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Hi ,

It's nice to hear from you although I'm sorry for the reason you had

to write.

I know Zavie will probably email you because he's one that takes

Coumadin (warfarin) and another one was Kat from Oz but I don't know

if she's actively on the lists anymore.

For Zavie, he takes it because of his heart valve replacement but

for Kat it was because she had several clots. I THINK, although I

can't be sure, that in Kat's case, the estrogen she was taking

played a role in the clots forming. If you want to contact her

directly, I can find her email address if you want.

As for Gleevec being a potential cause, well I can't see how as

Gleevec typically inhibits PDGF which to me would suggest that it

would have a protective effect but of course I'm no expert and have

no real knowledge of how PDGF works anyway. Kinda silly for me to

even mention it I guess :)

I found this at

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000156.htm

" Risks include prolonged sitting, bedrest or immobilization (such as

on long plane or car trips), recent surgery or trauma (especially

hip, knee or gynecological surgery), fractures, childbirth within

the last 6 months and the use of medications such as estrogen and

birth control pills. Risks also include a history of polycythemia

vera, malignant tumor, and inherited or acquired hypercoagulability

(changes in the levels of blood clotting factors making the blood

more likely to clot). "

Didn't you have knee surgery recently? And didn't you have your INR

or PT checked a few years ago which showed that your platelets

weren't working well? Perhaps one of these was the cause?

I have no experience with checking blood while traveling so I can't

help you there but hopefully someone else will but is it safe for

you to go on a plane at this point??

Take care,

Tracey

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Hi ,

I don't have any helpful information for your questions bu just wanted to say

hello and let you know I'm thinking of you. Good for you in attempting to keep

your goals. This new physical challenge for you is something you didn't need.

But you're soldiering on as always.

Best of luck and let us know what you find out.

Best of everything,

L

[ ] Gleevec & DVTs

Hi all,

For this one, I thought I'd turn to the list that's always so helpful.

:-)

I was diagnosed this week with a DVT -- deep vein thrombosis (blood

clot). I may also have thrown some smaller clot(s) to my lungs. I had a

rapid CT test on Friday but haven't gotten the results yet. As good as

this test is, it's not really able to pick up smaller clots. I have so

far declined an angiogram (the definitive test) because my treatment

wouldn't really change anyway. It's an uncomfortable, invasive procedure

and I just don't want to do it.

Now I'm on heparin and warfarin. I'm doing the heparin injections until

the warfarin starts working. Tonight will be my fifth night of heparin

injections. I know of at least one other of you other CMLers on

warfarin, but I don't recall the reason.

I have two issues now. One is the cause, as I don't have any risk

factors for DVT. Although I have a desk job, I am up *all* the time, so

that's not really a risk. I believe that DVT is listed as a rare side

effect of Gleevec. It would be odd for it to happen after 4.5 years on

the drug, though, and my vascular specialists and heme don't believe

that's the cause. Anyone hear anything about this potential link with

Gleevec at all?

The other issue is that I am traveling this week for 11 or so days in

Alaska. I was going to do the half-marathon for the Leukemia Society's

Team in Training, but my docs have said it wouldn't be safe for me to do

that, for a number of reasons related to this incident. The main problem

with the travel is that I'm not stabilized yet on the warfarin and will

have to get my blood checked while I'm traveling (not to mention that

little problem of traveling while having a DVT!). Through all my years

of CML, I have never gotten my blood tested while traveling. I know

others of you have.

So I'm wondering if you have tips for how to get your blood checked when

you're out of state and possibly in a remote location (within the US).

Have you tried to prearrange the tests with a clinic you know is in the

area? Did you have some sort of letter from your doc? Have you run into

hassles? What has made it easier for you? How easy was it to get your

results?

As always, I appreciate any advice you can offer!

jennifer g.

www.cmlsupport.com

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>So I'm wondering if you have tips for how to get your blood checked when

>you're out of state and possibly in a remote location (within the US).

>Have you tried to prearrange the tests with a clinic you know is in the

>area? Did you have some sort of letter from your doc? Have you run into

>hassles? What has made it easier for you? How easy was it to get your

>results?

