Apraxia

[Guest guest]

Hi - I have a little experience with apraxia but won't be of much help on how

therapy differs for that vs. regular speech therapy. We switched therapists in

January and she immediately said " apraxia " . She said her first clue was that

could not repeat a word after saying it for him but when she

physically prompted him (put her fingers on his mouth and under chin to show him

how the word is produced) - he then COULD say the word (or approximate it) -

hence he needs help with motor planning. Many of your examples apply to

as well. He can say " baby " , " Barney " , " ball " but for the life of him

- can't say " bye-bye " . He screams " die-die " . (Nice, huh.) Luckily he waves hard

and everyone know she's saying " bye-bye " . We have tried so many things with him

and this therapist is excellent. He is not easy to work with since he HATES

therapy. But this is what we are doing or do with him. I go in with him to help

hold him down for the oral-motor work since he's just too big to fight and he

DOES fight it.

1. Oral-motor work:swabbing cheeks, palate, gums & using Nuk brush to put

" flavors " in his mouth.

2. Just beginning " sound therapy " . (This is new and am going to an orientation

in a couple of weeks to learn more about it - we will be doing a home-program -

but I am very excited as I am hearing doing lots more imitating

recently and his behavior is also improving - thank you GOD!!!)

3. She works on sounds and words through play and " flashcards " and uses

prompting, pacing, sign, and exaggerated speech to help him with these.

does have sensory issues and we saw a PT for this for over a year

and many of his " issues " are pretty much gone but I can't say that it helped his

speech much at all. It did seem to help behavior and got rid of most of his

" stim " behavior. He no longer chews on his shirt or slaps his face or chews on

toys or spins (well, not as much). The biggest battle we face with him and

speech is that he is VERY orally defensive and we can't get him to put things in

his mouth that would help speech. His diet is unbelievably limited and includes

primarily soft foods.

He also has a very dropped jaw during speech so consonants are missing and if he

IS saying words you have to be really skilled to hear them. I understand him the

best - although his ST is a close second. But - as someone before me mentioned -

you REALLY have to be listening to " get it " .

So - in a nutshell - I think with our therapy - we are addressing the sensory

issues as well as the motor problems so it is hard to say how the therapy

relates specifically to apraxia. That was a long answer for not much

information.

apraxia

I've suspected that my daughter, age 6, DS, has apraxia--though I can't seem

to get a clear answer from anyone.

When I mention it to a potential new SLP they always say " Oh, I know how to

deal with that. " I've always heard that a SLP needs special training to

work with apraxia.

I'm at such a loss. Brytani does so many of the things you all describe.

She can say a few 2-3 word sentences like " Bless you " very clear, but she

can't say " done " (gun)

Long vowel sounds are a problem. It sounds like she's very southern--Ba,

for bye, Wha, for why

pool for school

She CAN say " What's that " but if she gets lazy it'll be " a da "

sometimes she'll just say " ga,ga " which is so frustrating!!

I don't know what kind of answers I'm looking for, I just thought I'd write.

Maybe someone has an opinion on getting a good SLP.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/16/2002 8:58:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

CKEverett@... writes:

> . I do realize and believe that

> the longer she takes, the less intelligible she will probably be. But I

> can't give up hope.

>

If apraxia is more of a communication problem between brain sending

signals for motor requirements to execute speech, would a child with apraxia

then be more likely to respond well to signing as their form of

communication? Would that not be less frustrating for them? Or would the

same brain/physical communication problems exist for the fingers?

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 2/17/02 5:53:51 AM Pacific Standard Time,

wildwards@... writes:

> If apraxia is more of a communication problem between brain sending

> signals for motor requirements to execute speech, would a child with

> apraxia

> then be more likely to respond well to signing as their form of

> communication? Would that not be less frustrating for them? Or would the

> same brain/physical communication problems exist for the fingers?

> Cheryl in VA

>

>

It depends on the child. Sometimes the moter planning is so severe that it

also effects the brain to hand messages. Since pointing is one of the easiest

motor movements communication boards are sometimes most effective.

Karyn

[Guest guest]

Re: Apraxia

> As far as I understand, Apraxia is a special problem in the motor planning

> of speech.

