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April 3, 2007

Viv - Did you happen to have a Rhogham shot when you were pregnant? I am finding more moms with kids with speech delays (only) who had a Rhogham shot. just wonderingRoxviv_june_61 <Viv_June_61@...> wrote: Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy tonight!! Not so

upset like before. I know that and I need to do a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know about this? I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born. I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not sure if I should still do chelation. Thank you all of you for sending me to Generation rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury poisoning too just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this. But not right now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if there is a group for kids with speech delay and doing chelation? Viv

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April 3, 2007

Rox

No, I did not have Rhogham. We did not have flu shots either, not

not me. And I have no silver fillings. So maybe it is not a

mercury problem with .

Thanks, Viv.

Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican.

> did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he is

> NOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. I

> did appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happy

> tonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to do

> a lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for us

> to have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone know

> about this?

>

> I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctor

> actually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that there

> was no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born.

> I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am not

> sure if I should still do chelation. Thank you all of you for sending

> me to Generation rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercury

> poisoning too just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this.

> But not right now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know if

> there is a group for kids with speech delay and doing chelation?

> Viv

>

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April 3, 2007

If the course you are taking is the one offerred through the Hanen Centre, it should be good ( http://www.hanen.org/Hanen2002/pages/Parents/HanenProgramsForParents/HanenProgramsForParents.htm ). My youngest son benefitted from their approach when he attended speech and language therapy sessions provided through the Toronto Preschool Speech and Language Services about 6-7 years ago. How old is your son? If he had any infant hepatitis B vaccines in Canada, the thimerosal-free kind did not become available until cerca 2001. http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/99vol25/25sup/acs7.html (1999 report) http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/02vol28/dr2809ea.html (2002 report) Note these paragraphs from the above link: Therefore, at this time, exposure of Canadian infants in the first 6 months of life to ethylmercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines used in the routine immunization schedule, has been eliminated. This does not mean that all thimerosal-containing vaccines have been eliminated in Canada. A number of other thimerosal-containing vaccines are licensed that are used in special circumstances, that could continue to expose infants < 6 months of age to ethylmercury. These include some single antigen acellular pertussis and conjugate H. influenzae vaccines, diphtheria-tetanus, and diphtheria- tetanus-acellular pertussis combination vaccines, all of which contain thimerosal in a

concentration of 0.01%, and represent an exposure of 25 µg ethylmercury per 0.5 mL dose(11). Thimerosal- containing hepatitis B vaccine continues to be used in some Canadian jurisdictions to protect high risk infants born to chronic hepatitis B infected mothers. Influenza vaccines that are licensed in Canada also contain 0.01% thimerosal but are not recommended or used in infants < 6 months of age because of lack of effectiveness early in life. Aasa viv_june_61 <Viv_June_61@...> wrote: Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican. did really great! And I am so happy, the doctor said that he isNOT autistic. I want to say thanks to all of you who were so kind. Idid appreciate all the e-mails and answers I got. I am so happytonight!! Not so upset like before. I know that and I need to doa lot of work to get him talking properly. The doctor arranged for usto have a course. It is called It takes two to talk. Does anyone knowabout this?I asked about mercury and vaccines. Can you believe that the doctoractually laughed? Then he showed me some stuff that said that therewas no mercury in the shots in Canada since way before was born.I'm not sure about that. Can someone tell me if that is true? I am notsure if I should still do chelation. Thank you all of you for sendingme to

Generation rescue. They said that speech delays are all mercurypoisoning too just like autism. So maybe I should still consider this.But not right now. Because I as soooo relieved. Does anyone know ifthere is a group for kids with speech delay and doing chelation?Viv

April 3, 2007

I am sorry, did you mention what state you live in? could be a

pollution problem.

On 4/2/07, viv_june_61 <Viv_June_61@...> wrote:

> Rox

> No, I did not have Rhogham. We did not have flu shots either, not

> not me. And I have no silver fillings. So maybe it is not a

> mercury problem with .

