Diet question

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1) yes, that is okay for the spray

2) yes, actually after lifting I eat within 30mins of training and it

is always a shake. your body is a sponge at that time.

> I haven't posted here, but started last monday. I just a had 2

> questions. 1) Is Parkay Butter Spray allowed? It's fat free,

> calorie free, and no carbs.

> 2) After my a.m. workout, I don't have time to wait an hr. before

> eating... usually 30-40 min, does that matter?

>

> Thanks

[Guest guest]

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Thank you. I have a protein shake after workouts, too.

- In , skinnieme2004

<no_reply@y...> wrote:

> 1) yes, that is okay for the spray

>

> 2) yes, actually after lifting I eat within 30mins of training and

it

> is always a shake. your body is a sponge at that time.

>

>

>

> > I haven't posted here, but started last monday. I just a had 2

> > questions. 1) Is Parkay Butter Spray allowed? It's fat free,

> > calorie free, and no carbs.

> > 2) After my a.m. workout, I don't have time to wait an hr.

before

> > eating... usually 30-40 min, does that matter?

> >

> > Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi Jan,

I had serious pain after my esophagectomy in the area of the surgical site

when I tried any kind of alcoholic drink. I couldn't drink wine, beer and

mixed drinks were a definite no, no. I honestly cannot remember how long

that went on (I had the same experience after my two myotomies) I am

guessing a couple of years. I can drink wine now with no problem and I had a

margarita this past weekend well, actually a couple of them, with no

problems. I might add that I take Prevacid daily and I think helps by

reducing the acid. My healing after my esophagectomy took a bit longer

because of the scar tissue that formed and the many dilations needed to keep

the gullet open, and this aggravated the problem. I guess the simple answer

to your question is that I can drink alcohol in moderation.

Diet question

> Hi,

> Is there anyone who has had a esophagectomy who cannot drink alchohol?

> I had a partial esophagectomy last Aug. and I seem to be able to

> tolerate wine okay, but, digestive wise, when I sip on mixed drinks, or

> beer, I really get abdominal pain/burning sensation. Maybe it's just

> that when a person drinks wine, you sip more thank drink.

> Just wondering-

> Jan from N.KY.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/19/2005 11:37:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, efitzgar@... writes:

Hi Jan,I had serious pain after my esophagectomy in the area of the surgical site when I tried any kind of alcoholic drink. I couldn't drink wine, beer and mixed drinks were a definite no, no. I honestly cannot remember how long that went on (I had the same experience after my two myotomies) I am guessing a couple of years. I can drink wine now with no problem and I had a margarita this past weekend well, actually a couple of them, with no problems. I might add that I take Prevacid daily and I think helps by reducing the acid. My healing after my esophagectomy took a bit longer because of the scar tissue that formed and the many dilations needed to keep the gullet open, and this aggravated the problem. I guess the simple answer to your question is that I can drink alcohol in moderation.

Hi ,

Thanks for your input with regards to how you are able to tolerate alcohol in your diet.

I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the quickness with which liquid speeds through the digestive system, now that there is no les, or that my stomach is now so much smaller, but wine does seem to be the only alcoholic beverage I can tolerate without stomach discomfort.

Thanks again,

Jan from Northern KY

[Guest guest]

As far as the dairy allergy, he could have simply outgrew it. If he still has issue with dairy, it could be a dairy intolerance instead of an allergy.

Gluten, is he is not allergic to it, it also could be a food intolerance, or it could be Celiac Disease.

How was your son tested? Was it a blood test? I was told that in order to get a true test, you have to do both the scratch test and the rast test.

My son has severe allergies (actually has something called Eosinophillic Allergic Gastroenteritis) and also has Celiac disease. So there is so much that we have to avoid.

If your son still has issues with these types of food, I'd still avoid them.

Cherie

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

Dairy products can actually cause asthma. He is probably still allergic to it, but grew out of the acute reactions. I have a feeling if you cut ALL dairy out of his diet his asthma will get much better.

I have also heard that dairy and gluten, if the child is allergic to them, can have opiate effects on the child, causing their motor skills to worsen and their attention waiver. Meat can also do this to children, no to mention clogging their arteries and pumping them full of hormones, antibiotics, and loads of other nasty stuff. If I were in your shoes, I'd take him to the doctor to get the OK for a gluten-free vegan diet. If you need help with recipes, just email me! I've got loads of them, and our little guy is 9 years old, 4'10 " and 115lbs- so he is certainly not missing anything! We do take a vegetarian multi and colloidal silver just to cover our bases though.

On 1/10/07, Angie <kayak_krazi@...> wrote:

When my son was two months old I finally figured out he had a dairy allergy (he had bumps all over his face and cried constantly! He would even scream in agony when he farted! Once I eliminated dairy from my diet he was wonderful. Hardly any crying and no face rash. If I added any, even in small portions, he would be really fussy and have a face rash. He had obvious tummy trouble with gas etc. with the dairy. I couldn't have any dairy even if it was a small ingredient or he would become fussy & have face rash. I eventually put him on a type of formula that was supposed to be for dairy intolerance (still dairy, but had removed the part babies were sensitive to.) He still had horrible trouble. Then I went to soy and he had no trouble (and refused breast milk from that point on.) Recently my son had a caesin (sp?) and gluten blood test (called RAST?) On a sensitivity scale of 0 - 6 (I think it was six as a high) he essentially scored a 0. I have heard this test is very reliable. Now I know my son was allergic to something as an infant not just because of the tummy troubles, but because of the horrible face rash which seems to mean there is something more than simply not handling it well (like some people can't handle spicy food.) My son was reintroduced to dairy at one and seems fine with it. So here is my question. What else could have been eliminated from my diet with the dairy elimination? I know that he was a changed kid w/o me eating dairy while breast feeding--no doubt a huge change for the better. My son has severe allergies to mold and cats and asthma. It fits that food could be a cause of some of his issues as suggested by those on caesin/gluten free diets. I just can't figure out the dairy thing if my son scored essentially a 0 for allergens? There must have been something else eliminated w/o me realizing it. He also scored essentially 0 for gluten allergy. The scores were shocking to both the allergist and me considering his history. Any ideas? I know my son is having some tummy troube (no rashes though.) Since the caesin/gluten free diet is big I thought someone may be able to help me figure it out. My son is only three and a very picky eater so food elimination diet won't work (he is also under weight for his height.) I would love to hear any ideas! If caesin and gluten do it for some kids...why not some other ingredients? At least that is the assumption Im going with as I try to figure it out.ThanksAngie -- Don't Breed, Don't Buy, Adopt!

www.avianwelfare.org

[Guest guest]

My sister has celiac sprue and needs to be on a gluten-free diet or

she'll die. Forget opiate properties. Until my sister was diagnosed,

she looked like a corpse that didn't have the good grace to go lie

down somewhere. There's a magazine out there called " Living Without. "

It's for people who need to keep certain items out of their diet.

Lots of recipes and sources for gluten-free foods.

http://www.livingwithout.com/welcome.htm

Research the use of colloidal silver. Your body just needs trace

amounts of various elements, and if you ingest too much silver over a

long period of time, your skin will actually start to turn

permanently " silver, " or gray. It doesn't go away. it is not

treatable. It is irreversible. It's be a shame to not only have to

deal with autism, but permanently silver skin, too.

http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver

http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f02/web2/ctraversi.html

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00971.html

http://www.together.net/~rjstan/rose2.html

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/

col_0289.shtml

http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm

Theresa Mesa

Mesa Design House

http://mesadesignhouse.com

909-335-9710

Hours: By appointment only

On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Avian Rights wrote:

>

> Hi Angie,

>

> Dairy products can actually cause asthma. He is probably still

> allergic to it, but grew out of the acute reactions. I have a

> feeling if you cut ALL dairy out of his diet his asthma will get

> much better.

