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Hi Josh,

It is an interesting subject this one - I fully believe that you are

sincere and that natural healing is often successful - I have been a

proponent of holistic health for over 30 years.

But you have to be careful with generalising - for example I gave

natural methods 5 years of my life with ZERO effect and I can assure you

that not everyone of those practitioners was incompetent - acupuncture

(one of the most respected in Australia) naturopathy, kinesiology,

chiropractic, osteopathic, herbalists including Chinese medicine, diet

regimes, fasting, you name it............By the way, I continue to eat

organically as I have always done and to use natural health in my daily

life - I am not a person who became sick because of the usual bad

lifestyle habits in the first place.

I think many people here have given much time and faith to holistic

healing only to find it has been inadequate for this particular

" syndrome " .

In my opinion the practitioner who has real overview and can inspire

confidence in a person who is really very ill is a rare bird! If you are

one of those then what a great thing for your clients!

I guess I am asking you to accept and trust that there is no " one size

fits all " approach to healing - it is great to have different input so

please don't be discouraged.

regards,

Kerry

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Gracia

> You must have been seeing incompetent practitioners in that field

then. I

> am

> the people that have learned with me see people all over the world

with

> these dsyfucntions and get results. The difference is that my clients

have

> to work for their health and it takes time. America is lazy and wants

> results over night, so they end up relying on meds and MS's, who treat

the

> symptoms. AS well, to the moderator of this forum. If you are going to

cut

> all my posts in half and put all my info that I type up, the I would

> appreciate being taken off this forum. If you are going to keep my

posts

> as

> is, than great. If MD's truely new about this dysfunction and the

body,

> don't you think they would have this under wraps? Don't you think they

> would

> be able to educate you and get you on the road to recovery? So

obviously

> there is something huge missing in between. That is functional and

logical

> medicine treating the route of the problem and not the symptom. You

can

> believe whatever you want, that is your right. But I can tell you from

> treating lots of clients with your dysfucntions and less than par

appetite

> for living, that it works.

>

>

>

> With Qi,

>

> Josh

>

>

>

>

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Hi Ed,

I just love your posts. I am very into the more natural ways of healing and

relieving pain.

Calcium works great for charlie horses. Vitamin C believe it or not reduces my

swelling and muscle tightness.

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...you are a blessing ! I have just started Natural Healing..try's not to

give meds.....He thinks my body is full of toxins...he told me to take

Nutri-DMSA..have any of you heard of it....? I worry about taking anything these

days........Thanks Geri

I am very into the more natural ways of healing and relieving pain.

Calcium works great for charlie horses. Vitamin C believe it or not reduces my

swelling and muscle tightness.

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In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

what'shisname writes:

A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of in

a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy kures. A quick

read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing -- the belief

that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one just stays

out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

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In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

what'shisname writes:

A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of in

a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy kures. A quick

read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing -- the belief

that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one just stays

out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

_So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

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Ed, I think that you are the exception to the rule but let's find

out!

1. Is there any members of this group or their friends have been HIV

positive for a long time and were able to stay healthy using only

rebounding and a vegan diet or other natural ways?

2. Is there anybody that have experienced low CD4s with their

condition deteriorating or a corrolation of CD4s rising because they

were sick?

Please come forward! Let's educate ourselves from our experiences.

Thanks,

Sylvain

>

>

> In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> what'shisname writes:

>

> A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of

in

> a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

>

>

> Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy

kures. A quick

> read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing --

the belief

> that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one

just stays

> out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

>

> _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice.

They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

>

> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-

new AOL at

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Ed, I think that you are the exception to the rule but let's find

out!

1. Is there any members of this group or their friends have been HIV

positive for a long time and were able to stay healthy using only

rebounding and a vegan diet or other natural ways?

2. Is there anybody that have experienced low CD4s with their

condition deteriorating or a corrolation of CD4s rising because they

were sick?

Please come forward! Let's educate ourselves from our experiences.

Thanks,

Sylvain

>

>

> In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> what'shisname writes:

>

> A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of

in

> a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

>

>

> Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy

kures. A quick

> read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing --

the belief

> that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one

just stays

> out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

>

> _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice.

They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

>

> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-

new AOL at

> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

>

>

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I have been postive for over 7 yrears and I was exposed back in 1992,which means

I have had it for a least 15 yrs.

When I was first told my t-cells were about 800 and then I went to a healthier

diet and herbs and rebounding etc.and in 3 months my T-cells went to over 1000

and all I know was that my doctor was thrilled BECAUSE they went UP.And if I

have ever had an allergy attact or any thing bad they went down. For over the

last 5 yrs.they have remained over 1200 if not 1500 and I'm as healthy as a

horse.I have NEVER taken Any drugs of any kind for any reason and don't plan on

it.Harvard is now studing me to find out why I'm so healthy.I have been totoaly

vegan now for almost a yr.and it has continued to bless my health. thanks a

Re: Natural Healing

Ed, I think that you are the exception to the rule but let's find

out!

1. Is there any members of this group or their friends have been HIV

positive for a long time and were able to stay healthy using only

rebounding and a vegan diet or other natural ways?

2. Is there anybody that have experienced low CD4s with their

condition deteriorating or a corrolation of CD4s rising because they

were sick?

Please come forward! Let's educate ourselves from our experiences.

Thanks,

Sylvain

>

>

> In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> what'shisname writes:

>

> A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of

in

> a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

>

>

> Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy

kures. A quick

> read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing --

the belief

> that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one

just stays

> out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

>

> _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice.

They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

>

> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-

new AOL at

> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

>

>

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I have been postive for over 7 yrears and I was exposed back in 1992,which means

I have had it for a least 15 yrs.

