Juicing

May 8, 2001

In a message dated 05/08/2001 1:55:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ketan@... writes:

> Does anyone have any good juicing recipes for treating Cancer. Are

> there any good websites that offer any good points of reference.

Vegetable Juicing

A major component of Gerson therapy is fresh-pressed green-leaf

juices containing ROMAINE LETTUCE, WATERCRESS, ESCAROLE, ENDIVE,

RED CABBAGE, beet tops (young inner leaves), swiss chard &

spinach (Caution: chard, beet greens, & spinach are extremely

high in oxalic acid, which can potentially contribute to kidney

stones & other health problems, so I would juice them only in

moderation).

Carrot and beet juice carrots have powerful anticancer

effects. However, there's a controversy over their use because of

their high sugar content and high glycemic index; I personally

would not use them if I had cancer.

Fruit Juicing-- Gerson therapy also includes the drinking of

fresh-pressed (green) APPLE (20oz/day) and ORANGE (8oz/day) juice

(note: Tangeretin, bioflavanoid in oranges, may interfere

w/tamoxifen). I might also drink some fresh-pressed pink

grapefruit and a little bit of fresh-pressed lemon or lime juice.

Avoid fruits with a high-glycemic index.

Juice FASTS can be quite effective but should be done ONLY

under the guidance and supervision of a health professional

w/expertise in juice fasting for cancer patients; For more info,

see Frâ€žhm, J. (2000). _A Cancer Battle Plan: Sourcebook_.

Tarcher/Putnam. pp. 127-142

CAUTIONS: fresh-pressed juice strongly detoxifies the body, but

this can result in an accumulation of toxins in the liver.

Accordingly, if you drink large amounts of fresh-pressed juice,

it is critical to also DETOXIFY THE LIVER. Coffee enemas are a

powerful liver detox method used by many alt. cancer

practitioners, but I would consult a health practitioner before

using them. Milk thistle, other foods & herbs, & certain

homeopathic remedies also help flush/detoxify the liver, but I

don't know if they're sufficient for someone drinking large

amounts of fresh-pressed juice. Beet juice also detoxes the liver

and has many anticancer properties but also has a lot of sugar

and a very-high-glycemic index.

According to , M.D., LEUKEMIA, LYMPHOMA,

MYELOMA, and MELANOMA patients are rather consistently

parasympathetic-dominant metabolic types. It's my understanding

that it's best for strong " parasympathetics " to minimize citrus

fruit, green leafy vegetables, & other highly-alkalinizing foods,

as well as high-sugar/high-glycemic foods (e.g., carrot & beet

juice). Ironically, Gerson therapy's most effective w/melanoma &

lymphoma.

JUICERS

From what I have read, the Norwalk (grinder-press-type; takes a

lot of time to clean) (about $2000), K & K (grinder-press-type;

takes a lot of time to clean), and Green Power (about $500) are

best. Champion (about $170 and relatively easy to clean) is

probably next best. Angel-Life and Royal are probably 3rd best.

For a used juicer, go to www.gerson.org/patients/usedjuicer.htm.

Masticating juicers (see above) are profoundly better than

centrifugal juicers (e.g., Ruby, Santos Miracle Growth), which

are definitely INadequate. Vita-Mix and other liquefiers

(blenders) are totally inadequate. For more info, see

www.hacres.com/html/juicerstudy.html

www.gerson.org/questions/answer/particularjuicer.htm

www.gerson.org/questions/answer/okjuicerforpatient.htm

www.gerson.org/questions/answer/easierway.htm

www.gerson.org/healing/articles/nl_cnb104.html

Leonard

May 8, 2001

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From: leonardleonard1@...

Date sent: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:24:51 EDT

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Subject: Re: Juicing

> > Does anyone have any good juicing recipes for treating Cancer. Are

> > there any good websites that offer any good points of reference.

> Vegetable Juicing

Hi,

Carrot juice is a component of gerson therapy. The carrotenes in carrots

have an anti cancer effect. Yet cooked tomatoes contain more a powerful

carrotenes (delta carrotene) than carrots (beta carrotene).

