Eye problems

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Dear Lois,

I found this link whilst searching for something

else....it certainly pertains to my kids' problems....(If link doesn't work

here please mail me privately)

<A HREF= " http://www.autism.org/visual.html " >vision therapy</A>

All the best....Liz Lucy

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Its me Lois I messed yp his age its 5 yrs thanks, Lois

lois noland wrote:

> From: lois noland <jlois@...>

>

> Hi everyone, I'am writing for a friend thats not on the list but has a

> grandson 9age 50 who has PDD. She said his one eye will go up and the

> other eye will go down and it lasts about 1-2 min. Could it be seizers?

> Has anyone else ever had this with there child? Thanks for any

> information. I will send it her way. Lois (mom to JJ bug)

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Liz, Thanks a Lot!!!!

Have a good day!! Lois

Lizanj@... wrote:

> From: Lizanj@...

>

> Dear Lois,

> I found this link whilst searching for something

> else....it certainly pertains to my kids' problems....(If link doesn't work

> here please mail me privately)

> <A HREF= " http://www.autism.org/visual.html " >vision therapy</A>

>

> All the best....Liz Lucy

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I don't know whether it is seizures or not, but FYI s Hopkins has now

undertaken a study for 12 and up with Asberger's Syndrome or those who are

more verbal with autism about eye movement of those with the disorder.

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In a message dated 5/17/99 6:42:35 PM GMT Daylight Time, snet@...

writes:

> ois, Hi my name is Annette. I have a son who is 7 years old. He is

> developmentaly delayed with severe speech delay and autistic

> charactaristics. We have been seeing Dr. Goldberg in CA for about 1 year

> now. He is treating for immune and neurological dysfuntion. He is

on

> several meds which seem to be helping.

Hello Annette, I'd really like to know what what meds your son is on and if

they are prescribed by Dr.Goldberg...my son is similar to yours. Regarding

the 'lazy-eye'/ Strabismus....it's common in severe autism and Angelman

Syndrome....all the best...Liz.

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<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> > Hi everyone, I'am writing for a friend

thats not on the list but has a

> > grandson 9age 50 who has PDD. She said his one eye will go up and the

> > other eye will go down and it lasts about 1-2 min. Could it be seizers?

> > Has anyone else ever had this with there child? Thanks for any

> > information. I will send it her way. Lois (mom to JJ bug)

> >

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[Ophthalmologic signs in children with autism]

Author

Denis D; Burillon C; Livet MO; Burguière O

Address

DÆepartement de Strabologie et d'OphtalmopÆediatrie,

HÈopital La

Timone, Marseille.

Source

J Fr Ophtalmol, 1997, 20:2, 103-10

Abstract

PURPOSE: The purpose of

this study was to

screen ophthalmologic findings in autistic children.

MATERIALS AND

METHODS: Ten autistic children, 6 girls and 4 boys,

underwent a

complete ophthalmologic examination in the Department of

Pediatric

Ophthalmology at the Hospital La Timone, Marseilles,

France. Their age

ranged from 1 to 14 years (mean = 8.5 +/- 3.8). RESULTS:

Refraction

showed hypermetropia in 7 cases (70%), astigmatism more

than 1

diopter in 6 cases (60%), bilateral astigmatism in 4 cases

(40%) and

unilateral astigmatism in 2 cases (20%). Astigmatism axis

was oblique for

8 eyes, with the rule for 6 eyes and against the rule for

2 eyes.

Strabismus was present in 6 cases (60%) including 4 cases

of exotropia.

Fundus examination found pallor of the optic disc in 4

cases.

CONCLUSION: Ophthalmologic findings in autistic children

appear to

be mainly unilateral or bilateral astigmatism and

binocular vision troubles.

They can lead to amblyopia with the risk of functional

loss of vision.

Early diagnosis of visual problems in autistic children is

also essential in

order to be able to propose adequate psychological and

educational

cares for the children and their family.

</color><FontFamily><param>Arial</param> & Max Desorgher

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....Hi, I mentioned in aprevious posting that 'stabismus' /lazy-eye....is

common in severely autistic children and angelmans syndrome; there is

something available called 'vision therapy....here's a link....(if it doesn't

work, please mail me and I'll send it again off-list)

<A HREF= " http://www.autism.org/visual.html " >vision therapy</A> ....Liz.

