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My name is a Kraybill

My son started having these episodes when he was quite young, although I can't

put a definite age to them--maybe 1 y.o. give or take a few months. He would

have a sudden onset of tight-sounding respirations with a barky cough and

inspiratory stridor. These episodes would come on VERY suddenly--one normal

breath, then a kind of tight sounding breath (wheezy) then it would be as though

he could barely breathe with loud stridor. We were so focused on his airway

that we didn't pay much attention to the fevers, although they weren't very

severe. He would be warm enough to touch to know that there was a fever, but we

were doing the croup dance at that point.

The docs told us that it was " croup caused by a viral respiratory infection "

although they happened so frequently and regularly that I was suspicious, and no

one else got sick. When he was about 4 1/2 or so we took him to a Pulmonologist

who felt that the episodes were most likely a reaction to something or asthma

and put him on Singulair. He never had another episode until he was taken off

the Singulair. Shortly thereafter, he started having horrid headaches and the

oral lesions appeared. In between the " croup " episodes, he was symptom-free.

Several times, before we started seeing the pulmonologist, he was prescribed a

short course of Prednisone for his airway and we did notice that the episodes

increased somewhat in frequency.

He started having killer headaches and GI symptoms about the same time that

the oral lesions started. He also has a generalized aching and the lesions are

slow to heal. The headaches have been diagnosed as migraines (strong family

history on both sides) but they do not respond to standard migraine meds.

Because no one can find a physical reason for the aching, he has been labelled

psychosomatic. The chronic pain/headaches/recurrent painful oral lesions have

led to major depression for him, so something else to add to the mix.

We don't have an official diagnosis, just suspicion by the allergist who also

worked with the immunology folks around here. He was empirically treated with

cimetidine and the lesions resolved.

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Tricia, my son is on Singulair for allergies, but I have been doing some

research and talking to the docs. There's an article you can read, relative

to HIDS (but may also be the same for ), on PubMed by a research team

in the Netherlands (Frenkel et al) titled " Increased urinary leukotriene

E(4) during febrile attacks in the hyperimmunoglobulinaemia D and periodic

fever syndrome " . In a nutshell (and please, medical people, correct me if

I'm wrong or misstate something here!), it seems that leukotrienes are

elevated during episodes. This group postulated that an anti-leukotriene

drug, like Singulair, could have a positive effect during fevers. Our own

experience (and we've only been on it for a little while) has been that the

frequency of Ben's fevers, and the duration of the fevers themselves, are

diminishing. He still complains of periodic joint pain and the occasional

tummy ache, but the temps are not as high as they used to be - we rarely go

above 104F anymore. The only downside I've seen with the drug is that our

son's fevering is no longer as predictable as before. Prior to Singulair,

he fevered exactly every 11 days. But I'll trade less fevering for more

unpredictability any time!

Kate, mom to Ben, 3 yrs old (diagnosed ; possible HIDS)

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My daughter almost always complains of leg pain, sometimes to the point that she

will not walk. Trish

triciaginis <triciaginis@...> wrote: Brenden is participating in

an asthma study right now for the

medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that

some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if

you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are

beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout

and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next

time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not

specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your

children? I appreciate the input.

Tricia

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> My daughter is taking singulair - it was prescribed because it is currently I

guess a trial med for some of the periodic fever syndrome. The first two

episodes on the med she had decreased temps (from 105 - 102 ish) but still had

all her other symptoms (she is not typical , so we are still undergoing

testing to see if we can figure out a diagnosis). Now this is the time she is

due for a fever. For the past few days she has been acting like she does when

fevering (very irritable, complaining of " ows " - she is only just two and can't

make other complaints, and her glands have been swollen) I am not sure if a

fever will come in a few days or if she skipped it this time but so far, no

temp. That is my experience so far. Hope it helps.

Lori

Mom to four daughters including (2) ?pfs

> From: " triciaginis " <triciaginis@...>

> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu AM 01:27:23 EDT

>

> Subject: singulair

>

> Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the

> medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that

> some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if

> you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are

> beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout

> and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next

> time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not

> specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your

> children? I appreciate the input.

> Tricia

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Tricia,

Jarrod specifically mentions pain in his legs, knees and feet. I never

notice redness or swelling, but he refuses to walk.

