help needed

[Guest guest]

Dont they though?!

Re: Re: Help Needed

Hi...

I remember way back the big controversy over apricot pits....they do

contain B-17....

kinda like the flouride in water controversy..........you know.......if they

don't want you to know the truth just make all kinds of absurb

statements.......

[Guest guest]

Dont they though?!

Re: Re: Help Needed

Hi...

I remember way back the big controversy over apricot pits....they do

contain B-17....

kinda like the flouride in water controversy..........you know.......if they

don't want you to know the truth just make all kinds of absurb

statements.......

[Guest guest]

This has been bothering me for a long time. My husband died of Pancreatic

Cancer. I know this is about the most aggressive cancer there is, however,

this should be one area that the medical community and research is focusing

on. It's becoming more and more common. A universal response is " there is no

magic bullet " . I never asked for magic. Medical community further is

outlawed in NJ for attempting any alternative. Where is the simple logic.

We

went to an alternative clinic, where he started to get some energy back.

however, it was too late by then. He had already had chemo and radiation (which

the powers that be knew in advance would not help one iota). Doctors

themselves will go to alternative measures (undercover of course). They know

the

socalled advances in cancer treatment do little for the patient, but much

for the drug companies and everyone who stands to profit from human suffering.

I can't say for sure that there is a cure or even a preventive, but it would

seem obvious that whenever there is an attempt with some success, it becomes

AGAINST THE LAW, The B17 vitamin is a shining example. Supposedly it is

poisonous.

I suppose Chemo (the $15 billion dollar a year profit center is harmless).

It kills more people that it helps. Also can maim in some cases. I've seen

it.

I can't attend the court session, but would be happy to write. Please let

me know where. The internet is a great tool for sharing information.

[Guest guest]

This has been bothering me for a long time. My husband died of Pancreatic

Cancer. I know this is about the most aggressive cancer there is, however,

this should be one area that the medical community and research is focusing

on. It's becoming more and more common. A universal response is " there is no

magic bullet " . I never asked for magic. Medical community further is

outlawed in NJ for attempting any alternative. Where is the simple logic.

We

went to an alternative clinic, where he started to get some energy back.

however, it was too late by then. He had already had chemo and radiation (which

the powers that be knew in advance would not help one iota). Doctors

themselves will go to alternative measures (undercover of course). They know

the

socalled advances in cancer treatment do little for the patient, but much

for the drug companies and everyone who stands to profit from human suffering.

I can't say for sure that there is a cure or even a preventive, but it would

seem obvious that whenever there is an attempt with some success, it becomes

AGAINST THE LAW, The B17 vitamin is a shining example. Supposedly it is

poisonous.

I suppose Chemo (the $15 billion dollar a year profit center is harmless).

It kills more people that it helps. Also can maim in some cases. I've seen

it.

I can't attend the court session, but would be happy to write. Please let

me know where. The internet is a great tool for sharing information.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/7/03 10:15:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

maturelady1@... writes:

> You can buy B17 on the net. I saw some for sale just

> > 2 nights ago. I didnt know it was banned.

> > You know I figure they have a cure for cancer. Just

> > dont want anyone to know abt it.

> > lisa

>

How do you know if you are actually getting B17 if it is banned and being

sold on the internet? I want mine to come through referral..a reliable source.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/7/03 10:15:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

maturelady1@... writes:

> You can buy B17 on the net. I saw some for sale just

> > 2 nights ago. I didnt know it was banned.

> > You know I figure they have a cure for cancer. Just

> > dont want anyone to know abt it.

> > lisa

>

How do you know if you are actually getting B17 if it is banned and being

sold on the internet? I want mine to come through referral..a reliable source.

[Guest guest]

What can be the possible side effects of having B - 17 ??? I have the bottle

with me but am scared of starting to consume them. Is it better to have apricot

seed instead ? At least it is natural . PLEASE ADVISE .