>

> I have also heard that dairy and gluten, if the child is allergic

> to them, can have opiate effects on the child, causing their motor

> skills to worsen and their attention waiver. Meat can also do this

> to children, no to mention clogging their arteries and pumping them

> full of hormones, antibiotics, and loads of other nasty stuff. If I

> were in your shoes, I'd take him to the doctor to get the OK for a

> gluten-free vegan diet. If you need help with recipes, just email

> me! I've got loads of them, and our little guy is 9 years old,

> 4'10 " and 115lbs- so he is certainly not missing anything! We do

> take a vegetarian multi and colloidal silver just to cover our

> bases though.

>

[Guest guest]

.. Its wierd that you mentioned this bc my son was allergic (allergy tested as baby) to milk, soy, beef, nuts, etc.... But I have noticed that when he does have alot of dairy (he is a big cheese fan) his outburst seem to get worse plus he was vey asthmatic as a baby too. I am writing this info down in my journal and maybe it will connect with other notes and help us. Thanks TrishaAvian Rights <avianrights@...> wrote: Hi Angie, Dairy products can actually cause asthma. He is probably still allergic to it, but grew out of the acute reactions. I have a feeling if you cut ALL dairy out of his diet his asthma will get much better. I have also heard that dairy and gluten, if the child is allergic to them, can have opiate effects on the child, causing their motor skills to worsen and their attention waiver. Meat can also do this to children, no to mention clogging their arteries and pumping them full of hormones, antibiotics, and loads of other nasty stuff. If I were in your shoes, I'd take him to the doctor to get the OK for a gluten-free vegan diet. If you need help with recipes, just email me! I've got loads of them, and our little guy is 9 years old, 4'10" and 115lbs- so he is certainly not missing anything! We do take a vegetarian multi and colloidal silver just to cover our bases though. On 1/10/07, Angie <kayak_krazi > wrote: When my son was two months old I finally figured out he had a dairy allergy (he had bumps all over his face and cried constantly! He would even scream in agony when he farted! Once I eliminated dairy from my diet he was wonderful. Hardly any crying and no face rash. If I added any, even in small portions, he would be really fussy and have a face rash. He had obvious tummy trouble with gas etc. with the dairy. I couldn't have any dairy even if it was a small ingredient or he would become fussy & have face rash. I eventually put him on a type of formula that was supposed to be for dairy intolerance (still dairy, but

had removed the part babies were sensitive to.) He still had horrible trouble. Then I went to soy and he had no trouble (and refused breast milk from that point on.) Recently my son had a caesin (sp?) and gluten blood test (called RAST?) On a sensitivity scale of 0 - 6 (I think it was six as a high) he essentially scored a 0. I have heard this test is very reliable. Now I know my son was allergic to something as an infant not just because of the tummy troubles, but because of the horrible face rash which seems to mean there is something more than simply not handling it well (like some people can't handle spicy food.) My son was reintroduced to dairy at one and seems fine with it. So here is my question. What else could have been eliminated from my diet with the dairy elimination? I know that he was a changed kid w/o me eating dairy while breast feeding--no doubt a huge change for the better. My son has severe allergies to mold

and cats and asthma. It fits that food could be a cause of some of his issues as suggested by those on caesin/gluten free diets. I just can't figure out the dairy thing if my son scored essentially a 0 for allergens? There must have been something else eliminated w/o me realizing it. He also scored essentially 0 for gluten allergy. The scores were shocking to both the allergist and me considering his history. Any ideas? I know my son is having some tummy troube (no rashes though.) Since the caesin/gluten free diet is big I thought someone may be able to help me figure it out. My son is only three and a very picky eater so food elimination diet won't work (he is also under weight for his height.) I would love to hear any ideas! If caesin and gluten do it for some kids...why not some other ingredients? At least that is the assumption Im going with as I try to figure it out.ThanksAngie-- Don't Breed, Don't Buy, Adopt! www.avianwelfare.org

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I did take my son to a peds. deitition specializing in developmental disorders.

She said

putting my son on a resticted diet would be the worse thing I could do because

he gets all

of his nutrients from those types of foods and he is such a picky eater. He

never

complains about food, but he wont eat when he doesn't like it. He was like this

since a

baby. I gave him formula once when he was four months old because he was so

skinny

(98% for height and 20% for weight.) I thought I would supplement formula with

breast

milk to see if he would put on some weight. My son never drank breast milk

again! No

matter what I did he refused it. If I put it in a bottle, mixed it with formula

in any quantity

he refused to drink it. Once he started to become dehydrated I gave up and gave

him

formula. Its hard when a kid would rather not eat then to eat a food they are

not

interested in. The allergist told me the blood test specific to casein & gluten

was very

accurate and my son scored a zero for both. I am going to ask the pediatrician

about this

because something was giving my son rashes and causing him intestinal pain as a

baby

and me cutting out dairy solved the problem. It could be something else

eliminated when

I cut out dairy. Its hard when there are so many different opinions by people

that are

supposed to specialize in the area. Argh. If my pediatrician can't give me a

good answer I

will try eliminating casein/gluten to see what happens. I wouldn't think a food

intolerance

would cause rashes on a babies face and bad eczema. I find it very confusing!

Angie

> >

> > When my son was two months old I finally figured out he had a dairy

> > allergy (he had

> > bumps all over his face and cried constantly! He would even scream in

> > agony when he

> > farted! Once I eliminated dairy from my diet he was wonderful. Hardly any

> > crying and no

> > face rash. If I added any, even in small portions, he would be really

> > fussy and have a face

> > rash. He had obvious tummy trouble with gas etc. with the dairy. I

> > couldn't have any dairy

> > even if it was a small ingredient or he would become fussy & have face

> > rash. I eventually

> > put him on a type of formula that was supposed to be for dairy intolerance

> > (still dairy, but

> > had removed the part babies were sensitive to.) He still had horrible

> > trouble. Then I went

> > to soy and he had no trouble (and refused breast milk from that point on.)

> > Recently my

> > son had a caesin (sp?) and gluten blood test (called RAST?) On a

> > sensitivity scale of 0 - 6 (I

> > think it was six as a high) he essentially scored a 0. I have heard this

> > test is very reliable.

> > Now I know my son was allergic to something as an infant not just because

> > of the tummy

> > troubles, but because of the horrible face rash which seems to mean there

> > is something

> > more than simply not handling it well (like some people can't handle spicy

> > food.) My son

> > was reintroduced to dairy at one and seems fine with it. So here is my

> > question. What

> > else could have been eliminated from my diet with the dairy elimination? I

> > know

> > that he was a changed kid w/o me eating dairy while breast feeding--no

> > doubt a huge

> > change for the better. My son has severe allergies to mold and cats and

> > asthma. It fits

> > that food could be a cause of some of his issues as suggested by those on

> > caesin/gluten

> > free diets. I just can't figure out the dairy thing if my son scored

> > essentially a 0 for

> > allergens? There must have been something else eliminated w/o me realizing

> > it. He also

> > scored essentially 0 for gluten allergy. The scores were shocking to both

> > the allergist and

> > me considering his history. Any ideas? I know my son is having some tummy

> > troube (no

> > rashes though.) Since the caesin/gluten free diet is big I thought someone

> > may be able to

> > help me figure it out. My son is only three and a very picky eater so food

> > elimination diet

> > won't work (he is also under weight for his height.) I would love to hear

> > any ideas! If

> > caesin and gluten do it for some kids...why not some other ingredients? At

> > least that is

> > the assumption Im going with as I try to figure it out.

