Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Be nice if he had a ref for "intimal fibroplasia and hypertension". The DASH ref ain't it. Neither does it cure HTN. It merely lowers BP a little. You can't say what it isn't until you know what it is. Regards. [ ] Blood Pressure Hi folsk:Also from Dr. Mirkin ............. quite interesting, much of which I was not previously aware of for BP:"WHY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES WITH AGEGabe Mirkin, M.D.Blood pressure often rises with aging. Contrary to what many doctors think, salt, obesity and alcohol have little to do with this rise. High blood pressure is associated with heart attacks, strokes, aging and death. Recent research shows that high blood pressure associated with aging is probably caused by damage to the arteries leading to the kidneys. Obesity, excess salt and alcohol cause reversible high blood pressure. Taking a large amount of salt can cause your body to retain fluid, enlarge blood volume and raise blood pressure temporarily, but blood pressure returns to normal soon afterwards. For most people, taking in a lot of salt does not raise blood pressure. Drinking alcohol raises blood pressure only for a short time. Obesity is associated with a sustained high blood pressure at any age, and is usually reversible with weight loss. Recent research show that damaged kidney arteries, called intimal fibroplasia, are the most likely cause of high blood pressure and that prevention of high blood pressure with aging includes preventing kidney arterial damage by eating plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, beans and nuts, reducing your intake of processed foods and dairy products, exercising and avoiding overweight. See the DASH diet, report #8614.RE . Salt, obesity, and alcohol fail to induce a lasting rise of blood pressure with age, and may be independent of renocortical vasculopathy.Qjm - Monthly Journal of the Association of Physicians, 1999, Vol 92, Iss 10, pp 601-607.Address RE, Louisiana State Univ, Med Ctr, Dept Pathol, 1901 Perdido St, New Orleans,LA 70112 USA"Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Be nice if he had a ref for "intimal fibroplasia and hypertension". The DASH ref ain't it. Neither does it cure HTN. It merely lowers BP a little. You can't say what it isn't until you know what it is. Regards. [ ] Blood Pressure Hi folsk:Also from Dr. Mirkin ............. quite interesting, much of which I was not previously aware of for BP:"WHY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES WITH AGEGabe Mirkin, M.D.Blood pressure often rises with aging. Contrary to what many doctors think, salt, obesity and alcohol have little to do with this rise. High blood pressure is associated with heart attacks, strokes, aging and death. Recent research shows that high blood pressure associated with aging is probably caused by damage to the arteries leading to the kidneys. Obesity, excess salt and alcohol cause reversible high blood pressure. Taking a large amount of salt can cause your body to retain fluid, enlarge blood volume and raise blood pressure temporarily, but blood pressure returns to normal soon afterwards. For most people, taking in a lot of salt does not raise blood pressure. Drinking alcohol raises blood pressure only for a short time. Obesity is associated with a sustained high blood pressure at any age, and is usually reversible with weight loss. Recent research show that damaged kidney arteries, called intimal fibroplasia, are the most likely cause of high blood pressure and that prevention of high blood pressure with aging includes preventing kidney arterial damage by eating plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, beans and nuts, reducing your intake of processed foods and dairy products, exercising and avoiding overweight. See the DASH diet, report #8614.RE . Salt, obesity, and alcohol fail to induce a lasting rise of blood pressure with age, and may be independent of renocortical vasculopathy.Qjm - Monthly Journal of the Association of Physicians, 1999, Vol 92, Iss 10, pp 601-607.Address RE, Louisiana State Univ, Med Ctr, Dept Pathol, 1901 Perdido St, New Orleans,LA 70112 USA"Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi JR: " Hypertensive renovasculopathies and the rise of blood pressure with age in Japan and USA. RE, Ishii T. Department of Pathology, Louisiana State University Medical Center, New Orleans 70112, USA. rtracy@... Arterial intimal fibroplasia in renal interlobular arteries but not arteriolar hyalinization was reported to be proportional to the rise of blood pressure with age in the data from all populations examined so far. New findings from Japan offer further insights into the disparities between the two types of renovasculopathy, both of which are called by the same name, 'arteriolosclerosis'. PAS stained