Vertigo

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I dont know Marcia. Sometimes that represents a sensitivity and be taken care

of. Sometimes people have both. Sensitivities tend to affect our weakest areas.

Marcia Grahn wrote:

> From: Marcia Grahn <mgrahn@...>

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> Stevan Cordas DO MPH wrote:

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> > From: Stevan Cordas DO MPH <sco338@...>

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> > Central vertigo is found with CFIDS. It is nested by a neuro-otologist.

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> Would this be why when I react badly to certain (many) supplements, I get

dizzy?

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> Marcia

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Stevan Cordas DO MPH wrote:

> From: Stevan Cordas DO MPH <sco338@...>

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> Central vertigo is found with CFIDS. It is nested by a neuro-otologist.

>

Would this be why when I react badly to certain (many) supplements, I get dizzy?

Marcia

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does any one know of any remedies for vertigo..an old wives tale or any alt

meds that will help heal this inner ear condition? thanks. teri.

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wish l knew what insufflation meant.

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Dear teri,

Ozone ear insufflation.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

Re: vertigo

> does any one know of any remedies for vertigo..an old wives tale or any

alt

> meds that will help heal this inner ear condition? thanks. teri.

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teri,

This is bald guessing, but I would assume the inner ear is involved in

vertigo and try ozone insufflation, 3% peroxide, acidophilus & water,

GSE or even ear candling.

jim

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> does any one know of any remedies for vertigo..an old wives tale or any alt

> meds that will help heal this inner ear condition? thanks. teri.

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Dear teri,

Insufflation is allowing a gas to enter into an orifice.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

Re: vertigo

> wish l knew what insufflation meant.

>

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For temporary vertigo, not chronic, I have used Vit O drops with great success.

Donna

Re: vertigo

does any one know of any remedies for vertigo..an old wives tale or any alt

meds that will help heal this inner ear condition? thanks. teri.

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Dear Bob:

I had one client with Toxic mold encephalopathy, he was sent to me by Lubar. We had a brain map done on this client, so the path was a bit more clear. I think it depends on the symptoms your client presents. I do remember training him at F3, after he had spent some time in doing the Captains Log the University of Tennessee prior to my treatment. The map indicated a protocol of increasing beta (16-20) and a decrease of theta/alpha (6-10). He did very well with his training and reported symptom relief when he was done with 25-30 sessions along with the prior training. He was able to get a job, read and retain, etc. He did show some personality issues, that were treated by a therapist in conjunction with NF treatments.

JoAnn

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What did the assessment show? What led you to train at T3/T4? How did you pick those frequencies?

Pete

-----Original Message-----From: EEG Neurofeedback [mailto:neurofeedbac@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: Vertigo

I have a new client (75 year female) that had two brain stem strokes last September. As result she suffered a few different problems. The main one being vertigo. She is dizzy with movement, especially walking. She presents primarily as over aroused. She has some right side weakness/stiffness, along with blurred vision and at times double vision. She also experiences right side face pains, headache once a week, and ringing in her ears.

We have completed 6 sessions at T3-T4 15 min downing training, and 15 min 8-11 reward and 2-13 inhibit. She has allot of low frequencies and alpha. She's seen a few improvements. She is having fewer face pains and some nights where she isn't waking as often. She also has not had any headaches in the last few weeks. We have yet not had any impact on the vertigo. If anyone has dealt with this before some suggestions it would be appreciated.

GarrettRehab. Center for Neuro. Development850 S. Main St.Piqua, OH 45356(937) 773-763neurofeedbac@...

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Hi ,

In our clinic, we would approach something of that nature with SOT pelvic/cranial adjusting and the frequency specific microcurrent. Dr. McMakin has a wonderful 'concussion' protocol for the microcurrent that, by itself, could contribute a great deal to resolving the vertigo. Check her fibular heads as well...they often go posterior/inferior undermining pelvic/cranial stabily.

Sunny ;'-))

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DCFibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon59 Santa Clara St.,Eugene, Oregon, 97404541-689-0935

Vertigo

I have a Female, mid 60's that developed vertigo after a pretty violent side impact MVA. Nothing I have tried so far helped, the ENT told her to learn to live with it, nice. I heard of some osteopathic maneuver that could help with internal ear issues.

Any suggestions? It would be nice if we could send her in the Salem area, but she can travel to Portland.

Thank you,

M. Côté D.C.

215 West C Street

Silverton, Or

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I would have her evaluated by either lin Coale of West Lynn or Bob Grimm of Portland. is an ENT with training for MVA trauma and Bob Grimm is a neurologist with inner ear concussion specialty.

Matt Terreri, DC

Vertigo

I have a Female, mid 60's that developed vertigo after a pretty violent side impact MVA. Nothing I have tried so far helped, the ENT told her to learn to live with it, nice. I heard of some osteopathic maneuver that could help with internal ear issues.

Any suggestions? It would be nice if we could send her in the Salem area, but she can travel to Portland.