Saurabh

Re: Re: Help Needed

In a message dated 12/7/03 10:15:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

maturelady1@... writes:

> You can buy B17 on the net. I saw some for sale just

> > 2 nights ago. I didnt know it was banned.

> > You know I figure they have a cure for cancer. Just

> > dont want anyone to know abt it.

> > lisa

>

How do you know if you are actually getting B17 if it is banned and being

sold on the internet? I want mine to come through referral..a reliable source.

[Guest guest]

What can be the possible side effects of having B - 17 ??? I have the bottle

with me but am scared of starting to consume them. Is it better to have apricot

seed instead ? At least it is natural . PLEASE ADVISE .

Saurabh

Re: Re: Help Needed

In a message dated 12/7/03 10:15:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

maturelady1@... writes:

> You can buy B17 on the net. I saw some for sale just

> > 2 nights ago. I didnt know it was banned.

> > You know I figure they have a cure for cancer. Just

> > dont want anyone to know abt it.

> > lisa

>

How do you know if you are actually getting B17 if it is banned and being

sold on the internet? I want mine to come through referral..a reliable source.

[Guest guest]

There are some great books about this treatment. I read " Cancer- Why We're

all Dying to Know the Truth " Get informed.

Virginia

At 12:22 AM 12/8/2003 +0530, you wrote:

>What can be the possible side effects of having B - 17 ??? I have the

>bottle with me but am scared of starting to consume them. Is it better to

>have apricot seed instead ? At least it is natural . PLEASE ADVISE .

>

>Saurabh

> Re: Re: Help Needed

>

>

> In a message dated 12/7/03 10:15:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> maturelady1@... writes:

>

>

> > You can buy B17 on the net. I saw some for sale just

> > > 2 nights ago. I didnt know it was banned.

> > > You know I figure they have a cure for cancer. Just

> > > dont want anyone to know abt it.

> > > lisa

> >

>

> How do you know if you are actually getting B17 if it is banned and being

> sold on the internet? I want mine to come through referral..a reliable

> source.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are some great books about this treatment. I read " Cancer- Why We're

all Dying to Know the Truth " Get informed.

Virginia

At 12:22 AM 12/8/2003 +0530, you wrote:

>What can be the possible side effects of having B - 17 ??? I have the

>bottle with me but am scared of starting to consume them. Is it better to

>have apricot seed instead ? At least it is natural . PLEASE ADVISE .

>

>Saurabh

> Re: Re: Help Needed

>

>

> In a message dated 12/7/03 10:15:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> maturelady1@... writes:

>

>

> > You can buy B17 on the net. I saw some for sale just

> > > 2 nights ago. I didnt know it was banned.

> > > You know I figure they have a cure for cancer. Just

> > > dont want anyone to know abt it.

> > > lisa

> >

>

> How do you know if you are actually getting B17 if it is banned and being

> sold on the internet? I want mine to come through referral..a reliable

> source.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

amofilin - aminophylline

kaliolite - potassium chloride

rinelon - nasonex for rhinitis

Rundle <jrundle@...> wrote:

Hey Guys,

I have just retruned to the rig and discovered that my

" hospital " has a load of mexican medication. I have managed

to find out some info on most of them, but I am stuck with

the following:

1) Amofilin

2) Rinelon

3) Kaliolite

If any of you out there know what this is, please tell me.

Thanx

J

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[Guest guest]

,

A quick Google search showed:

1. Amofilin –seems to be a bronchodilator and vasodilator used for

asthma and angina! Best confirm this with any Spanish speakers out

there though!

2. Rinelon= Mometasone- ( in the BNF as Mometasone) is a

corticosteroid used to reduce itching, redness, and swelling

associated with many skin conditions and the symptoms of perennial

and seasonal allergic rhinitis (hay fever).

3. Kaliolite = Potassium chloride ( is this in an oral prep form on

the rig?)

