Re: thyroid testing

January 25, 2001

Ricci:

We took Craig to see Dr. Holmes in late November and will start DMSA

tommorrow. She tested his thyroid as I was concerned about it and the

results indicated it was normal. People keep referring to a standard

protocol that she is using, but she really does spell out a slightly

different plan for each child.

Joyce

[ ] Re: Is Chelation the " Cure " for Autism?

> Jo,

> Is Amy doing thyroid panels on her patients? I ask this because what

> you describe with the outer part of the eyebrow missing and the pale

> skin is CLASSIC for hypothyroidism. I would be curious to know if she

> is doing thyroid panels and whether they are changing with chelation.

>

> Ricci

>

> JPiker@a... wrote:

> > I just got back from a great appt. with Dr. Amy Holmes. She

> feels like

> > she can recover the most severe autism, it may just take longer. I

> talked to

> > some parents in the waiting room who said their son stopped walking

> when he

> > was 2 1/2. After starting chelation, he's walking (actually running

> around

> > the waiting room) and they said he's sleeping at night for the first

> time. He

> > looked like he was about 7 years old. They've been seeing Dr. Holmes

> since

> > May. She did say that she's fully chelated the 1 and 2 year olds and

> they're

> > recovered but hasn't finished with any 3 year olds yet but she's

> only been

> > doing this for 10 mos. I can't wait to get all of his tests back.

> They did

> > call today and said his Glucose was 234 with 70-110 being normal.

> We'll have

> > him tested tomorrow. He's had a virus with a high fever. Could this

> be why

> > it's so high? She said something interesting about his eyebrows

> which I

> > didn't know. He's missing about a 1/4 of the outside of his

> eyebrows. She

> > said this can be a sign of mercury poisoning. Also he's very pale.

> She said

> > her son was the same way and now his eyebrows have fully grown in

> and he's no

> > longer pale. I have one question, why isn't everyone doing chelation

> if this

> > is indeed the cure? Was Dr. Holme's son the first child to be

> chelated

> > successfully? I'm so excited about starting chelation but can't

> understand

> > why everyone isn't looking into this more. Don't they realize that

> this

> > really could be the cure for autism?

> >

> > Jo (South Carolina)

>

January 25, 2001

Thanks, Joyce. I was pretty sure Amy was doing thyroid testing on

all her patients.

Ricci

<joycemacfarlane@h...> wrote:

> Ricci:

>

> We took Craig to see Dr. Holmes in late November and will start DMSA

> tommorrow. She tested his thyroid as I was concerned about it and

the

> results indicated it was normal. People keep referring to a standard

> protocol that she is using, but she really does spell out a slightly

> different plan for each child.

>

> Joyce

> [ ] Re: Is Chelation the " Cure " for Autism?

>

> > Jo,

> > Is Amy doing thyroid panels on her patients? I ask this because

what

> > you describe with the outer part of the eyebrow missing and the

pale

> > skin is CLASSIC for hypothyroidism. I would be curious to know if

she

> > is doing thyroid panels and whether they are changing with

chelation.

> >

> > Ricci

> >

> > JPiker@a... wrote:

> > > I just got back from a great appt. with Dr. Amy Holmes. She

> > feels like

> > > she can recover the most severe autism, it may just take longer.

I

> > talked to

> > > some parents in the waiting room who said their son stopped

walking

> > when he

> > > was 2 1/2. After starting chelation, he's walking (actually

running

> > around

> > > the waiting room) and they said he's sleeping at night for the

first

> > time. He

> > > looked like he was about 7 years old. They've been seeing Dr.

Holmes

> > since

> > > May. She did say that she's fully chelated the 1 and 2 year olds

and

> > they're

> > > recovered but hasn't finished with any 3 year olds yet but she's

> > only been

> > > doing this for 10 mos. I can't wait to get all of his tests

back.

> > They did

> > > call today and said his Glucose was 234 with 70-110 being

normal.

> > We'll have

> > > him tested tomorrow. He's had a virus with a high fever. Could

this

> > be why

> > > it's so high? She said something interesting about his eyebrows

> > which I

> > > didn't know. He's missing about a 1/4 of the outside of his

> > eyebrows. She

> > > said this can be a sign of mercury poisoning. Also he's very

pale.