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Lois, Hi my name is Annette. I have a son who is 7 years old. He is

developmentaly delayed with severe speech delay and autistic

charactaristics. We have been seeing Dr. Goldberg in CA for about 1 year

now. He is treating for immune and neurological dysfuntion. He is on

several meds which seem to be helping. It was wierd to read your question

re: eye problems. Within the past month, when my son tries to focus on

something, his right eye will be looking at the object, but his left eye

will be pointing outward. This happens for a about a minute then his left

eye will center. I am reassured that this is not from his meds, and have

heard the term " lazy eye " . I do have an appointment with an eye dr. on June

10th and if your interested I can let you know what they say. I also was

concerned if these were seizures.......Also wanted to ask you about

Eflax...where did you hear about this and what is it used for.....thanks

annette

Re: eye problems

> From: lois noland <jlois@...>

>

> Its me Lois I messed yp his age its 5 yrs thanks, Lois

>

> lois noland wrote:

>

> > From: lois noland <jlois@...>

> >

> > Hi everyone, I'am writing for a friend thats not on the list but has a

> > grandson 9age 50 who has PDD. She said his one eye will go up and the

> > other eye will go down and it lasts about 1-2 min. Could it be seizers?

> > Has anyone else ever had this with there child? Thanks for any

> > information. I will send it her way. Lois (mom to JJ bug)

> >

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I too was going to suggest vision therapy with the assistance of behavioral

optometry glasses.

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My ex is currently dropping steroids into his EYE because his cornea

transplant is being rejected. Into his EYE!?!! Oh I wish he'd stop

listening to doctors who aren't the least bit interested in finding the

cause for something. This is the second time his transplant has been

rejected this year! WHAT is causing it? It's going to keep rejecting

and

rejecting until they figure that out - right?!!

pardon my venting.

mercury and copper are 2 of the most common causes of chronic eye

conditions. I have lots of documentation at work. 2 opthamologist told

me I had Fuch's Disease and was going blind 4 years ago or so. But a

little research found such conditions(and cataracts,

macula degeneration, iritis,etc.) are commonly caused by mercury(or

copper) accumulating in the endothelial layer of the cornea(as in Fuch's

or cataracts) and causing free radical oxidative damage that causes the

cornea to cloud and deteriorate.

After amalgam replacement not only is my Fuch's getting better to my

opthamologist's astonishment, but so is my near sightedness. I'm

periodically having to have my prescription weakened and can drive

without glasses for the first time in 30 years.

I know of at least 20 others with similar experience, Andy being one I

think.

Bernie

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Bernie, My uncle has Macular problems, could you send me the citations for this research? I would like to send it to him. thanks, Heidi mercury and copper are 2 of the most common causes of chronic eyeconditions. I have lots of documentation at work. 2 opthamologist toldme I had Fuch's Disease and was going blind 4 years ago or so. But alittle research found such conditions(and cataracts,macula degeneration, iritis,etc.) are commonly caused by mercury(orcopper) accumulating in the endothelial layer of the cornea(as in Fuch'sor cataracts) and causing free radical oxidative damage that causes thecornea to cloud and deteriorate.After amalgam replacement not only is my Fuch's getting better to myopthamologist's astonishment, but so is my near sightedness. I'mperiodically having to have my prescription weakened and can drivewithout glasses for the first time in 30 years.I know of at least 20 others with similar experience, Andy being one Ithink.Bernie

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I agree with you, Wanda and Elly. Eye pain must be evaluated immediately.

Glad you are taking it seriously.

RE: [ ] Vioxx + Methotrexate

>

>

> I developed an inflammation of the eye and found myself at the Emergency

> Room 2 Halloween's ago in excrutiating pain and light sensitivity to the

> point where I couldn't even open my eye. I had increasing pain in the

eye

> and increasing light sensitivity over a few days before the trip to the

ER.

> After initial ER treatment to get me through the weekend, I was treated

for

> 2 months by an Opthamologist. I was put on 2 different Steroid and

> anti-inflammatory drops and was closely monitored so that my vision was

not

> destroyed. I was told by the Doctors that it is not all that unusual to

> develop inflammations in the eye with RA, as ANY organ in the body can

> become inflammed due to the RA!! I learned not to ignore pain signals in

my

> body after that experience!

>

> Elly

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terry, what were your symptoms? kathy in il

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Hi Tery,

I am so sorry to read of the eye problems you are having. What are the

systems you experienced? Hope you start to feel better.