Regards

-- In , " Rundle "

<jrundle@w...> wrote:

> Hey Guys,

>

> I have just retruned to the rig and discovered that my

> " hospital " has a load of mexican medication. I have managed

> to find out some info on most of them, but I am stuck with

> the following:

>

> 1) Amofilin

> 2) Rinelon

> 3) Kaliolite

>

> If any of you out there know what this is, please tell me.

>

> Thanx

>

> J

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hi

Kaliolite =Potassium Chloride

Rinelon = Mometasone is a corticosteroid used to reduce itching, redness,

and swelling

Amofilin = aminophyline

Cheers

Tom G

>From: " Rundle " <jrundle@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Help needed

>Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:30:33 +0200

>

>Hey Guys,

>

>I have just retruned to the rig and discovered that my

> " hospital " has a load of mexican medication. I have managed

>to find out some info on most of them, but I am stuck with

>the following:

>

>1) Amofilin

>2) Rinelon

>3) Kaliolite

>

>If any of you out there know what this is, please tell me.

>

>Thanx

>

>J

>_____________________________________________________________________

>For super low premiums, click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote

>

>http://www.webmail.co.za the South African FREE email service

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

So the scene unfolds with you somewhere off the coast of Africa, on an unsafe,

listing, rig with an amount of Mexican medicines in the cupboard and you are not

conversant in the lingo.....!

Sounds like just another cool day for another Remote Medic..

Life without experiences is no fun at all.

P.

Rundle <jrundle@...> wrote:

Hey Guys,

I have just retruned to the rig and discovered that my

" hospital " has a load of mexican medication. I have managed

to find out some info on most of them, but I am stuck with

the following:

1) Amofilin

2) Rinelon

3) Kaliolite

If any of you out there know what this is, please tell me.

Thanx

J

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[Guest guest]

Sounds like all you need now is for a drunk crew to start drilling in an H2S

field.

Dan Dittfurth

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of peter mitchell

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:28 PM

Subject: Re: Help needed

Dear ,

So the scene unfolds with you somewhere off the coast of Africa, on an

unsafe, listing, rig with an amount of Mexican medicines in the cupboard and

you are not conversant in the lingo.....!

Sounds like just another cool day for another Remote Medic..

Life without experiences is no fun at all.

P.

Rundle <jrundle@...> wrote:

Hey Guys,

I have just retruned to the rig and discovered that my

" hospital " has a load of mexican medication. I have managed

to find out some info on most of them, but I am stuck with

the following:

1) Amofilin

2) Rinelon

3) Kaliolite

If any of you out there know what this is, please tell me.

Thanx

J

_____

[Guest guest]

Well, the VSD would clue him in, and I don't think death is the

issue. We have 1:166 with autism and 1:6 with learning/behavioral

diagnoses. This does not include the rise in many

illnesses..diabetes, asthma,MS etc...I personally would not waste my

time and if he includes his name, I would make sure that he knows

you will not recommend him as he forgot the oath...first do no harm

(death is not necessary for harm to be done).

>

>

> I'm debating a doctor right now on the dangers of vaccines. He

swears no

> baby has ever died from a vaccine, thinks they are wonderful blah

blah..... Does

> anyone have proof positive that his has happened? I sited VAERS to

him but he

> says this is only casual not causal. I don't know why I bother

but its been

> entertaining listening to him! Any help is appreciated.

>

> All the best,

>

> " Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines if

any should

> be

> given to their children "

> _Vaccine Information_ (http://www.vaccinetruth.org/) or

vaccinetruth.org

> Callahan Vaccine Liberation Co-director

>

[Guest guest]

,

Tell him to go to the CDC's MMWR

subsite and search on " vaccine deaths "

The following link is but one example of

the CDC's own BIASED reporting on

serious vaccine injuries and deaths.

Hopefully, he will no longer be able

to close his eyes and stop his ears

after reading this report.