Thank you,

M. Côté D.C.

215 West C Street

Silverton, Or

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Sounds like the patient could have BPPV and you would want to do the

Epley maneuver for that...you have several choices...Epley is an

EENT guy that developed the maneuver and her is here in

Portland...could send the patient there for a 1500.00 workup OR get

his tapes for 275 and do it yourself, or send the patient to Don

White, DC for 2 visits to have it done. More info on Epley at

http://www.earinfosite.org/ Don white is in Beaverton. I assume you

did Rhomberg, finger to nose and the rest of the cranial nerves.

Dennis DC

> I have a Female, mid 60's that developed vertigo after a pretty

violent side impact MVA. Nothing I have tried so far helped, the ENT

told her to learn to live with it, nice. I heard of some osteopathic

maneuver that could help with internal ear issues.

> Any suggestions? It would be nice if we could send her in the

Salem area, but she can travel to Portland.

> Thank you,

>

> M. Côté D.C.

>

> 215 West C Street

>

> Silverton, Or

>

> cote@v...

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Hello all:

Get any patient to agree that whatever you

will do will help the vertigo. Keep it simple, short, but clear in your explanation

(patient ed). Consider an acupoint,

forceless atlas toggle, chakra balancing, microstim, or whatever is believable to you and the

patient. Try it, and ask immediately if the vertigo is reduced. Surprisingly,

most will make immediate improvement. Repeat until sufficient response. This is

not a placebo. This is neural re-integration. The nervous system will change its

sensory adaptive response if the patient will simply seek it clearly.

We don’t like the old program so we

change the channel until we find one we like. If one system fails, change the

channel to another. If none work then an organic origin is more likely. Always

rule out the obvious maladies first, since you may “mask” serious

disease with their rapid recovery. I have seen this in home birth, heart

failure, and many other conditions where the layman might think there is no way but the emergency room and then, Whala! Instant improvement.  This pathway is common to every known healing

technique I have studied from hypnosis to vitamins, from toftness

to HIO, from AK to acupuncture, from surgery to tranquilizers. The question

that may never be answered satisfactorily is this: how much of the treatment is

neural re-integration (not a placebo) and how much is purely a result of a

physical intervention? My observation is the ubiquitous 80/10/10 rule we all

know so well and try to ignore.

B.T.W.: Placebo does not incorporate the consummate

belief of both the clinician and the patient followed by immediate verification,

which would be the within the description of neural re-integration.

Willard Bertrand, D.C.

Vertigo

I have

a Female, mid 60's that developed vertigo after a pretty violent side impact

MVA. Nothing I have tried so far helped, the ENT told her to learn to live with

it, nice. I heard of some osteopathic maneuver that could help with internal

ear issues.

Any

suggestions? It would be nice if we could send her in the Salem area, but she

can travel to Portland.

Thank

you,

M. Côté D.C.

215 West C Street

Silverton, Or

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Vertigo is one of those symptoms that can come from lots of different problem areas. Assuming it's not an inner ear thing, it could be related to autonomic function (is blood pressure very high or very low?).

Training a one-channel bipolar montage between electrodes placed below O1 and O2, increase SMR and decrease theta differentials has been reported by some on this list to have positive results.

Hill just posted, less than a month ago, about his positive response to training bipolar between, I believe, T5 and T6. Glance back through the posts since June 7th to get the exact frequencies he was using.

Pete

Van DeusenBrainTrainer ()16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157305/321-1595

Vertigo

Does anyone know what protocols could help with vertigo or what areas in the assessment i should look at that would be responsible for causing vertigo?

Thanks,

~

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Thanks Pete~

I remember now that you mention it, I will check back at the posts earlier in the month.

Assessment shows high frequencies at the temporals,(50% beta and hibeta) high beta everywhere, very low SMR and has a head injury at the back of the head (OZ) from 30 years ago .

No high blood pressure.

2 channel T3T4 (15-35) seems to have helped the vertigo some. Since there was injury at OZ the O1/O2 may help. Thanks,

~

Vertigo

Does anyone know what protocols could help with vertigo or what areas in the assessment i should look at that would be responsible for causing vertigo?

Thanks,

~

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Hi Swirl.....Have you checked into drainage of the cranial area with a good

alignment with " cranial sacral therapy " ? A lso a reputable ear candler

would be another positive source.

Amiring your perserverence...Dolores!!!

Vertigo

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> Has anybody had any success treating vertigo with kombucha tea?

>

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> Has anybody had any success treating vertigo with kombucha tea?

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I want to thank you all for responding to my question about Vertigo. I also

had to laugh at the coincidence of my name " Swirl " and the symptoms of

vertigo, that hadn't even occurred to me, but the answer is " no " I am not the

one

with vertigo. A friend of mine has it and I thought perhaps kombu may help

her. Thank you for your suggestions.

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Wow!!! I have been having this happen to me. I assumed that it was due to either my past shock therapy treatments or a med overdose that may have affected my brain. Now I realize that it has been going on since being restarted on Amiodarone a little over a year ago. It usually happens when I stand up and try to walk. Iam 46 but look like an old lady touching the walls etc to keep my balance. I also seem to get it when I am in the shower, so I keep one hand on the wall most of the time.

