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In a message dated 10/18/99 2:46:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

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The only company that makes the original design of a Lakhovsky device (with

the antennas) is Special Energy Products from the Netherland. The owner is

Hessel Hoornveld and his web page is www.specialep.nl >>

I went to this webpage and I could not click into it! I got the home page

and could get NO further!! Any suggestions? I would like to read it...

thanks

love and peace

Kiasi

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Hi Kiasi,

when you are on Special Energy Products web page, choose a language in the

box down the left, and you'll enter the site.

ThermOzone promotes Ozone therapy. We manufacture a unique design of steam

cabinet and sell ozone generator of medical grade quality manufactured by

the greatest engineers in that field in Canada. They are a lot cheaper than

the german machine (3 times less expensive).

If you need more infos on ozone therapy I can send you information in Word

format along with a picture of our cabinet. I will have more time next week

since I'm preparing a show to launch our new cabinet next weekend in

Montreal.

Do not hesitate to email me again if you need more infos,

Talk to you later,

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Dear Peggy:

The first couple of shots are the worse. I know it is hard to

believe but it does get better. Everyone I have seen usually gets

extremely ill after that first shot. Don't let it sway you away from the

rest of the treatment. Good luck. Marty

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Marty ,

I take it from your reply that you have had combo tx. was it effective? I

too am thinking of starting here pretty quick and as others am very scared

about side effects esp from what I read and the more i read the more i dont

want to try but think it is prob best to attempt something

Thank You

Suzy

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Subject: Re: Digest Number 37

Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 13:49:05 -0600

Dear Peggy:

The first couple of shots are the worse. I know it is hard to

believe but it does get better. Everyone I have seen usually gets

extremely ill after that first shot. Don't let it sway you away from the

rest of the treatment. Good luck. Marty

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Marty ,

I take it from your reply that you have had combo tx. was it effective? I

too am thinking of starting here pretty quick and as others am very scared

about side effects esp from what I read and the more i read the more i dont

want to try but think it is prob best to attempt something

Thank You

Suzy

From: " byteme " <byteme@...>

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Subject: Re: Digest Number 37

Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 13:49:05 -0600

Dear Peggy:

The first couple of shots are the worse. I know it is hard to

believe but it does get better. Everyone I have seen usually gets

extremely ill after that first shot. Don't let it sway you away from the

rest of the treatment. Good luck. Marty

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Hi Barbara,

Go to your account. Then go to 'View my groups' then 'Edit my

Groups' and in there you will see 'Membership' with a drop down box of 5

choices. Click 'Daily Digest' and then you will receive only one email

per day.

Regards,

Su

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, you are just about the only person who

has mentioned that Methotrexate has done

you any good. All I have been hearing is how

horrible it is, and that the side effects are not

worth it. My doctor wants me to try it, but I am

terrified. This is all new to me...

Thanks for some encouragement. =)

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From: scentart@...

Subject: Propolis abs

L...

How did you do the absolute form of this? I adore the scent of propolis.

Similar to cistus with all those honeyed notes.

Well, as you know, the typical absolute is obtained by solvent extraction

(usually with a hydrocarbon) of the scented material. The hydrocarbon is

evaporated to leave a concrete, which is then washed with alcohol to obtain

the absolute.

The recipe I found was in the Merck index, and it goes in reverse. It

states that 'extraction of the propolis with alcohol yields propolis wax.

The residue from the alcohol extraction is called 'propolis resin', yielding

'propolis balsam' on extraction with hot petroleum ether'. It then stated

that 'propolis balsam has a hyacinth odor and is said to contain 10%

cinnamyl alcohol.

Well, I had been working with some honey that had crystallized in the

comb. The only way to salvage it was to melt the whole thing. The solidified

cake of wax plus honey traces plus propolis was left over at the end, and of

course i wanted the 'good' beeswax without the rest. Plus I am fascinated by

propolis. So I cut off the discolored material. Then I washed it in lukewarm

water to get out as much honey as possible. I knew that it would have lots

of wax in it, and I also knew that use of a hydrocarbon would (naturally)

dissolve the wax- so I looked up 'propolis', found this description and said

'voila!'- I'll try it'! The alcohol also would take any honey with it, so

you couldn't stop at that point. The most hazardous part was the hot

petroleum ether (I can't remember what I used...I think it was a low residue

paint thinner...and I was prepared for the experiment to be a total bust.