Hi ,

I am sorry you have the DVT, which we have already chatted about, and will

miss your run....but glad that you will get an Alaska visit in.

I have had blood tests a couple times, in Calif, with my doctor Rx from

Oregon........I would just make sure that the writing is legible!! Dr. D's

nurse always fills it out, and prints his name clearly....and he signs it.

Wherever you are I would look in the phone book for a medical lab....or a

drop in clinic....give them a call and tell them you want to just drop in

for the blood test.

The biggest problem I think will be if you want to see the results

immediately....which we are so used to........because some places are 'draw

stations' only and then send it on to a lab. So, I would ask that question

also. But overall, it was not that inconvenient.

One thing about the clotting....my local onc said to me just recently that

people with leukemia have a greater tendency for clots????? I had a little

chest pain with deep breathing and he wanted to rule out a pulmonary

embolism for that reason....and I was 'clean'.

Have a fun trip.

Maui Nanc

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Hi ,

Four years ago, while in Hawaii, I had to get a blood test. My doc

just wrote the order for the blood work, then I took it into a local

doctor. They did the blood work right there, then faxed the results

to my local doc. I didn't prearrange it, just looked up a local

doctor (family practioner) when I got there. There's bound to be a

local doctor in Anchorage that you could get in to see for blood work.

They should be able to get you in one day while you're there.

I know you were looking forward to the race - but there will be other

races in your future. Take care of yourself FIRST!

Hope to see you in Anchorage,

Gale

> Hi all,

>

> For this one, I thought I'd turn to the list that's always so

helpful.

> :-)

>

> I was diagnosed this week with a DVT -- deep vein thrombosis (blood

> clot). I may also have thrown some smaller clot(s) to my lungs. I

had a

> rapid CT test on Friday but haven't gotten the results yet. As good

as

> this test is, it's not really able to pick up smaller clots. I have

so

> far declined an angiogram (the definitive test) because my treatment

> wouldn't really change anyway. It's an uncomfortable, invasive

procedure

> and I just don't want to do it.

>

> Now I'm on heparin and warfarin. I'm doing the heparin injections

until

> the warfarin starts working. Tonight will be my fifth night of

heparin

> injections. I know of at least one other of you other CMLers on

> warfarin, but I don't recall the reason.

>

> I have two issues now. One is the cause, as I don't have any risk

> factors for DVT. Although I have a desk job, I am up *all* the

time, so

> that's not really a risk. I believe that DVT is listed as a rare

side

> effect of Gleevec. It would be odd for it to happen after 4.5 years

on

> the drug, though, and my vascular specialists and heme don't believe

> that's the cause. Anyone hear anything about this potential link

with

> Gleevec at all?

>

> The other issue is that I am traveling this week for 11 or so days

in

> Alaska. I was going to do the half-marathon for the Leukemia

Society's

> Team in Training, but my docs have said it wouldn't be safe for me

to do

> that, for a number of reasons related to this incident. The main

problem

> with the travel is that I'm not stabilized yet on the warfarin and

will

> have to get my blood checked while I'm traveling (not to mention

that

> little problem of traveling while having a DVT!). Through all my

years

> of CML, I have never gotten my blood tested while traveling. I know

> others of you have.

>

> So I'm wondering if you have tips for how to get your blood checked

when

> you're out of state and possibly in a remote location (within the

US).

> Have you tried to prearrange the tests with a clinic you know is in

the

> area? Did you have some sort of letter from your doc? Have you run

into

> hassles? What has made it easier for you? How easy was it to get

your

> results?

>

> As always, I appreciate any advice you can offer!

>

> jennifer g.

> www.cmlsupport.com

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I am sorry to hear about this problem. How did you find out about DVT. Any

symptoms?

Best of luck and God Bless

T

[ ] Gleevec & DVTs

Hi all,

For this one, I thought I'd turn to the list that's always so helpful.

:-)

I was diagnosed this week with a DVT -- deep vein thrombosis (blood

clot). I may also have thrown some smaller clot(s) to my lungs. I had a

rapid CT test on Friday but haven't gotten the results yet. As good as

this test is, it's not really able to pick up smaller clots. I have so

far declined an angiogram (the definitive test) because my treatment

wouldn't really change anyway. It's an uncomfortable, invasive procedure

and I just don't want to do it.