paraffin sections were prepared from specimens obtained at autopsy in Tokyo and New Orleans, emphasizing basal subjects, i.e. those with no cause of death known to be related to hypertension. Severities of fibroplastic vasculopathy, in units of intimal thickness as % of outer diameter, and hyaline vasculopathy, in units of affected arterioles per cm2 of tissue sectional area, were measured morphometrically. Blood pressure data were taken from published population surveys. Fibroplastic renovasculopathy was found to provide a proxy for mean blood pressure (MBP) when comparing groups of men and women of various age groups in the USA and Japan. Hyaline renovasculopathy did not reproduce these patterns. Some of these findings confirm similar results from prior studies, and this reproducibility increases confidence that a true biological difference may exist between these populations. " Rodney. --- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote: > > Be nice if he had a ref for " intimal fibroplasia and hypertension " . > The DASH ref ain't it. Neither does it cure HTN. It merely lowers BP a little. > > You can't say what it isn't until you know what it is. > > Regards. > [ ] Blood Pressure > > > Hi folsk: > > Also from Dr. Mirkin ............. quite interesting, much of which > I was not previously aware of for BP: > > " WHY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES WITH AGE > > Gabe Mirkin, M.D. > > Blood pressure often rises with aging. Contrary to what many doctors > think, salt, obesity and alcohol have little to do with this rise. > > High blood pressure is associated with heart attacks, strokes, aging > and death. Recent research shows that high blood pressure associated > with aging is probably caused by damage to the arteries leading to > the kidneys. Obesity, excess salt and alcohol cause reversible high > blood pressure. Taking a large amount of salt can cause your body to > retain fluid, enlarge blood volume and raise blood pressure > temporarily, but blood pressure returns to normal soon afterwards. > For most people, taking in a lot of salt does not raise blood > pressure. Drinking alcohol raises blood pressure only for a short > time. Obesity is associated with a sustained high blood pressure at > any age, and is usually reversible with weight loss. > > Recent research show that damaged kidney arteries, called intimal > fibroplasia, are the most likely cause of high blood pressure and > that prevention of high blood pressure with aging includes preventing > kidney arterial damage by eating plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole > grains, beans and nuts, reducing your intake of processed foods and > dairy products, exercising and avoiding overweight. See the DASH > diet, report #8614. > > RE . Salt, obesity, and alcohol fail to induce a lasting rise of > blood pressure with age, and may be independent of renocortical > vasculopathy.Qjm - Monthly Journal of the Association of Physicians, > 1999, Vol 92, Iss 10, pp 601-607.Address RE, Louisiana State > Univ, Med Ctr, Dept Pathol, 1901 Perdido St, New Orleans,LA 70112 USA " > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi JR: " Hypertensive renovasculopathies and the rise of blood pressure with age in Japan and USA. RE, Ishii T. Department of Pathology, Louisiana State University Medical Center, New Orleans 70112, USA. rtracy@... Arterial intimal fibroplasia in renal interlobular arteries but not arteriolar hyalinization was reported to be proportional to the rise of blood pressure with age in the data from all populations examined so far. New findings from Japan offer further insights into the disparities between the two types of renovasculopathy, both of which are called by the same name, 'arteriolosclerosis'. PAS stained paraffin sections were prepared from specimens obtained at autopsy in Tokyo and New Orleans, emphasizing basal subjects, i.e. those with no cause of death known to be related to hypertension. Severities of fibroplastic vasculopathy, in units of intimal thickness as % of outer diameter, and hyaline vasculopathy, in units of affected arterioles per cm2 of tissue sectional area, were measured morphometrically. Blood pressure data were taken from published population surveys. Fibroplastic renovasculopathy was found to provide a proxy for mean blood pressure (MBP) when comparing groups of men and women of various age groups in the USA and Japan. Hyaline renovasculopathy did not reproduce these patterns. Some of these findings confirm similar results from prior studies, and this reproducibility increases confidence that a true biological difference may exist between these populations. " Rodney. --- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote: > > Be nice if he had a ref for " intimal fibroplasia and hypertension " . > The DASH ref ain't it. Neither