Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 In a message dated 9/21/2006 10:58:08 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, pvisser@... writes: i know what donna is going to do... what are you doing in october michelle? i guess that if you dont want to finish the ripped rotation, then you could start october's rotation early (?) I want to finish the rotation out and don't get me wrong, it has been an awesome change of pace from what I was doing. I needed something different and this fit the bill. I get bored with every rotation I do after a couple of weeks. I want to be able to finish this one out. I'll see how I feel by the end of this week. I might go with a Cathe all endurance to kind of stay with the theme we're on now. I will look at the Cathe forum and see what she posts for October, but I'd like to do a one body part a day, but then the Firm rotation sounds good too. I hate deciding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 fitgrl222@... wrote: > In a message dated 9/21/2006 7:02:48 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, > donna112520@... writes: > > Maybe it *is* good > that we only have a week left of this rotation! > > I think so. I am actually starting to get bored of it. awwww.... well i would hate for you ladies to be bored/tired of the rotation if you would like to switch over to something else then that would be fine with me! next week im going to have to figure out what to do for october....mmmmm, so many possibilities! i know what donna is going to do... what are you doing in october michelle? i guess that if you dont want to finish the ripped rotation, then you could start october's rotation early (?) :*carolyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I think you can definately substitute non-FIRMs by using the icon version - cardio - you can choose from DVDs/videos, machine cardio, outdoor cardio, etc. barbell days - you can do whatever full body or split workouts you have - I also think power yoga counts. tortoise days - can probably do circuits using heavy weights hare days - light cardio/toning - I'm thinking that some Pilates may even fit the bill here with some light dance aerobics (i'm thinking of hares in terms of recovery workouts) Just some ideas! Donna --- Kassia <ldy_solana@...> wrote: > i am thinking of goign with donna on the firm > rotation but substituing the videos since i only > have 7 non-BSS firms and 4 BSS firms. and only 11 > workouts for 31 days is going to bore me silly so > ihave to change it up. > > kassia > > Festival City Concrete <pvisser@...> wrote: > next week im going to have to > figure out what to do for october....mmmmm, so many > possibilities! > i know what donna is going to do... what are you > doing in october > michelle? i guess that if you dont want to finish > the ripped > rotation, then you could start october's rotation > early (?) > :*carolyn. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you ? > Everyone is raving about the all-new . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 fitgrl222@... wrote: > I want to finish the rotation out and don't get me wrong, it has been an > awesome change of pace from what I was doing. oh good !! >I get bored with every rotation I do > after a couple of weeks. heh... yeah, i hear ya. when i do another rotation where the instructor and/or videos are repeated at all, then i think that will set it for a 3 week duration.. maybe even just 2 weeks. :*carolyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Rotation is actually the spine twisting (sort of like a top or a corkscrew) and that is actually what causes the curve. They don't have a technical way of measuring it - they more or less eye ball it. I have a link that shows exactly what you look for on the x-ray. Therefore if you treat the curve, but not the rotation, you are treating the symptom and not the cause. If you fix the rotation, the curve should resolve as a result. The rotation causes the rib hump. You have to scroll down to the third diagram (just above the scary looking skulls, lol) under where it says Radiographic Assessment of the Scoliosis Patient. http://www.rad.washington.edu/mskbook/scoliosis.html Noelle (12-2-01) Ian (8-15-04) Rotation Many people keep mentioning rotation when talking about their child's cobb angle. What is this exactly? How do they measure this? Can you see this with a naked eye? I have gathered that you don't want this. Connor's back seems straight when he stands still but when he runs I can see the curve again - Is this because of the rotation? and Connor (age 2, curve around 20 degrees - detethered 9/06) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Thanks so much for the interesting link - Rotation is something we're still fight with! The VEPTR's can hold Siobhan's spine beautifully straight, but she is rotating before my eyes! I found the link cool, and have saved it!!! Jacki > > Rotation is actually the spine twisting (sort of like a top or a corkscrew) and that is actually what causes the curve. They don't have a technical way of measuring it - they more or less eye ball it. I have a link that shows exactly what you look for on the x- ray. Therefore if you treat the curve, but not the rotation, you are