Now I'm on heparin and warfarin. I'm doing the heparin injections until

the warfarin starts working. Tonight will be my fifth night of heparin

injections. I know of at least one other of you other CMLers on

warfarin, but I don't recall the reason.

I have two issues now. One is the cause, as I don't have any risk

factors for DVT. Although I have a desk job, I am up *all* the time, so

that's not really a risk. I believe that DVT is listed as a rare side

effect of Gleevec. It would be odd for it to happen after 4.5 years on

the drug, though, and my vascular specialists and heme don't believe

that's the cause. Anyone hear anything about this potential link with

Gleevec at all?

The other issue is that I am traveling this week for 11 or so days in

Alaska. I was going to do the half-marathon for the Leukemia Society's

Team in Training, but my docs have said it wouldn't be safe for me to do

that, for a number of reasons related to this incident. The main problem

with the travel is that I'm not stabilized yet on the warfarin and will

have to get my blood checked while I'm traveling (not to mention that

little problem of traveling while having a DVT!). Through all my years

of CML, I have never gotten my blood tested while traveling. I know

others of you have.

So I'm wondering if you have tips for how to get your blood checked when

you're out of state and possibly in a remote location (within the US).

Have you tried to prearrange the tests with a clinic you know is in the

area? Did you have some sort of letter from your doc? Have you run into

hassles? What has made it easier for you? How easy was it to get your

results?

As always, I appreciate any advice you can offer!

jennifer g.

www.cmlsupport.com

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Hi ,

Sorry for your troubles, and here's to a speedy recovery.

I haven't heard anything specifically about Gleevec and the incidence

of DVT's, however, I recall hearing that women of child bearing ages

on Gleevec and birth control pills containing oestrogen could be at a

higher risk. My thought was that it would probably have to do more

with the action of the birth control pill's than Gleevec.

That being said, I have worked for quite a few years in marketing and

sales of the Chronic wounds area of healthcare. My particular area

of focus is in venous leg ulcers. Unfortunately 80% of people who

develop a DVT may be at a higher risk to develop a VLU later on in

life.

Have your doctors spoken to you about graduated compression stockings

or thoromebotic deterrent stockings (TED)(tighter around the foot

than higher up the leg). Too much standing or too much sitting is

not good. While you are travelling either by plane or car you should

exercise your legs once every hour by pulling your toes towards your

knees and then relaxing or pressing down on the ball of your feet

while raising the heels. Also while travelling you should drink lots

of water, do not cross your legs and wear loose fitting clothing,

with the exception of the compression stockings I guess;>)

You do exercise a lot running all these marathons so it is weird that

you would develop a DVT. I am just wondering if the leg surgery you

had last year may have helped you develop this risk for a DVT?

Usually any kind of surgery puts a person at a higher risk.

Happy trails to you and best wishes for your complete recovery.

Cheryl-Anne

> Hi all,

>

> For this one, I thought I'd turn to the list that's always so

helpful.

> :-)

>

>

> I have two issues now. One is the cause, as I don't have any risk

> factors for DVT. Although I have a desk job, I am up *all* the

time, so

> that's not really a risk. I believe that DVT is listed as a rare

side

> effect of Gleevec. It would be odd for it to happen after 4.5 years

on

> the drug, though, and my vascular specialists and heme don't believe

> that's the cause. Anyone hear anything about this potential link

with

> Gleevec at all?

>

> The other issue is that I am traveling this week for 11 or so days

in

> Alaska.

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Hi ,

About six weeks after my initial dx, I traveled to visit my son in a

town of 70,000 in central Illinois. I got a written order from my

onc for the blood work and went to the local hospital. They drew the

blood and faxed the results back to my onc in Denver. I did call the

hospital before I left home, just to make sure I dotted the I's and

crossed the T's.

Best of luck at the marathon!

Terry Nowell

Through all my years

> of CML, I have never gotten my blood tested while traveling. I know

> others of you have.

>

> So I'm wondering if you have tips for how to get your blood checked

when

> you're out of state and possibly in a remote location (within the

US).