Lynn

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> From: terryperrella <terryperrella@...>

>

> Subject: [ ] EYE Problems

> Date: Saturday, January 19, 2002 2:00 PM

>

> For the past year I have been having really bad eye problems. My

> rheumy said it was normal for people with RA just to use eye drops a

> couple of times a day. Well, it just kept getting worse so I went to

> two eye doctors, not wanting just one opinion anymore. Turns out

> I have Iritis and Blepharitis in both eyes. Both are chronic problems

> common to those with RA and can be serious enough to blind you. I my

> case it got to the point it will take at least six months of daily

> care to get it corrected. So now I take tetracycline along with

> everything else each day and have ointments and washes for my eyes

> each day. Thank heavens I caught it before too much permanent damage

> had occured.

>

> Ohio - Terry

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's awful, Terry. Good thing you sought outside consultations. What

is your rheumy's excuse?

[ ] EYE Problems

> For the past year I have been having really bad eye problems. My

> rheumy said it was normal for people with RA just to use eye drops a

> couple of times a day. Well, it just kept getting worse so I went to

> two eye doctors, not wanting just one opinion anymore. Turns out

> I have Iritis and Blepharitis in both eyes. Both are chronic problems

> common to those with RA and can be serious enough to blind you. I my

> case it got to the point it will take at least six months of daily

> care to get it corrected. So now I take tetracycline along with

> everything else each day and have ointments and washes for my eyes

> each day. Thank heavens I caught it before too much permanent damage

> had occured.

>

> Ohio - Terry

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My llyear old non verbal son is having problems with

his eyes where he wants to put cream or vasoline in

them just like he would do when his nose is irritated.

I know something maybe going on with his eyes but I

don't know what or where to begin.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

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In a message dated 4/18/2002 20:05:50 PM GMT Daylight Time,

sharnitap@... writes:

>

> My llyear old non verbal son is having problems with

> his eyes where he wants to put cream or vasoline in

> them just like he would do when his nose is irritated.

> I know something maybe going on with his eyes but I

> don't know what or where to begin.

> Thanks in advance for any responses.

>

We are going through this right now with my non-verbal 7y/o. He has been

rubbing his eyes and looking at the tv and computer screens from strange

angles. We went to our local opthalmology eye clinic at our local hospital

and he needs glasses to correct his vision. We are going back in 3 months to

the orthoptist to check vision processing.

We had to sit on him to get him examined, the opthalmologist singing Tweenies

songs and asking him to look for Jake through her special window.... not an

experience to be repeated any time soon.

London UK

[Guest guest]

Why not take him to see an optometrist?

[Guest guest]

What about the saline solutions or other eye lubricants

that contact lens user buy?

RE: Eye problems

> My llyear old non verbal son is having problems with

> his eyes where he wants to put cream or vasoline in

> them just like he would do when his nose is irritated.

> I know something maybe going on with his eyes but I

> don't know what or where to begin.

> Thanks in advance for any responses.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

We have had good luck with a neuro-opthamologist. We tried three eye doctors

before, but this has been the only one that has had significant input on our

son's case. His eye-contact has improved immensely since he has been

treating him. If there is someone in your area with this specialty, you

might check it out.

Sharon

Unlocking Autism's

Wings for Little Angels Program

" Helping Those with Autism Soar "

[Guest guest]

Take him to the doctor. He can tell you if he has dry eyes or allergies.

Re: RE: Eye problems

In a message dated 4/18/2002 20:05:50 PM GMT Daylight Time,

sharnitap@... writes:

>

> My llyear old non verbal son is having problems with

> his eyes where he wants to put cream or vasoline in

> them just like he would do when his nose is irritated.

> I know something maybe going on with his eyes but I

> don't know what or where to begin.

> Thanks in advance for any responses.

>

We are going through this right now with my non-verbal 7y/o. He has been

rubbing his eyes and looking at the tv and computer screens from strange

angles. We went to our local opthalmology eye clinic at our local hospital

and he needs glasses to correct his vision. We are going back in 3 months

to

the orthoptist to check vision processing.

We had to sit on him to get him examined, the opthalmologist singing

Tweenies

songs and asking him to look for Jake through her special window.... not

an

experience to be repeated any time soon.

London UK

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I am new to this list and your experience with the neuro-opthamologist

interested me. Our daughter has significant motor problems with her eyes

and we have had a very difficult time getting the correct diagnosis and

treatment. She has something like ocular apraxia and some other

issues. She also has very small clefts in her eyes and is light sensitive.