does it cure HTN. It merely lowers BP a little. > > You can't say what it isn't until you know what it is. > > Regards. > [ ] Blood Pressure > > > Hi folsk: > > Also from Dr. Mirkin ............. quite interesting, much of which > I was not previously aware of for BP: > > " WHY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES WITH AGE > > Gabe Mirkin, M.D. > > Blood pressure often rises with aging. Contrary to what many doctors > think, salt, obesity and alcohol have little to do with this rise. > > High blood pressure is associated with heart attacks, strokes, aging > and death. Recent research shows that high blood pressure associated > with aging is probably caused by damage to the arteries leading to > the kidneys. Obesity, excess salt and alcohol cause reversible high > blood pressure. Taking a large amount of salt can cause your body to > retain fluid, enlarge blood volume and raise blood pressure > temporarily, but blood pressure returns to normal soon afterwards. > For most people, taking in a lot of salt does not raise blood > pressure. Drinking alcohol raises blood pressure only for a short > time. Obesity is associated with a sustained high blood pressure at > any age, and is usually reversible with weight loss. > > Recent research show that damaged kidney arteries, called intimal > fibroplasia, are the most likely cause of high blood pressure and > that prevention of high blood pressure with aging includes preventing > kidney arterial damage by eating plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole > grains, beans and nuts, reducing your intake of processed foods and > dairy products, exercising and avoiding overweight. See the DASH > diet, report #8614. > > RE . Salt, obesity, and alcohol fail to induce a lasting rise of > blood pressure with age, and may be independent of renocortical > vasculopathy.Qjm - Monthly Journal of the Association of Physicians, > 1999, Vol 92, Iss 10, pp 601-607.Address RE, Louisiana State > Univ, Med Ctr, Dept Pathol, 1901 Perdido St, New Orleans,LA 70112 USA " > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Thanks very much, Rodney. Not that I think arterio in something, is not the cause, the problem I have with that is that many hypertensives do not have renal problems, and this implies they should lose some kidney function, which should be measurable. Not that we can do anything about it. There are surely a large number who do have renal problems, and it is believable that the BP rises to counteract the arterio, but that is not all the essential HTN. I'll check it further. Regards. [ ] Blood Pressure> > > Hi folsk:> > Also from Dr. Mirkin ............. quite interesting, much of which > I was not previously aware of for BP:> > "WHY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES WITH AGE> > Gabe Mirkin, M.D.> > Blood pressure often rises with aging. Contrary to what many doctors > think, salt, obesity and alcohol have little to do with this rise. > > High blood pressure is associated with heart attacks, strokes, aging > and death. Recent research shows that high blood pressure associated > with aging is probably caused by damage to the arteries leading to > the kidneys. Obesity, excess salt and alcohol cause reversible high > blood pressure. Taking a large amount of salt can cause your body to > retain fluid, enlarge blood volume and raise blood pressure > temporarily, but blood pressure returns to normal soon afterwards. > For most people, taking in a lot of salt does not raise blood > pressure. Drinking alcohol raises blood pressure only for a short > time. Obesity is associated with a sustained high blood pressure at > any age, and is usually reversible with weight loss. > > Recent research show that damaged kidney arteries, called intimal > fibroplasia, are the most likely cause of high blood pressure and > that prevention of high blood pressure with aging includes preventing > kidney arterial damage by eating plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole > grains, beans and nuts, reducing your intake of processed foods and > dairy products, exercising and avoiding overweight. See the DASH > diet, report #8614.> > RE . Salt, obesity, and alcohol fail to induce a lasting rise of > blood pressure with age, and may be independent of renocortical > vasculopathy.Qjm - Monthly Journal of the Association of Physicians, > 1999, Vol 92, Iss 10, pp 601-607.Address RE, Louisiana State > Univ, Med Ctr, Dept Pathol, 1901 Perdido St, New Orleans,LA 70112 USA"> > Rodney.