> Have you tried to prearrange the tests with a clinic you know is in

the

> area? Did you have some sort of letter from your doc? Have you run

into

> hassles? What has made it easier for you? How easy was it to get

your

> results?

>

> As always, I appreciate any advice you can offer!

>

> jennifer g.

> www.cmlsupport.com

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Jen,

Sorry to hear about the DVT, and I have no medical advise to give

you, because that's not my area of expertise, but I did find this

information on the Novartis site about warfarin and Gleevec:

Similarly, certain drugs may force the enzymes to put Gleevec aside,

which can result in higher or lower than expected levels of Gleevec

in the bloodstream. These effects are known as drug-drug

interactions. In particular, Tylenol® (acetaminophen)*, birth

control pills (oral contraceptives), blood thinners (especially

warfarin, Coumadin®+), herbal products (e.g., St. 's Wort),

erythromycin, phenytoin (e.g., Dilantin®‡, and anticonvulsants, are

all broken down by the same enzymes that metabolize Gleevec®. Drug-

drug interactions may therefore occur with these medications.

I'm just wondering whether there could be a drug-drug interaction

among your current medications which when combined with a recent

surgery as well as the fact that you're a CML patient caused the DVT

to occur. Having HAD a drug-drug interaction early in my treatment

causes me to be a bit more sensitive to that possibility! I assume

your physician is aware of the potential effect of warfarin-Gleevec.

Please take care of yourself while traveling! And have a wonderful

time in Alaska!

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Hi everyone,

First, thanks for all of your kind comments. I've had 7 injections of

heparin so far and my stomach is a mass of purple and red and tiny

little hematomas from all of the jabs. And the nurses tell me that I

don't look half bad compared to some of the poor folks they see!

Thankfully, I am not one to wear those little midriff-baring tops! :-)

Unfortunately, my docs can't just write a prescription for the INR

testing because they don't have prescribing privileges in Alaska. It

would be illegal, and they've all made it clear they will not do that.

All they can do is write a letter or something, then I need to find a

clinic that will honor the letter and also give me my results

immediately - just as you pointed out, . But actually, I'm not

technically allowed to " dose myself " with the warfarin, anyway, which I

may need to do, so they may not even give me the results since I could

make changes in my dosage based on the results they give me! Ack. It

would be risky for them, liability and all. I'm hoping , as some of you

suggested, to make a few phone calls and see what I can get straightened

out before I even go up there. I'm also going to be in Homer and Kodiak,

which are a bit more remote than Anchorage, so we'll see how easy that

is!

Tracey, nope -- I didn't have knee surgery, so that wasn't it. I've

gotten my bleeding times and platelets checked a few times in the last

few years (it's been over 3 yrs since that episode) and have not had a

problem. I did have a big thrombophilia workup, so hopefully that will

shed some light on things once I get the results, since I don't have any

risk factors (Cheryl - including the pill).

Cheryl, thanks for your suggestions about traveling. I did a bunch of

research on that too. Actually, I do now have some lovely prescription

compression stockings, which the vascular people told me I'm supposed to

wear for a year. Wheeee.... (Apparently, once you have a clot, you're at

high risk for more.) They also said the surgery was too long ago to be

causing a problem now.

, you are right that there's a drug interaction between Gleevec

and warfarin. What happens, apparently, is that this interaction can

make you more likely to bleed. So they're just more careful in the

monitoring. When you start looking at all of the drugs and what each one

does on its own, nevermind when you're taking multiple drugs, it's

scary. Fortunately, I wasn't really taking any meds except for the

Gleevec - until now.

Barb, I also will not forget that trip to Phoenix. It was sure nice

meeting you in person! Unfortunately, I'm apparently one of the last

holdouts without a cell phone. My docs has also suggested having the

results faxed to them and then they'd just ring me. Alas, no cell phone

-- and I am NOT going to get one. :-) One last little bit of freedom

and defiance of technology! ;-) Does anyone else not have a cell??!

Zavie - will send you a note shortly.

Thanks a bunch, all. Sorry I am not a better participant here these

days.

jennifer g.

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I have had blood tests a couple times, in Calif, with my doctor Rx from

Oregon........I would just make sure that the writing is legible!! Dr.

D's

nurse always fills it out, and prints his name clearly....and he signs

it.