She has had vision therapy and it helps, but we are still looking for some

more definitive explanations of what is going on. IF you wouldn't mind

sharing some about the treatment your son has experienced, I would

appreciate it.

I am new enough to not know if this is too far off-topic or not, but if

not, I would really like to discuss it in more depth as eye contact is very

difficult for our daughter.

Thank you,

At 11:41 PM 4/18/02 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi,

>We have had good luck with a neuro-opthamologist. We tried three eye doctors

>before, but this has been the only one that has had significant input on our

>son's case. His eye-contact has improved immensely since he has been

>treating him. If there is someone in your area with this specialty, you

>might check it out.

>Sharon

>

>Unlocking Autism's

>Wings for Little Angels Program

> " Helping Those with Autism Soar "

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharnita,

Could it be spring allergies - my eyes itch terribly in the spring.

A prescription such as Zyrtec or Claritin could help with this,

without drowsiness.

Or you could try an eye drop or gel. I use Genteal eye gel by Ciba

Vision (I buy it at my local Rite-Aid). It works like an eyedrop

with relieving itchiness and redness, is long lasting and won't run

down my face when I try to put them in.

You should probably take him to an opthalmologist for an exam to rule

out anything medical.

Vicki

> My llyear old non verbal son is having problems with

> his eyes where he wants to put cream or vasoline in

> them just like he would do when his nose is irritated.

> I know something maybe going on with his eyes but I

> don't know what or where to begin.

> Thanks in advance for any responses.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Is your son on allergy medication? This sounds like it could be hay

fever.

My son had almost no symptoms that I could see of allergic rhinitis, but

allergy medicine has really helped him (we even saw a " burst of speech "

right after he began the medicine.)

Sharnita wrote:

> My llyear old non verbal son is having problems with

> his eyes where he wants to put cream or vasoline in

> them just like he would do when his nose is irritated.

> I know something maybe going on with his eyes but I

> don't know what or where to begin.

> Thanks in advance for any responses.

>

> _

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In a message dated 4/19/02 8:35:34 PM Central Daylight Time,

wkeedy@... writes:

> I am new to this list and your experience with the neuro-opthamologist

> interested me.

,

Sorry for the delay in response...gotta love autism awareness month :-). We

took my son last year to an opthomologist (pediatric) in town after the

school was noting some difficulties in his vision. Connor had a lot of

difficulty reading the chart, but the doc just went ahead and dialated his

eyes and took his results from that. This doctor told us that, at that time,

his vision was around 20/40, but didn't yet warrant glasses.

When school started this year it was very apparent that he was having

difficulty with his vision. He is an excellent reader, but could only read

if he went right over to what was on the board (was mistaking " took " for

" look " , etc.).

We were referred to another opthomologist (on base...my husband is in the

AF), who told me that there was absolutely nothing wrong with his vision.

Connor again had great difficulty reading the chart, again particularly with

his left eye, but again his eyes were dialated and conclusions drawn from

that. He said that Connor was a " little far sighted, which is perfectly

normal at his age " . Based on his symptoms, this made zero sense, so I asked

for another opinion. He reluctantly agreed, saying " I'll do it, but they're

just going to tell you the same thing " . Well, I was questioning myself, but

what this last doc said just did not make sense, so we went ahead with the

referral to another doctor.

I really feel like God blessed us when the referral turned out to be a local

Pediatric Neuro-Opthamologist. He had a wonderful kid friendly office, but

most of all, was so thorough. This was about a month after the last eval,

and again Connor had great difficulty reading the chart. In all his " chart

reading experiences " ...lol.....his left eye tested as particularly weak. The

doctor completed the exam and again dialated his eyes. His opinion was that,

although he " didn't want to disagree with anybody " , our son was definitely

NOT far sighted. His right eye was 20/40, but his left eye was 20/80,

consistent with the diagnosis of " lazy-eye " . This was also the only exam

that was consistent with his symptoms and previous vision exams.

Now, a few months down the road, after doing some eye-patching and glasses,

Connor's left eye is able to see 20/30. If we had not caught it when he was

young, the improvement might not have been possible.

The best I can say is that if you're not satisfied...keep looking. Connor's

eye contact is so much better! Even our ABA consultant swears that the patch

made a huge difference.

Hope this helps!

Sharon

Unlocking Autism's

Wings for Little Angels Program

" Helping Those with Autism Soar "