treating the symptom and not the cause. If you fix the rotation, the curve should resolve as a result. The rotation causes the rib hump. > > You have to scroll down to the third diagram (just above the scary looking skulls, lol) under where it says Radiographic Assessment of the Scoliosis Patient. > > http://www.rad.washington.edu/mskbook/scoliosis.html > > > Noelle (12-2-01) > Ian (8-15-04) > Rotation > > > > Many people keep mentioning rotation when talking about their child's > cobb angle. What is this exactly? How do they measure this? Can you see > this with a naked eye? I have gathered that you don't want this. > Connor's back seems straight when he stands still but when he runs I can > see the curve again - Is this because of the rotation? > > and Connor (age 2, curve around 20 degrees - detethered 9/06) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Jacki, Deshea had given me the link a while back. I haven't been able to find another link that explains it as clearly as this one does. Noelle (12-2-01) Ian (8-15-04) Rotation > > > > Many people keep mentioning rotation when talking about their child's > cobb angle. What is this exactly? How do they measure this? Can you see > this with a naked eye? I have gathered that you don't want this. > Connor's back seems straight when he stands still but when he runs I can > see the curve again - Is this because of the rotation? > > and Connor (age 2, curve around 20 degrees - detethered 9/06) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 If the rib hump is not there any more does it mean there is less rotation now than when we started a year ago? No orthopedist has ever mentioned rotation to us. Guess it is just another question to add to my list. Thanks! > > Rotation is actually the spine twisting (sort of like a top or a corkscrew) and that is actually what causes the curve. They don't have a technical way of measuring it - they more or less eye ball it. I have a link that shows exactly what you look for on the x-ray. Therefore if you treat the curve, but not the rotation, you are treating the symptom and not the cause. If you fix the rotation, the curve should resolve as a result. The rotation causes the rib hump. > > You have to scroll down to the third diagram (just above the scary looking skulls, lol) under where it says Radiographic Assessment of the Scoliosis Patient. > > http://www.rad.washington.edu/mskbook/scoliosis.html > > > Noelle (12-2-01) > Ian (8-15-04) > Rotation > > > > Many people keep mentioning rotation when talking about their child's > cobb angle. What is this exactly? How do they measure this? Can you see > this with a naked eye? I have gathered that you don't want this. > Connor's back seems straight when he stands still but when he runs I can > see the curve again - Is this because of the rotation? > > and Connor (age 2, curve around 20 degrees - detethered 9/06) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Yes, the rib hump should improve as the rotation improves. Although, Ian's rib hump was greatly reduced after his first cast, but he still had rotation issues. Noelle (12-2-01) Ian (8-15-04) Rotation > > > > Many people keep mentioning rotation when talking about their child's > cobb angle. What is this exactly? How do they measure this? Can you see > this with a naked eye? I have gathered that you don't want this. > Connor's back seems straight when he stands still but when he runs I can > see the curve again - Is this because of the rotation? > > and Connor (age 2, curve around 20 degrees - detethered 9/06) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Since your entire spine was likely not fused (remember that most people have the entire cervical spine unfused, and at least part of the upper thoracic and lower lumbar part unfused after their original scoliosis surgery), then the unfused parts can continue to rotate. For a couple of years, I thought I was crazy in imagining that my belly button had moved a bit after my first pregnancy. Come to find out - it had moved!! It moved a bit due to the continued rotation in my lumbar area. I don't think that rotation happens in every case, but it certainly happened with me to some extent. The fused part of your spine probably can't rotate if your fusion was solid (I'm not a doctor though). But my surgeon mentioned something about the fact that since bones are alive (as are thick fused bones), they can move a bit over time in the right circumstances. I can't remember his exact explanation of how this happens, but he used this to describe how my flatback occured over time in spite of the curved Luque rods that were supposed to prevent it. So perhaps it could happen to some extent with rotation problems too? I have no idea if such a thing could happen, I'm just hypothesizing and have no medical credentials. Good luck with finding help. Is your surgeon experienced with adult spinal deformity revisions such as flatback? > > Hello everyone > What is everyones experience of harringtons and spinal rotation. My > surgeon says that if the fusuion is solid the spine cannot rotate > further, but mine is most certainly worse year on year. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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