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Thanks very much, Rodney. Not that I think arterio in something, is not the cause, the problem I have with that is that many hypertensives do not have renal problems, and this implies they should lose some kidney function, which should be measurable. Not that we can do anything about it. There are surely a large number who do have renal problems, and it is believable that the BP rises to counteract the arterio, but that is not all the essential HTN. I'll check it further. Regards. [ ] Blood Pressure> > > Hi folsk:> > Also from Dr. Mirkin ............. quite interesting, much of which > I was not previously aware of for BP:> > "WHY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES WITH AGE> > Gabe Mirkin, M.D.> > Blood pressure often rises with aging. Contrary to what many doctors > think, salt, obesity and alcohol have little to do with this rise. > > High blood pressure is associated with heart attacks, strokes, aging > and death. Recent research shows that high blood pressure associated > with aging is probably caused by damage to the arteries leading to > the kidneys. Obesity, excess salt and alcohol cause reversible high > blood pressure. Taking a large amount of salt can cause your body to > retain fluid, enlarge blood volume and raise blood pressure > temporarily, but blood pressure returns to normal soon afterwards. > For most people, taking in a lot of salt does not raise blood > pressure. Drinking alcohol raises blood pressure only for a short > time. Obesity is associated with a sustained high blood pressure at > any age, and is usually reversible with weight loss. > > Recent research show that damaged kidney arteries, called intimal > fibroplasia, are the most likely cause of high blood pressure and > that prevention of high blood pressure with aging includes preventing > kidney arterial damage by eating plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole > grains, beans and nuts, reducing your intake of processed foods and > dairy products, exercising and avoiding overweight. See the DASH > diet, report #8614.> > RE . Salt, obesity, and alcohol fail to induce a lasting rise of > blood pressure with age, and may be independent of renocortical > vasculopathy.Qjm - Monthly Journal of the Association of Physicians, > 1999, Vol 92, Iss 10, pp 601-607.Address RE, Louisiana State > Univ, Med Ctr, Dept Pathol, 1901 Perdido St, New Orleans,LA 70112 USA"> > Rodney.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 FWIW, I contacted a friend, Dr Clarence Grim, and his answer: "I know this article and the autohr and the issue is which comes first-the increase in BP or the artery disease. My guess is it is the BP. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS (Chem/Math), MS (Biochem), MD, FACP, FACC, FAHSClinical Professor of Medicine and EpidemiologyDirector, Hypertension Diagnosis and Treatment CenterBoard Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and HypertensionPublished over 220 scientific papers, book chapters and 220 abstracts in the area of high blood pressure epidemiology, physiology, endocrinology measurement, treatment and how to detect curable causes.Listed in Best Doctors in AmericaSpecializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the History and Physiology of High Blood pressure in the African Diaspora [ ] Blood Pressure> > > Hi folsk:> > Also from Dr. Mirkin ............. quite interesting, much of which > I was not previously aware of for BP:> > "WHY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES WITH AGE> > Gabe Mirkin, M.D.> > Blood pressure often rises with aging. Contrary to what many doctors > think, salt, obesity and alcohol have little to do with this rise. > > High blood pressure is associated with heart attacks, strokes, aging > and death. Recent research shows that high blood pressure associated > with aging is probably caused by damage to the arteries leading to > the kidneys. Obesity, excess salt and alcohol cause reversible high > blood pressure. Taking a large amount of salt can cause your body to > retain fluid, enlarge blood volume and raise blood pressure > temporarily, but blood pressure returns to normal soon afterwards. > For most people, taking in a lot of salt does not raise blood > pressure. Drinking alcohol raises blood pressure only for a short > time. Obesity is associated with a sustained high blood pressure at > any age, and is usually reversible with weight loss. > > Recent research show that damaged kidney arteries, called intimal > fibroplasia, are the most likely cause of high blood pressure and > that prevention of high blood pressure with aging includes preventing > kidney arterial damage by eating plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole > grains, beans and nuts, reducing your intake of processed foods and > dairy products, exercising and avoiding overweight. See the DASH > diet, report #8614.> > RE . Salt, obesity, and alcohol fail to induce a lasting rise of > blood pressure with age, and may be independent of renocortical > vasculopathy.Qjm - Monthly Journal of the Association of Physicians, > 1999, Vol 92, Iss 10, pp 601-607.Address RE, Louisiana State > Univ, Med Ctr, Dept Pathol, 1901 Perdido St, New Orleans,LA 70112 USA"> > Rodney.