Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 There have been lots of posts about irrigation and I wanted to share a recent story with everyone. What I discovered recently was that not only does irrigation matter, but HOW I irrigate matters. I went to Costa Rica for 2 weeks. We were going to be moving around a lot and I decided I did not want to drag my WaterPik around with me, a Neilmed bottle and my syringe bulb would be more convenient. That was the biggest mistake I have ever made. I irrigated twice a day like normal with the Neilmed bottle and/or bulb but within 2 days my nose was plugged up and I couldn't smell a thing. Some of it was allergies. Trees and flowers and grasses bloom there all the time and I have bad pollen allergies. I did what I could and still enjoyed my vacation despite the lack of smell. When I got home, I immediately went back to using my Waterpik twice a day. Within 1 week, I was cleared up and able to smell again! I will never, never, ever go anywhere without it again. I've been fine since I got back, other than pollen season is starting and with it some extra congestion. But I can still smell. Anyway, I just wanted to share that. I thought it was interesting that how I irrigated mattered more than the fact that I did irrigate. K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 That’s really funny. I’ve never tried a NetiPot. I do know that when I started with the WaterPik that I started having improvements and my sinuses have been a ton better since. Even my ENT was surprised that using the WaterPik made such a difference but his comment was “You look great, don’t change anything.” I do also use my WaterPik twice a day and I think if I did it once a day I’d be worse off, so I do agree with you that frequency matters also. It seems how we irrigate like some many others things with Samter’s is person-dependent! Hopefully though this will encourage people who have not found that “thing” that works for them to not give up and to keep looking. K. Re: irrigation Funny but I actually found the opposite -- I had a lot of problems with the WaterPik but the NetiPot works great. I never tried the NetiPot, I just assumed the WaterPik would work great. But for me the polyps are so bad that maybe the WaterPik got fluid where it wasn't supposed to go and caused infections. Now I am pretty well maintained on the NetiPot. I do find the FREQUENCY matters. When I was in the hospital for an unrelated surgery recently I didn't irrigate for a few days and the polyps got MUCH worse. Now sometimes I irrigate 3-4 times a day or even more if I feel the need. It gets a ton of stuff out that does not come out otherwise and really clears ms out. WaterPik or NetiPot don't give me back my sense of smell. Perhaps having had this illness for 20 years and having had so many surgeries it's too late to be able to smell fully ever again ... so if irrigation helps some to smell, that's wonderful!!! I wish I had known about it at the beginning instead of having all these surgeries. Lori > > There have been lots of posts about irrigation and I wanted to share a > recent story with everyone. What I discovered recently was that not > only does irrigation matter, but HOW I irrigate matters. I went to > Costa Rica for 2 weeks. We were going to be moving around a lot and I > decided I did not want to drag my WaterPik around with me, a Neilmed > bottle and my syringe bulb would be more convenient. That was the > biggest mistake I have ever made. I irrigated twice a day like normal > with the Neilmed bottle and/or bulb but within 2 days my nose was > plugged up and I couldn't smell a thing. Some of it was allergies. > Trees and flowers and grasses bloom there all the time and I have bad > pollen allergies. I did what I could and still enjoyed my vacation > despite the lack of smell. > > When I got home, I immediately went back to using my Waterpik twice a > day. Within 1 week, I was cleared up and able to smell again! I will > never, never, ever go anywhere without it again. I've been fine since I > got back, other than pollen season is starting and with it some extra > congestion. But I can still smell. > > Anyway, I just wanted to share that. I thought it was interesting that > how I irrigated mattered more than the fact that I did irrigate. > > K. