Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 My name is a Kraybill My son started having these episodes when he was quite young, although I can't put a definite age to them--maybe 1 y.o. give or take a few months. He would have a sudden onset of tight-sounding respirations with a barky cough and inspiratory stridor. These episodes would come on VERY suddenly--one normal breath, then a kind of tight sounding breath (wheezy) then it would be as though he could barely breathe with loud stridor. We were so focused on his airway that we didn't pay much attention to the fevers, although they weren't very severe. He would be warm enough to touch to know that there was a fever, but we were doing the croup dance at that point. The docs told us that it was " croup caused by a viral respiratory infection " although they happened so frequently and regularly that I was suspicious, and no one else got sick. When he was about 4 1/2 or so we took him to a Pulmonologist who felt that the episodes were most likely a reaction to something or asthma and put him on Singulair. He never had another episode until he was taken off the Singulair. Shortly thereafter, he started having horrid headaches and the oral lesions appeared. In between the " croup " episodes, he was symptom-free. Several times, before we started seeing the pulmonologist, he was prescribed a short course of Prednisone for his airway and we did notice that the episodes increased somewhat in frequency. He started having killer headaches and GI symptoms about the same time that the oral lesions started. He also has a generalized aching and the lesions are slow to heal. The headaches have been diagnosed as migraines (strong family history on both sides) but they do not respond to standard migraine meds. Because no one can find a physical reason for the aching, he has been labelled psychosomatic. The chronic pain/headaches/recurrent painful oral lesions have led to major depression for him, so something else to add to the mix. We don't have an official diagnosis, just suspicion by the allergist who also worked with the immunology folks around here. He was empirically treated with cimetidine and the lesions resolved. --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Tricia, my son is on Singulair for allergies, but I have been doing some research and talking to the docs. There's an article you can read, relative to HIDS (but may also be the same for ), on PubMed by a research team in the Netherlands (Frenkel et al) titled " Increased urinary leukotriene E(4) during febrile attacks in the hyperimmunoglobulinaemia D and periodic fever syndrome " . In a nutshell (and please, medical people, correct me if I'm wrong or misstate something here!), it seems that leukotrienes are elevated during episodes. This group postulated that an anti-leukotriene drug, like Singulair, could have a positive effect during fevers. Our own experience (and we've only been on it for a little while) has been that the frequency of Ben's fevers, and the duration of the fevers themselves, are diminishing. He still complains of periodic joint pain and the occasional tummy ache, but the temps are not as high as they used to be - we rarely go above 104F anymore. The only downside I've seen with the drug is that our son's fevering is no longer as predictable as before. Prior to Singulair, he fevered exactly every 11 days. But I'll trade less fevering for more unpredictability any time! Kate, mom to Ben, 3 yrs old (diagnosed ; possible HIDS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 My daughter almost always complains of leg pain, sometimes to the point that she will not walk. Trish triciaginis <triciaginis@...> wrote: Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your children? I appreciate the input. Tricia --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 > My daughter is taking singulair - it was prescribed because it is currently I guess a trial med for some of the periodic fever syndrome. The first two episodes on the med she had decreased temps (from 105 - 102 ish) but still had all her other symptoms (she is not typical , so we are still undergoing testing to see if we can figure out a diagnosis). Now this is the time she is due for a fever. For the past few days she has been acting like she does when fevering (very irritable, complaining of " ows " - she is only just two and can't make other complaints, and her glands have been swollen) I am not sure if a fever will come in a few days or if she skipped it this time but so far, no temp. That is my experience so far. Hope it helps. Lori Mom to four daughters including (2) ?pfs > From: " triciaginis " <triciaginis@...> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu AM 01:27:23 EDT > > Subject: singulair > > Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the > medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that > some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if > you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are > beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout > and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next > time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not > specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your > children? I appreciate the input. > Tricia > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Tricia, Jarrod specifically mentions pain in his legs, knees and feet. I never notice redness or swelling, but he refuses to walk. (SWFL) Mother of Jarrod On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 05:27:23 -0000 " triciaginis " <triciaginis@...> writes: Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your children? I appreciate the input. Tricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Tricia, We haven't got a diagnosis yet - but Aidan's neck will hurt - to the point of not turning it. We have been to ER several times thinking menengitis - but it wasn't. His legs will also hurt - he won't walk down the stairs and once his hands hurt. So I don't know. But I hope that this info. will help you in some small way. Hannah > > Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the > medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that > some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if > you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are > beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout > and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next > time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not > specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your > children? I appreciate the input. > Tricia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete break in fevers. She does however still have all of the other symptoms. Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. We were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which seems to be helping. She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah this is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well and she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made her start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided if they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe this taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again tomarrow after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they over reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there to continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. Well thanks for letting me vent! Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) ville, TN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Our son too has more muscle ache pain in his legs, does not seem to be at the joints. Which typically requires us to give him Motrin because he is in so much pain. Patti, mother of Brady 7 triciaginis <triciaginis@...> wrote: Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your children? I appreciate the input. Tricia __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Out of curiousity - does she have a 504 plan because of her HIDS? Does anyone elses child respond to heat like this here? I haven't really thought about it - but it's really HOT down here . . . like 107 daily with bad ozone . . . I hate this. But anyways - Aidan started fevering last summer - but I am wondering now if the fevering is worse in summer months . .. hmm. Hannah > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete break > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other symptoms. > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. We > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which seems > to be helping. > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah this > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well and > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made her > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided if > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe this > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again tomarrow > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they over > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there to > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > ville, TN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 I've wondered this as well. Some autoimmune disorders such as Lupus are aggrivated by hot weather, which makes me ponder the question " Is an autoimmune or inflamitory disorder? " My daughter's episodes started coming much closer together at the end of May, just about when it started warming up here in California. Food for thought. mom to morgan (5) and audrey (3 ) --- hannahls73 <hannahlsmith@...> wrote: > Out of curiousity - does she have a 504 plan because > of her HIDS? > Does anyone elses child respond to heat like this > here? I haven't > really thought about it - but it's really HOT down > here . . . like > 107 daily with bad ozone . . . I hate this. But > anyways - Aidan > started fevering last summer - but I am wondering > now if the > fevering is worse in summer months . .. hmm. > > Hannah > > > > > > > > > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had > a complete > break > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the > other > symptoms. > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most > significant for her. > We > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a > NSAID which > seems > > to be helping. > > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today > has done well. > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. > It was 95 degrees > > out today and they took the children out for > recess for Hannah > this > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. > I don't know how > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will > bring on Hannah's > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't > sweat very well > and > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell > and she becomes > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened > today and the > > teachers started to panic a little which scared > Hannah and made > her > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy > with the whole > > situation. Of course the whole situation could > have been avoided > if > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I > think maybe > this > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to > try it again > tomarrow > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I > am glad they > over > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had > left Hannah there > to > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be > at the hospital. > > > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical > HIDS) > > ville, TN > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 > Hi Carey I have a question for you. You have that Hannah's diagnosis is " clinical HIDS " . Can you tell me how she got the diagnosis of clinical HIDS. Are her IgD levels normal? I got 's IgD levels back (well the Dr did) and I was told they were fine. But everything I have read so far she fits more into HIDS than the others. Just thought I would ask. Thanks Lori > From: " Carey " <app_37190@...> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 10:03:30 EDT > > Subject: RE: Singulair > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete break > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other symptoms. > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. We > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which seems > to be helping. > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah this > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well and > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made her > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided if > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe this > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again tomarrow > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they over > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there to > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > ville, TN > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 My son has been on Singulair for his asthma for a year and half now, and he has had absolutely no change in his fevers. While it doesn't seem to affect HIS fevers, hopefully it will work for someone else. > > Here's a new question for everybody: > All of the data suggests that is an immune > system regulatory disorder. There is a relatively new > class of immune system regulatory drugs known as > leukotriene modifiers. The one most commonly used in > children is singulair. It appears to be an extremely > safe medication. Right now it is used mainly for > asthma but there are reports of success with > everything from chronic sinusitis to inflammatory > bowel disease. Has anyone tried this medication or > heard of it being used for S? Thanks > Dr. G > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Hi Carey and Lori, Ditto for us with the normal IgD levels, though Lily only had her IgD levels checked one time, three years ago. We are pursuing much more testing this October with her Rheumatologist. The HIDS descriptions and triggers are spot-on what we experience w/Lily's episodes. I will post what happens. How frustrating about the heat situation, especially since you had been so conscientious. (Lily, 6) Seattle On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, <slsjasrodgers@...