> > Thanks

> > Angie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I would love to have these recipes - Hope does a GF diet, she refuses all dairy so I guess she is technically on a gfcf diet. I am a vegetarian (except for once per month california burrito). She really loves her protein, but I am always looking for GF recipes.Avian Rights <avianrights@...> wrote: Hi Angie, Dairy products can actually cause asthma. He is probably still allergic to it, but grew out of the acute reactions. I have a feeling if you cut ALL dairy out of his

diet his asthma will get much better. I have also heard that dairy and gluten, if the child is allergic to them, can have opiate effects on the child, causing their motor skills to worsen and their attention waiver. Meat can also do this to children, no to mention clogging their arteries and pumping them full of hormones, antibiotics, and loads of other nasty stuff. If I were in your shoes, I'd take him to the doctor to get the OK for a gluten-free vegan diet. If you need help with recipes, just email me! I've got loads of them, and our little guy is 9 years old, 4'10" and 115lbs- so he is certainly not missing anything! We do take a vegetarian multi and colloidal silver just to cover our bases though. On 1/10/07, Angie <kayak_krazi > wrote: When my son was two months old I finally figured out he had a dairy allergy (he had bumps all over his face and cried constantly! He would even scream in agony when he farted! Once I eliminated dairy from my diet he was wonderful. Hardly any crying and no face rash. If I added any, even in small portions, he would be really fussy and have a face rash. He had obvious tummy trouble with gas etc. with the dairy. I couldn't have any dairy even if it was a small ingredient or he would become fussy & have face rash. I eventually put him on a type of formula that was supposed to be for dairy intolerance (still dairy, but had removed the part babies were sensitive to.) He still had horrible trouble. Then I went to soy and he had no trouble (and refused breast milk from that point on.) Recently my son had a

caesin (sp?) and gluten blood test (called RAST?) On a sensitivity scale of 0 - 6 (I think it was six as a high) he essentially scored a 0. I have heard this test is very reliable. Now I know my son was allergic to something as an infant not just because of the tummy troubles, but because of the horrible face rash which seems to mean there is something more than simply not handling it well (like some people can't handle spicy food.) My son was reintroduced to dairy at one and seems fine with it. So here is my question. What else could have been eliminated from my diet with the dairy elimination? I know that he was a changed kid w/o me eating dairy while breast feeding--no doubt a huge change for the better. My son has severe allergies to mold and cats and asthma. It fits that food could be a cause of some of his issues as suggested by those on caesin/gluten free diets. I just can't figure out the dairy thing if my son scored

essentially a 0 for allergens? There must have been something else eliminated w/o me realizing it. He also scored essentially 0 for gluten allergy. The scores were shocking to both the allergist and me considering his history. Any ideas? I know my son is having some tummy troube (no rashes though.) Since the caesin/gluten free diet is big I thought someone may be able to help me figure it out. My son is only three and a very picky eater so food elimination diet won't work (he is also under weight for his height.) I would love to hear any ideas! If caesin and gluten do it for some kids...why not some other ingredients? At least that is the assumption Im going with as I try to figure it out.ThanksAngie-- Don't Breed, Don't Buy, Adopt! www.avianwelfare.org ______________________________________________________________ "I want to be part of the solution. Not part of the agonizing, grinding, boring complacent problem..." Henry Rollins; From "I hate U2"

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Hi Theresa,

The minerals we take are " NOW " brand Colloidal Minerals, in raspberry

flavor. They're very good mixed with ginger ale, and they really knock

out a cold when you feel one coming on.

We actually do take less than the recommended amounts of all the

supplements, because we do get a lot of what we need through eating

healthy, fresh, whole foods. Since neither his father nor I are

dieticians, we take the supplements on occasion to make up for what we

don't know we might be missing. And if we are getting everything we

need through our diet, a little extra once in a while can't hurt.

As with anything else, obviously diet and supplements need to be

implemented with common sense.

Our child hasn't needed his inhaler unless he was sick since he

significantly decreased his consumption of dairy products. Since he

went mostly vegan about a year ago (his biological mother forces him

to drink milk and makes him sob and ask for soy- she refuses to buy

him soy), his balance and attention have become much better. He's

still a far cry from " normal " but he has done much better for himself.

He falls down significantly less now than he used to- he'd just be

standing there and fall over. He fell yesterday for the first time in

nearly a year- and granted, we'd just seen The Polar Express in 3-D at

the I-MAX and he said it made him dizzy. He also is still forced to

eat dairy products at his mother's house, so maybe that accounts for

it. It's so hard to tell what's just normal catching up with aging, or

whether what we're doing is actually working, but it sure seems like

since he went vegetarian a lot more things are " clicking " with him.

It's certainly enough to convince me.

On 1/13/07, Theresa Mesa <clanmesa@...> wrote:

> My sister has celiac sprue and needs to be on a gluten-free diet or

> she'll die. Forget opiate properties. Until my sister was diagnosed,

> she looked like a corpse that didn't have the good grace to go lie

> down somewhere. There's a magazine out there called " Living Without. "

> It's for people who need to keep certain items out of their diet.

> Lots of recipes and sources for gluten-free foods.

>

> http://www.livingwithout.com/welcome.htm

>

> Research the use of colloidal silver. Your body just needs trace

> amounts of various elements, and if you ingest too much silver over a

> long period of time, your skin will actually start to turn

> permanently " silver, " or gray. It doesn't go away. it is not

> treatable. It is irreversible. It's be a shame to not only have to

> deal with autism, but permanently silver skin, too.

>

> http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/index.htm

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver

> http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html

> http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f02/web2/ctraversi.html

> http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00971.html

> http://www.together.net/~rjstan/rose2.html

> http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/

> col_0289.shtml

> http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm

>

> Theresa Mesa

> Mesa Design House

> http://mesadesignhouse.com

> 909-335-9710

> Hours: By appointment only

>

>

> On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Avian Rights wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi Angie,

> >

> > Dairy products can actually cause asthma. He is probably still

> > allergic to it, but grew out of the acute reactions. I have a

> > feeling if you cut ALL dairy out of his diet his asthma will get

> > much better.

> >

> > I have also heard that dairy and gluten, if the child is allergic

> > to them, can have opiate effects on the child, causing their motor

> > skills to worsen and their attention waiver. Meat can also do this

> > to children, no to mention clogging their arteries and pumping them

> > full of hormones, antibiotics, and loads of other nasty stuff. If I

> > were in your shoes, I'd take him to the doctor to get the OK for a

> > gluten-free vegan diet. If you need help with recipes, just email

> > me! I've got loads of them, and our little guy is 9 years old,

> > 4'10 " and 115lbs- so he is certainly not missing anything! We do

> > take a vegetarian multi and colloidal silver just to cover our

> > bases though.

> >

>

>

>

--

Don't Breed, Don't Buy, Adopt!

www.avianwelfare.org

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

It has been explained to me that eczema is actually caused by an

imbalance in the GI tract. My fiancee has very bad eczema and is very

lazy about it, but when I can get him to take his probiotics

(acidopholus is good- I spelled it wrong though!), his skin clears up

very quickly.

This is a whole other issue as well as a very personal choice, but I

take diet advice from regular doctors with a grain of salt- these

doctors were trained using the same information source which created

the food pyramid- the USDA. The USDA is the organization which is

largely financed through profits from animal agriculture. Logic tells

me there's a conflict of interest there. I go to a really great doctor

who's trained in " normal " internal medicine, but also does homeopathy.

Now, realizing that many people don't have this option, I think the

real key is to self-educate with uncommon sense... as in keep in mind

the motivations of the author of the literature you are reading or the

person who is speaking to you. These doctors are the same people who

told so many parents that immunizations were harmless. We all know

better in our guts what science has not yet proven (think about

*their* motivations!).

It sounds like you've got a really good head on your shoulders, Angie.

Your son is blessed to have a mother like you.