>

> Elias doesn´t have apraxia. But at the moment I am writing a thesis (for

my

> studies at distance university here in Germany) about DS, speech and

visual

> methods of enhancing it. It is very interesting that here in Germany there

> is no special literature I know about apraxia in children with DS,

although

> it seems it could be a very common problem at least I know some children

> with DS where at least I would suspect apraxia. I talked about that with

> Elias´speech therapist, and for her it was a rather strange topic, too.

>

> So, I am very interested in the results of your poll, !

>

> Greetings from Germany

> Anke with Elias (9/97 DS) and two teenagers

> http://www.familiew.de

>

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In a message dated 2/17/02 9:31:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

> >

> If apraxia is more of a communication problem between brain sending

> signals for motor requirements to execute speech, would a child with

> apraxia

> then be more likely to respond well to signing as their form of

> communication? Would that not be less frustrating for them? Or would the

>

My understanding of apraxia is that is a motor planning problem. The brain

may not send the signals out the to oral motor muscles correctly. Since

Sheila early on diagnosed with motor planning problems by her OT, PT and sped

teacher we knew that there was a high degree of probability that she would

also have motor planning problems in the area of speech.

What helped her the most?

1. Signing was a big help. Yes she had motor planning problems there, but we

accepted approximations. We started signing with her at the age of 10 months.

By 11 months old she was using 3 signs independently and was willing to have

us do hand-over-hand teaching of new signs. She had figured out that this was

a way to tell us what she wanted! This encouraged her to try to keep

communicating.

2. Picture symbols. Sometimes she was with people who didn't know sign

language. being able to flip through a few basic pic syms could get basic

needs met. We started using these around the age of 4 years. Again this kept

her trying to communicate.

3. Augmentive communication device. When she was still not talking by the age

of 5 we requested the outside eval that included a technology eval. That's

when she was diagnosed with apraxia and the device was recommended. She used

this for about 2 or 3 years.

4. Visual and physical prompts. The miracle worker speech pathologist would

use cued speech to show Sheila where the sounds needed to come from in her

mouth. She used alot of sign with her. Major amounts of oral motor exercise

became a way of life for us. We could all watch Sheila struggling to figure

out how to form her mouth to create a sound, so we would use a lot of

exaggerated movement, modeling with our own mouths and then helping her

physically shape her mouth and use of a small portable mirror.

5. I'm a singer and lots of music has been a way of life in our household.

While she was non-verbal we had one Red Grammer tape the girls loved. It got

played all the time. We didn't know that Sheila had memorized all the words

until severla years later. During the time she was learning to talk that tape

had gotten supplanted by some other favorites. One day just a couple of years

ago we dug out the tape and popped it into the tape player in the car. Sheila

is saying all the words. She had learned them all, but had been unable to let

us know! Her speech pathologist asked me to send in words of often repeated

graces, bedtime prayers, songs we sang alot. The consistent repetition and

rhyming patterns help the brain learn them. Something about words set to

music also helps the brain learn them. The speech pathologist I work with at

my job (I work in an integrated preschool) uses music playing quietly in the

background when she is doing individual therapy.

nancy, mom of Sheila who first started putting 2-3 words together at the age

of 10 and at 14 has become quite the conversationalist

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

I am not an expert in the language and communication area. I can only tell

you what has worked for . She can sign and does so to communicate.

Some of her signs are not perfect. I have always thought of it as a

developmental thing but she can sign accurately enough to communicate. My

goal was not to let her get frustrated in her communication and in that

regard I feel signing has been a godsend. She did in fact start saying some

words (and/or approximation of words) when she was about 2 but stopped when

she was about 3 and a half. I have always felt this was do to do growing

physically as she had been very small prior to that and that it just got so

hard for her to control the muscle movement. But again this is only my

opinion. I do know no therapist or doctor has ever been able to determine

why she can't talk. Which is also the reason I still have hope that one day

she will talk.

I am not sure I answered your questions but I hope so.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Re: Apraxia

> In a message dated 2/16/2002 8:58:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> CKEverett@... writes:

>

>

> > >

> If apraxia is more of a communication problem between brain sending

> signals for motor requirements to execute speech, would a child with

apraxia

> then be more likely to respond well to signing as their form of

> communication? Would that not be less frustrating for them? Or would the

> same brain/physical communication problems exist for the fingers?