> > She said

> > > her son was the same way and now his eyebrows have fully grown

in

> > and he's no

> > > longer pale. I have one question, why isn't everyone doing

chelation

> > if this

> > > is indeed the cure? Was Dr. Holme's son the first child to be

> > chelated

> > > successfully? I'm so excited about starting chelation but can't

> > understand

> > > why everyone isn't looking into this more. Don't they realize

that

> > this

> > > really could be the cure for autism?

> > >

> > > Jo (South Carolina)

> >

January 26, 2001

What exactly is the thyroid test called. Maybe my son did get it.

Jo (South Carolina)

January 26, 2001

In a message dated 1/26/01 8:17:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, JPiker@... writes:

What exactly is the thyroid test called. Maybe my son did get it.

I believe it is usually listed as a thyroid panel.

January 26, 2001

Dr. Holmes did not do a thyroid panel on my son. What is the Hepatic

Panel testing for?

Jo (South Carolina)

January 26, 2001

Hepatic is for testing the liver function.

Re: [ ] Re: thyroid testing

> Dr. Holmes did not do a thyroid panel on my son. What is the Hepatic

> Panel testing for?

>

> Jo (South Carolina)

>

May 9, 2005

Hello Shari

Good quote from Medicinenet.com on sinus tachycardia: " Sinus tachycardia is

usually due to stress, exercise, fever, pain, anxiety, high thyroid hormone

levels, caffeine, and stimulant drugs such as cocaine, amphetamines or

decongestants. "

If the condition comes and goes abruptly you may have what's called

paroxysmal atrial tachycardia, or PAT: " bouts of rapid, regular heart beats

originating in the atrium (upper chamber of the heart). PAT consists of

periods of very rapid and regular heart beats that begin and end abruptly.

During the bouts of PAT, the heart rate typically speeds up to 160-to-200

beats per minute.

" PAT is due to abnormalities in the AV node " relay station " that lead to

rapid firing of electrical impulses from the atrium which bypass the AV node

under certain conditions. " Certain conditions " include alcohol excess, too

much stress, the intake of caffeine (including that in Coke and other

colas), the presence of hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid) and excessive

thyroid hormone intake. Some drugs can also trigger PAT. "

As you can see, there's overlap between sinus and paroxysmal atrial

tachycardia; the latter is more often a problem intrinsic to the heart

itself, but they both can be caused by external factors. In either case it's

well worth ruling out hyperthyroidism, since it's fairly common and

treatable, though other causes need to be considered as well. If it turns

out to be sinus tach, then excess coffee consumption is the most likely

culprit, followed by stress.

Though there's been a lot of concern about IM possibly affecting the thyroid

gland, I've seen no data to suggest that it does, so if this is a thyroid

problem, it's probably independent of your CML.

The good news is that neither sinus tach nor PAT tend to be life

threatening. Good luck figuring it out.

Yours,

R

> Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 06:47:21 -0000

> From: " shari3059 " <shari3059@...>

> Subject: thyroid testing

>

> I know the subject of thyroid testing has come up before in the

> group. I will be tested for a thyroid problem on Monday. I went to

> my regular Dr. who is an internist on Friday because off and on for a

> while now I have been having irregular heart beats and the feeling

> that my heart is fluttering. I had mentioned it to my local

> oncologist and to Dr. Faderl at MDACC and neither one really said

> anything. When I called my Dr. he said come in right now. When I

> got there they listened and he could hear it and they also did an EKG

> which it also showed up on. He said it was a Sinus Tachycardia. He

> said something else he felt was causing this to happen. Also my

> pulse was a little high, and I also feel out of breath. I went to

> bed Friday night with it still happening and when I woke up on

> Saturday morning it was gone. He said if the thyroid test doesn't

> show anything he will order an echocardiagram, and if that doesn't

> show anything I might need to wear a monitor for a while. Has anyone

> every heard of a sinus tachycardia? I can't remember exactly when

> this problem started but it could be on and off for a year now. This

> last episode lasted 2 days. If anyone has any input on this I would

> appreciate it.