> <slsjasrodgers@...> wrote: > > > Hi Carey > I have a question for you. You have that Hannah's diagnosis is > " clinical HIDS " . Can you tell me how she got the diagnosis of > clinical HIDS. Are her IgD levels normal? I got 's IgD > levels back (well the Dr did) and I was told they were fine. But > everything I have read so far she fits more into HIDS than the > others. Just thought I would ask. > Thanks > Lori > > > From: " Carey " <app_37190@...> > > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 10:03:30 EDT > > > > Subject: RE: Singulair > > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete break > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other symptoms. > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. We > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which seems > > to be helping. > > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah this > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well and > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made her > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided if > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe this > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again tomarrow > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they over > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there to > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. > > > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > > ville, TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > d Timblin mdefaye@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Hannah Yes she has a 504 plan because of the HIDS. Where we live she can only miss a certain number of days. Because we have to travel to NIH every 3 months we know she will easily reach that number. She also has this plan because of her symptoms there will be some days that she will just not be able to participate like the other children and the plan protects her from falling through the cracks so to speak. Her doctor wrote the school system explaining about her fevers not being contagious and that I was a responsible parent that could tell the difference and that Hannah may miss days because of her illness and they should not expect a doctors note every time. It may all of us including the school feel better about the situation. I don't know if any other children react to heat like she does but I would be interested to know. Carey mom to Hannah (4yrs old clinical HIDS) ville, TN > > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete > break > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other > symptoms. > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. > We > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which > seems > > to be helping. > > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah > this > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well > and > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made > her > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided > if > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe > this > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again > tomarrow > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they > over > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there > to > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. > > > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > > ville, TN > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Lori Although Hannah's DNA tested negative for HIDS she has all the classic symptoms and responds to the medication for HIDS. She has been on Colchicine, Oral Pred and none really helped but the Singulair really has. Since she has all the classic symptoms and responds to the medicine NIH has her labeled as Clinical HIDS. Of course, she also has some TRAPS symptoms as well. Her IgD levels are normal. Carey > > > > Hi Carey > I have a question for you. You have that Hannah's diagnosis is " clinical HIDS " . Can you tell me how she got the diagnosis of clinical HIDS. Are her IgD levels normal? I got 's IgD levels back (well the Dr did) and I was told they were fine. But everything I have read so far she fits more into HIDS than the others. Just thought I would ask. > Thanks > Lori > > > > From: " Carey " <app_37190@...> > > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 10:03:30 EDT > > > > Subject: RE: Singulair > > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete break > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other symptoms. > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. We > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which seems > > to be helping. > > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah this > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well and > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made her > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided if > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe this > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again tomarrow > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they over > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there to > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. > > > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > > ville, TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 > That is very interesting. I am hoping to get into NIH soon. I would be anxious to hear what they have to say. As far as Sam and the heat, I have been keeping her out of it for the most part. I have been a little afraid of what might happen. We go to the beach next week so I will be on the watch - good luck. Lori > From: " Carey " <app_37190@...> > Date: 2006/08/18 Fri PM 07:59:57 EDT > > Subject: Re: Singulair > > Lori > > Although Hannah's DNA tested negative for HIDS she has all the > classic symptoms and responds to the medication for HIDS. She has > been on Colchicine, Oral Pred and none really helped but the > Singulair really has. Since she has all the classic symptoms and > responds to the medicine NIH has her labeled as Clinical HIDS. Of > course, she also has some TRAPS symptoms as well. Her IgD levels are > normal. > > Carey > > > > > > > > > Hi Carey > > I have a question for you. You have that Hannah's diagnosis > is " clinical HIDS " . Can you tell me how she got the diagnosis of > clinical HIDS. Are her IgD levels normal? I got 's IgD levels > back (well the Dr did) and I was told they were fine. But everything > I have read so far she fits more into HIDS than the others. Just > thought I would ask. > > Thanks > > Lori > > > > > > > From: " Carey " <app_37190@...> > > > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 10:03:30 EDT > > > > > > Subject: RE: Singulair > > > > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete > break > > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other > symptoms. > > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. > We > > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which > seems > > > to be helping. > > > > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. > > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 > degrees > > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah > this > > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know > how > > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's > > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well > and > > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes > > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made > her > > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided > if > > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe > this > > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again > tomarrow > > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they > over > > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there > to > > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. > > > > > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > > > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > > > ville, TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I just noticed today really about Sami and the heat. She came down with this last October, and today we went to the fair and she only lasted 3 hours. The last year we lasted all day and it was hotter than today. It was only in the high 80's. I let the school know to watch her with the heat during an episode, but now I need to let them know that they need to watch her in the heat even when there isn't an episode going on. Trish Carey <app_37190@...> wrote: Hannah Yes she has a 504 plan because of the HIDS. Where we live she can only miss a certain number of days. Because we have to travel to NIH every 3 months we know she will easily reach that number. She also has this plan because of her symptoms there will be some days that she will just not be able to participate like the other children and the plan protects her from falling through the cracks so to speak. Her doctor wrote the school system explaining about her fevers not being contagious and that I was a responsible parent that could tell the difference and that Hannah may miss days because of her illness and they should not expect a doctors note every time. It may all of us including the school feel better about the situation. I don't know if any other children react to heat like she does but I would be interested to know. Carey mom to Hannah (4yrs old clinical HIDS) ville, TN > > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete > break > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other > symptoms. > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. > We > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which > seems > > to be helping. > > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah > this > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well > and > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made > her > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided > if > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe > this > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again > tomarrow > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they > over > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there > to > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. > > > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > > ville, TN > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Well it's good that your Doctor and your school system are working so well together (even if your school did make a mistake) - I teach second grade (but this is only my second year) and I haven't seen any kids come through with this . . . but I was curious . . . I don't know if the heat is hurting Aidan - although I tend to think not - because it's hot down here most of the year (or so it seems right now) and I haven't really noticed anything with his fevering - because he fevers during the cold months as well. But this last little cycle of fevers were only 14 days apart - for the first time ever and we've really hit the dog days of summer right now. Thanks for the info . . . I appreciate the knowledge! Hannah > > > > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete > > break > > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other > > symptoms. > > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. > > We > > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which > > seems > > > to be helping. > > > > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well. > > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 > degrees > > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah > > this > > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know > how > > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's > > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well > > and > > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes > > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made > > her > > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided > > if > > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe > > this > > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again > > tomarrow > > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they > > over > > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there > > to > > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital. > > > > > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > > > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > > > ville, TN > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Apparently most kids actually do better in the summer atleast thats what the doctors told me. They find it curious that Hannah's actually gets worse in the summer and fall then eases in the winter. So I don't know. I guess everyone is different and they all have different triggers. Low pressure systems usually make her feel bad too. Her legs always start hurting when one is moving in. She is better than any weather person LOL. One of Hannah's biggest triggers is the weather. It took a while for me to figure some of that out but I started noticing it and would write in her fever journals the weather that day and lo and behold there was a pattern. Heat is a very obvious one for