(SWFL)

Mother of Jarrod

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 05:27:23 -0000 " triciaginis " <triciaginis@...>

writes:

Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the

medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that

some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if

you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are

beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout

and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next

time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not

specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your

children? I appreciate the input.

Tricia

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Tricia,

We haven't got a diagnosis yet - but Aidan's neck will hurt - to the

point of not turning it. We have been to ER several times thinking

menengitis - but it wasn't. His legs will also hurt - he won't walk

down the stairs and once his hands hurt. So I don't know. But I hope

that this info. will help you in some small way.

Hannah

>

> Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the

> medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed

that

> some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering

if

> you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we

are

> beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout

> and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next

> time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not

> specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in

your

> children? I appreciate the input.

> Tricia

>

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Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete break

in fevers. She does however still have all of the other symptoms.

Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. We

were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which seems

to be helping.

She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well.

Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees

out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah this

is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how

everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's

symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well and

she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes

extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made her

start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided if

they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe this

taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again tomarrow

after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they over

reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there to

continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital.

Well thanks for letting me vent!

Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

ville, TN

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Our son too has more muscle ache pain in his legs, does not seem to be at the

joints. Which typically requires us to give him Motrin because he is in so much

pain.

Patti, mother of Brady 7

triciaginis <triciaginis@...> wrote:

Brenden is participating in an asthma study right now for the

medication singulair. I was reading some of the posts and noticed that

some of you mentioned trying singulair for and was wondering if

you found it to be helpful. We don't have a diagnosis yet, but we are

beginning to think that he has . We are watching him each bout

and I am supposed to watch for swollen joints and redness the next

time. He always complains of " my whole body hurts " but not

specifically joint pain. Do you notice specifically joint pain in your

children? I appreciate the input.

Tricia

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Out of curiousity - does she have a 504 plan because of her HIDS?

Does anyone elses child respond to heat like this here? I haven't

really thought about it - but it's really HOT down here . . . like

107 daily with bad ozone . . . I hate this. But anyways - Aidan

started fevering last summer - but I am wondering now if the

fevering is worse in summer months . .. hmm.

Hannah

>

> Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete

break

> in fevers. She does however still have all of the other

symptoms.

> Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her.

We

> were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which

seems

> to be helping.

>

> She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well.

> Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees

> out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah

this

> is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how

> everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's

> symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well

and

> she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes

> extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

> teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made

her

> start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided

if

> they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe

this

> taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again

tomarrow

> after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they

over

> reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there

to

> continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital.

>

> Well thanks for letting me vent!

>

> Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> ville, TN

>

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I've wondered this as well. Some autoimmune disorders

such as Lupus are aggrivated by hot weather, which

makes me ponder the question " Is an autoimmune

or inflamitory disorder? " My daughter's episodes

started coming much closer together at the end of May,

just about when it started warming up here in

California.

Food for thought.

mom to morgan (5) and audrey (3 )

--- hannahls73 <hannahlsmith@...> wrote:

> Out of curiousity - does she have a 504 plan because

> of her HIDS?

> Does anyone elses child respond to heat like this

> here? I haven't

> really thought about it - but it's really HOT down

> here . . . like

> 107 daily with bad ozone . . . I hate this. But

> anyways - Aidan

> started fevering last summer - but I am wondering

> now if the

> fevering is worse in summer months . .. hmm.

>

> Hannah

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had

> a complete

> break

> > in fevers. She does however still have all of the

> other

> symptoms.

> > Her joint pain and swelling being the most

> significant for her.

> We

> > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a

> NSAID which

> seems

> > to be helping.

> >

> > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today

> has done well.

> > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work.

> It was 95 degrees

> > out today and they took the children out for

> recess for Hannah

> this

> > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan.

> I don't know how

> > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will

> bring on Hannah's

> > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't

> sweat very well

> and

> > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell

> and she becomes

> > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened

> today and the

> > teachers started to panic a little which scared

> Hannah and made

> her

> > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy

> with the whole

> > situation. Of course the whole situation could

> have been avoided

> if

> > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I

> think maybe

> this

> > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to

> try it again

> tomarrow

> > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I

> am glad they

> over

> > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had

> left Hannah there

> to

> > continue to play in the heat we probably would be

> at the hospital.