On 1/13/07, Angie <kayak_krazi@...> wrote:

> I did take my son to a peds. deitition specializing in developmental

> disorders. She said

> putting my son on a resticted diet would be the worse thing I could do

> because he gets all

> of his nutrients from those types of foods and he is such a picky eater. He

> never

> complains about food, but he wont eat when he doesn't like it. He was like

> this since a

> baby. I gave him formula once when he was four months old because he was so

> skinny

> (98% for height and 20% for weight.) I thought I would supplement formula

> with breast

> milk to see if he would put on some weight. My son never drank breast milk

> again! No

> matter what I did he refused it. If I put it in a bottle, mixed it with

> formula in any quantity

> he refused to drink it. Once he started to become dehydrated I gave up and

> gave him

> formula. Its hard when a kid would rather not eat then to eat a food they

> are not

> interested in. The allergist told me the blood test specific to casein &

> gluten was very

> accurate and my son scored a zero for both. I am going to ask the

> pediatrician about this

> because something was giving my son rashes and causing him intestinal pain

> as a baby

> and me cutting out dairy solved the problem. It could be something else

> eliminated when

> I cut out dairy. Its hard when there are so many different opinions by

> people that are

> supposed to specialize in the area. Argh. If my pediatrician can't give me

> a good answer I

> will try eliminating casein/gluten to see what happens. I wouldn't think a

> food intolerance

> would cause rashes on a babies face and bad eczema. I find it very

> confusing!

>

> Angie

>

>

> > >

> > > When my son was two months old I finally figured out he had a dairy

> > > allergy (he had

> > > bumps all over his face and cried constantly! He would even scream in

> > > agony when he

> > > farted! Once I eliminated dairy from my diet he was wonderful. Hardly

> any

> > > crying and no

> > > face rash. If I added any, even in small portions, he would be really

> > > fussy and have a face

> > > rash. He had obvious tummy trouble with gas etc. with the dairy. I

> > > couldn't have any dairy

> > > even if it was a small ingredient or he would become fussy & have face

> > > rash. I eventually

> > > put him on a type of formula that was supposed to be for dairy

> intolerance

> > > (still dairy, but

> > > had removed the part babies were sensitive to.) He still had horrible

> > > trouble. Then I went

> > > to soy and he had no trouble (and refused breast milk from that point

> on.)

> > > Recently my

> > > son had a caesin (sp?) and gluten blood test (called RAST?) On a

> > > sensitivity scale of 0 - 6 (I

> > > think it was six as a high) he essentially scored a 0. I have heard this

> > > test is very reliable.

> > > Now I know my son was allergic to something as an infant not just

> because

> > > of the tummy

> > > troubles, but because of the horrible face rash which seems to mean

> there

> > > is something

> > > more than simply not handling it well (like some people can't handle

> spicy

> > > food.) My son

> > > was reintroduced to dairy at one and seems fine with it. So here is my

> > > question. What

> > > else could have been eliminated from my diet with the dairy elimination?

> I

> > > know

> > > that he was a changed kid w/o me eating dairy while breast feeding--no

> > > doubt a huge

> > > change for the better. My son has severe allergies to mold and cats and

> > > asthma. It fits

> > > that food could be a cause of some of his issues as suggested by those

> on

> > > caesin/gluten

> > > free diets. I just can't figure out the dairy thing if my son scored

> > > essentially a 0 for

> > > allergens? There must have been something else eliminated w/o me

> realizing

> > > it. He also

> > > scored essentially 0 for gluten allergy. The scores were shocking to

> both

> > > the allergist and

> > > me considering his history. Any ideas? I know my son is having some

> tummy

> > > troube (no

> > > rashes though.) Since the caesin/gluten free diet is big I thought

> someone

> > > may be able to

> > > help me figure it out. My son is only three and a very picky eater so

> food

> > > elimination diet

> > > won't work (he is also under weight for his height.) I would love to

> hear

> > > any ideas! If

> > > caesin and gluten do it for some kids...why not some other ingredients?

> At

> > > least that is

> > > the assumption Im going with as I try to figure it out.

> > > Thanks

> > > Angie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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You have a lot of treatment modalities going on. How do you know what

is helping and what isn't? is it the colloidal silver, or the vegan

diet? Is it the soy or is it another one of the supplements he's

given? Is he doing well because he's NOT receiving something his body

would respond poorly to?

According to the things I've read on silver, the body doesn't even

have a need for it. Yes, it's great topically as an antibacterial,

but that doesn't mean the body requires it, any more than the body

requires amoxicillin to function on a daily basis. As another

example, comfrey is wonderful topically to help with a variety of

skin disorders, but ingested, it is toxic.

Since there's no demonstrated requirement for silver to be ingested

by the human body, and since a **permanent** side effect of ingesting

too much silver is that the skin turns silver, what if you did

EVERYTHING else you're doing and stopped the colloidal minerals?

Would his behavior tank? What if you did what doctors suggest, and

just try one thing at a time so you can evaluate what is helping and

what is not?

I take a bunch of supplements to help with my health problems,

including my heart, but just because someone makes claims for a

particular supplement doesn't mean the supplement is healthy for me.

I research the supplement, and then I err on the side of caution.

After all, there are so many other supplements I can take that don't

have irreversible silver skin as a side effect for something that

hasn't even been proven to be needed by the human body.

My 2 cents.

Theresa Mesa

Mesa Design House

http://mesadesignhouse.com

909-335-9710

Hours: By appointment only

On Jan 16, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Avian Rights wrote:

> Hi Theresa,

>

> The minerals we take are " NOW " brand Colloidal Minerals, in raspberry

> flavor. They're very good mixed with ginger ale, and they really knock

> out a cold when you feel one coming on.

>

> We actually do take less than the recommended amounts of all the

> supplements, because we do get a lot of what we need through eating

> healthy, fresh, whole foods. Since neither his father nor I are

> dieticians, we take the supplements on occasion to make up for what we

> don't know we might be missing. And if we are getting everything we

> need through our diet, a little extra once in a while can't hurt.

>

> As with anything else, obviously diet and supplements need to be

> implemented with common sense.

>

> Our child hasn't needed his inhaler unless he was sick since he

> significantly decreased his consumption of dairy products. Since he

> went mostly vegan about a year ago (his biological mother forces him

> to drink milk and makes him sob and ask for soy- she refuses to buy

> him soy), his balance and attention have become much better. He's

> still a far cry from " normal " but he has done much better for himself.

> He falls down significantly less now than he used to- he'd just be

> standing there and fall over. He fell yesterday for the first time in

> nearly a year- and granted, we'd just seen The Polar Express in 3-D at

> the I-MAX and he said it made him dizzy. He also is still forced to

> eat dairy products at his mother's house, so maybe that accounts for

> it. It's so hard to tell what's just normal catching up with aging, or

> whether what we're doing is actually working, but it sure seems like

> since he went vegetarian a lot more things are " clicking " with him.