When I was first told my t-cells were about 800 and then I went to a healthier

diet and herbs and rebounding etc.and in 3 months my T-cells went to over 1000

and all I know was that my doctor was thrilled BECAUSE they went UP.And if I

have ever had an allergy attact or any thing bad they went down. For over the

last 5 yrs.they have remained over 1200 if not 1500 and I'm as healthy as a

horse.I have NEVER taken Any drugs of any kind for any reason and don't plan on

it.Harvard is now studing me to find out why I'm so healthy.I have been totoaly

vegan now for almost a yr.and it has continued to bless my health. thanks a

Re: Natural Healing

Ed, I think that you are the exception to the rule but let's find

out!

1. Is there any members of this group or their friends have been HIV

positive for a long time and were able to stay healthy using only

rebounding and a vegan diet or other natural ways?

2. Is there anybody that have experienced low CD4s with their

condition deteriorating or a corrolation of CD4s rising because they

were sick?

Please come forward! Let's educate ourselves from our experiences.

Thanks,

Sylvain

>

>

> In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> what'shisname writes:

>

> A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of

in

> a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

>

>

> Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy

kures. A quick

> read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing --

the belief

> that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one

just stays

> out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

>

> _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice.

They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

>

> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-

new AOL at

> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

>

>

>

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Thanks a for your testimony. So you are in your experience, your

CD4s went down if you got sick like most testimonies that I have

heard. Could you please tell us what herbs you took and how long you

rebound daily?

Anybody has other testimonies to add, please?

Thank you for your valuable input.

Sylvain

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > what'shisname writes:

> >

> > A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of

> in

> > a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

> >

> >

> > Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy

> kures. A quick

> > read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing --

> the belief

> > that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one

> just stays

> > out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

> >

> > _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> >

> > NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

> Security Agency

> > may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice.

> They may do

> > this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

> recourse

> > nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> > administration.

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-

> new AOL at

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> >

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Thanks a for your testimony. So you are in your experience, your

CD4s went down if you got sick like most testimonies that I have

heard. Could you please tell us what herbs you took and how long you

rebound daily?

Anybody has other testimonies to add, please?

Thank you for your valuable input.

Sylvain

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > what'shisname writes:

> >

> > A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of

> in

> > a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

> >

> >

> > Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy

> kures. A quick

> > read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing --

> the belief

> > that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one

> just stays

> > out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

> >

> > _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> >

> > NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

> Security Agency

> > may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice.

> They may do

> > this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

> recourse

> > nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> > administration.

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-

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> >

> >

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Pretty easy for me, just for data collection.

Have been positive since 2001. Some health issues relating to

digestion. don't count CD4s. Don't have a vegan diet. Don't

rebound. But I am active and eat relatively well though I don't

avoid all toxins.

Sick almost never.

On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:58 AM, happytype wrote:

> Thanks a for your testimony. So you are in your experience, your

> CD4s went down if you got sick like most testimonies that I have

> heard. Could you please tell us what herbs you took and how long you

> rebound daily?

> Anybody has other testimonies to add, please?

> Thank you for your valuable input.

> Sylvain

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > what'shisname writes:

> > >

> > > A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of

> > in

> > > a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

> > >

> > >

> > > Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy

> > kures. A quick

> > > read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing --

> > the belief

> > > that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one

> > just stays

> > > out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

> > >

> > > _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> > >

> > > NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

> > Security Agency

> > > may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice.

> > They may do

> > > this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

> > recourse

> > > nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> > > administration.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the

> all-

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> > >

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Pretty easy for me, just for data collection.

Have been positive since 2001. Some health issues relating to

digestion. don't count CD4s. Don't have a vegan diet. Don't

rebound. But I am active and eat relatively well though I don't

avoid all toxins.

Sick almost never.

On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:58 AM, happytype wrote:

> Thanks a for your testimony. So you are in your experience, your

> CD4s went down if you got sick like most testimonies that I have

> heard. Could you please tell us what herbs you took and how long you

> rebound daily?

> Anybody has other testimonies to add, please?

> Thank you for your valuable input.

> Sylvain

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 7/23/2007 3:35:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > what'shisname writes:

> > >

> > > A few days ago, i got a call from a friend that I didn't hear of

> > in

> > > a few years and who heard that i was into natural healing.

> > >

> > >

> > > Sorry, you are not into natural healing. You are into krazy

> > kures. A quick

> > > read back here will verify that. I am into natural healing --

> > the belief

> > > that the body has the inherent intelligence to heal itself if one

> > just stays

> > > out of the way, and, at most, listen to the body.

> > >

> > > _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> > >

> > > NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

> > Security Agency

> > > may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice.

> > They may do

> > > this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

> > recourse

> > > nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> > > administration.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the

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> An interesting site! I could get lost in it. :-) Love, Joy

I would to I just want the group to know that This is not my store nor

am I trying to sell anything I just wanted to share the pictures of the

gemstones and nothing more I have already been attacked in another

group that I posted it in.

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Honey, I knew you were sharing. :-) It's really easy sometimes to be misread, (I misread and have been misread), especially when we are having a bad day. Lots of Love, Joy

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>> An interesting site! I could get lost in it. :-) Love, JoyI would to I just want the group to know that This is not my store nor am I trying to sell anything I just wanted to share the pictures of the gemstones and nothing more I have already been attacked in another group that I posted it in.

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In a message dated 11/29/2007 8:06:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alienmystic@... writes:

I had to share this with the group. I have a few things I would put on Santa's list.

I could live here!!!! lol Thanks for sharing !!! ~Blessings~

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