Wherever you are I would look in the phone book for a medical lab....or

a

drop in clinic....give them a call and tell them you want to just drop

in

for the blood test.

The biggest problem I think will be if you want to see the results

immediately....which we are so used to........because some places are

'draw

stations' only and then send it on to a lab. So, I would ask that

question

also. But overall, it was not that inconvenient.

One thing about the clotting....my local onc said to me just recently

that

people with leukemia have a greater tendency for clots????? I had a

little

chest pain with deep breathing and he wanted to rule out a pulmonary

embolism for that reason....and I was 'clean'.

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Hi ,

I'm so sorry to hear of this new development. What can they do to

fix it? When we went back to North Carolina a few years ago, Bob had

to have blood tests. The dr just wrote a prescription and we took it

to the hospital in Statesville. We were able to pick up the results

later that day. Perhaps your dr can write that on the prescription

that you want a copy of the results, plus faxing one to him. I hope

you will be able to make the trip, you have planned so long for this.

Good luck and blessed be.

love nancy and bob

> Hi all,

>

> For this one, I thought I'd turn to the list that's always so

helpful.

> :-)

>

> I was diagnosed this week with a DVT -- deep vein thrombosis (blood

> clot). I may also have thrown some smaller clot(s) to my lungs. I

had a

> rapid CT test on Friday but haven't gotten the results yet. As good

as

> this test is, it's not really able to pick up smaller clots. I have

so

> far declined an angiogram (the definitive test) because my treatment

> wouldn't really change anyway. It's an uncomfortable, invasive

procedure

> and I just don't want to do it.

>

> Now I'm on heparin and warfarin. I'm doing the heparin injections

until

> the warfarin starts working. Tonight will be my fifth night of

heparin

> injections. I know of at least one other of you other CMLers on

> warfarin, but I don't recall the reason.

>

> I have two issues now. One is the cause, as I don't have any risk

> factors for DVT. Although I have a desk job, I am up *all* the

time, so

> that's not really a risk. I believe that DVT is listed as a rare

side

> effect of Gleevec. It would be odd for it to happen after 4.5 years

on

> the drug, though, and my vascular specialists and heme don't believe

> that's the cause. Anyone hear anything about this potential link

with

> Gleevec at all?

>

> The other issue is that I am traveling this week for 11 or so days

in

> Alaska. I was going to do the half-marathon for the Leukemia

Society's

> Team in Training, but my docs have said it wouldn't be safe for me

to do

> that, for a number of reasons related to this incident. The main

problem

> with the travel is that I'm not stabilized yet on the warfarin and

will

> have to get my blood checked while I'm traveling (not to mention

that

> little problem of traveling while having a DVT!). Through all my

years

> of CML, I have never gotten my blood tested while traveling. I know

> others of you have.

>

> So I'm wondering if you have tips for how to get your blood checked

when

> you're out of state and possibly in a remote location (within the

US).

> Have you tried to prearrange the tests with a clinic you know is in

the

> area? Did you have some sort of letter from your doc? Have you run

into

> hassles? What has made it easier for you? How easy was it to get

your

> results?

>

> As always, I appreciate any advice you can offer!

>

> jennifer g.

> www.cmlsupport.com

>

>

>

>

>

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At 09:37 PM 6/12/05 -0500, you wrote:

>Unfortunately, my docs can't just write a prescription for the INR

>testing because they don't have prescribing privileges in Alaska. It

>would be illegal, and they've all made it clear they will not do that.

>All they can do is write a letter or something, then I need to find a

>clinic that will honor the letter and also give me my results

>immediately - just as you pointed out, . But actually, I'm not

>technically allowed to " dose myself " with the warfarin, anyway, which I

>may need to do, so they may not even give me the results since I could

>make changes in my dosage based on the results they give me! Ack. It

>would be risky for them, liability and all. I'm hoping , as some of you

>suggested, to make a few phone calls and see what I can get straightened

>out before I even go up there. I'm also going to be in Homer and Kodiak,

>which are a bit more remote than Anchorage, so we'll see how easy that

>is!

Hi .....

what's the deal with no privileges in Alaska.....I have never heard of that!