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Ah, thanks for clarifying -- I stupidly forgot that you said the Neilmed BOTTLE and not the NetiPot. I haven't tried the bottle, but I think the NetiPot probably works better. Question: Are your polyps very small? It may make a difference. If you don't have severe polyps and problems with blockage and scar tissue up in the sinuses like I do, perhaps the risk of infection from the WaterPik is smaller. After a very bad experience I decided the WaterPik was not for someone with my polyp severity, and last year I switched to the NetiPot, and it works great. It's also a hell of a lot less messy, actually (for me). And NOT LOUD!!! I still have my WaterPik if anyone wants to buy one ... I hope people will ALWAYS keep looking for their own answers. Medical illnesses are not cookie cutter. Even breast cancer, which I have had twice, is treated very different ways for different people. Doctors are discovering that maybe part of the reason there is such a high death rate from breast cancer may be because there are so many different forms of breast cancer that they were all treating the same way. Potentially there are different " forms " of Samter's, and certainly different levels of severity, which may affect what works for some. But there are MANY people here who are living proof that symptoms CAN Be improved a lot. Yes, they can. It takes some effort, but I think it is quite worth it! Lori > > > > There have been lots of posts about irrigation and I wanted to > share a > > recent story with everyone. What I discovered recently was that not > > only does irrigation matter, but HOW I irrigate matters. I went to > > Costa Rica for 2 weeks. We were going to be moving around a lot > and I > > decided I did not want to drag my WaterPik around with me, a Neilmed > > bottle and my syringe bulb would be more convenient. That was the > > biggest mistake I have ever made. I irrigated twice a day like > normal > > with the Neilmed bottle and/or bulb but within 2 days my nose was > > plugged up and I couldn't smell a thing. Some of it was allergies. > > Trees and flowers and grasses bloom there all the time and I have > bad > > pollen allergies. I did what I could and still enjoyed my vacation > > despite the lack of smell. > > > > When I got home, I immediately went back to using my Waterpik twice > a > > day. Within 1 week, I was cleared up and able to smell again! I > will > > never, never, ever go anywhere without it again. I've been fine > since I > > got back, other than pollen season is starting and with it some > extra > > congestion. But I can still smell. > > > > Anyway, I just wanted to share that. I thought it was interesting > that > > how I irrigated mattered more than the fact that I did irrigate. > > > > K. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I ordered mine from Amazon.com. K. Re: Re: irrigation Can someone tell me where you would typically find the nasal attachment for the Water Pik? I've called several pharmacies in my town and no one carries it. Jane phymphya <nkrich@...> wrote: > > >> > > >> Ah, thanks for clarifying -- I stupidly forgot that you said the > > >> Neilmed BOTTLE and not the NetiPot. I haven't tried the bottle, > > > but > > >> I think the NetiPot probably works better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Again Truelori > > > My ENT asked me to trial the Neilmed and I have come up with the > > > (Pretty Lame,)following ; > > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > NeilMed SinuRinse > > > > > > · Low-pressure squeeze bottle good for clearing pollutants from > > > nasal passages. > > > · Squeeze bottle flow not sustained enough for removing crusts. > > > · Squeeze bottle easy to use. > > > · Bottle not easy to fill. > > > · Sachet mix is not complex. > > > · Sachet mix is a fairly expensive solution. > > > · Sachet convenient if only one is needed. > > > · Sachet is not so easy to fill. > > > > > > Conclusion; > > > Basic system which operates well for clearing pollutants, but given > > > the need for sterile water, scissors, funnels, etc. is unnecessarily > > > complex in use. > > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > > > Does anyone agree/disagree, or have anything to add? > > > > > > Regards > > > B > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 www.nationalallergy.com has everything you could ever need for irrigating. they are a great company. > > > >> > > > >> Ah, thanks for clarifying -- I stupidly forgot that you said > the > > > >> Neilmed BOTTLE and not the NetiPot. I haven't tried the bottle, > > > > but > > > >> I think the NetiPot probably works better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Again Truelori > > > > My ENT asked me to trial the Neilmed and I have come up with the > > > > (Pretty Lame,)following ; > > > > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > NeilMed SinuRinse > > > > > > > > · Low-pressure squeeze bottle good for clearing pollutants from > > > > nasal passages. > > > > · Squeeze bottle flow not sustained enough for removing crusts. > > > > · Squeeze bottle easy to use. > > > > · Bottle not easy to fill. > > > > · Sachet mix is not complex. > > > > · Sachet mix is a fairly expensive solution. > > > > · Sachet convenient if only one is needed. > > > > · Sachet is not so easy to fill. > > > > > > > > Conclusion; > > > > Basic system which operates well for clearing pollutants, but > given > > > > the need for sterile water, scissors, funnels, etc. is > unnecessarily > > > > complex in use. > > > > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > > > > > Does anyone agree/disagree, or have anything to add? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 My ENT gave me mine. I have a used one available that can be sterilized and sent for the cost of shipping PamOn Mar 15, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Jane Marino wrote:Can someone tell me where you would typically find the nasal attachment for the Water Pik? I've called several pharmacies in my town and no one carries it.Janephymphya <nkrich@...> wrote:> > >>> > >> Ah, thanks for clarifying -- I stupidly forgot that you said the> > >> Neilmed BOTTLE and not the NetiPot. I haven't tried the bottle,> > > but> > >> I think the NetiPot probably works better.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hello Again Truelori> > > My ENT asked me to trial the Neilmed and I have come up with the> > > (Pretty Lame,)following ;> > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo> > > NeilMed SinuRinse> > >> > > · Low-pressure squeeze bottle good for clearing pollutants from> > > nasal passages.> > > · Squeeze bottle flow not sustained enough for removing crusts.> > > · Squeeze bottle easy to use.> > > · Bottle not easy to fill.> > > · Sachet mix is not complex.> > > · Sachet mix is a fairly expensive solution.> > > · Sachet convenient if only one is needed.> > > · Sachet is not so easy to fill.> > >> > > Conclusion;> > > Basic system which operates well for clearing pollutants, but given> > > the need for sterile water, scissors, funnels, etc. is unnecessarily> > > complex in use.> > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo> > >> > > Does anyone agree/disagree, or have anything to add?> > >> > > Regards> > > B> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you are talking about. I don't use the NeilMed bottle. I use a NetiPot. I don't know what you are talking about regarding scissors, funnels and sterile water. I also don't know what crusts are exactly -- I mean, I think I do, but I don't really know where you get them that they would need to be removed and that some other method could get rid of them. I don't think the NeilMed is that expensive, actually. But sure, you can make your own. Some people do. I find the particular mix to work very well for me. I don't like other brands, I have tried othres and I like the NeilMed the best. I find another, such as SinuRinse, I think it's called, too irritating and burning. The NeilMed is more soothing. I don't know why you would need more than one packet. I only use one packet at a time. It's about 10 bucks for 100 packets, so if I use 1- 2 a day, it lasts about two months. Five bucks a month doesn't seem very expensive to me. I don't know what you mean by the sachet not being easy to fill, because quiet honestly I guess I don't know what a sachet is. Like I said, I use a NetiPot. It's very easy to fill. I use tap water. Lori > Hello Again Truelori > My ENT asked me to trial the Neilmed and I have come up with the > (Pretty Lame,)following ; > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > NeilMed SinuRinse > > · Low-pressure squeeze bottle good for clearing pollutants from > nasal passages. > · Squeeze bottle flow not sustained enough for removing crusts. > · Squeeze bottle easy to use. > · Bottle not easy to fill. > · Sachet mix is not complex. > · Sachet mix is a fairly expensive solution. > · Sachet convenient if only one is needed. > · Sachet is not so easy to fill. > > Conclusion; > Basic system which operates well for clearing pollutants, but given > the need for sterile water, scissors, funnels, etc. is unnecessarily > complex in use. > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > Does anyone agree/disagree, or have anything to add? > > Regards > B > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 The onion juice doesn't sting when I use it, and it still seemed to work. I don't know why it works, but it does. But I only have used it twice when I was developing infections. I don't use it normally. I just couldn't tolerate the Sinucleanse. Ken, Sinucleanse is nothing like Sinusbusters or anything like that, it's basically the same as irrigating with self-made solution or the NeilMed packets or whatever, it's just that it's a different ratio of the two ingredients (table salt and baking soda), and in my case it stung too much to use it at all. It just happened to be what came with my Neti-Pot. I don't know what the ratios are, but the Sinucleanse burns. The NeilMed says it's pH balanced, so maybe that's why it does not sting. I don't know. Anyway, they are both basically simple saline solution plus baking soda made from packets. Nothing fancy. I just find the convenience of the packets to work for me. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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