Regards,

Dr. King

http://www.dr-king.com

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5201a1.htm

At 04:16 3/9/06 -0000, redhead60707 wrote:

>

>Well, the VSD would clue him in, and I don't think death is the

>issue. We have 1:166 with autism and 1:6 with learning/behavioral

>diagnoses. This does not include the rise in many

>illnesses..diabetes, asthma,MS etc...I personally would not waste my

>time and if he includes his name, I would make sure that he knows

>you will not recommend him as he forgot the oath...first do no harm

>(death is not necessary for harm to be done).

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> I'm debating a doctor right now on the dangers of vaccines. He

>swears no

>> baby has ever died from a vaccine, thinks they are wonderful blah

>blah..... Does

>> anyone have proof positive that his has happened? I sited VAERS to

>him but he

>> says this is only casual not causal. I don't know why I bother

>but its been

>> entertaining listening to him! Any help is appreciated.

>>

>> All the best,

>>

>> " Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines if

>any should

>> be

>> given to their children "

>> _Vaccine Information_ (http://www.vaccinetruth.org/) or

>vaccinetruth.org

>> Callahan Vaccine Liberation Co-director

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the help. I have come to the conclusion if a child died on the table while the nurse was removing the syringe he would call it something else. He makes vaccines. Works at the NIH...it seems nothing will change his mind....He is talking to me so maybe he is reaching out? I don't know....

All the best,"Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines if any should begiven to their children" Vaccine Information or vaccinetruth.org Callahan Vaccine Liberation Co-director

[Guest guest]

The comment " no baby has ever died from a vaccine " is not at all a

true statement. The gov't knows and expects that a few kids will

suffer tremendously in response to each of the vaccines and it is

figured into their cost/benefit estimates (which are horribly

inaccurate). You can go to www.nvic.org and look up info about

various vaccine's track record on mortality and morbidity. As was

pointed out, the info is also on CDC website but is probably

buried. Additionally, the circular from the manufacturer should

have expected mortality information.

Your physician is flat out and absolutely wrong on this count.

Vicky

> >>

> >>

> >> I'm debating a doctor right now on the dangers of vaccines. He

> >swears no

> >> baby has ever died from a vaccine, thinks they are wonderful

blah

> >blah..... Does

> >> anyone have proof positive that his has happened? I sited VAERS

to

> >him but he

> >> says this is only casual not causal. I don't know why I bother

> >but its been

> >> entertaining listening to him! Any help is appreciated.

> >>

> >> All the best,

> >>

> >> " Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines

if

> >any should

> >> be

> >> given to their children "

> >> _Vaccine Information_ (http://www.vaccinetruth.org/) or

> >vaccinetruth.org

> >> Callahan Vaccine Liberation Co-director

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

All SIDS cases are reported on 'Hot Lot' reports.

Re: Help needed

> The comment " no baby has ever died from a vaccine " is not at all a

> true statement. The gov't knows and expects that a few kids will

> suffer tremendously in response to each of the vaccines and it is

> figured into their cost/benefit estimates (which are horribly

> inaccurate). You can go to www.nvic.org and look up info about

> various vaccine's track record on mortality and morbidity. As was

> pointed out, the info is also on CDC website but is probably

> buried. Additionally, the circular from the manufacturer should

> have expected mortality information.

>

> Your physician is flat out and absolutely wrong on this count.

>

> Vicky

>

>

>

>

>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> I'm debating a doctor right now on the dangers of vaccines. He

>> >swears no

>> >> baby has ever died from a vaccine, thinks they are wonderful

> blah

>> >blah..... Does

>> >> anyone have proof positive that his has happened? I sited VAERS

> to

>> >him but he

>> >> says this is only casual not causal. I don't know why I bother

>> >but its been

>> >> entertaining listening to him! Any help is appreciated.