> It's certainly enough to convince me.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Angie, Actually children can outgrow the "dairy" which is very often lactose intolerance. I had a similar experience with my youngest who was just recently diagnosed PDD nos when he was a baby and nursing. I eliminated dairy for as long as I could and then weaned him to a soy formula with which he had no issues. Then at about a year, we gradually introduced him to dairy as recommended and he never had any issues. It was explained to me that his body just had to grow and develop more so he could handle and digest the lactose without it causing the reactions it did. (face rash, blood in feces, severe abdominal pain etc.) With my oldest daughter, we did not have any problems UNTIL we weaned her at 1 yr and put her on whole milk (recommended at the time although as with many things, they have changed it since then! lol) She threw up, got a rash,, diaherra, the whole thing. She was NOT lactose intolerant and many doctors would have stopped

there thinking I was overprotective, in fact ours did so I switched and he said, nope, if mom says there is a problem, there is! and kept testing, turns out she was specifially milk protein intolerant. So she could have other dairy products (yogurt, cheese, ice cream) but not milk. He had us give her one small glass of milk every few months until she didn't react to it as he was positive she would outgrow it which she did around 4 as I recall. Now she likes drinking milk but isn't much in to dairy products in general. Kind of funny how peoples bodies seem to "not like" things that may cause them difficulty in digesting. ANYWAY,. I just wanted to point out that as our bodies grow and mature, they often begin to be able to process/handle things that they couldn't when they were less mature. Good luck and God bless! DeeDeeAngie <kayak_krazi@...> wrote: When my son was two months old I finally figured out he had a dairy allergy (he had bumps all over his face and cried constantly! He would even scream in agony when he farted! Once I eliminated dairy from my diet he was wonderful. Hardly any crying and no face rash. If I added any, even in small portions, he would be really fussy and have a face rash. He had obvious tummy trouble with gas etc. with the dairy. I couldn't have any dairy even if it was a small ingredient or he would become fussy & have face rash. I eventually put him on a type of formula

that was supposed to be for dairy intolerance (still dairy, but had removed the part babies were sensitive to.) He still had horrible trouble. Then I went to soy and he had no trouble (and refused breast milk from that point on.) Recently my son had a caesin (sp?) and gluten blood test (called RAST?) On a sensitivity scale of 0 - 6 (I think it was six as a high) he essentially scored a 0. I have heard this test is very reliable. Now I know my son was allergic to something as an infant not just because of the tummy troubles, but because of the horrible face rash which seems to mean there is something more than simply not handling it well (like some people can't handle spicy food.) My son was reintroduced to dairy at one and seems fine with it. So here is my question. What else could have been eliminated from my diet with the dairy elimination? I know that he was a changed kid w/o me eating dairy while breast feeding--no doubt a huge

change for the better. My son has severe allergies to mold and cats and asthma. It fits that food could be a cause of some of his issues as suggested by those on caesin/gluten free diets. I just can't figure out the dairy thing if my son scored essentially a 0 for allergens? There must have been something else eliminated w/o me realizing it. He also scored essentially 0 for gluten allergy. The scores were shocking to both the allergist and me considering his history. Any ideas? I know my son is having some tummy troube (no rashes though.) Since the caesin/gluten free diet is big I thought someone may be able to help me figure it out. My son is only three and a very picky eater so food elimination diet won't work (he is also under weight for his height.) I would love to hear any ideas! If caesin and gluten do it for some kids...why not some other ingredients? At least that is the assumption Im going with as I try to figure it

out.ThanksAngie

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Hi Theresa,

I'm feeling some abrasion from your email. I think that maybe I haven't communicated clearly enough for you to understand what we do, or why we do it. The vegan diet we have is due to ethical and health reasons. That's a completely personal decision to be made- some people think it's natural and healthy to eat animals, others think it's morally wrong and it eventually causes cancer and heart disease. That's besides the point. The point here is that we don't do the vegan thing as a treatment modality. In fact, 's father is not a vegetarian and neither is is bio. mother. I am, and a little more than a year ago decided that he wanted to go vegan so we respect his decision. Neither do we do the vitamins and minerals as treatment modalities- they're just so that we know we're healthy (eating right) and not missing anything (vitamins and minerals).

I think you may have missed the frequency we take the minerals- seriously, it's just a shot's(the cap is about the size of a shot glass) worth a week for the adults and a half a shot a week for the child, who's 5 feet tall and 115 lbs. Hardly enough, I think, to turn our skin silver (there's only a tiny amount in there anyway). If we're starting to get sick we might take twice that much and add in extra vitamin C and ginger ale- and we're healthy again within a day or two. The chewable vitamins are also taken on the weekends, though I feel like we should actually take these more often. Problem is we only have with us Fridays through Tuesdays and we're running around crazy with homework (2-3 hours worth) on weekdays and often forget to take them.

I don't think there's any one cause of Autism, and I don't think there's any one " cure-all " to help with all of our child's symptoms. It really doesn't matter to me at this point which thing is helping him- I think it's a combination of getting the right nutrition for the first time in his life (he had tater tots and frozen french toast sticks for Easter dinner with his mother) and avoiding the gluten. There are certainly other factors at work such as simply growing up a bit more (he's almost ten now) and getting the proper teaching techniques since we moved him into a new school with great teachers.

Regardless, I'm happy to keep doing what we're doing because we're all nutritionally healthy, we rarely get sick, and we enjoy living a more peaceful existence by not eating meat or contributing to the industry. And the chewable vitamins taste really good, too! It works well for our family and we plan to continue living the way we do.

I hope this explains better.

On 1/17/07, Theresa Mesa <clanmesa@...> wrote:

You have a lot of treatment modalities going on. How do you know what is helping and what isn't? is it the colloidal silver, or the vegan diet? Is it the soy or is it another one of the supplements he's given? Is he doing well because he's NOT receiving something his body would respond poorly to?According to the things I've read on silver, the body doesn't even have a need for it. Yes, it's great topically as an antibacterial, but that doesn't mean the body requires it, any more than the body requires amoxicillin to function on a daily basis. As another example, comfrey is wonderful topically to help with a variety of skin disorders, but ingested, it is toxic.

Since there's no demonstrated requirement for silver to be ingested by the human body, and since a **permanent** side effect of ingesting too much silver is that the skin turns silver, what if you did EVERYTHING else you're doing and stopped the colloidal minerals? Would his behavior tank? What if you did what doctors suggest, and just try one thing at a time so you can evaluate what is helping and

what is not?I take a bunch of supplements to help with my health problems, including my heart, but just because someone makes claims for a particular supplement doesn't mean the supplement is healthy for me. I research the supplement, and then I err on the side of caution. After all, there are so many other supplements I can take that don't have irreversible silver skin as a side effect for something that

hasn't even been proven to be needed by the human body.My 2 cents.Theresa MesaMesa Design House

http://mesadesignhouse.com909-335-9710Hours: By appointment only

On Jan 16, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Avian Rights wrote:> Hi Theresa,>> The minerals we take are " NOW " brand Colloidal Minerals, in raspberry> flavor. They're very good mixed with ginger ale, and they really knock

> out a cold when you feel one coming on.>> We actually do take less than the recommended amounts of all the> supplements, because we do get a lot of what we need through eating> healthy, fresh, whole foods. Since neither his father nor I are

> dieticians, we take the supplements on occasion to make up for what we> don't know we might be missing. And if we are getting everything we> need through our diet, a little extra once in a while can't hurt.

>> As with anything else, obviously diet and supplements need to be> implemented with common sense.>> Our child hasn't needed his inhaler unless he was sick since he> significantly decreased his consumption of dairy products. Since he

> went mostly vegan about a year ago (his biological mother forces him> to drink milk and makes him sob and ask for soy- she refuses to buy> him soy), his balance and attention have become much better. He's

> still a far cry from " normal " but he has done much better for himself.> He falls down significantly less now than he used to- he'd just be> standing there and fall over. He fell yesterday for the first time in

> nearly a year- and granted, we'd just seen The Polar Express in 3-D at> the I-MAX and he said it made him dizzy. He also is still forced to> eat dairy products at his mother's house, so maybe that accounts for

> it. It's so hard to tell what's just normal catching up with aging, or> whether what we're doing is actually working, but it sure seems like> since he went vegetarian a lot more things are " clicking " with him.