> Cheryl in VA

Maybe not. The brain has specific locations for specialized function on

each hemisphere. The physical use of motor skills is not the same site as

audio/vocal, however, the child would still require good auditory processing

skills to communicate back out again.

I just wrote a long post to Bev (Webmom) and forgot

to send it to the list. I seem to have difficulty remembering to hit the

RE:All button. Bev, if you want

to forward that post to the list, that would be ok.

This whole area of language ability and verbal communication is an

interesting one. The research, at this point is not conclusive. Most of

the reliable research has been conducted on stroke victims and neurosurgical

candidates. It involves anesthesizing each hemisphere of the brain and then

testing for function. Of course, most of the folks I know would not allow

this type of testing on their child. The dichotic listening test is a

somewhat reliable diagnostic tool used by neuropsychologists.

I am planning on going back to school soon and this is going to be my main

focus. I feel that DS and speech difficulty is oversimplified in the public

school system, and

that the programs are not really solution oriented.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's really a motor-control issue. Your brain doesn't send the right signal to

the muscles in your mouth to form sounds the right way on a consistent basis.

(That is simplified too.) , 7, has pretty severe apraxia. Prompting

DOES work for him - he can say almost anything when prompted. (Prompting, simply

put, is when the therapist places her hands on his mouth/throat/cheeks, etc. to

sort of " put " the muscles where they belong to produce a sound or to give your

body the sensation that should occur when you produce a sound.) Also - our

therapist speaks s-l-o-w-l-y - drawing out words very dramatically. She uses

lots of very dramatic pronunciations. He is fairly nonverbal to the untrained

ear. We hear lots of words (he has many that anyone could understand) and he is

improving all the time. He sees a private speech therapist and gets therapy at

school for 1/2 hour each week. Both therapists are excellent and totally

understand his problem. The bottom line, though: apraxia is the pits. in

Dallas

Apraxia

Apraxia does not mean loss of speech. speaks all the time. Isn't it

more about mixing up pronunciations but not on a consistant basis? More like

here and there they get mixed up with sounds. Please correct me if I'm

wrong. I'm trying to put it simply.....but maybe that's too simply! : )

Jackie

[Guest guest]

I did a web search on dysarthria

and found an interesting website if anyone wants to find out more about it.

http://www.csuchico.edu/~pmccaff/syllabi/SPPA342/342unit12.html

In our daughter's case, I don't doubt that all of the speech and motor (fine

and gross) are related. There is something to the theory that there needs

to be smooth

interhemispheric synchronization between the different

sites of specialized function (also known as lateralization).

I also believe that we can do some things to improve this.

Motor planning, respiratory timing with verbalization,

bilateral coordination, auditory processing, and the vestibular function are

all related. (sensory integration)

More professionals are becoming aware that children

can improve their function if the correct diagnosis is made

and an adequate solution applied, although this is not

mainstream thinking. Usually you have to go looking

privately, and be willing to implement alot of things yourself on a regular

basis.

Alot of the ideas mentioned here are great. Any type

of physical activity that stresses bilateral coordination and vestibular

function is

excellent. Music therapy also. Our speech therapist suggested that Cristen

learn to play the recorder.I like this idea. Not only will the tones

produced help with exercising auditory skills, but also the blowing aspect

will

help with respiratory function and oral motor skills. Cristen loves it

also.

Apraxia

>

> Maybe my does not have apraxia, since it seems most of you are saying

> your children are non-verbal who have been diagnosed with apraxia.

is

> extremely verbal and can be understood by others 90% of the time. He just

> doesn't speak in real long sentences for the most part.

>

> Jackie, Mom to 14ds

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/17/2002 12:51:46 PM Central Standard Time,

jbocci55@... writes:

> Maybe my does not have apraxia, since it seems most of you are saying

> your children are non-verbal who have been diagnosed with apraxia. is

> extremely verbal and can be understood by others 90% of the time. He just

> doesn't speak in real long sentences for the most part.

>

> Jackie, Mom to 14ds

HI

OK now I am confused lol I haven't visited the apraxia web site yet (been

crazy here....4 day holiday) but tell me this would you describe a child with

poor sentence speaking structure to have this, like leaving a word or two out

of a sentence?