Sprouts like broccoli sprouts or mung bean sprouts can be juiced, wheat

grass can be juiced. Paw Paw and whole pineapples (enzymes) can be juiced.

moonbeam

> A major component of Gerson therapy is fresh-pressed green-leaf

> juices containing ROMAINE LETTUCE, WATERCRESS, ESCAROLE, ENDIVE,

> RED CABBAGE, beet tops (young inner leaves), swiss chard &

> spinach (Caution: chard, beet greens, & spinach are extremely

> high in oxalic acid, which can potentially contribute to kidney

> stones & other health problems, so I would juice them only in

> moderation).

> Carrot and beet juice carrots have powerful anticancer

> effects. However, there's a controversy over their use because of

> their high sugar content and high glycemic index; I personally

> would not use them if I had cancer.

>

> Fruit Juicing-- Gerson therapy also includes the drinking of

> fresh-pressed (green) APPLE (20oz/day) and ORANGE (8oz/day) juice

> (note: Tangeretin, bioflavanoid in oranges, may interfere

> w/tamoxifen). I might also drink some fresh-pressed pink

> grapefruit and a little bit of fresh-pressed lemon or lime juice.

> Avoid fruits with a high-glycemic index.

> Juice FASTS can be quite effective but should be done ONLY

> under the guidance and supervision of a health professional

> w/expertise in juice fasting for cancer patients; For more info,

> see Frâ€žhm, J. (2000). _A Cancer Battle Plan: Sourcebook_.

> Tarcher/Putnam. pp. 127-142

>

> CAUTIONS: fresh-pressed juice strongly detoxifies the body, but

> this can result in an accumulation of toxins in the liver.

> Accordingly, if you drink large amounts of fresh-pressed juice,

> it is critical to also DETOXIFY THE LIVER. Coffee enemas are a

> powerful liver detox method used by many alt. cancer

> practitioners, but I would consult a health practitioner before

> using them. Milk thistle, other foods & herbs, & certain

> homeopathic remedies also help flush/detoxify the liver, but I

> don't know if they're sufficient for someone drinking large

> amounts of fresh-pressed juice. Beet juice also detoxes the liver

> and has many anticancer properties but also has a lot of sugar

> and a very-high-glycemic index.

> According to , M.D., LEUKEMIA, LYMPHOMA,

> MYELOMA, and MELANOMA patients are rather consistently

> parasympathetic-dominant metabolic types. It's my understanding

> that it's best for strong " parasympathetics " to minimize citrus

> fruit, green leafy vegetables, & other highly-alkalinizing foods,

> as well as high-sugar/high-glycemic foods (e.g., carrot & beet

> juice). Ironically, Gerson therapy's most effective w/melanoma &

> lymphoma.

>

> JUICERS

>

> >From what I have read, the Norwalk (grinder-press-type; takes a

> lot of time to clean) (about $2000), K & K (grinder-press-type;

> takes a lot of time to clean), and Green Power (about $500) are

> best. Champion (about $170 and relatively easy to clean) is

> probably next best. Angel-Life and Royal are probably 3rd best.

> For a used juicer, go to www.gerson.org/patients/usedjuicer.htm.

> Masticating juicers (see above) are profoundly better than

> centrifugal juicers (e.g., Ruby, Santos Miracle Growth), which

> are definitely INadequate. Vita-Mix and other liquefiers

> (blenders) are totally inadequate. For more info, see

> www.hacres.com/html/juicerstudy.html

> www.gerson.org/questions/answer/particularjuicer.htm

> www.gerson.org/questions/answer/okjuicerforpatient.htm

> www.gerson.org/questions/answer/easierway.htm

> www.gerson.org/healing/articles/nl_cnb104.html

>

> Leonard

>

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May 9, 2001

Yes, I use broccoli, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, carrots, apples,

kiwi and oranges.

May 9, 2001

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From: mindbrain@...

Date sent: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:31:34 EDT

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Subject: Re: Juicing

> Yes, I use broccoli, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, carrots,

> apples, kiwi and oranges.

Hi ,

wheat grass juice contains B17 and chlorophyl, paw paw juice

contains proteolytic enzymes to remove the cancer protein coating, as does

fresh pinepple juiced. Broccoli sprouts are 30 times better than broccoli.

moonbeam

May 10, 2001

moonbeam ....what and where would you get paw paws to juice. I've heard of

them in a kids song " picking up paw paws " but haven't a clue what they are??

Re: Juicing

>

> > Yes, I use broccoli, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, carrots,

> > apples, kiwi and oranges.

>

> Hi ,

> wheat grass juice contains B17 and chlorophyl, paw paw

juice

> contains proteolytic enzymes to remove the cancer protein coating, as does

> fresh pinepple juiced. Broccoli sprouts are 30 times better than broccoli.

