In both groups of asthmatic patients women were the majority (74% with difficult asthma and 66% with aspirin-induced asthma) with a much higher level of anxiety and depressive symptoms than men. General coherence and coherence measured in all three sub-scales were lower in the difficult asthma group, especially in women with severe panic and depressive symptoms.CONCLUSIONS:It is possible that differences of coherence affect the development, course and severity of anxiety and depressive symptoms in asthmatic women and men. It may play a special role in development of difficult asthma especially among women.

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In my personal opinion, chronic sinusitis is already depressing by itself after

a while. When it becomes severe, when you add polyps and then asthma, and throw

in some food intolerances for good measure, one wonders how it could be possible

not to be affected.

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> > Psychiatr Pol. 2011 Mar-Apr;45(2):197-209.

> > [Differences in sense of coherence in difficult and aspirin-induced asthma

and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of

women and men].

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> > [Article in Polish]

> > Potoczek A.

> > Source

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> > Klinika Psychiatrii Dorosłych Katedry Psychiatrii UJ CM.

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> > Abstract

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> > AIM:

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> > The author examined psychiatrically a group of 106 patients with difficult

asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma. The special interest of the

study were differences in sense of coherence in both groups and it's links with

severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of asthmatic women and

men.

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> > METHODS:

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> > 106 consecutive adults with confirmed, physician-diagnosed difficult asthma

and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma underwent psychiatric interview and

assessment using M.I.N.I 5.0, Beck Depression Inventory (BDI), Panic And

Agoraphobia Scale (PAS) and Sense of Coherence Scale (SOC-29). Psychiatric

assessment was performed by an experienced liaison psychiatrist according to

ICD-10 and DSM-IV diagnosis. In the difficult asthma group, there were 78 women

(74%) and 28 men (26%). The average age was 51.3 (SD = 14.5) for women and 47.5

(SD = 12.7) for men. In aspirin induced asthma group there were 66 women (66%)

and 34 men (34%). The average age was 52.7 (SD = 12.3) for women and 48.8 (SD =

13.0) for men.

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> > RESULTS:

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> > In both groups of asthmatic patients women were the majority (74% with

difficult asthma and 66% with aspirin-induced asthma) with a much higher level

of anxiety and depressive symptoms than men. General coherence and coherence

measured in all three sub-scales were lower in the difficult asthma group,

especially in women with severe panic and depressive symptoms.

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> > CONCLUSIONS:

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> > It is possible that differences of coherence affect the development, course

and severity of anxiety and depressive symptoms in asthmatic women and men. It

may play a special role in development of difficult asthma especially among

women.

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University of Southern California (2011, June 29). Mechanism by which chronic stress causes brain disease identified. ScienceDaily. Retrieved July 3, 2011, from http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110629091640.htm

Chronic stress has been related to depression but also to neurodegenerative disease.I personally am being treated for depression and have suffered from panic attacks on several occasions.Also obsessive- compulsive. I believe the SSRI class of drugs facilitates a rewiring our brains (ie with C.B.T(cognitive behavioral therapy))-.Also proper treatment is one way to reduce this stress.

Females have greater connectivity between the two brain hemispheres which allows for multi tasking wheras men focus more in one area at a time.Perhaps this explains why females are more affected. Wayne

-- In samters , "asfy" <asfyso@...> wrote:>> In my personal opinion, chronic sinusitis is already depressing by itself after a while. When it becomes severe, when you add polyps and then asthma, and throw in some food intolerances for good measure, one wonders how it could be possible not to be affected.> > > > > > > Psychiatr Pol. 2011 Mar-Apr;45(2):197-209.> > > [Differences in sense of coherence in difficult and aspirin-induced asthma and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of women and men].> > > > > > [Article in Polish]> > > Potoczek A.> > > Source> > > > > > Klinika Psychiatrii Dorosłych Katedry Psychiatrii UJ CM.> > > > > > Abstract> > > > > > AIM:> > > > > > The author examined psychiatrically a group of 106 patients with difficult asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma. The special interest of the study were differences in sense of coherence in both groups and it's links with severity of panic and depressive symptoms in subgroups of asthmatic women and men.> > > > > > METHODS:> > > > > > 106 consecutive adults with confirmed, physician-diagnosed difficult asthma and 100 patients with aspirin-induced asthma underwent psychiatric interview and assessment using M.I.N.I 5.0, Beck Depression Inventory (BDI), Panic And Agoraphobia Scale (PAS) and Sense of Coherence Scale (SOC-29). Psychiatric assessment was performed by an experienced liaison psychiatrist according to ICD-10 and DSM-IV diagnosis. In the difficult asthma group, there were 78 women (74%) and 28 men (26%). The average age was 51.3 (SD = 14.5) for women and 47.5 (SD = 12.7) for men. In aspirin induced asthma group there were 66 women (66%) and 34 men (34%). The average age was 52.7 (SD = 12.3) for women and 48.8 (SD = 13.0) for men.> > > > > > RESULTS:> > > > > > In both groups of asthmatic patients women were the majority (74% with difficult asthma and 66% with aspirin-induced asthma) with a much higher level of anxiety and depressive symptoms than men. General coherence and coherence measured in all three sub-scales were lower in the difficult asthma group, especially in women with severe panic and depressive symptoms.> > > > > > CONCLUSIONS:> > > > > > It is possible that differences of coherence affect the development, course and severity of anxiety and depressive symptoms in asthmatic women and men. It may play a special role in development of difficult asthma especially among women.> > > > > >> >>

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Having asthma, severe allergies and stuffed full of nasal polyps is depressing.

The last two years before polyp surgery I had chronic sinus infections and

laying down in bed was like being water-boarded.

Hell, life can be depressing at times. Depression is normal. In the past,

folks would talk about how everyone had their " dark periods " or getting the

blues. Add a chronic disease that lowers your activity level and impacts sleep

and voila, dark thoughts come more frequently.

Before I had Samter's, I had bone-on-bone osteo-arthritis in both hips starting

at age 30 until double hip replacement at 41. Guess what, I was depressed about

it. In constant pain, getting no more than 15-minutes of sleep at a time and

only being able to walk 1/4-mile before collapsing from exhaustion. If you

don't get depressed from that, you are not normal!

Luckily, I knew it was normal and was able to deal with it without professional

help. However, if it got any worse, I definitely would have sought help. About

1-year post-surgery I had some blue periods which I found out later was normal

because of the unrealistic expectation that surgery would then make your life

perfect and dark thoughts return because you are only " normal " .

I think this survey proved that about one-third of women and two-thirds of men

are either lying or are in denial about their depression. This makes sense

because women are more likely to open up about their problems and men are more

likely to stuff them away.