> It's certainly enough to convince me.>> >

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Hi Angie,This is quite literally what I said about Hope - whose diet consisted of; bread, white rice, cereal - only honey nut cheerios, potatoes, plain, canned green beans and canned peas, and juice.At this point she has hugely improved her eating habits - she eats fresh fruit, fresh vegies, spinach noodles (no wheat), and will at least taste most things. What I have found is that all of the dx's mood disorders, autism etc., are qualified as neuritis which is basically inflammation - the majority of kids in the spectrum have nutrition problems - narrowness of interest in food - digestive problems - indicative of celiac issues - some severe and some not so severe. Hope has refused any type of dairy since she was 10 months old, will not eat peanut butter, anything white other than white rice, and was completely "addicted" to highly processed grains. What I was told (and now believe to be true) is that with spectrum kids - as they generally

already have gastric and digestion problems, the pores in the gut get "stuck" open and the grains/wheat and casein from dairy (since they are larger particles) go straight to the blood stream acting almost like a narcotic - leading to more cravings for the same food that is known to persons in the cutting edge fields of nutrition (keeping in mind that it takes on average - meaning half take longer than this - 19-20 years for new technology and knowledge to make it into the practice of a doctor) will tell you that the diet recommended by the "government" is KNOWN via studies to cause cancer, radical inflammation of all body parts, exhaustion, diabetes and insulin resistance. It took about 3 months for Hope to actually begin eating properly, but I continually re-introduced foods to her. She now has an excellent diet, has started to show increased abilities in concentration, is rarely sick anymore, no longer has any issues with asthma - which is another

inflammatory issue - has lots of energy and increased her language skills not just a little - but as of last April or May had around 10-20 words that she actually used. Right now, I would be hard pressed to tell you how many words she has - I would say in the high hundreds. She is still frustrated by the process and gets hung up trying to verbalize feelings etc., but I truly believed when she was 5 that she would be low functioning forever - which probably was pretty unrealistic, however, even the school nurse got tears in her eyes when at the beginning of the year, Hope went into her office and said Hi Ms. Tara - and made eye contact - she even smiled!!!!! From the little girl who was almost non verbal and had to be on a school day of 1.5 hours because that was the absolute longest that she could hold it together, this is monumental.I too was advised against doing the gfcf diet. We have still almost a year into it - only removed

glutens. I was told that she would become anemic, underweight etc., Hope has always been "chubby" and has actually started to have a normal metabolism. She snacks a lot - but she eats oranges and apples instead of nutri grain bars and cinnamon toast. She is a tall lean, eye contact giving, talking, hugging sweetheart as opposed to the almost non verbal little animalistic person that I had in my house before.I found that the people (on this list primarily) who continued to encourage me with regards to making that very drastic change in her diet empowered me to do this. It took me quite some time to finally commit to it, I even emailed the autism society asking them about it - and researched this issue quite a bit. Come to find out that celiac disease (those who are sensitive to grains in general - and any type of dairy) is underdiagnosed and rampant in our society of highly refined toxic foods. Gluten sensitivity is also more

common than anyone perhaps knows. If it were me, I would take my (your) child into the doc, and ask them to do a C-Reactive Protein test (which tests for any type of inflammation but particularly for food allergen type reactions) along with Rast testing (NOT the kind that they do on the skin of the child, but rather on the blood looking for chemical reactions). It may well be that all of the digestive problems your child is having is related to food issues. It also may be that they aren't - but you won't know until you ask. The only thing that I am hoping to do here is empower another parent the way that I have been empowered by other parents. I wish you the best in this journey through parenting these amazing human beings who can teach us far more than we can ever teach them.Love,Jen - mom to four special kiddosMax 18 - adhd/sid and on his own!!! a radical success story, Molly 15 AS/Mood Disorder/PTSD, SaraCait

10 SEVERE adhd/medically fragile, Asthma and Hope - 6 Autism, GERD, Asthma Angie <kayak_krazi@...> wrote: I did take my son to a peds. deitition specializing in developmental disorders. She said putting my son on a resticted diet would be the worse thing I could do because he gets all of his nutrients from those types of foods and he is such a picky eater. He never complains about food, but he wont eat when he doesn't like it. He was like this since a baby. I gave him formula once when he was four months

old because he was so skinny (98% for height and 20% for weight.) I thought I would supplement formula with breast milk to see if he would put on some weight. My son never drank breast milk again! No matter what I did he refused it. If I put it in a bottle, mixed it with formula in any quantity he refused to drink it. Once he started to become dehydrated I gave up and gave him formula. Its hard when a kid would rather not eat then to eat a food they are not interested in. The allergist told me the blood test specific to casein & gluten was very accurate and my son scored a zero for both. I am going to ask the pediatrician about this because something was giving my son rashes and causing him intestinal pain as a baby and me cutting out dairy solved the problem. It could be something else eliminated when I cut out dairy. Its hard when there are so many different opinions by people that are supposed to

specialize in the area. Argh. If my pediatrician can't give me a good answer I will try eliminating casein/gluten to see what happens. I wouldn't think a food intolerance would cause rashes on a babies face and bad eczema. I find it very confusing! Angie > > > > When my son was two months old I finally figured out he had a dairy > > allergy (he had > > bumps all over his face and cried constantly! He would even scream in > > agony when he > > farted! Once I eliminated dairy from my diet he was wonderful. Hardly any > > crying and no > > face rash. If I

added any, even in small portions, he would be really > > fussy and have a face > > rash. He had obvious tummy trouble with gas etc. with the dairy. I > > couldn't have any dairy > > even if it was a small ingredient or he would become fussy & have face > > rash. I eventually > > put him on a type of formula that was supposed to be for dairy intolerance > > (still dairy, but > > had removed the part babies were sensitive to.) He still had horrible > > trouble. Then I went > > to soy and he had no trouble (and refused breast milk from that point on.) > > Recently my > > son had a caesin (sp?) and gluten blood test (called RAST?) On a > > sensitivity scale of 0 - 6 (I > > think it was six as a high) he essentially scored a 0. I have heard this > > test is very reliable. > > Now I know my son was allergic to

something as an infant not just because > > of the tummy > > troubles, but because of the horrible face rash which seems to mean there > > is something > > more than simply not handling it well (like some people can't handle spicy > > food.) My son > > was reintroduced to dairy at one and seems fine with it. So here is my > > question. What > > else could have been eliminated from my diet with the dairy elimination? I > > know > > that he was a changed kid w/o me eating dairy while breast feeding--no > > doubt a huge > > change for the better. My son has severe allergies to mold and cats and > > asthma. It fits > > that food could be a cause of some of his issues as suggested by those on > > caesin/gluten > > free diets. I just can't figure out the dairy thing if my son scored > > essentially a 0 for

> > allergens? There must have been something else eliminated w/o me realizing > > it. He also > > scored essentially 0 for gluten allergy. The scores were shocking to both > > the allergist and > > me considering his history. Any ideas? I know my son is having some tummy > > troube (no > > rashes though.) Since the caesin/gluten free diet is big I thought someone > > may be able to > > help me figure it out. My son is only three and a very picky eater so food > > elimination diet > > won't work (he is also under weight for his height.) I would love to hear > > any ideas! If > > caesin and gluten do it for some kids...why not some other ingredients? At > > least that is > > the assumption Im going with as I try to figure it out. > > Thanks > > Angie > > > > > > > >

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No abrasion. Just concern. The only treatment modality I am concerned

with is the colloidal minerals, because some of these natural

colloidal minerals can be quite toxic, even in small amounts. Even

the some of the minerals our body has a demonstrated need for or only

in trace amounts. I have nothing at all against a vegan diet and

supplements in general. I couldn't be on a vegan diet myself, but if

you and you family can do it, more power to you!

Theresa Mesa

Mesa Design House

http://mesadesignhouse.com

909-335-9710

Hours: By appointment only

On Jan 18, 2007, at 3:28 PM, Avian Rights wrote:

>

> Hi Theresa,

>

> I'm feeling some abrasion from your email. I think that maybe I

> haven't communicated clearly enough for you to understand what we

> do, or why we do it. The vegan diet we have is due to ethical and

> health reasons. That's a completely personal decision to be made-

> some people think it's natural and healthy to eat animals, others

> think it's morally wrong and it eventually causes cancer and heart

> disease. That's besides the point. The point here is that we don't

> do the vegan thing as a treatment modality. In fact, 's father

> is not a vegetarian and neither is is bio. mother. I am, and a

> little more than a year ago decided that he wanted to go vegan

> so we respect his decision. Neither do we do the vitamins and

> minerals as treatment modalities- they're just so that we know

> we're healthy (eating right) and not missing anything (vitamins and

> minerals).