> >

> > Well thanks for letting me vent!

> >

> > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical

> HIDS)

> > ville, TN

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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> Hi Carey

I have a question for you. You have that Hannah's diagnosis is " clinical HIDS " .

Can you tell me how she got the diagnosis of clinical HIDS. Are her IgD levels

normal? I got 's IgD levels back (well the Dr did) and I was told they

were fine. But everything I have read so far she fits more into HIDS than the

others. Just thought I would ask.

Thanks

Lori

> From: " Carey " <app_37190@...>

> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 10:03:30 EDT

>

> Subject: RE: Singulair

>

> Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete break

> in fevers. She does however still have all of the other symptoms.

> Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. We

> were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which seems

> to be helping.

>

> She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well.

> Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees

> out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah this

> is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how

> everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's

> symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well and

> she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes

> extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

> teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made her

> start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided if

> they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe this

> taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again tomarrow

> after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they over

> reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there to

> continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital.

>

> Well thanks for letting me vent!

>

> Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> ville, TN

>

>

>

>

>

>

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My son has been on Singulair for his asthma for a year and half now,

and he has had absolutely no change in his fevers. While it doesn't

seem to affect HIS fevers, hopefully it will work for someone else.

>

> Here's a new question for everybody:

> All of the data suggests that is an immune

> system regulatory disorder. There is a relatively new

> class of immune system regulatory drugs known as

> leukotriene modifiers. The one most commonly used in

> children is singulair. It appears to be an extremely

> safe medication. Right now it is used mainly for

> asthma but there are reports of success with

> everything from chronic sinusitis to inflammatory

> bowel disease. Has anyone tried this medication or

> heard of it being used for S? Thanks

> Dr. G

>

> __________________________________________________

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Hi Carey and Lori,

Ditto for us with the normal IgD levels, though Lily only had her IgD

levels checked one time, three years ago.

We are pursuing much more testing this October with her

Rheumatologist. The HIDS descriptions and triggers are spot-on what

we experience w/Lily's episodes. I will post what happens.

How frustrating about the heat situation, especially since you had

been so conscientious.

(Lily, 6) Seattle

On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, <slsjasrodgers@...>

<slsjasrodgers@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi Carey

> I have a question for you. You have that Hannah's diagnosis is

> " clinical HIDS " . Can you tell me how she got the diagnosis of

> clinical HIDS. Are her IgD levels normal? I got 's IgD

> levels back (well the Dr did) and I was told they were fine. But

> everything I have read so far she fits more into HIDS than the

> others. Just thought I would ask.

> Thanks

> Lori

>

> > From: " Carey " <app_37190@...>

> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 10:03:30 EDT

> >

> > Subject: RE: Singulair

> >

> > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete break

> > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other symptoms.

> > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her. We

> > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which seems

> > to be helping.

> >

> > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well.

> > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95 degrees

> > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah this

> > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know how

> > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's

> > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well and

> > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes

> > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

> > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made her

> > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided if

> > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe this

> > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again tomarrow

> > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they over

> > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there to

> > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital.

> >

> > Well thanks for letting me vent!

> >

> > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> > ville, TN

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hannah

Yes she has a 504 plan because of the HIDS. Where we live she can

only miss a certain number of days. Because we have to travel to NIH

every 3 months we know she will easily reach that number. She also

has this plan because of her symptoms there will be some days that

she will just not be able to participate like the other children and

the plan protects her from falling through the cracks so to speak.

Her doctor wrote the school system explaining about her fevers not

being contagious and that I was a responsible parent that could tell

the difference and that Hannah may miss days because of her illness

and they should not expect a doctors note every time. It may all of

us including the school feel better about the situation. I don't

know if any other children react to heat like she does but I would be

interested to know.

Carey mom to Hannah (4yrs old clinical HIDS)

ville, TN

> >

> > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete

> break

> > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other

> symptoms.

> > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her.

> We

> > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which

> seems

> > to be helping.

> >

> > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well.

> > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95

degrees

> > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah

> this

> > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know

how

> > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's

> > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well

> and

> > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes

> > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

> > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made

> her

> > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided

> if

> > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe

> this

> > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again

> tomarrow

> > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they

> over

> > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there

> to

> > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital.

> >

> > Well thanks for letting me vent!