>

> Shari from Kansas

>

> dx feb 03

> gleevec 400mg

> pcr 0.09

May 9, 2005

Thanks , I did finally find some information reguarding sinus

tach, I have always known that if I was in a situation where I had

to speak in public, or in school give a book report out loud, I would

have anxiety attacks. I still have those but not very often. I do

drink coffee 4-5 cups a day. I had recently started walking on my

treadmill again, and had taken decongestants and I have used nose

spray for 10 years or longer. I mostly noticed it when I was still,

and sitting down. My blood pressure was very good but my pulse was

106 and I could feel fluttering and jumping or my heart. When I went

to the Dr. it was 148/89 pulse 153, and I could definitly feel that.

I also have white coat syndrome so its always alot worse at the Drs.

office. I really don't think it is a thyroid problem, but I guess it

will rule that out. I'm also I having a chest x-ray on Monday.

Thanks for your response and I will post when I get some results back.

Shari from Kansas

> Hello Shari

>

> Good quote from Medicinenet.com on sinus tachycardia: " Sinus

tachycardia is

> usually due to stress, exercise, fever, pain, anxiety, high thyroid

hormone

> levels, caffeine, and stimulant drugs such as cocaine, amphetamines

or

> decongestants. "

>

> If the condition comes and goes abruptly you may have what's called

> paroxysmal atrial tachycardia, or PAT: " bouts of rapid, regular

heart beats

> originating in the atrium (upper chamber of the heart). PAT

consists of

> periods of very rapid and regular heart beats that begin and end

abruptly.

> During the bouts of PAT, the heart rate typically speeds up to 160-

to-200

> beats per minute.

>

> " PAT is due to abnormalities in the AV node " relay station " that

lead to

> rapid firing of electrical impulses from the atrium which bypass

the AV node

> under certain conditions. " Certain conditions " include alcohol

excess, too

> much stress, the intake of caffeine (including that in Coke and

other

> colas), the presence of hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid) and

excessive

> thyroid hormone intake. Some drugs can also trigger PAT. "

>

> As you can see, there's overlap between sinus and paroxysmal atrial

> tachycardia; the latter is more often a problem intrinsic to the

heart

> itself, but they both can be caused by external factors. In either

case it's

> well worth ruling out hyperthyroidism, since it's fairly common and

> treatable, though other causes need to be considered as well. If

it turns

> out to be sinus tach, then excess coffee consumption is the most

likely

> culprit, followed by stress.

>

> Though there's been a lot of concern about IM possibly affecting

the thyroid

> gland, I've seen no data to suggest that it does, so if this is a

thyroid

> problem, it's probably independent of your CML.

>

> The good news is that neither sinus tach nor PAT tend to be life

> threatening. Good luck figuring it out.

>

> Yours,

>

> R

>

> > Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 06:47:21 -0000

> > From: " shari3059 " <shari3059@y...>

> > Subject: thyroid testing

> >

> > I know the subject of thyroid testing has come up before in the

> > group. I will be tested for a thyroid problem on Monday. I went

to

> > my regular Dr. who is an internist on Friday because off and on

for a

> > while now I have been having irregular heart beats and the feeling

> > that my heart is fluttering. I had mentioned it to my local

> > oncologist and to Dr. Faderl at MDACC and neither one really said

> > anything. When I called my Dr. he said come in right now. When I

> > got there they listened and he could hear it and they also did an

EKG

> > which it also showed up on. He said it was a Sinus Tachycardia.

He

> > said something else he felt was causing this to happen. Also my

> > pulse was a little high, and I also feel out of breath. I went to

> > bed Friday night with it still happening and when I woke up on

> > Saturday morning it was gone. He said if the thyroid test doesn't

> > show anything he will order an echocardiagram, and if that doesn't

> > show anything I might need to wear a monitor for a while. Has

anyone

> > every heard of a sinus tachycardia? I can't remember exactly when

> > this problem started but it could be on and off for a year now.

This

> > last episode lasted 2 days. If anyone has any input on this I

would

> > appreciate it.

> >

> > Shari from Kansas

> >

> > dx feb 03

> > gleevec 400mg

> > pcr 0.09

May 9, 2005