>

> I think you may have missed the frequency we take the minerals-

> seriously, it's just a shot's(the cap is about the size of a shot

> glass) worth a week for the adults and a half a shot a week for the

> child, who's 5 feet tall and 115 lbs. Hardly enough, I think, to

> turn our skin silver (there's only a tiny amount in there anyway).

> If we're starting to get sick we might take twice that much and add

> in extra vitamin C and ginger ale- and we're healthy again within a

> day or two. The chewable vitamins are also taken on the weekends,

> though I feel like we should actually take these more often.

> Problem is we only have with us Fridays through Tuesdays and

> we're running around crazy with homework (2-3 hours worth) on

> weekdays and often forget to take them.

>

> I don't think there's any one cause of Autism, and I don't think

> there's any one " cure-all " to help with all of our child's

> symptoms. It really doesn't matter to me at this point which thing

> is helping him- I think it's a combination of getting the right

> nutrition for the first time in his life (he had tater tots and

> frozen french toast sticks for Easter dinner with his mother) and

> avoiding the gluten. There are certainly other factors at work such

> as simply growing up a bit more (he's almost ten now) and getting

> the proper teaching techniques since we moved him into a new school

> with great teachers.

>

> Regardless, I'm happy to keep doing what we're doing because we're

> all nutritionally healthy, we rarely get sick, and we enjoy living

> a more peaceful existence by not eating meat or contributing to the

> industry. And the chewable vitamins taste really good, too! It

> works well for our family and we plan to continue living the way we

> do.

>

> I hope this explains better.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, my name is lisa, im new on this site. I have a 10 year old daughter with autism, she is high functioning. she has many problems with foods. she will only eat meats, icecream, and some little snack foods, she wont eat vegetables, she wont eat breakfast or lunch at school, she hasnt in 5 years. just, chicken, fish, porkchops, sausauges, steak, salmon cakes, and icecream, no fruit no vegetables. she will eat mashed potatoes if its in the frozen dinner plate, and the meats have to be cooked very dark and hard. she is 165 lbs, im afraid of diabetes for her, she takes medicine to sleep and antidepresants for anxiety. the we try to introduce new foods to her, but she holds them in her mouth for hours until she likes starts to choke,

so i stopped doing it. what else can i do? helppppppppppp.

Re: Re: Diet question

Hi Angie,This is quite literally what I said about Hope - whose diet consisted of; bread, white rice, cereal - only honey nut cheerios, potatoes, plain, canned green beans and canned peas, and juice.At this point she has hugely improved her eating habits - she eats fresh fruit, fresh vegies, spinach noodles (no wheat), and will at least taste most things. What I have found is that all of the dx's mood disorders, autism etc., are qualified as neuritis which is basically inflammation - the majority of kids in the spectrum have nutrition problems - narrowness of interest in food - digestive problems - indicative of celiac issues - some severe and some not so severe. Hope has refused any type of dairy since she was 10 months old, will not eat peanut butter, anything white other than white rice, and was completely "addicted" to highly processed grains. What I was told (and now believe to be true) is that with spectrum kids - as they generally

already have gastric and digestion problems, the pores in the gut get "stuck" open and the grains/wheat and casein from dairy (since they are larger particles) go straight to the blood stream acting almost like a narcotic - leading to more cravings for the same food that is known to persons in the cutting edge fields of nutrition (keeping in mind that it takes on average - meaning half take longer than this - 19-20 years for new technology and knowledge to make it into the practice of a doctor) will tell you that the diet recommended by the "government" is KNOWN via studies to cause cancer, radical inflammation of all body parts, exhaustion, diabetes and insulin resistance. It took about 3 months for Hope to actually begin eating properly, but I continually re-introduced foods to her. She now has an excellent diet, has started to show increased abilities in concentration, is rarely sick anymore, no longer has any issues with asthma - which is another

inflammatory issue - has lots of energy and increased her language skills not just a little - but as of last April or May had around 10-20 words that she actually used. Right now, I would be hard pressed to tell you how many words she has - I would say in the high hundreds. She is still frustrated by the process and gets hung up trying to verbalize feelings etc., but I truly believed when she was 5 that she would be low functioning forever - which probably was pretty unrealistic, however, even the school nurse got tears in her eyes when at the beginning of the year, Hope went into her office and said Hi Ms. Tara - and made eye contact - she even smiled!!!!! From the little girl who was almost non verbal and had to be on a school day of 1.5 hours because that was the absolute longest that she could hold it together, this is monumental.I too was advised against doing the gfcf diet. We have still almost a year into it - only removed

glutens. I was told that she would become anemic, underweight etc., Hope has always been "chubby" and has actually started to have a normal metabolism. She snacks a lot - but she eats oranges and apples instead of nutri grain bars and cinnamon toast. She is a tall lean, eye contact giving, talking, hugging sweetheart as opposed to the almost non verbal little animalistic person that I had in my house before.I found that the people (on this list primarily) who continued to encourage me with regards to making that very drastic change in her diet empowered me to do this. It took me quite some time to finally commit to it, I even emailed the autism society asking them about it - and researched this issue quite a bit. Come to find out that celiac disease (those who are sensitive to grains in general - and any type of dairy) is underdiagnosed and rampant in our society of highly refined toxic foods. Gluten sensitivity is also more

common than anyone perhaps knows. If it were me, I would take my (your) child into the doc, and ask them to do a C-Reactive Protein test (which tests for any type of inflammation but particularly for food allergen type reactions) along with Rast testing (NOT the kind that they do on the skin of the child, but rather on the blood looking for chemical reactions). It may well be that all of the digestive problems your child is having is related to food issues. It also may be that they aren't - but you won't know until you ask. The only thing that I am hoping to do here is empower another parent the way that I have been empowered by other parents. I wish you the best in this journey through parenting these amazing human beings who can teach us far more than we can ever teach them.Love,Jen - mom to four special kiddosMax 18 - adhd/sid and on his own!!! a radical success story, Molly 15 AS/Mood Disorder/PTSD, SaraCait

10 SEVERE adhd/medically fragile, Asthma and Hope - 6 Autism, GERD, Asthma Angie <kayak_krazi> wrote:

I did take my son to a peds. deitition specializing in developmental disorders. She said putting my son on a resticted diet would be the worse thing I could do because he gets all of his nutrients from those types of foods and he is such a picky eater. He never complains about food, but he wont eat when he doesn't like it. He was like this since a baby. I gave him formula once when he was four months old because he was so skinny (98% for height and 20% for weight.) I thought I would supplement formula with breast milk to see if he would put on some weight. My son never drank breast milk again! No matter what I did he refused it. If I put it in a bottle, mixed it with formula in any quantity he refused to drink it. Once he started to become dehydrated I gave up and gave him formula. Its hard when a kid would rather not eat then to eat a food they are not interested in. The allergist told me the blood test specific to casein &

gluten was very accurate and my son scored a zero for both. I am going to ask the pediatrician about this because something was giving my son rashes and causing him intestinal pain as a baby and me cutting out dairy solved the problem. It could be something else eliminated when I cut out dairy. Its hard when there are so many different opinions by people that are supposed to specialize in the area. Argh. If my pediatrician can't give me a good answer I will try eliminating casein/gluten to see what happens. I wouldn't think a food intolerance would cause rashes on a babies face and bad eczema. I find it very confusing! Angie > >> > When my son was two months old I finally figured out he had a dairy> > allergy (he had> > bumps all over his face and cried constantly! He would even scream in> > agony when he> > farted! Once I eliminated dairy from my diet he was wonderful. Hardly any> > crying and no> > face rash. If I added any, even in small portions, he would be really> > fussy and have a face> > rash. He had obvious tummy trouble with gas etc. with the dairy. I> > couldn't have any dairy> > even if it was a small ingredient or he would become fussy & have face> > rash. I eventually> > put him on a type of formula that was supposed to be for dairy intolerance> > (still dairy, but> > had removed the part babies were sensitive to.) He still had horrible> > trouble. Then I went> > to soy and he had no trouble