>> >>

>> >> All the best,

>> >>

>> >> " Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines

> if

>> >any should

>> >> be

>> >> given to their children "

>> >> _Vaccine Information_ (http://www.vaccinetruth.org/) or

>> >vaccinetruth.org

>> >> Callahan Vaccine Liberation Co-director

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If your doctor thinks no child has ever died from a vaccine, you should give him

the book " A Shot in the Dark " - it's gut wrenching.

~ Karin

>

>The comment " no baby has ever died from a vaccine " is not at all a

>true statement. The gov't knows and expects that a few kids will

>suffer tremendously in response to each of the vaccines and it is

>figured into their cost/benefit estimates (which are horribly

>inaccurate). You can go to www.nvic.org and look up info about

>various vaccine's track record on mortality and morbidity. As was

>pointed out, the info is also on CDC website but is probably

>buried. Additionally, the circular from the manufacturer should

>have expected mortality information.

>

>Your physician is flat out and absolutely wrong on this count.

>

>Vicky

[Guest guest]

I wrote some columns on this, for anyone interested (and did some of my own research on Vaers):

02/22/02 - Infant Vaccine Deaths - But Who's Counting? (No news is NOT good news.)

10/18/02 - Vaccine-related infant deaths - When is enough, enough?

And then there is this heart-wrenching story:

02/28/03 - Death By Lethal Injection - From The Heart Of One Mother to Another (Scandals "flashback")

Sandy Gottstein ( aka Mintz)PO Box 111818Anchorage, AK 99511-1818http://www.vaccinationnews.com/http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/past_scandals.htmhttp://www.vaccinationnews.com/Out_of_Control/past_ool.htmSPONSOR OF SBS, VACCINES, AUTISM and other ONLINE CONFERENCES AThttp://www.redflagsdaily.com"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." - Wendell (1811-1884),paraphrasing Philpot Curran (1808)

[Guest guest]

Hi,

> PPD (Mantous) - requires a 3-day read, OR chest X-ray if positive.

The PPD must be completed, signed and dated within 30 days of th day

of registration.

If your son ever got the BCG vaccination, the PPD might still come out

as positive. Just go for the X-ray.

> MMR - documentation of 2-immunizations after one year of age OR

immunity established by blood tests (titers) for each (3 total, OR

born before 1957.)

Go for the blood test. If he is required to get the vaccine, it is,

and has always been, thimerosal free.

> Varicella (Chicken Pox) - proof of immunity by titer (IGG number

MANDATORY) (takes 10 days for results) OR proof of 2-shot immunization

as an adult.

Major sigh. He is most likely immune. Let them determine the titers,

he should be fine. If he needs the vaccine, it is thimerosal free.

> Hepatitis B - (can be refused, but could delay graduation)

Not very likely that he would be immune. How high risk is the

population he would be working with? Thimerosal free HepB vaccine is

available.

> Tetanus / Diphtheria (TD) - within last seven year of day of

registration.

No way around that if you no longer have his records, I guess.

Thimerosal free dT is available. If he is working with children or

elderly, he may consider getting the dTP (with the pertussis component).

[Guest guest]

Many thanks for the response. I'm also checking into a religious exemption. Should the MMR be separated? There might be a possibility that they would give him a few months extension to complete all vaccines. Can the DT be separated? I know he did have a Tetanus shot in 1996 after working in some flood waters here. (Don't guess the fact that I had Diphtheria as a child would pass along any immunity! Of course back in the dark ages when I was a kid we had all the childhood illnesses - Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox. My younger sister also had Scarlet Fever.) I DO know that he had chicken pox and measles as a chld! He will definitely need the Hep B for his profession. Will insist that it is thimerosal free for sure. Thanks