>

> moonbeam

>

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May 10, 2001

For Judy......paw paws come from the paw-paw tree. Buy a tree.....you'll only

have to wait years for it to produce. Check with your local nursery.....and ask

around, perhaps someone has a tree

they'll let you have the paw-paws from. I tasted one once....it's similar to

papaya. Maybe papaya would be a good substitute. Paw-paws must not be picked

off the tree, but rather off the

ground after the tree has dropped them. That makes sure they're really ripe.

Ellen

JudyK wrote:

> moonbeam ....what and where would you get paw paws to juice. I've heard of

> them in a kids song " picking up paw paws " but haven't a clue what they are??

> Re: Juicing

> >

> > > Yes, I use broccoli, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, carrots,

> > > apples, kiwi and oranges.

> >

> > Hi ,

> > wheat grass juice contains B17 and chlorophyl, paw paw

> juice

> > contains proteolytic enzymes to remove the cancer protein coating, as does

> > fresh pinepple juiced. Broccoli sprouts are 30 times better than broccoli.

> >

> > moonbeam

> >

> > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

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May 10, 2001

From: " JudyK " <uno-man@...>

Date sent: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:20:18 -0400

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: Juicing

> moonbeam ....what and where would you get paw paws to juice. I've heard of

> them in a kids song " picking up paw paws " but haven't a clue what they

> are?? Re: Juicing

Hi,

In case like this it might be better to simply take serrapeptase and

bromelain tabletes to get the enzymes, that way at least you know you are

getting the enzymes to remove the protein coat from the cancer.

Can you buy fresh pinepples or papaya at the fruit shop? Canned is no good

as canned things are heat treated killing the enzymes.

moonbeam

May 10, 2001

In a message dated 5/10/01 3:39:56 AM Central Daylight Time, moonbeam@... writes:

,

wheat grass juice contains B17 and chlorophyl, paw paw juice contains proteolytic enzymes to remove the cancer protein coating,

What is paw paw juice?

What is B17 used for in your body?

Carolyn

May 11, 2001

Hello, just wanted to tell you that paw paws are papaya. Where I come from,

(South Pacific) pawpaws are papayas.

Good luck.

February 10, 2004

From: <szukidavis@...>

> What are the best items to juice with to help move from acid to alkaline?

I think the best things to juice (which happen to be alkalinizing) are asparagus

and beets.

I believe the most alkalinizing things to juice are celery, grapefruit, and

leafy greens--spinach, watercress, kale, collards, dandelion, beet tops (young

inner leaves), and Swiss chard .

February 10, 2004

> From: <szukidavis@a...>

> > What are the best items to juice with to help move from acid to

alkaline?

> I think the best things to juice (which happen to be alkalinizing)

are asparagus

> and beets.

> I believe the most alkalinizing things to juice are celery,

grapefruit, and

> leafy greens--spinach, watercress, kale, collards, dandelion, beet

tops (young

> inner leaves), and Swiss chard .

celantro helps rid the heavy metals from brain and other major

organs. it apparently moves them to the surface structures. then a

bath with clay pellets will draw the heavy metals out of the surface

structures. so adding it to all juicing is a benifit.

I have red that juicing is actually not good. why? because of the

eletromagnetic field created by the motor. apparently pressing your

fruits and veggies is the way to go. does anyone know if this is

true? thank you.

February 10, 2004

In a message dated 2/10/04 9:52:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,

leonardleonard1@... writes:

> > What are the best items to juice with to help move from acid to alkaline?

> I think the best things to juice (which happen to be alkalinizing) are

> asparagus

> and beets.

> I believe the most alkalinizing things to juice are celery, grapefruit, and

> leafy greens--spinach, watercress, kale, collards, dandelion, beet tops

> (young

> inner leaves), and Swiss chard .

>

> What about carrots and apples? I already do celery. I find that leafy

> veggies don't output much juice. Are grapefruit better than lemons?

Thanks for the advice.

February 10, 2004

In a message dated 2/10/04 10:46:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jzmurchak@... writes:

> I have red that juicing is actually not good. why? because of the

> eletromagnetic field created by the motor. apparently pressing your

> fruits and veggies is the way to go. does anyone know if this is

> true? thank you.

>

I have heard something like that and that there is one machine that doesn't

supposed produce EMFs but I think that the benefits of juicing far outweigh it.