> >

> > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> > ville, TN

> >

>

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Lori

Although Hannah's DNA tested negative for HIDS she has all the

classic symptoms and responds to the medication for HIDS. She has

been on Colchicine, Oral Pred and none really helped but the

Singulair really has. Since she has all the classic symptoms and

responds to the medicine NIH has her labeled as Clinical HIDS. Of

course, she also has some TRAPS symptoms as well. Her IgD levels are

normal.

Carey

>

>

> > Hi Carey

> I have a question for you. You have that Hannah's diagnosis

is " clinical HIDS " . Can you tell me how she got the diagnosis of

clinical HIDS. Are her IgD levels normal? I got 's IgD levels

back (well the Dr did) and I was told they were fine. But everything

I have read so far she fits more into HIDS than the others. Just

thought I would ask.

> Thanks

> Lori

>

>

> > From: " Carey " <app_37190@...>

> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 10:03:30 EDT

> >

> > Subject: RE: Singulair

> >

> > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete

break

> > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other

symptoms.

> > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her.

We

> > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which

seems

> > to be helping.

> >

> > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well.

> > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95

degrees

> > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah

this

> > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know

how

> > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's

> > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well

and

> > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes

> > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

> > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made

her

> > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided

if

> > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe

this

> > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again

tomarrow

> > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they

over

> > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there

to

> > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital.

> >

> > Well thanks for letting me vent!

> >

> > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> > ville, TN

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> That is very interesting. I am hoping to get into NIH soon. I would

be anxious to hear what they have to say. As far as Sam and the heat, I have

been keeping her out of it for the most part. I have been a little afraid of

what might happen. We go to the beach next week so I will be on the watch - good

luck.

Lori

> From: " Carey " <app_37190@...>

> Date: 2006/08/18 Fri PM 07:59:57 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: Singulair

>

> Lori

>

> Although Hannah's DNA tested negative for HIDS she has all the

> classic symptoms and responds to the medication for HIDS. She has

> been on Colchicine, Oral Pred and none really helped but the

> Singulair really has. Since she has all the classic symptoms and

> responds to the medicine NIH has her labeled as Clinical HIDS. Of

> course, she also has some TRAPS symptoms as well. Her IgD levels are

> normal.

>

> Carey

>

>

> >

> >

> > > Hi Carey

> > I have a question for you. You have that Hannah's diagnosis

> is " clinical HIDS " . Can you tell me how she got the diagnosis of

> clinical HIDS. Are her IgD levels normal? I got 's IgD levels

> back (well the Dr did) and I was told they were fine. But everything

> I have read so far she fits more into HIDS than the others. Just

> thought I would ask.

> > Thanks

> > Lori

> >

> >

> > > From: " Carey " <app_37190@...>

> > > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 10:03:30 EDT

> > >

> > > Subject: RE: Singulair

> > >

> > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete

> break

> > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other

> symptoms.

> > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her.

> We

> > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which

> seems

> > > to be helping.

> > >

> > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well.

> > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95

> degrees

> > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah

> this

> > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know

> how

> > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's

> > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well

> and

> > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes

> > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

> > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made

> her

> > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided

> if

> > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe

> this

> > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again

> tomarrow

> > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they

> over

> > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there

> to

> > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital.

> > >

> > > Well thanks for letting me vent!

> > >

> > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> > > ville, TN

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I just noticed today really about Sami and the heat. She came down with this

last October, and today we went to the fair and she only lasted 3 hours. The

last year we lasted all day and it was hotter than today. It was only in the

high 80's. I let the school know to watch her with the heat during an episode,

but now I need to let them know that they need to watch her in the heat even

when there isn't an episode going on.

Trish

Carey <app_37190@...> wrote:

Hannah

Yes she has a 504 plan because of the HIDS. Where we live she can

only miss a certain number of days. Because we have to travel to NIH

every 3 months we know she will easily reach that number. She also

has this plan because of her symptoms there will be some days that

she will just not be able to participate like the other children and

the plan protects her from falling through the cracks so to speak.

Her doctor wrote the school system explaining about her fevers not

being contagious and that I was a responsible parent that could tell

the difference and that Hannah may miss days because of her illness

and they should not expect a doctors note every time. It may all of

us including the school feel better about the situation. I don't

know if any other children react to heat like she does but I would be

interested to know.