again for the info. Lynda --------------------- > PPD (Mantous) - requires a 3-day read, OR chest X-ray if positive. The PPD must be completed, signed and dated within 30 days of th day of registration. If your son ever got the BCG vaccination, the PPD might still come out as positive. Just go for the X-ray. > MMR - documentation of 2-immunizations after one year of age OR immunity established by blood tests (titers) for each (3 total, OR born before 1957.) Go for the blood test. If he is required to get the vaccine, it is, and has always been, thimerosal free. > Varicella (Chicken Pox) - proof of immunity by titer (IGG number MANDATORY) (takes 10 days for results) OR proof of 2-shot immunization as an adult. Major sigh. He is most likely immune. Let them determine the titers, he should be fine. If he needs the vaccine, it is thimerosal free. > Hepatitis B - (can be refused, but could delay graduation) Not very likely that he would be immune. How high risk is the population he would be working with? Thimerosal free HepB vaccine is available. > Tetanus / Diphtheria (TD) - within last seven year of day of registration. No way around that if you no longer have his records, I guess. Thimerosal free dT is available. If he is working with children or elderly, he may consider getting the dTP (with the pertussis component).

[Guest guest]

Lynda,

> Should the MMR be separated? There might be a possibility that

they would give him a few months extension to complete all vaccines.

Not really, but if his titers come back good for measles and mumps

(there is a fair chance he had mumps, given his birth year), then you

could go for the single rubella shot (check Hopewell Pharmacy for

single rubella vaccine). If he is non immune to mumps also, I would

just go for the MMR. The hassle (and cost) of going back for one shot

after the other just doesn't seem worth the non-proven medical benefit

for someone his age (I would think). Live viral vaccines must be

either given together OR given at least 4 weeks apart, so the singles

would delay the whole process. But as I said, it is very likely that

he is immune against measles and mumps anyway.

> Can the DT be separated? I know he did have a Tetanus shot in

1996 after working in some flood waters here. (Don't guess the fact

that I had Diphtheria as a child would pass along any immunity! Of

course back in the dark ages when I was a kid we had all the childhood

illnesses - Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox. My younger sister also had

Scarlet Fever.)

If you had diphtherie in the 10 years preceding his birth, he probably

had a bit of maternal immunity in the first months of his life.

However, the maternal immunity decays fast, so no benefit all these

years later. He may actually have been given the dT in 1996 (they call

it tetanus, but it is almost always the combo). Just go for the dT, I

don't think there is a thimerosal free diphtheria only vaccine, so if

you want to avoid thimerosal, the combo is better.

> I DO know that he had chicken pox and measles as a chld!

Too bad that your doctor no longer has his records. Doctor diagnosed

measles and chicken pox would have saved you some money...if he has

had chicken pox, he has a 90% likelihood of still being immune.

So it appears that in the end, he may " just " need to get the rubella,

dT and hepB. Hope all his titers come out good and strong!

>

> ---------------------

>

> > PPD (Mantous) - requires a 3-day read, OR chest X-ray if positive.

>

> The PPD must be completed, signed and dated within 30 days of th day

> of registration.

>

> If your son ever got the BCG vaccination, the PPD might still come out

> as positive. Just go for the X-ray.

>

>

> > MMR - documentation of 2-immunizations after one year of age OR

> immunity established by blood tests (titers) for each (3 total, OR

> born before 1957.)

>

> Go for the blood test. If he is required to get the vaccine, it is,

> and has always been, thimerosal free.

>

>

> > Varicella (Chicken Pox) - proof of immunity by titer (IGG number

> MANDATORY) (takes 10 days for results) OR proof of 2-shot immunization

> as an adult.

>

> Major sigh. He is most likely immune. Let them determine the titers,

> he should be fine. If he needs the vaccine, it is thimerosal free.

>

>

> > Hepatitis B - (can be refused, but could delay graduation)

>

> Not very likely that he would be immune. How high risk is the

> population he would be working with? Thimerosal free HepB vaccine is

> available.

>

>

> > Tetanus / Diphtheria (TD) - within last seven year of day of

> registration.

>

> No way around that if you no longer have his records, I guess.

> Thimerosal free dT is available. If he is working with children or

> elderly, he may consider getting the dTP (with the pertussis

> component).

>

>

>