February 10, 2004

In a message dated 2/10/04 4:48:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jzmurchak@... writes:

> Sorry to be such a downer but I am trying and the more I

> look around the more I see or learn just how far all the degenaration

> has gone. Milk is not milk, vitamins and supplements in pill form are

> all contaminated. I just bought vits and supplements to find out

> after purchase that they are all toxic. Then I figured I'll eat allot

> of fruits and veggies and they turn out to be irradiated to all hell.

> I just don't know what to do anymore. I've spent all my time learning

> more and more bad stuff. I even found an article that states that

> smoking cigarettes cures cancer. :-)

>

Was the author of that article Philip ? Marlboro Man?

There is a lady who is very schooled in which vitamins etc are still OK. It

is Ruth Sackman who runs Alternative Cancer Therapies in Manhattan. She

constantly monitors which chickens are acceptable, which nutrients are

acceptable

etc. A good person to touch base with. Mostly into the Gerson approach.

February 10, 2004

> In a message dated 2/10/04 10:46:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> jzmurchak@y... writes:

>

> > I have red that juicing is actually not good. why? because of the

> > eletromagnetic field created by the motor. apparently pressing

your

> > fruits and veggies is the way to go. does anyone know if this is

> > true? thank you.

> >

>

> I have heard something like that and that there is one machine that

doesn't

> supposed produce EMFs but I think that the benefits of juicing far

outweigh it.

>

Ok, if you find or come accross the name of this juicer I would like

to have it. It probably has a sheild around the motor.

Another one of my problems here in Montreal is that all fruits,

veggies, herbs and spices are irradiated. Plus the grocers don't tell

you. The irradiation apparently damages anything good we get from our

food. It's really hard to start healthy eating habbits when you dig,

because it seems like all our air, food and water is contaminated

with one toxic substance or another. I'm a little discoouraged and

right now I'm almost at the point of thinking that dying is not such

a bad thing. Sorry to be such a downer but I am trying and the more I

look around the more I see or learn just how far all the degenaration

has gone. Milk is not milk, vitamins and supplements in pill form are

all contaminated. I just bought vits and supplements to find out

after purchase that they are all toxic. Then I figured I'll eat allot

of fruits and veggies and they turn out to be irradiated to all hell.

I just don't know what to do anymore. I've spent all my time learning

more and more bad stuff. I even found an article that states that

smoking cigarettes cures cancer. :-)

Regards

>

February 10, 2004

From what little I've read about juicing and juicers, I haven't seen

anything about the EMF making them " good " or " bad " . The problem, if it's

real..., has to do with the heat generated by the spinning blades by the

ones that juice by that mechanism (like my Juiceman Jr.). The masticating

ones do not have this " heat " from the friction of the blades contacting the

fruit or vegetable.

The heat is said to affect the enzymes - I guess altering them somewhat so

that they are not as " good " as they might otherwise be.

The way I look at it, though, is that I'm at least USING my juicer, and it's

SO much better than so many other things I could be drinking that I just

don't feel like worrying myself about it at this point. The masticating ones

may produce more juice and less waste, too...this is a good point about

them. But the difference in cost is so great, I feel like I would have to

juice a lake full of juice to break even!

So this is how I've justified what I'm doing...maybe it will help others.

(The EMF thing sounds like a " long stretch " to me - just my opinion.... I

don't think we know enough about such fields to really know if they are bad

for us, or, perhaps, beneficial to us. Why do these fields have to be " bad " ?

It seems like we are taking them that way almost automatically. Fields

produces by magnetic devices (pulsed magnetic fields...PMF) have been

demonstrated to be good in many ways. So have millimeter waves. There is a

LOT of scientific evidence out there to support this. Now I'm not saying I

would make a pillow out of a power line transformer, but I would say I feel

quite comfortable with the fields produced by a juicer motor. I'm sure there

are those who will disagree, but that's where I'm at for now...)

Bob

Re: Re: JUICING

> In a message dated 2/10/04 10:46:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> jzmurchak@... writes:

>

> > I have red that juicing is actually not good. why? because of the

> > eletromagnetic field created by the motor. apparently pressing your

> > fruits and veggies is the way to go. does anyone know if this is

> > true? thank you.

> >

>

> I have heard something like that and that there is one machine that

doesn't

> supposed produce EMFs but I think that the benefits of juicing far

outweigh it.