Kathy mom to Sara 10..............who will leave out words in conversation

[Guest guest]

was diagnosed with apraxia dyarthria. His genetics doc. told me

that truly all kids with DS have this. He gets speech 4 X week. Last

summer he worked with a SLP who was wonderful. I am hoping she

can work with him again this summer. will be 13 next month, he

has been considered to be non-verbal but I have seen improvements in

his speech this year. Small but still improvements, I still have hopes

that his speech will continue to improve.

Tena

[Guest guest]

Anke,

It has been a long time since I have written. I am back with the list some of

the time. What is Apraxia? Could you

give me an example? is now 12 years old and well into puberty. He is

not as high functioning as he used to

be. I blame the school system. He is now 7 years behind in his schooling.

They are still working on Kindergarten,

1st and 2nd grade. He is reading around the 2nd grade level and just beginning

to get the idea of comprehension. I'm

not sure if I am expecting too much or what. He is quite capable. His teachers

here are giving him many negative

thoughts.

More later. Maybe a picture.

Becky Rubke

Anke Walendzik wrote:

> Re: Apraxia

>

> > As far as I understand, Apraxia is a special problem in the motor planning

> > of speech.

> >

> > Elias doesn´t have apraxia. But at the moment I am writing a thesis (for

> my

> > studies at distance university here in Germany) about DS, speech and

> visual

> > methods of enhancing it. It is very interesting that here in Germany there

> > is no special literature I know about apraxia in children with DS,

> although

> > it seems it could be a very common problem at least I know some children

> > with DS where at least I would suspect apraxia. I talked about that with

> > Elias´speech therapist, and for her it was a rather strange topic, too.

> >

> > So, I am very interested in the results of your poll, !

> >

> > Greetings from Germany

> > Anke with Elias (9/97 DS) and two teenagers

> > http://www.familiew.de

> >

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Check out this web site:

http://tayloredmktg.com/dyspraxia/das.html

[Guest guest]

> If apraxia is more of a communication problem between brain sending

>signals for motor requirements to execute speech, would a child with

apraxia

>then be more likely to respond well to signing as their form of

>communication? Would that not be less frustrating for them? Or would the

>same brain/physical communication problems exist for the fingers?

>Cheryl in VA

This is exactly what happens to my son now. He can't get his fingers to move

the way he wants them to. He can do the signs with fists or open hand (all

the fingers), but even cordinating the hands together is tough, no matter

how many times I show him hand over hand.

Martha C. Vance

mailto:marthavance@...

http:/www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7373 [Non-text portions of this

message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

Hello,

as far as I understand apraxia it has nothing to do with the special

problems many of our children including my Elias have with the aquisition of

grammar. This may have special cognitive reasons or may be influenced by

problems of the auditory short time memory as well. Apraxia as I understood

is the problem to produce impulses to the mouth to say what the brain wants

it to say... lol... maybe I am not the right person to explain in English...

Concretely, when I look at Elias, he is quite able to reproduce words in

situations when he needs them, his articulation is quite good for a child

with DS, but he has still to work on it, but he needed a relatively long

time to get from one- to two- to more-word-sentences and is aquiring grammar

very slowly. So I would think he may have more cognitive, auditory memory

and oral motor problems because of hypotony of mouth muscles than motor

planning problems because of apraxia...

Greetings from Germany

Anke with Elias (9/97 DS) and two teenagers

http://www.familiew.de

> HI

>

> OK now I am confused lol I haven't visited the apraxia web site yet (been

> crazy here....4 day holiday) but tell me this would you describe a child

with

> poor sentence speaking structure to have this, like leaving a word or two

out

> of a sentence?

>

[Guest guest]

Amen to that, ! Noah was diagnosed two years ago. If you have concerns

about your child, take them to a developmental pediatrician, rather than a SLP,

for a diagnosis. Noah receives speech at school, 1/2 hour every day, and in the

summer, we supplement with private therapy. The best indicator of apraxia,

IMHO, is an increasing gap between their receptive and expressive language. In

other words, if you child understands way more than they speak, you might

suspect apraxia. If they do not understand much more than they speak, I would

suspect speech delay based on MR. That is totally an opinion of mine, based on

my experiences and absolutely nothing else! :-)

ph Motes wrote:

> The bottom line, though: apraxia is the pits. in Dallas

[Guest guest]

Anke,

has a problem with stuttering but other than that he has good speech and

pretty good grammar. We are working

on that and getting longer sentences.