her. The symptoms are very noticible very quickly. Even as an infant Hannah could not tolerate being swadled in blankets or wearing onsies under her clothes during the winter. It would drive her grandparents crazy. But she would turn bright red and scream until you striped her down or removed the blankets. Oddly enough my brother is the same way. His house is always as cold as a meat locker even in the winter, his poor wife and kids are always complaining about the cold. He also has a lot of the same symptoms as Hannah and the weather effects him too. I just pray someday all of those brilliant doctors at NIH will figure all of it out and help all of our children. They certainly are trying their best and they have helped Hannah when no one else could. I thank God everyday that he led us to NIH. Carey > > > > > > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete > > > break > > > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other > > > symptoms. > > > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for > her. > > > We > > > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which > > > seems > > > > to be helping. > > > > > > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done > well. > > > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 > > degrees > > > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah > > > this > > > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know > > how > > > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on > Hannah's > > > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very > well > > > and > > > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she > becomes > > > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the > > > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and > made > > > her > > > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole > > > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been > avoided > > > if > > > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe > > > this > > > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again > > > tomarrow > > > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad > they > > > over > > > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah > there > > > to > > > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the > hospital. > > > > > > > > Well thanks for letting me vent! > > > > > > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS) > > > > ville, TN > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 In a message dated 8/18/2006 10:11:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, app_37190@... writes: Apparently most kids actually do better in the summer atleast thats what the doctors told me. Oh boy--I am hoping that isn't true. We started Nicky on Cimetidine July 22nd--after his last fever--and he hasn't fevered since. I am hoping it is the drug that is working and not that fact that it is summer. We start school just after Labor Day and I am hoping we have a better year this year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 depends if it truely is or not Some kids truely do grow out of it .. as you can see many a kid here does better over the summer. Kiara has broken the last 2 summers from may til october.. but episodes without a fever. NIH just stuck her on singular .. dont know if it will work or not. kiara 6 Re: Re: Singulair In a message dated 8/18/2006 10:11:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, app_37190@... writes: Apparently most kids actually do better in the summer atleast thats what the doctors told me. Oh boy--I am hoping that isn't true. We started Nicky on Cimetidine July 22nd--after his last fever--and he hasn't fevered since. I am hoping it is the drug that is working and not that fact that it is summer. We start school just after Labor Day and I am hoping we have a better year this year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 > We have not seen a single cold yet in our , she has been on it for two months now. Dont' know if that helps or not. Although none of our other kids have been sick either. I may have a different story in November. Lori Rodgers mom to four daughters including (2) ?PFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 > Hi My daughters pediatric rheumatologist has prescribed it on occasion for periodic fever syndromes but I have been told that it seems to have the best affect on those with HIDS or clinical HIDS but some others have had some progress made with its use as well. I believe it is a new treatment. I attended the Periodic Fever Disorder conference held at Hershey Medical Center in September of this year and I know Dr. Morton from the Clinic for Special Children talked about his success with its use in HIDS. He has doen much research and genetic studies, primarily in Amish and Mennonite families and he has noted some great success with Singulair with HIDS. All I know is it works for my daughter and I have not seen any side effects at this time. We are still going through the genetic testing so her disorder is still unknown but presents a little more like a HIDS than " typical " . Your doctor could speak to Dr. Groh at Hershey Medical Center or Dr Morton at the Clinic for Special Children in Strasburg PA. I do believe that NIH is also prescribing this but I cannot say that first hand. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 My son 2.6 years old is taking Singulair but not really for Pfapa but for allergies.His ped did mention it may help curb his fevers, without really given a reason how or why. He had a T & A in Feb but fevered for 2 months, then once starting Singulair he hasn't fevered since. Only minor symptoms here and there. hannahlsmith73 <hlsmith73@...> wrote: Is anyone elses child taking Singulair for or whatever? Have you noticed any change in your child's fevers? Hannah --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Our child started Singulair on September 1, 2006 for . Since that time, he has had the following intervals between fevers - 16 Weeks 3 Weeks* 10 Weeks 4 Weeks* 11 Weeks and Counting (as of today, 7/16/07)!! *In these intervals, we realized that we had skipped one or more doses of Singulair and we are hypothesizing that perhaps regular dosing of the Singulair is CRITICAL and that a missed dose at just the right time can allow a fever to break through. As with much with - just hypothesis, not nearly enough data to draw a scientific conclusion. Our son's immunologist is taking a hard look at Singulair and did a survey with this group and has been looking to publish if she can. We still give Prednisone when he does have a fever since the Singulair has spaced them so far apart. Happy to talk further if you like. Newlon, Ph.D. Senior Scientist Sensory & Products Research Testing Oral and Personal Health Care The Procter and Gamble Company Cincinnati, OH ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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