>

May 5, 2011

Just one note -- while juicing is certainly healthy, for some who are sensitive to salicylates and haven’t been desensitized to aspirin, many fruits and vegetables can aggravate symptoms. See list: http://www.zipworld.com.au/~ataraxy/Salicylates_list.html. There are many other lists on the web. Not everyone has this sensitivity, but some of us pre-desensitization have very strong reactions, and would have to be very careful what they juiced.On May 5, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Gwendolyn Rafter wrote:

Rhonda, It works well. I have a lot of weight to lose. Since Sunday, I feel so much better. I have more energy, my knees do not hurt and I just feel overall better. I have had issues with my ankles and feet swelling but since I started juicing, they do not swell. Yesterday I cheated and ate some fried chicken wings and some ice cream and last night my ankles started to swell. To day I have eaten wisely and this morning my husband made carrot, spinach, apple and lemon juice. It was so refreshing. Try to get the book Fresh Vegetable and Fruit juices by Dr. N . He began juicing when he had been given a terrible diagnosis and he lived to be 109. 10 oz of carrot juice and 6 oz of spinach juice will cure just about all that ails you. I am trying to get off some of my meds for high blood pressure. Try it. It really helps.Gwendolyn

RafterFrom: R <myigloo2@...>Subject: Re: What's working for me- Juicingsamters Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 10:09 AM

Hi Gwendolyn,

I was excited to see your post regarding juicing. In the last few days I have been looking into juicing just because of the natural health benefits and never thought of it as a way to deal with Samter's.

While I have been having tremendous luck since I have been off the aspirin. I am interested in hearing how you progress with this. I have been reviewing juicers online, gathering recipes of drinks etc...

Am happy to hear this is working for you and will be looking for your updates.

Rhonda

>

> I had as well some good experience with fresh juicing but have some doubts about

> Juice Plus being 'exactly like juicing' - referring to the below Wikipedia

> article:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juice_Plus

>

> ________________________________

> Von: "samsmom6602@..." <samsmom6602@...>

> An: samters

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, den 5. Mai 2011, 0:16:23 Uhr

> Betreff: Re: What's working for me- Juicing

>

> Hi Gwendolyn,

>

> I am so glad juicing is working for you. It is good and healthy for your whole

> body. I am big into nutrition. I have found when I eat a lot of greens and stay

> away from dairy especially cheese seems to really bother my sinuses I feel so

> much better. I also use Qvar asthma inhaler, but I spay it in my nose twice a

> day. Since I started the diet and Qvar I always have my sense of smell and never

> have any asthma problems. For many many years I had no sense of smell and lived

> on high doses of prednisone. I also use Juice Plus which is exactly like juicing

> its 17 RAW fruits and veggies in a capsule or chewable. I take B-12, Fish Oil,

> and when I remember probiotic.

>

> Again, I am so glad that its working for you.

>

> Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®

> ________________________________

>

> From: "Gwendolyn" <gwen5052@...>

> Sender: samters

> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:06:54 -0000

> <samters >

> Replysamters

> Subject: What's working for me- Juicing

>

> Hello Samters friends,

> Well, my newest attempt to handle this dreaded disease has been juicing. Since

> Sunday, I have been juicing 2-3 times a day. I began the morning with carrots,

> apples and a lemon that has been peeled and the white skin removed. I felt

> better the first day but the 2nd day, I felt wonderful. Now only has it had a

> positive effect on my sinus but other areas of my body are working better too.

> Like my knees and the swelling in my ankles and feet. I am no longer retaining a

> lot of water. Today my husband juiced carrots, celery, spinach and apples. I did

> not taste the lemon so I will do that later in the day. So far so good. I suffer

> with high blood pressure and I take 3 meds for it. I am anxious to stop paying

> so much for so many meds. I will keep you posted on my outcome.

>

May 6, 2011

Thanks for the lists. I will certainly look more into it. So far I am doing good with the carrot that is moderate, spinach, red delicious apples and a few strawberries sometimes. I cannot emphasize enough how much better I feel. I am excited just to not have as much swelling in my ankles and feet. A large problem for me is not being able to afford my Advair right now. Until I pay my $3000 deductible I have to pay the $279 each month for it. I hope the juice can help me to get some of the weight off so I can not depend on the Advair.From: R <myigloo2@...>Subject: Re: What's working for me- Juicingsamters Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 10:09 AM