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 FWIW, I contacted a friend, Dr Clarence Grim, and his answer: "I know this article and the autohr and the issue is which comes first-the increase in BP or the artery disease. My guess is it is the BP. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS (Chem/Math), MS (Biochem), MD, FACP, FACC, FAHSClinical Professor of Medicine and EpidemiologyDirector, Hypertension Diagnosis and Treatment CenterBoard Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and HypertensionPublished over 220 scientific papers, book chapters and 220 abstracts in the area of high blood pressure epidemiology, physiology, endocrinology measurement, treatment and how to detect curable causes.Listed in Best Doctors in AmericaSpecializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the History and Physiology of High Blood pressure in the African Diaspora [ ] Blood Pressure> > > Hi folsk:> > Also from Dr. Mirkin ............. quite interesting, much of which > I was not previously aware of for BP:> > "WHY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES WITH AGE> > Gabe Mirkin, M.D.> > Blood pressure often rises with aging. Contrary to what many doctors > think, salt, obesity and alcohol have little to do with this rise. > > High blood pressure is associated with heart attacks, strokes, aging > and death. Recent research shows that high blood pressure associated > with aging is probably caused by damage to the arteries leading to > the kidneys. Obesity, excess salt and alcohol cause reversible high > blood pressure. Taking a large amount of salt can cause your body to > retain fluid, enlarge blood volume and raise blood pressure > temporarily, but blood pressure returns to normal soon afterwards. > For most people, taking in a lot of salt does not raise blood > pressure. Drinking alcohol raises blood pressure only for a short > time. Obesity is associated with a sustained high blood pressure at > any age, and is usually reversible with weight loss. > > Recent research show that damaged kidney arteries, called intimal > fibroplasia, are the most likely cause of high blood pressure and > that prevention of high blood pressure with aging includes preventing > kidney arterial damage by eating plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole > grains, beans and nuts, reducing your intake of processed foods and > dairy products, exercising and avoiding overweight. See the DASH > diet, report #8614.> > RE . Salt, obesity, and alcohol fail to induce a lasting rise of > blood pressure with age, and may be independent of renocortical > vasculopathy.Qjm - Monthly Journal of the Association of Physicians, > 1999, Vol 92, Iss 10, pp 601-607.Address RE, Louisiana State > Univ, Med Ctr, Dept Pathol, 1901 Perdido St, New Orleans,LA 70112 USA"> > Rodney.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 My blood pressure always was low 110 over 70 and sometimes lower. Now it is always 130 or higher over 80 or 85. I am sure the meds do that. Of course I am 20 lbs heaver too. Hmmmmmmmm could that be why??? Sharon T _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lottie Duthu Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:35 PM CML Subject: [ ] Blood pressure Dear Matt & Suzzie, I'm with you on the blood pressue bit. I never had a problem with my blood pressure until I started the CML drugs. I don't know how many people have an issue with this, but it would be nice to know how many do, so please pop your head in and say you have the same problem, then we can tell our doctors about our poll. Thanx. Blessings, Lottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 My dad is on BP meds since CML. He says every time he drives by a do tors office he can feel his blood pressure rising LOL > > Dear Matt & Suzzie, > I'm with you on the blood pressue bit. I never had a problem with my blood pressure until I started the CML drugs. I don't know how many people have an issue with this, but it would be nice to know how many do, so please pop your head in and say you have the same problem, then we can tell our doctors about our poll. Thanx. > Blessings, > Lottie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 He is and we love him dearly! Laughter is great medicine! > > > > Dear Matt & Suzzie, > > I'm with you on the blood pressue bit. I never had a problem with my blood pressure until I started the CML drugs. I don't know how many people have an issue with this, but it would be nice to know how many do, so please pop your head in and say you have the same problem, then we can tell our doctors about our poll. Thanx. > > Blessings, > > Lottie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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