But to my surprise I did get a small amount of material. Resuspended (1 more

time!) in alcohol, it was just lovely in aroma. The experiment was obviously

far from perfect, and now I need to painstakingly carve some propolis from

frames to do a repetition.

Spinoffs from this; 1. As I got into making my own incense and using

various resins, I finally tried some propolis. It's a wonderful addition to

incense if you are careful to avoid wax per se. I get the material by

scraping frames. Then I get it fairly cold but not frozen. The best propolis

is that which gets hard and can be 'cracked'. Wax, in comparison, is mushy,

indenting with your fingernail but not breaking. It gives a scent to the

incense which is somewhat reminiscent of sealing wax, if you've ever used

that. 2. I took a step back to what it is that the bees use to make

propolis. That's when I went off the deep end over balsam poplar and the

resin from the buds. I was buying hives from a fella up by Skowhegan, and he

mentioned that the bees were going into the swamp to work the poplar

buds..well, somewhere I read about the balsam poplar, and I was off on a

wild 2 year chase to identify the trees and catch them budding. This spring

was my successful foray. I picked buds for a few hours and then sat down

with a stick of incense, a lighter, and a knife- scraped off some of the

resin onto the incense stick and lit it. You guessed it..another great

material to add to incense.

I can just imagine if a warden would have come along about then...'what

are you doing?'...'smoking some really good bud, man'...

I brought it home and rattled my teenage son's cage by telling him I had

a great bag of bud, really resinous, man..they honestly look like little

bugs when they dry.

Arctander describes all 3 methods of extraction for balsam poplar buds-

tincture, absolute production, and steam distillation. So far (I hate to

admit it) I've been so busy that I have only done a bit of tincture and then

used that for a perfume base. It does some very strange things to the scent.

Not what you'd expect. It's a fixative, and something more. Dr. Duke's

website lets you know what a pharmacopeia there actually is in those buds.

I know you asked about the propolis. It's just that the poplar resin is a

step back. Burns like propolis, tastes like propolis, smells like propolis.

-- L Wakefield, owner and operator of the beastly truck heretik, that

refuses to stay between the lines when parking --

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Hi L....

GREEEAAAT post! I was reading it and found myself feeling like I was on the

adventure with you :-). Propolis absolute sounds wonderful. I would love to

get a whiff of it sometime.

I am really interested in the balsam poplar. My thought would be that it

has good fixative properties. You mentioned it does strange thing to scents.

Can you please expand on that? Do you mean strange in a good way or in a

bad way or does it considerably change the scent or what? I have been

spending a good deal of time trying to work on fixation so I am very

interested in these types of experiments.

Take care,

Sheryon

>From: " Wakefield " <heretik@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 37

>Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:02:10 -0400

>

>

>

> From: scentart@...

>Subject: Propolis abs

>

>L...

>

>How did you do the absolute form of this? I adore the scent of propolis.

>Similar to cistus with all those honeyed notes.

>

>

> Well, as you know, the typical absolute is obtained by solvent

>extraction

>(usually with a hydrocarbon) of the scented material. The hydrocarbon is

>evaporated to leave a concrete, which is then washed with alcohol to obtain

>the absolute.

>

> The recipe I found was in the Merck index, and it goes in reverse. It

>states that 'extraction of the propolis with alcohol yields propolis wax.

>The residue from the alcohol extraction is called 'propolis resin',

>yielding

>'propolis balsam' on extraction with hot petroleum ether'. It then stated

>that 'propolis balsam has a hyacinth odor and is said to contain 10%

>cinnamyl alcohol.