Guess I should get it checked out, huh.

Hi fellow Zappers,Do any of you suffer from vertigo. I've had several occasions, where the vertigo has left me staggering as if I were drunk. I talked with my cardiologist about it the other day and he ordered a Doppler of my carotid arteries. I'm on amiodarone and a couple of other drugs that are said to have vertigo as a side effect.Just wondered if any of you have had experience with it. I take Antivert (meclazine) when its really bad. It helps, but makes me so drowsy I'm zonked out for several hours. I've had my ICD for a little over a year, no unwanted shocks or wanted one's either.Dan S

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Hi Dan,

I get vertigo all the time. Cardiologist says its probably from

blood pressure running low at times. I just put up with it, stand up

slow and just let folks around town think I'm drunk half the time.

Becky

> Hi fellow Zappers,

>

> Do any of you suffer from vertigo. I've had several occasions,

where the

> vertigo has left me staggering as if I were drunk. I talked with

my

> cardiologist about it the other day and he ordered a Doppler of my

> carotid arteries. I'm on amiodarone and a couple of other drugs

that are

> said to have vertigo as a side effect.

>

> Just wondered if any of you have had experience with it. I take

Antivert

> (meclazine) when its really bad. It helps, but makes me so drowsy

I'm

> zonked out for several hours. I've had my ICD for a little over a

year,

> no unwanted shocks or wanted one's either.

>

> Dan S

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Hmmm, maybe that's why I feel like I'm inebriated some of the time,

stumbling while walking.

On Apr 27, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Scrapnfriend@... wrote:

> Wow!!!  I have been having this happen to me.  I assumed that it was

> due to either my past shock therapy treatments or a med overdose that

> may have affected my brain.  Now I realize that it has been going on

> since being restarted on Amiodarone a little over a year ago.  It

> usually happens when I stand up and try to walk.  Iam 46 but look like

> an old lady touching the walls etc to keep my balance.   I also seem

> to get it when I am in the shower, so I keep one hand on the wall most

> of the time.

>  

> Guess I should get it checked out, huh.

>  

>

>> Hi fellow Zappers,

>>

>> Do any of you suffer from vertigo. I've had several occasions, where

>> the

>> vertigo has left me staggering as if I were drunk. I talked with my

>> cardiologist about it the other day and he ordered a Doppler of my

>> carotid arteries. I'm on amiodarone and a couple of other drugs that

>> are

>> said to have vertigo as a side effect.

>>

>> Just wondered if any of you have had experience with it. I take

>> Antivert

>> (meclazine) when its really bad. It helps, but makes me so drowsy I'm 

>> zonked out for several hours. I've had my ICD for a little over a

>> year,

>> no unwanted shocks or wanted one's either.

>>

>> Dan S

>  

>  

>

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That sounds to me like a BP drop, considering when it happens. You

should definitely tell your docs about it.

Bridget

>

>

> Wow!!! I have been having this happen to me. I assumed that it

was due to

> either my past shock therapy treatments or a med overdose that may

have

> affected my brain. Now I realize that it has been going on since

being restarted

> on Amiodarone a little over a year ago. It usually happens when I

stand up

> and try to walk. Iam 46 but look like an old lady touching the

walls etc to

> keep my balance. I also seem to get it when I am in the shower,

so I keep

> one hand on the wall most of the time.

>

> Guess I should get it checked out, huh.

>

>

>

> Hi fellow Zappers,

>

> Do any of you suffer from vertigo. I've had several occasions,

where the

> vertigo has left me staggering as if I were drunk. I talked with

my

> cardiologist about it the other day and he ordered a Doppler of my

> carotid arteries. I'm on amiodarone and a couple of other drugs

that are

> said to have vertigo as a side effect.

>

> Just wondered if any of you have had experience with it. I take

Antivert

> (meclazine) when its really bad. It helps, but makes me so drowsy

I'm

> zonked out for several hours. I've had my ICD for a little over a

year,

> no unwanted shocks or wanted one's either.

>

> Dan S

[Guest guest]

Hi: Its been a while since I posted anything, Like everyone else, I've been busy with one problem or another. However, I eventually do read all the messages posted. I also get occasional dizzy spells which are quite nerve racking. Among other medications I'm also on amiodarone, lisinopril and toprol which all are labeled "may cause drowsiness or dizziness".

Also, I've been diagnosed with "benign positional vertigo". This makes it difficult for the doc to determine what causes the dizziness. He doesn't want to add to my list of medications and neither do I. However, I sometimes tell myself if it helps, its only one more medication. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

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When I get vertigo I go to the chiropractor and it is usually my neck out that

affects me. It has been so bad I can't drive and my husband has to take me.

Never a reaction of foods for me, but that is certainly possible. Within

minutes of treatment I am feeling better, sometimes a nap helps me relax enough,

but usually a treatment keeps it from getting worse. in La Selva Beach

CA

Re:

I have a type of vertigo (only at night and only once in a while). It seems I

can track it back to eating seafood that is high in mercury.

Lee