Carey mom to Hannah (4yrs old clinical HIDS)

ville, TN

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> > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete

> break

> > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other

> symptoms.

> > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for her.

> We

> > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which

> seems

> > to be helping.

> >

> > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done well.

> > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95

degrees

> > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah

> this

> > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know

how

> > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on Hannah's

> > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very well

> and

> > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she becomes

> > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

> > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and made

> her

> > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been avoided

> if

> > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe

> this

> > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again

> tomarrow

> > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad they

> over

> > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah there

> to

> > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the hospital.

> >

> > Well thanks for letting me vent!

> >

> > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> > ville, TN

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Well it's good that your Doctor and your school system are working

so well together (even if your school did make a mistake) - I teach

second grade (but this is only my second year) and I haven't seen

any kids come through with this . . . but I was curious . . . I

don't know if the heat is hurting Aidan - although I tend to think

not - because it's hot down here most of the year (or so it seems

right now) and I haven't really noticed anything with his fevering -

because he fevers during the cold months as well. But this last

little cycle of fevers were only 14 days apart - for the first time

ever and we've really hit the dog days of summer right now.

Thanks for the info . . . I appreciate the knowledge!

Hannah

> > >

> > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete

> > break

> > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other

> > symptoms.

> > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for

her.

> > We

> > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which

> > seems

> > > to be helping.

> > >

> > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done

well.

> > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95

> degrees

> > > out today and they took the children out for recess for Hannah

> > this

> > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't know

> how

> > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on

Hannah's

> > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very

well

> > and

> > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she

becomes

> > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and the

> > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and

made

> > her

> > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been

avoided

> > if

> > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think maybe

> > this

> > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again

> > tomarrow

> > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad

they

> > over

> > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah

there

> > to

> > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the

hospital.

> > >

> > > Well thanks for letting me vent!

> > >

> > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> > > ville, TN

> > >

> >

>

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Apparently most kids actually do better in the summer atleast thats

what the doctors told me. They find it curious that Hannah's

actually gets worse in the summer and fall then eases in the winter.

So I don't know. I guess everyone is different and they all have

different triggers. Low pressure systems usually make her feel bad

too. Her legs always start hurting when one is moving in. She is

better than any weather person LOL. One of Hannah's biggest triggers

is the weather. It took a while for me to figure some of that out

but I started noticing it and would write in her fever journals the

weather that day and lo and behold there was a pattern. Heat is a

very obvious one for her. The symptoms are very noticible very

quickly. Even as an infant Hannah could not tolerate being swadled in

blankets or wearing onsies under her clothes during the winter. It

would drive her grandparents crazy. But she would turn bright red

and scream until you striped her down or removed the blankets. Oddly

enough my brother is the same way. His house is always as cold as a

meat locker even in the winter, his poor wife and kids are always

complaining about the cold. He also has a lot of the same symptoms

as Hannah and the weather effects him too.

I just pray someday all of those brilliant doctors at NIH will figure

all of it out and help all of our children. They certainly are

trying their best and they have helped Hannah when no one else

could. I thank God everyday that he led us to NIH.

Carey

> > > >

> > > > Hannah was started on Singulair in May and has had a complete

> > > break

> > > > in fevers. She does however still have all of the other

> > > symptoms.

> > > > Her joint pain and swelling being the most significant for

> her.

> > > We

> > > > were at NIH August 1st and that have put her on a NSAID which

> > > seems

> > > > to be helping.

> > > >

> > > > She started school (Pre-K) Friday and until today has done

> well.

> > > > Today the teacher called me in a panic at work. It was 95

> > degrees

> > > > out today and they took the children out for recess for

Hannah

> > > this

> > > > is a bad idea. One we covered in her 504 plan. I don't

know

> > how

> > > > everyone elses child is in the heat but it will bring on

> Hannah's

> > > > symptoms in a matter of minutes. Hannah doesn't sweat very

> well

> > > and

> > > > she will turn bright red and her eyes will swell and she

> becomes

> > > > extremely weak and fatigued. Well that happened today and

the

> > > > teachers started to panic a little which scared Hannah and

> made

> > > her

> > > > start crying. Needless to say I was not happy with the whole

> > > > situation. Of course the whole situation could have been

> avoided

> > > if

> > > > they had followed the plan and kept her inside. I think

maybe

> > > this

> > > > taught them a valuable lesson. We are going to try it again

> > > tomarrow

> > > > after I have a talk with the teachers. Although I am glad

> they

> > > over

> > > > reacted instead of under reacted. If they had left Hannah

> there

> > > to

> > > > continue to play in the heat we probably would be at the

> hospital.