> Thanks, Viv.

>

> ---

April 3, 2007

" Then he showed me some stuff that said that there was no mercury in

the shots in Canada since way before was born. I'm not sure about

that. Can someone tell me if that is true? "

You have not provided any details about when your son was vaccinated

and where you resided in Canada at the time. Even if you did it is not

clear whether one can say definitively that your son did or did not

receive thimerosal-containing vaccines. It has been shown, however,

that the claim that vaccines in Canada were thimerosal-free are greatly

exaggerated or incorrect. Much of the incorrect information emanates

from Fombonne, a psychiatrist at McGill who has published studies

erroneously claiming that vaccines in Canada were free of thimerosal

after 1996. He has made the same statements under oath.

According to various sources, most recently an excellent investigation

published in a letter by Dr. Ayoub and Ruscitti that

Fombonne's statements and, hence, your physician's laughing dismissals

are incorrect. Ayoub and Ruscitti published some of their findings

recently in a letter to the Editor of Pediatrics (not published there

but published online) entitled, " Fombonne’s errors keep vaccine-PDD

hypothesis alive in Quebec. "

Among Ayoub's and Ruscitti's findings are the following:

Fombonne et al erroneously stated that Thimerosal-exposure after 1996

was “nil” but analysis of numerous Canadian government healthcare

documents suggests otherwise. According to the Public Health Agency of

Canada thirty-three licensed vaccines were still in use as of March

2003. (4) Some Thimerosal-containing vaccines, including those against

hepatitis B, influenza and meningococcus specifically target infants

and early childhood. Since 1994 the majority of 4th grade students

participated in an elective Hepatitis B vaccination program, but the

first Thimerosal-free hepatitis B vaccine was not licensed in Canada

until March 2001, providing more evidence that Fombonne’s study

population was exposed to Thimerosal. (5,6) A fully Hepatitis

B-vaccinated child could have received 37.5 micrograms of mercury or

more by six months of age prior to availability of preservative-free

vaccine and within the study period that Fombonne characterized as

“nil” mercury exposure. In addition, the reconstituted Penta vaccine

available in 1997 still contained 25 micrograms of mercury per dose and

could have resulted in an additional 100 micrograms of cumulative

mercury exposure in children vaccinated at 2, 4 and 6 and 18 months of

age. (7)

Fombonne failed to consider that immunization schedules varied in

Montreal resulting in more mercury exposure in some groups than others.

According to the Protocole d’Immunisation du Québec foreign-born

children and native children less than 7 years old with at least one

parent who has emigrated from areas with a high prevalence of Hepatitis

B (over 100 countries) must receive the Hepatitis B vaccine series. (8)

Meningococcal vaccines, some with Thimerosal, had also been

administered more frequently to these groups. More importantly,

immigrant children without adequate vaccine records are required to

repeat the complete Canadian immunization schedule, further increasing

their cumulative exposures. (9)

Regarding internationally adopted children, Caron, clinical

nurse of the International Health Clinic of Ste. e's children

Hospital, Montreal wrote: " Practically all children present a vaccinal

delay or don't have the same vaccines than here, or vaccines of foreign

countries are more or less reliable, so vaccination has to be

readministered from the beginning.”(10) These children therefore

represent yet another unique subset of the population that could have

been exposed to even larger amounts of Thimerosal during Fombonnes’s

“nil” exposure period.

Fombonne et al claim that the vaccine records of the 180 children with

PDD were not available, but this seems odd since they claim 80% of the

children with PDD had been seen in their own institution. We have

obtained several vaccine records from Quebec parents confirming

Thimerosal exposure after 1996. For example, the son of one of us (MR),

who was adopted from abroad and entered Canada at three months of age,

received over 100 micrograms of mercury between October 1997 and March

1998 by the age of six months. It is likely other children in the

post-1996 birth cohorts also received Thimerosal.

RJK

> On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:26 PM, rjkrakow wrote:

>

> Well today and I had the appointment with the Dev. Pediatrican.