>

> Well, I had been working with some honey that had crystallized in the

>comb. The only way to salvage it was to melt the whole thing. The

>solidified

>cake of wax plus honey traces plus propolis was left over at the end, and

>of

>course i wanted the 'good' beeswax without the rest. Plus I am fascinated

>by

>propolis. So I cut off the discolored material. Then I washed it in

>lukewarm

>water to get out as much honey as possible. I knew that it would have lots

>of wax in it, and I also knew that use of a hydrocarbon would (naturally)

>dissolve the wax- so I looked up 'propolis', found this description and

>said

>'voila!'- I'll try it'! The alcohol also would take any honey with it, so

>you couldn't stop at that point. The most hazardous part was the hot

>petroleum ether (I can't remember what I used...I think it was a low

>residue

>paint thinner...and I was prepared for the experiment to be a total bust.

>But to my surprise I did get a small amount of material. Resuspended (1

>more

>time!) in alcohol, it was just lovely in aroma. The experiment was

>obviously

>far from perfect, and now I need to painstakingly carve some propolis from

>frames to do a repetition.

>

> Spinoffs from this; 1. As I got into making my own incense and using

>various resins, I finally tried some propolis. It's a wonderful addition to

>incense if you are careful to avoid wax per se. I get the material by

>scraping frames. Then I get it fairly cold but not frozen. The best

>propolis

>is that which gets hard and can be 'cracked'. Wax, in comparison, is mushy,

>indenting with your fingernail but not breaking. It gives a scent to the

>incense which is somewhat reminiscent of sealing wax, if you've ever used

>that. 2. I took a step back to what it is that the bees use to make

>propolis. That's when I went off the deep end over balsam poplar and the

>resin from the buds. I was buying hives from a fella up by Skowhegan, and

>he

>mentioned that the bees were going into the swamp to work the poplar

>buds..well, somewhere I read about the balsam poplar, and I was off on a

>wild 2 year chase to identify the trees and catch them budding. This spring

>was my successful foray. I picked buds for a few hours and then sat down

>with a stick of incense, a lighter, and a knife- scraped off some of the

>resin onto the incense stick and lit it. You guessed it..another great

>material to add to incense.

>

> I can just imagine if a warden would have come along about then...'what

>are you doing?'...'smoking some really good bud, man'...

>

> I brought it home and rattled my teenage son's cage by telling him I

>had

>a great bag of bud, really resinous, man..they honestly look like little

>bugs when they dry.

>

>

> Arctander describes all 3 methods of extraction for balsam poplar buds-

>tincture, absolute production, and steam distillation. So far (I hate to

>admit it) I've been so busy that I have only done a bit of tincture and

>then

>used that for a perfume base. It does some very strange things to the

>scent.

>Not what you'd expect. It's a fixative, and something more. Dr. Duke's

>website lets you know what a pharmacopeia there actually is in those buds.

>

> I know you asked about the propolis. It's just that the poplar resin is

>a

>step back. Burns like propolis, tastes like propolis, smells like propolis.

>

>-- L Wakefield, owner and operator of the beastly truck heretik, that

>refuses to stay between the lines when parking --

>

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Hi Judy,

I don't think I had a kidney problem - or if I did, then my Alzheimers is

acting up again because I can't remember it!

Unless you're addressing this to a different ....

Cheers,

R

> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:56:16 +1000 (EST)

> From: Judy Telford <judy_telford@...>

> Subject: Re:

>

> Hi

>

> Good to hear from you again, how is the kidney problem going, I have been

> thinking of you and wondering what is happening

>

> Judy T

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Thanks for all the great answers and support!  To answer some of your questions.  I did not sue when the rod came through because I was worriedthat if I did, I would not get help later if needed.  And, it was needed though not at Hopkins! Someone asked my age of the first surgery - I was 29 and am now 53.As far as the cervical surgery - I did see Dr. Lauerman and he does not do cervical surgeries.  Most good orthopedic doctors do this - I had good luck with Dr. Tozzi andstayed with him.  I remain worried about the size of the laminectomy without fusion.  If the spine is not stable the head rolls forward.  Since I have the flatback posture - my head is already not straight.  I see Dr. Tozzi tomorrow and am asking for PT.  I AM going to get my head upright again. (I'm stubborn - can you tell?)  I have beenback in the pool and that is helping.  I will be extremely upset if he has to go back in because I had all that good bone available for fusion then.  I will still wait on a full revision though I will ask him some questions tomorrow.  On Aug 8, 2005, at 8:23 PM, wrote:            From: "cammaltby" <cammaltby@...>

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