> > > >

> > > > Well thanks for letting me vent!

> > > >

> > > > Carey mom to Hannah Rose (4 years old Clinical HIDS)

> > > > ville, TN

> > > >

> > >

> >

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In a message dated 8/18/2006 10:11:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

app_37190@... writes:

Apparently most kids actually do better in the summer atleast thats

what the doctors told me.

Oh boy--I am hoping that isn't true. We started Nicky on Cimetidine July

22nd--after his last fever--and he hasn't fevered since. I am hoping it is the

drug that is working and not that fact that it is summer. We start school just

after Labor Day and I am hoping we have a better year this year .

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depends if it truely is or not

Some kids truely do grow out of it .. as you can see many a kid here does better

over the summer. Kiara has broken the last 2 summers from may til october.. but

episodes without a fever.

NIH just stuck her on singular .. dont know if it will work or not.

kiara 6

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In a message dated 8/18/2006 10:11:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

app_37190@... writes:

Apparently most kids actually do better in the summer atleast thats

what the doctors told me.

Oh boy--I am hoping that isn't true. We started Nicky on Cimetidine July

22nd--after his last fever--and he hasn't fevered since. I am hoping it is the

drug that is working and not that fact that it is summer. We start school just

after Labor Day and I am hoping we have a better year this year .

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> We have not seen a single cold yet in our , she has been on it for two

months now. Dont' know if that helps or not. Although none of our other kids

have been sick either. I may have a different story in November. :)

Lori Rodgers

mom to four daughters including (2) ?PFS

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> Hi

My daughters pediatric rheumatologist has prescribed it on occasion for periodic

fever syndromes but I have been told that it seems to have the best affect on

those with HIDS or clinical HIDS but some others have had some progress made

with its use as well. I believe it is a new treatment. I attended the Periodic

Fever Disorder conference held at Hershey Medical Center in September of this

year and I know Dr. Morton from the Clinic for Special Children talked about his

success with its use in HIDS. He has doen much research and genetic studies,

primarily in Amish and Mennonite families and he has noted some great success

with Singulair with HIDS. All I know is it works for my daughter and I have not

seen any side effects at this time. We are still going through the genetic

testing so her disorder is still unknown but presents a little more like a HIDS

than " typical " . Your doctor could speak to Dr. Groh at Hershey Medical

Center or Dr Morton at the Clinic for Special Children in Strasburg PA. I do

believe that NIH is also prescribing this but I cannot say that first hand. Good

luck

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My son 2.6 years old is taking Singulair but not really for Pfapa but for

allergies.His ped did mention it may help curb his fevers, without really given

a reason how or why. He had a T & A in Feb but fevered for 2 months, then once

starting Singulair he hasn't fevered since. Only minor symptoms here and there.

hannahlsmith73 <hlsmith73@...> wrote: Is anyone elses child

taking Singulair for or whatever? Have you

noticed any change in your child's fevers?

Hannah

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Our child started Singulair on September 1, 2006 for

. Since that time, he has had the following

intervals between fevers -

16 Weeks

3 Weeks*

10 Weeks

4 Weeks*

11 Weeks and Counting (as of today, 7/16/07)!!

*In these intervals, we realized that we had skipped

one or more doses of Singulair and we are

hypothesizing that perhaps regular dosing of the

Singulair is CRITICAL and that a missed dose at just

the right time can allow a fever to break through. As

with much with - just hypothesis, not nearly

enough data to draw a scientific conclusion.

Our son's immunologist is taking a hard look at

Singulair and did a survey with this group and has

been looking to publish if she can. We still give

Prednisone when he does have a fever since the

Singulair has spaced them so far apart.

Happy to talk further if you like.

Newlon, Ph.D.

Senior Scientist

Sensory & Products Research Testing

Oral and Personal Health Care

The Procter and Gamble Company

Cincinnati, OH

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