(and refused breast milk from that point on.)> > Recently my> > son had a caesin (sp?) and gluten blood test (called RAST?) On a> > sensitivity scale of 0 - 6 (I> > think it was six as a high) he essentially scored a 0. I have heard this> > test is very reliable.> > Now I know my son was allergic to something as an infant not just because> > of the tummy> > troubles, but because of the horrible face rash which seems to mean there> > is something> > more than simply not handling it well (like some people can't handle spicy> > food.) My son> > was reintroduced to dairy at one and seems fine with it. So here is my> > question. What> > else could have been eliminated from my diet with the dairy elimination? I> > know> > that he was a changed kid w/o me eating dairy while breast feeding--no> > doubt a

huge> > change for the better. My son has severe allergies to mold and cats and> > asthma. It fits> > that food could be a cause of some of his issues as suggested by those on> > caesin/gluten> > free diets. I just can't figure out the dairy thing if my son scored> > essentially a 0 for> > allergens? There must have been something else eliminated w/o me realizing> > it. He also> > scored essentially 0 for gluten allergy. The scores were shocking to both> > the allergist and> > me considering his history. Any ideas? I know my son is having some tummy> > troube (no> > rashes though.) Since the caesin/gluten free diet is big I thought someone> > may be able to> > help me figure it out. My son is only three and a very picky eater so food> > elimination diet> > won't work (he is also under weight for his

height.) I would love to hear> > any ideas! If> > caesin and gluten do it for some kids...why not some other ingredients? At> > least that is> > the assumption Im going with as I try to figure it out.> > Thanks> > Angie> >> > > >> > > > -- > > > Don't Breed, Don't Buy, Adopt!> www.avianwelfare. org>

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For us it was not enough. To be honest in the autism community, what starts out

as gluten free turns into casein free, soy free, corn free, sugar free, and it

goes on and on until you are " food free. " We finally had to go the SCD route

(see pecanbread.com). It is a gluten-free diet, but it has more scientific

backing that GF/CF.

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Cassie Redinger <nurse2008@...> wrote:

I have a friend that wants to look into getting food

for her autistic child that is gluten-free and I need

some help. The child is almost four years old. She was

informed by the local health department that if you go

gluten free then it is supposed to help with the

autism.

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I've been reading with great interest about the various diets that eliminate

dairy, sugar, caffiene, wheat, etc, and am about to start one.

A couple of quick questions for those of you that have gone thru it -

1. Does dairy include eggs? THey are a great source of protien for me.

2. The diet allows chicken and fish. What about pork (i.e. pork chops, pulled

pork, etc). Still concerned about protien.

3. What about breakfast cereals that don't contain wheat or wheat gluten? Can

I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain sugar?

(I'll use rice milk instead of regular milk, or just eat them plain with a glass

of water).

4. I know to stay away from processed sugars, like it cookies and breads. What

about the sugars that are in naturally in fruits? Are those OK?

5. Why is red meat not allowed? Once or twice a week I like to throw a steak

on the grill, or cook a hamburger patty (seasoned with only salt and pepper).

I've never had any sort of reaction, unless I used tenerizer with MSG.

6. About how long does it take before you start noticing any improvements (I

know that depends, but how long did it take for you to see any improvements)?

For some reason, I react badly now to tomoatoes, or anything that contains

tomatoes. I also read that spinich is high in histamines, so I'm trying to

avoid salads with those two items for now. Also trying to avoid salad dressings

with vinegar, which seem to trigger some reactions too.

Thanks in advance. Looking forward to any thoughts and comments on this.

Jack

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please see my responses in red, which are from my understanding:1. Does dairy include eggs? THey are a great source of protien for me. no, and organic eggs are best. 2. The diet allows chicken and fish. What about pork (i.e. pork chops, pulled pork, etc). Still concerned about protien. it wasn't on my husband's diet either, but he would have it once in a while. 3. What about breakfast cereals that don't contain wheat or wheat gluten? Can I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain sugar? (I'll use rice milk instead of regular milk, or just eat them plain with a glass of water). i don't think corn or white rice are as nutritious. you might want to try slow cooked oatmeal. if there is a brown rice cereal, that might be ok, but if it comes out of a box, it might not be as healthy. my husband lived on oatmeal and eggs for weeks for breakfast, with fruit once in awhile. actually he continues to only eat that in the morning, but i do make oatmeal cookies (using rolled oats, pamela's gluten/wheat free baking and pancake mix, and agave to sweeten) to mix it up a little! and almond milk would be a great substitute for cow milk. and since you're concerned about getting enough

protein, almonds in any form i think are good: raw, milk, almond butter (which he would eat right out of the jar since he was trying not to eat bread).4. I know to stay away from processed sugars, like it cookies and breads. What about the sugars that are in naturally in fruits? Are those OK? i think so, but you might want to limit these if possible. generally speaking, we have only had grapefruit and pineapple in the house. sugars can also be 'hidden' in many sauces and especially in restaurant cooking. we have become accustomed to reading labels and asking for reduced or no sugar when possible when eating out. 5. Why is red meat not allowed? Once or twice a week I like to throw a steak on the grill, or cook a hamburger patty (seasoned with only salt and

pepper). I've never had any sort of reaction, unless I used tenerizer with MSG. i haven't heard of this being the case. it seems like it might be ok, especially if you can find good quality meat like at whole foods.6. About how long does it take before you start noticing any improvements (I know that depends, but how long did it take for you to see any improvements)? my husband actually started to notice a difference relatively soon after he started his, but we are thinking it is because in addition to the drastic dietary change, he was taking supplements, etc. which probably helped him detox.For some reason, I react badly now to tomoatoes, or anything that contains tomatoes. I also read that spinich

is high in histamines, so I'm trying to avoid salads with those two items for now. Also trying to avoid salad dressings with vinegar, which seem to trigger some reactions too. i have a great salad dressing recipe that includes red wine vinegar, so i just take that out. whisk together olive or canola oil, crushed garlic, salt/pepper.. can add lemon too. sabinaFrom: stuffyintexas <stuffyintexas@...>samters Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 10:55

AMSubject: Diet question

I've been reading with great interest about the various diets that eliminate dairy, sugar, caffiene, wheat, etc, and am about to start one.

A couple of quick questions for those of you that have gone thru it -

1. Does dairy include eggs? THey are a great source of protien for me.

2. The diet allows chicken and fish. What about pork (i.e. pork chops, pulled pork, etc). Still concerned about protien.

3. What about breakfast cereals that don't contain wheat or wheat gluten? Can I eat some sort of corn, rice, or oat based cereal (that doesn't contain sugar? (I'll use rice milk instead of regular milk, or just eat them plain with a glass of water).

4. I know to stay away from processed sugars, like it cookies and breads. What about the sugars that are in naturally in fruits? Are those OK?

5. Why is red meat not allowed? Once or twice a week I like to throw a steak on the grill, or cook a hamburger patty (seasoned with only salt and pepper). I've never had any sort of reaction, unless I used tenerizer with MSG.

6. About how long does it take before you start noticing any improvements (I know that depends, but how long did it take for you to see any improvements)?

For some reason, I react badly now to tomoatoes, or anything that contains tomatoes. I also read that spinich is high in histamines, so I'm trying to avoid salads with those two items for now. Also trying to avoid salad dressings with vinegar, which seem to trigger some reactions too.

Thanks in advance. Looking forward to any thoughts and comments on this.

Jack