Trying it out...have a question

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Hi again everyone. I've been " trying out " some of the new information that I

learned at the Post/Dyn Reflex course and I have a question.

I recently tried looking at some of the foot reflexes with one of my little

guys. I started with looking at the babinsky and attempted a few times to look

at leg cross flexion). He is going into what I think is toe grasp (Not sure b/c

this reflex was only mentioned in my course...not directly instructed on) almost

all the time (in response to almost all sensory stim on the foot). He doesn't

" walk on his toes " (which is common with my kids) but he has his toes curled

under alot if not all the time. He did have a little babinsky reaction with

his big toe clearly jerking inwards and up initially. However, when he walks

barefooted or most of the time we were attempting to do anything with his feet -

his toes were curling under and he was pulling his foot away/jerking at the

knee.

We started just trying to do the passive sensory stim for babinsky as well as

the passive motor pattern integration excersices (with the pattern and against

where you simply hold the foot in position for 7 seconds without any resistance

from the child). He was very active and not exactly a willing participant but

we did manage to find some creative ways to preoccupy him and I really think his

reaction seemed to lessen as we worked. It didn't go away.....just not as

overt.

My concern - since he's going into toe grasp - is should I even be working on

Babinsky??? Since we didn't cover toe grasp in my course, I'm not sure what I

would do for toe grasp and I'm not completely clear on how to choose where to

start given this reaction. I;m pretty certain that he would go into toe grasp

if provided the sensory stim for that reflex....I just don't know where exactly

that point is.

Should I do nothing...is it ok to work on Babinsky?

I hope it is ok to ask these types of questions. I do not have access to anyone

locally that I can think this through with. I'm hoping someone on this group

can give me some insights and/or direction.

Thanks in advance!! VR

[Guest guest]

Yes continue the babinski. It balances the toe grasp. You can not grasp when you pattern a good babinski response . Diane Whiteside Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 18, 2011, at 8:12 PM, "Vicky Roy" <vposton22@...> wrote:

Hi again everyone. I've been "trying out" some of the new information that I learned at the Post/Dyn Reflex course and I have a question.

I recently tried looking at some of the foot reflexes with one of my little guys. I started with looking at the babinsky and attempted a few times to look at leg cross flexion). He is going into what I think is toe grasp (Not sure b/c this reflex was only mentioned in my course...not directly instructed on) almost all the time (in response to almost all sensory stim on the foot). He doesn't "walk on his toes" (which is common with my kids) but he has his toes curled under alot if not all the time. He did have a little babinsky reaction with his big toe clearly jerking inwards and up initially. However, when he walks barefooted or most of the time we were attempting to do anything with his feet - his toes were curling under and he was pulling his foot away/jerking at the knee.

We started just trying to do the passive sensory stim for babinsky as well as the passive motor pattern integration excersices (with the pattern and against where you simply hold the foot in position for 7 seconds without any resistance from the child). He was very active and not exactly a willing participant but we did manage to find some creative ways to preoccupy him and I really think his reaction seemed to lessen as we worked. It didn't go away.....just not as overt.

My concern - since he's going into toe grasp - is should I even be working on Babinsky??? Since we didn't cover toe grasp in my course, I'm not sure what I would do for toe grasp and I'm not completely clear on how to choose where to start given this reaction. I;m pretty certain that he would go into toe grasp if provided the sensory stim for that reflex....I just don't know where exactly that point is.

Should I do nothing...is it ok to work on Babinsky?

I hope it is ok to ask these types of questions. I do not have access to anyone locally that I can think this through with. I'm hoping someone on this group can give me some insights and/or direction.

Thanks in advance!! VR

[Guest guest]

Diane always had good guidance and I don't want in any way to detract from that.  I just wanted to make the point that I don't think you can really go wrong working these reflexes.  Even in those who are doing " fine " in life, it is like a tune-up.  I have found that even though I needed to focus on certain reflexes, working with other reflexes supported their function/improvement.  Hope this makes some sense. (Remember, though, that Moro/Fear Paralysis need to be limited.)

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Diane Whiteside <dianewt3@...> wrote:

 

Yes continue the babinski. It balances the toe grasp. You can not grasp when you pattern a good babinski response . Diane Whiteside Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 18, 2011, at 8:12 PM, " Vicky Roy " <vposton22@...> wrote:

 

Hi again everyone. I've been " trying out " some of the new information that I learned at the Post/Dyn Reflex course and I have a question.

I recently tried looking at some of the foot reflexes with one of my little guys. I started with looking at the babinsky and attempted a few times to look at leg cross flexion). He is going into what I think is toe grasp (Not sure b/c this reflex was only mentioned in my course...not directly instructed on) almost all the time (in response to almost all sensory stim on the foot). He doesn't " walk on his toes " (which is common with my kids) but he has his toes curled under alot if not all the time. He did have a little babinsky reaction with his big toe clearly jerking inwards and up initially. However, when he walks barefooted or most of the time we were attempting to do anything with his feet - his toes were curling under and he was pulling his foot away/jerking at the knee.

We started just trying to do the passive sensory stim for babinsky as well as the passive motor pattern integration excersices (with the pattern and against where you simply hold the foot in position for 7 seconds without any resistance from the child). He was very active and not exactly a willing participant but we did manage to find some creative ways to preoccupy him and I really think his reaction seemed to lessen as we worked. It didn't go away.....just not as overt.

My concern - since he's going into toe grasp - is should I even be working on Babinsky??? Since we didn't cover toe grasp in my course, I'm not sure what I would do for toe grasp and I'm not completely clear on how to choose where to start given this reaction. I;m pretty certain that he would go into toe grasp if provided the sensory stim for that reflex....I just don't know where exactly that point is.

Should I do nothing...is it ok to work on Babinsky?

I hope it is ok to ask these types of questions. I do not have access to anyone locally that I can think this through with. I'm hoping someone on this group can give me some insights and/or direction.

Thanks in advance!! VR

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