I am assuming that you are saying they don't have privileges in any other

state?

All of the rest of us are saying that we took our oncologist's Rx for blood

testing

to another state and it was honored....without a problem! Is this because

they

function as an HMO and can't treat elsewhere?

It seems that even if you have a letter and showed up at a clinic, they

might have

to confirm that it was authentic.....and not you trying to get something on

your

own.......I suppose they would routinely notarize the letter. Your

situation does

not seem typical at all.........but also the letter wants to clearly state

that they

are to give the results to the patient (as Dr. Druker always

writes).............

and I don't have a cell phone either!! don't want to be plugged into one.

Hope everything gets worked out.

Maui Nanc

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Your mood certainly isn't ailing! Glad you're taking this complication in

stride. :-)

Be careful and be well,

L

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I have had blood tests a couple times, in Calif, with my doctor Rx from

Oregon........I would just make sure that the writing is legible!! Dr.

D's

nurse always fills it out, and prints his name clearly....and he signs

it.

Wherever you are I would look in the phone book for a medical lab....or

a

drop in clinic....give them a call and tell them you want to just drop

in

for the blood test.

The biggest problem I think will be if you want to see the results

immediately....which we are so used to........because some places are

'draw

stations' only and then send it on to a lab. So, I would ask that

question

also. But overall, it was not that inconvenient.

One thing about the clotting....my local onc said to me just recently

that

people with leukemia have a greater tendency for clots????? I had a

little

chest pain with deep breathing and he wanted to rule out a pulmonary

embolism for that reason....and I was 'clean'.

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Oh, Tracey, I should have clarified that those bleeding problems I had a

few years back were actually because my blood was NOT clotting properly.

Now I'm overcompensating apparently. :-)

jennifer g.

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<snip>

Tracey, nope -- I didn't have knee surgery, so that wasn't it. I've

gotten my bleeding times and platelets checked a few times in the last

few years (it's been over 3 yrs since that episode) and have not had a

problem. I did have a big thrombophilia workup, so hopefully that will

shed some light on things once I get the results, since I don't have any

risk factors (Cheryl - including the pill).

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Hi all,

For those of you who have been, no doubt, on the edge of your seats, let

me give you a quick update on my little DVT situation. Unfortunately,

the results of my CT scan from last Friday were not good, showing clots

in both lungs (which explains the symptoms I had last week that made me

think I was going to die). The docs told me that they now think I had a

large DVT that ruptured, sending a " shower " of clots to my lungs.

Fortunately, they apparently were not big enough to actually be fatal.

After much discussion, my vascular specialist and I reached a compromise

about the treatment while in Alaska for almost 2 weeks. Instead of

worrying about warfarin dosing (where you can risk either bleeding out

or having another clot), we decided to tide me over with some daily

self-injections of heparin. That way, I will not need any monitoring.

It's certainly not ideal, but it'll work for now (they actually told me

it would not be safe to go on the trip, but I am stubborn - or foolish,

or both). :-) Yay.

I will spare you the details of how many people read me the riot act for

not going to the ER when I actually felt like I was going to die earlier

this month, which in retrospect we now know was the clots being thrown

to the lungs.

However, the one practical tip that I did find very useful and that some

of you may also find useful, passed along by my own sister the RN, is

this:

If you find yourself spending more than 10 minutes debating whether you

should see a health care provider about something that is bothering you,

***see the provider.***

Thanks all for your advice!!

jennifer g.

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>However, the one practical tip that I did find very useful and that some

>of you may also find useful, passed along by my own sister the RN, is

>this:

>

>If you find yourself spending more than 10 minutes debating whether you

>should see a health care provider about something that is bothering you,

>***see the provider.***

Hey (my friend) the hard head,

when you get the feeling like you are going to die.....yeah, good time to

go to the ER..........

I hope that you are not pushing the envelop too much by going to Alaska

(I know you are happily singing " Off to Alaska... " , so heed those messages

that your body gives you.......and have fun.

Maui Nanc

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Hey Nanc, \

Is there really such a song?? I'd love to get the lyrics.

jennifer g, the hard-headed. :-)

RE: [ ] Gleevec & DVTs

I hope that you are not pushing the envelop too much by going to Alaska

(I know you are happily singing " Off to Alaska... " , so heed those

messages

that your body gives you.......and have fun.