Becky

Anke Walendzik wrote:

> Hello,

>

> as far as I understand apraxia it has nothing to do with the special

> problems many of our children including my Elias have with the aquisition of

> grammar. This may have special cognitive reasons or may be influenced by

> problems of the auditory short time memory as well. Apraxia as I understood

> is the problem to produce impulses to the mouth to say what the brain wants

> it to say... lol... maybe I am not the right person to explain in English...

>

> Concretely, when I look at Elias, he is quite able to reproduce words in

> situations when he needs them, his articulation is quite good for a child

> with DS, but he has still to work on it, but he needed a relatively long

> time to get from one- to two- to more-word-sentences and is aquiring grammar

> very slowly. So I would think he may have more cognitive, auditory memory

> and oral motor problems because of hypotony of mouth muscles than motor

> planning problems because of apraxia...

>

> Greetings from Germany

> Anke with Elias (9/97 DS) and two teenagers

> http://www.familiew.de

> > HI

> >

> > OK now I am confused lol I haven't visited the apraxia web site yet (been

> > crazy here....4 day holiday) but tell me this would you describe a child

> with

> > poor sentence speaking structure to have this, like leaving a word or two

> out

> > of a sentence?

> >

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have a 3.5 yr old with apraxia of speech and also oral motor apraxia (he also has trouble with chewing, swallowing, drooling etc). I have been trying the reflexes for 9 months now. The speech therapist is using a combination of prompt and another method. I have noted begining progress in the speech but not much in the other areas. I want to connect with other parents/therapists with similar issues and what their experience has been. What has worked for them and what didn't?

Thanks.

Padmaja

6/11, ette Cormier <paulette.rdi@...> wrote:

From: ette Cormier <paulette.rdi@...>Subject: RE: Mitochondrial Autism Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 6:46 PM

Here’s some info on mitochondrial autism:

As I understand it, Mitochondrial ASD as it compares to Classical Mitochondrial Disease is that it differs in the etiology, meaning that there are genetic and environmental factors at play. This is not to say that that isn't also the case with Classical Mitochondrial Disease, but they differ in the manifestation and symptomology.According to the American Journal of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, Mitochondrial ASD individuals do not display classic features of mito disease and these symptoms are typcially less severe. Symptoms of Mitochondrial ASD can include but I am certain are not limited to or necessarily must include every symptom - cognitive impairment, language deficits, abnormal energy metabolism (very low, unstable energy/easily fatigued), chronic GI problems, abnormalities in fatty acid oxidation, and increased oxidative

stress. Hypotonia and/or seizures may also be present (not certain if these are merely symptoms of Mitochondrial ASD or are co-morbid conditions when they occur). I would refer anyone looking for more info to read:http://hstrial-astephens3.homestead.com/Evidence_of_Mitochondrial_Dysfunction_in_Autism_and_Implications_for_Treatment.pdfhttp://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/mitodnaautismgfcfglutamate-thoughts.htmlAnd for anyone interested, here is one of many articles, providing a definition or better understanding of hypotonia. http://www.childrenshospital.org/az/Site1106/mainpageS1106P0.html

ette Cormier, B.A., B.Ed.

Parent Guide/Developmental Guide

RDI® Certified Program Consultant

(905) 873-9491

www.rainbowconnections.ca

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I have a client with mitochondrial autism. He was diagnosed in the fall and is working with a DAN naturopath who is supporting him with supplements for the mitochondrial issues.

Can you tell me what you mean by mitochondrial issues? What is the difference between this disorder and reg autism? Thanks for clarifying!

Heidi

[Guest guest]

How old are your twins? My son was also an identical twin. The other one demised. I am doing the facial reflexes as well. He is learning signing at school. He does have reflux too. I have been avoiding an endoscopy. have you done anything specific for the dysphasia ? Which all facial reflexes are you doing?

