Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Hi, fellow CMLers, I¹m going to jump forward to some talks that were given today because they¹re still fresh with me and also really interesting. It was a session on IM resistance with 6 different speakers, though I only heard 5 of them. Jeez, these researchers are smart people! I think if I were to start all over I¹d go into cancer research, just to hang out with folks like this (also because cancer research is getting more and more interesting. Also treating cancer patients is more fun than it used to be because there¹s so much more one can do for them, and the future is even brighter. My oncologist friend used to be a gloomy lot, for good reason; they seem a lot happier nowadays! The first talk was by the ubiquitous Deininger. Unfortunately I got there a bit late, and the part of his talk I caught didn¹t tell me anything new, beyond what I¹ve already reported. Next we heard from Skaggs, from UCLA. He had some really interesting stuff to say about the many kinase domain mutations that have been identified to date. Some of these not only confer resistance to IM, but also greater ³fitness² compared to non-mutated BA (that¹s BCR/ABL, in my shorthand, remember?). Two mutations, T315I and E255, in particular, confer growth and/or survival advantages which allow their cells to take over from the cells with wild-type (un-mutated) BA. T315I and E255 are, by definition, more transformed, i.e. more cancerous than the wild-type (WT) cells, so folks unlucky enough to get them have to contend with a double whammy. Interestingly, these are among the only mutations that show up in patients with any frequency PRIOR to starting IM which makes perfect sense given their growth advantages. By contrast, none of the many mutations which show reduced fitness show up before IM treatment; they undoubtedly occur, but their host cells die out because they are out-competed by WT cells. Finally, there¹s a set of mutations with approximately equivalent fitness as WT cells, and as you might expect, they show up but only occasionally - in the cells of ³IM naïve² patients. Am I being at all clear here? I hope so, because this stuff is worth understanding. It¹s pretty cool, actually unless you happen to be unlucky enough to have one of the bad mutations. If you are, read on, because there¹s hope for you too. Skaggs mentioned one more thing I had known but forgotten: that IM only binds BA in its inactive conformation. Not surprisingly therefore, most IM resistance mutations occur in sites that hold BA in the active conformation, to which IM can¹t bind. By contrast dasatinib (DS) binds the kinase domain in both active and inactive states which makes it more potent (it can bind more of the time), AND explains why DS overcomes many IM resistance mutations: it can still bind even when these mutations hold the domain closed/inactive. The only kinase domain mutations affecting DS binding are those which affect drug contact with BA. This is all very slick, albeit sinister (and, btw, requires no intelligent designer, for those of you interested in that debate). How come some mutations confer greater fitness on their host cells? The answer in most cases is that these mutations increase the enzymatic potency of BA that is, they can phosphorylate more downstream enzymes in less time, so they crank up cell growth and inhibit cell death even better (or worse, from our point of view) than their wild-type ancestors. Other mutations don¹t make the kinase more potent, but turn it into a better ³transformer² by becoming a better autophosphorylator but here he kind of lost me, I¹m afraid. Phew! OK, on to Copland in Tessa Holyoake¹s lab, on combination therapy for targeting quiescent cells a matter of great interest to those of us lucky enough to have reached high-grade molecular responses (a 3 log reduction or better in qPCR), as most of our remaining cells are presumably of the quiescent BA+ stem cell variety. Dr. Holyoake¹s lab has previously shown these cells to be insensitive to IM, as well as to the newer STI¹s, AMN107 and DS. Why they¹re insensitive is not yet known, but Dr. H¹s lab and others are hard at work on that. While we wait to find out, it would be nice to be able to kill these cells though, and that¹s what this study is about. Last June, Dr. T et. alia, published a paper showing that one of the farnesyl transferase inhibitors (FTIs) in combination with IM could eliminate quiescent stem cells (again, because I¹m a lazy typist I¹ll call them Qs from now on) better than IM alone; much better, in fact, because it turns out that IM not only fails to kill Qs, it actually increases their numbers, presumably by driving some of the dividing stem cells into the quiescent state. Dr. H then decided to poke around in the library of FTIs and see if any of these could do a better job than lornafarnib, the one they tried last year. Low and behold there is one: BMS 214662 (B662 from now on no way I¹m typing that long string!). Turns out that in combination with either IM or DS, this handy little molecule reduces the Qs to nearly zero - at least in the test tube. Mouse studies to follow, then hopefully human studies. A couple of other points made here: € Some FTI¹s only inhibit cell growth, while others actually kill cells. B662 is of the latter type, and Dr. H¹s studies show that all by itself it ³reaches down² farther into the stem cell compartment than IM does. That is to say, B662 can kill some cells that IM cannot, even all on its own. € B662 appears to be effective against cancers other than CML, which makes it MUCH more likely that this compound will be developed because the market could be substantial. € The combo of IM plus B662 kills Q cells better (in the test tube anyway) than does DS plus B662. This is interesting given that DS is more effective at CML cell killing generally. € They don¹t yet know how B662 kills Qs, but they¹re working on it. € They tested B662 on normal white blood cells and found a little toxicity, but less than from either IM or DS! Of course the question will be whether the toxicity will be tolerable when these drugs are used together, not just separately. Next, Ellen Weisberg talked about combining AMN107 and IM in the treatment of CML. Though members of the audience questioned some of her results, Dr. Weisberg appears to have shown that their combined effect is at least additive, and may actually be synergistic (greater then the sum of the parts, that is). If this is true, or even if the combo is ONLY as effective as either agent alone, she argued that combining them may a) suppress emergence of resistant cells and reduce side effects. This work is early, but it looks promising. Copland again, this time looking at why Qs are insensitive to IM, AMN and DS. There are three possibilities: 1) not enough of the drug is getting into the cells to inhibit BA; 2) enough is getting in and BA is being inhibited, but Qs aren¹t dependent on BA for survival; 3) enough is getting in but BA has these cells have developed resistance mutations. If (1), then the trick is to get more drug into the cells; if (2), then we need to develop other strategies to kill these cells (using an FTI, for example); if (3), then we need to figure out the resistance mechanism and overcome it. I don¹t think I can explain the supporting data (I didn¹t understand a lot of it myself), but I think they¹ve concluded that these drugs are probably getting into the cells just fine, but that BA is being overexpressed. This isn¹t the whole story though: if overexpression was the only difference from regular CML cells, then increasing the drug level should kill the Qs. However, it doesn¹t, so it must also be true that these cells are not ³addicted² to BA as more mature Phillies are. A couple more points of interest: € As noted above, both IM and DS increase the total number of Q cells, but listen to this: DS + IM together increase Q cells even more!! It seems to me that this kind of argues against combo therapy, at least until we find out how to kill the Q cells. € BA and IM increase the number Q cells by 1-2 logs - quite a lot, really. The last talk is the one I wrote to Tracey about earlier. It was by Burleigh of SGX Pharmaceuticals on finding compounds that zap both wild type and and 315 BA CML cells. More about that when I get the time. Good night for now, R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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