Maui Nanc

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At 11:55 PM 6/13/05 -0500, you wrote:

>Hey Nanc, \

>

>

>Is there really such a song?? I'd love to get the lyrics.

>

>jennifer g, the hard-headed. :-)

yes there is such a song....before your time!....and I can hear the

tune in my head, but can't remember the lyrics.......

maybe some other ol' timer will remember it.....

I'm thinking it was something like a nie Cash type song....

went something like.....

" In 18-- (can't remember the year)

and the chorus was " off...to Alaska....

anyone out there remember this song....a new theme song for !

Maui Nanc

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Hi and ,

Could this be the song? (It's a Denver song). --I hope

you have a wonderful trip but if you do feel like you're dying please

get help immediately (you must drive your poor mother nuts with worry)!

Best wishes,

Dorothy

American Child

Goin' up to Alaska, up to the land of the Midnight Sun

where the whale and polar bear run o'er the icy blue sea

Goin' up to Alaska, up to the north and the pioneer life

where courage and strength still survive and a man can be free

American Child does the call of the wild

ever sing thru the mist of your dreams?

Does it fly with the wind when you waken again?

When it's gone do you know what it means?

Can you picture the time when a man had to find

his own way through an unbroken land

Before the machine changed the blue and the green

to something you can't understand?

American Child there's a burning inside you

that calls you away through the cold

to come back again to all that you've been

Can't you see that it's time to come home

To the flowers and the seas and the rivers and the trees

and the earth who's the mother of all?

A promise once made will it shine, will it fade

will we rise with the vision or fall?

Goin' up to Alaska, up to the land of the Midnight Sun

where the whale and polar bear run o'er the icy blue sea

Goin' up to Alaska, up to the north and the pioneer life

where courage and strength still survive and a man can be free

Men can be free

Goin' up to Alaska,

goin' up to Alaska,

goin' up to Alaska

Cogan wrote:

> At 11:55 PM 6/13/05 -0500, you wrote:

> >Hey Nanc, \

> >

> >

> >Is there really such a song?? I'd love to get the lyrics.

> >

> >jennifer g, the hard-headed. :-)

>

>

> yes there is such a song....before your time!....and I can hear the

> tune in my head, but can't remember the lyrics.......

>

> maybe some other ol' timer will remember it.....

> I'm thinking it was something like a nie Cash type song....

> went something like.....

> " In 18-- (can't remember the year)

> and the chorus was " off...to Alaska....

>

> anyone out there remember this song....a new theme song for !

>

> Maui Nanc

>

>

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Hi Nance, ,

The song is " North to Alaska " by ny Horton

*Way up north,way up north

North to Alaska

They go north,to Russia's home

North to Alaska

They go north,to Russia's home

Big Sam left Seattle in the year of ninety two

With Pratt,his partner and brother too

They crossed the Yukon River

And found the bonanza gold

Below that old white mountain

Just a little southeast of Nome

Sam crossed the majestic mountains

To the valleys far below

He talked to his team of huskies

As he mushed 'em through the snow

With the northern lights a-running wild

In the land of the midnight sun

Yes,Sam McCord was a mighty man

In the year of 19 1

**Where the river is winding

Big nuggets they're finding

North to Alaska

They go north,to Russia's home

(Repeat *)

turned to Sam with his gold in his hand

Said, Sam you're a-lookin'at a lonely, lonely man

I'd trade all the gold that's buried in this land

For one small band of gold a placed

On sweet little Ginnies hand

Cause a man needs a woman to love him all the time

Remember, Sam, a true love is so hard to find

I'd build for my Ginnie a honeymoon home

Below that old white mountain

Just a little southeast of Nome

(Repeat **)

>Is there really such a song?? I'd love to get the lyrics.

>

>jennifer g, the hard-headed. :-)

yes there is such a song....before your time!....and I can hear the

tune in my head, but can't remember the lyrics.......

maybe some other ol' timer will remember it.....

I'm thinking it was something like a nie Cash type song....

went something like.....

" In 18-- (can't remember the year)

and the chorus was " off...to Alaska....

anyone out there remember this song....a new theme song for !