Thanks

Padmaja

From: ette Cormier <paulette.rdi@...>Subject: RE: Mitochondrial Autism Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 6:46 PM

Here’s some info on mitochondrial autism:

As I understand it, Mitochondrial ASD as it compares to Classical Mitochondrial Disease is that it differs in the etiology, meaning that there are genetic and environmental factors at play. This is not to say that that isn't also the case with Classical Mitochondrial Disease, but they differ in the manifestation and symptomology.According to the American Journal of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, Mitochondrial ASD individuals do not display classic features of mito disease and these symptoms are typcially less severe. Symptoms of Mitochondrial ASD can include but I am certain are not limited to or necessarily must include every symptom - cognitive impairment, language deficits, abnormal energy metabolism (very low, unstable energy/easily fatigued), chronic GI problems, abnormalities in fatty acid oxidation, and increased oxidative

stress. Hypotonia and/or seizures may also be present (not certain if these are merely symptoms of Mitochondrial ASD or are co-morbid conditions when they occur). I would refer anyone looking for more info to read:http://hstrial-astephens3.homestead.com/Evidence_of_Mitochondrial_Dysfunction_in_Autism_and_Implications_for_Treatment.pdfhttp://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/mitodnaautismgfcfglutamate-thoughts.htmlAnd for anyone interested, here is one of many articles, providing a definition or better understanding of hypotonia. http://www.childrenshospital.org/az/Site1106/mainpageS1106P0.html

ette Cormier, B.A., B.Ed.

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I have a client with mitochondrial autism. He was diagnosed in the fall and is working with a DAN naturopath who is supporting him with supplements for the mitochondrial issues.

Can you tell me what you mean by mitochondrial issues? What is the difference between this disorder and reg autism? Thanks for clarifying!

Heidi

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They are 2 and a half. Best,Stacey Voinis, CPCOn May 8, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Padmaja Sharma <padmajasharma@...> wrote:

How old are your twins? My son was also an identical twin. The other one demised. I am doing the facial reflexes as well. He is learning signing at school. He does have reflux too. I have been avoiding an endoscopy. have you done anything specific for the dysphasia ? Which all facial reflexes are you doing?

Thanks

Padmaja

From: ette Cormier <paulette.rdi@...>Subject: RE: Mitochondrial Autism Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 6:46 PM

Here’s some info on mitochondrial autism:

As I understand it, Mitochondrial ASD as it compares to Classical Mitochondrial Disease is that it differs in the etiology, meaning that there are genetic and environmental factors at play. This is not to say that that isn't also the case with Classical Mitochondrial Disease, but they differ in the manifestation and symptomology.According to the American Journal of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, Mitochondrial ASD individuals do not display classic features of mito disease and these symptoms are typcially less severe. Symptoms of Mitochondrial ASD can include but I am certain are not limited to or necessarily must include every symptom - cognitive impairment, language deficits, abnormal energy metabolism (very low, unstable energy/easily fatigued), chronic GI problems, abnormalities in fatty acid oxidation, and increased oxidative

stress. Hypotonia and/or seizures may also be present (not certain if these are merely symptoms of Mitochondrial ASD or are co-morbid conditions when they occur). I would refer anyone looking for more info to read:http://hstrial-astephens3.homestead.com/Evidence_of_Mitochondrial_Dysfunction_in_Autism_and_Implications_for_Treatment.pdfhttp://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/mitodnaautismgfcfglutamate-thoughts.htmlAnd for anyone interested, here is one of many articles, providing a definition or better understanding of hypotonia. http://www.childrenshospital.org/az/Site1106/mainpageS1106P0.html

ette Cormier, B.A., B.Ed.

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In a message dated 5/4/2011 10:41:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, paulette. rdi@... writes:

I have a client with mitochondrial autism. He was diagnosed in the fall and is working with a DAN naturopath who is supporting him with supplements for the mitochondrial issues.

Can you tell me what you mean by mitochondrial issues? What is the difference between this disorder and reg autism? Thanks for clarifying!

Heidi

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our speech therapist is treating her for both. i've got to research some of the MNRI material to see what I can do for the dysphasia.

i'm very sorry to hear about your lost twin. did this happen at birth? we are still trying to find out what happened to our twins. the doctors haven't been able to tell us anything other than it appears our twin with CP had a stroke right before birth. now, i believe they both did.

all my best,

Stacey Voinis

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In a message dated 5/4/2011 10:41:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, paulette. rdi@... writes:

I have a client with mitochondrial autism. He was diagnosed in the fall and is working with a DAN naturopath who is supporting him with supplements for the mitochondrial issues.

Can you tell me what you mean by mitochondrial issues? What is the difference between this disorder and reg autism? Thanks for clarifying!

Heidi