Maui Nanc

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At 07:55 AM 6/14/05 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Nance, ,

>

>The song is " North to Alaska " by ny Horton

>

>

>*Way up north,way up north

>North to Alaska

>They go north,to Russia's home

>North to Alaska

>They go north,to Russia's home

Ya got it Zavie..............I knew there was another ol' timer on the list!!

Wow......do we get all the information we need on this list.

So , now you have your marching song......have a good and SAFE

trip to Alaska.

And thanks Dorothy for another one for to sing as well.

Maui Nanc

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Dear ,

I wanted to tell you that I am sorry to hear that you having to deal with

another difficulty...

I also wanted to say that I admire your courage and I have always admired

you! I will be thinking of you while you are on your trip and praying that

all goes well.

Oh and while you are there, remember this...

If for any reason you feel like you have a problem that last for longer than

10 minutes and you are considering seeing a Doctor - Please go to the

Emergency room!

Great advice Sis:)

M

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Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:44:26 -0500

From: " jennifer g " <jenniferg@...>

Subject: RE: Gleevec & DVTs

Hi all,

For those of you who have been, no doubt, on the edge of your seats, let

me give you a quick update on my little DVT situation. Unfortunately,

the results of my CT scan from last Friday were not good, showing clots

in both lungs (which explains the symptoms I had last week that made me

think I was going to die). The docs told me that they now think I had a

large DVT that ruptured, sending a " shower " of clots to my lungs.

Fortunately, they apparently were not big enough to actually be fatal.

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Hi all,

Just another quick update.

Unfortunately, I had a trip to the ER yesterday and apparently may have

thrown more clots to my lungs. My doctors had previously told me it was

unsafe for me to travel, and this episode yesterday makes it clear to

me, as well as them, that it would not be prudent to travel right now.

As you can understand, it's a huge disappointment for me and I'm

especially saddened that I will not be in Anchorage to cheer on the

people involved in Team in Training who are out there working so hard on

behalf of leukemia patients.

jennifer g.

www.cmlsupport.com

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Dear :

Please let us know how you are. What can be done about the clots?

Sincerely, MJH

n , " jennifer g " <jenniferg@c...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> Just another quick update.

>

> Unfortunately, I had a trip to the ER yesterday and apparently may

have

> thrown more clots to my lungs. My doctors had previously told me it

was

> unsafe for me to travel, and this episode yesterday makes it clear

to

> me, as well as them, that it would not be prudent to travel right

now.

> As you can understand, it's a huge disappointment for me and I'm

> especially saddened that I will not be in Anchorage to cheer on the

> people involved in Team in Training who are out there working so

hard on

> behalf of leukemia patients.

>

> jennifer g.

> www.cmlsupport.com

>

>

>

>

>

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So sorry you have to miss the adventure but very glad your trip t the ER

happened before instead of during the trip!

Be well,

L

RE: [ ] RE: Gleevec & DVTs

Hi all,

Just another quick update.

Unfortunately, I had a trip to the ER yesterday and apparently may have

thrown more clots to my lungs. My doctors had previously told me it was

unsafe for me to travel, and this episode yesterday makes it clear to

me, as well as them, that it would not be prudent to travel right now.

As you can understand, it's a huge disappointment for me and I'm

especially saddened that I will not be in Anchorage to cheer on the

people involved in Team in Training who are out there working so hard on

behalf of leukemia patients.

jennifer g.

www.cmlsupport.com

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I'm so sorry you're having these troubles. I hope your doctors are able to get

you on the right medications that will dissolve these clots and get you out of

danger ASAP! Keep us posted.

Adrienne

jennifer g <jenniferg@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Just another quick update.

Unfortunately, I had a trip to the ER yesterday and apparently may have

thrown more clots to my lungs. My doctors had previously told me it was

unsafe for me to travel, and this episode yesterday makes it clear to

me, as well as them, that it would not be prudent to travel right now.

As you can understand, it's a huge disappointment for me and I'm

especially saddened that I will not be in Anchorage to cheer on the

people involved in Team in Training who are out there working so hard on

behalf of leukemia patients.

jennifer g.

www.cmlsupport.com

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