Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 At 07:20 PM 12/22/05 -0500, you wrote: > In >fact it worked as well and maybe even better than the twice a day dosage >schedule that was later adopted. I really don¹t understand why they began >with only a single daily dose, and would appreciate any insights any of you >may have. Hi , The phase 2 trial that I started a month ago, (called Study 34 I think) is a 4 arm trial...........50mg BID or 100mg once a day or 70mg BID or 140mg once a day I am on 100mg once a day. Happy skiing to you......and I hope you have some time by the fire to keep sharing all your learned with us.......Thanks. love, Maui Nanc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Hi , Thank you again for these amazing reports from the ASH conference. Not only do you have a great writing skill, you also have the ability to make the content of a difficult and technical paper easy for a layman to understand. I'm sure that you remember Rowbotham's reports from ASH. They were excellent. I think that your reports are better because you have the medical background to really make them clear. Please keep it up. Can't wait to hear what Hochhaus had to say. I know that early in the game when I spoke to Dr. Druker about a cure for CML, he thought that it would come in the form of a combination therapy. Zavie [ ] Shah on Treatment of IM-Resistant CML Hi Folks, Following is the fourth of five presentations from the Friday Corporate Symposium sponsored by Bristol Myers Squib, which I began reporting on some time back. This presentation was by Dr. Neil Shah of UCLA, on Treatment of IM-Resistant CML. After this, and one more by s Hochaus, I will then have three more multi-speaker talks to go, along with a bunch of really interesting ³poster sessions.² I apologize taking so long already. The idea of reporting on all that remains seems daunting; however, I'm scheduled to ski for five days after Christmas, and since the conditions in Maine then are notoriously miserable (unless you¹re a teen) at this time of year, I¹ll probably spend a lot of time by the fire working on my reports to y¹all. Shah reviewed the fact that AMN107 (AMN, from now on) is chemically very similar to IM from which it was derived, whereas Bristo Myers Squibb¹s BMS354825 (dasatinib, or DS, for the purposes of this lazy typist) is structurally unrelated to Novartis¹ drugs. Both AMN and DS are at least 2 logs (two powers of ten, or 100x) more potent than IM, so they offer hope for effective treatment even in patients whose cells have learned to over-express the bcr/abl enzyme (brief review: BCR/ABL is the CML cancer gene [oncogene], whereas bcr/abl [in small letters] refers to the tyrosine kinase enzyme that BCR/ABL codes for, and which actually causes all the bad things in CML: increased growth and lifespan of the white cells, increased mutation rate of these white, so that the disease becomes increasingly cancerous, etc. For ease of typing, I¹m following the convention of many authors nowadays, in referring to the BCR/ABL gene simply as ³BA² - though I¹ll continue to refer to the enzyme as bcr/abl). One reason for the increased potency of these new drugs is that they are more ³tolerant² of bcr/abl¹s different shapes (called ³conformations² in the biochemistry's quaint lingo): they bind to bcr/abl no matter whether it is ³open² (inactive), ³closed² (active), or in any intermediate stat. IM, by contrast, only binds to the closed/active conformation. In theory, DS offers even greater efficacy because it inhibits not only bcr/abl, but also one of the kinases (one called src, and pronounced ³sarc²) responsible for carrying out bcr/abl¹s downstream dirty work (Note: Shah didn¹t address whether scr inhibition actually makes a difference clinically nor did I find this out elsewhere at ASH. Do any of you know whether DS¹s src-blocking has proven clinical utility?). Shah mentioned a curious thing about the dosing frequency of dasatinib: although DS has a half life of only a few hours (5-6 times shorter than IM), it was initially given only once a day in Phase I trials. This means that patients spent much of each day with very low serum levels, which would be a total no-no with IM, where continuous serum levels above a certain threshold are deemed absolutely necessary to avoid resistance. Whatever the reason though, they a single dose for a while, and it seemed to work just fine. In fact it worked as well and maybe even better than the twice a day dosage schedule that was later adopted. I really don¹t understand why they began with only a single daily dose, and would appreciate any insights any of you may have. Maybe DS is so potent that it remains at a therapeutic level even after several half-life periods have passed. But if this is the case, why don¹t they just give patients much less of it, but spread it out during the day to keep drug levels stable? Were they concerned about reduced compliance? A few other facts: € While AMN and DS treat most IM resistant mutations, they engender some new resistances of their own. Surprisingly (given that DS and AMN are quite different molecules), these resistance patterns are rather similar to one another. The fact that IM is effective against many of the DS or AMN-specific mutations and vice versa, is one of the rationales for trying a combination of IM and one of these new drugs together. For more on this, see the abstract (with Shah as a lead author) at the end of this post. € Similar to the IM experience, some patients on DS experienced low grade elevations of their liver enzymes (AST, in particular) and of creatinine. A new and somewhat more worrisome side effect is pleural effusion (fluid in the lining of the lung) experienced by some patients. Jumping ahead of myself though, I heard at one of the poster session that these effusions resolve and don¹t tend to recur if you stop the drug for a couple of days, give corticosteroids (like prednisone), and then restart. € Many IM resistant blast phase patients showed a response by DS, though as expected, they shortly became resistant to this drug too (same with AMN). € The ³next frontier² is drugs that will treat T315I, which Shah called the ³Achilles heel of small molecule TK inhibitors.² None of the drugs that have reached clinical trials show activity against this mutation, though several compounds under investigation in vitro show promise (see my prior post on IM resistance). Appropriately, some of these compounds have mysterious, rather heroic names such as the ³Auror kinase inhibitor,² or (for sci-fi techies), VX680. OK, off we go with this one. Stay tuned for s Hochaus on the Potential for Combining Targeted Agents Against CML. Cheers, R ______ [1093] Molecular Analysis of Dasatinib Resistance Mechanisms in CML Patients Identifies Novel BCR-ABL Mutations Predicted To Retain Sensitivity to Imatinib: Rationale for Combination Tyrosine Kinase Inhibitor Therapy. Session Type: Poster Session 251-I Neil P. Shah, M. Nicoll, Branford, P. , L. Paquette, Moshe Talpaz, Claude Nicaise, Fei Huang, L. Sawyers . Medicine/Hematology-Oncology, The Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA, Los Angeles, CA, USA; Hematology, Institute for Medical and Veterinary Sciences, Adelaide, New South Wales, Australia; Bioimmunotherapy, MD Cancer Center, Houston, TX, USA; Bristol-Myers Squibb Oncology, Princeton, NJ, USA Point mutations within the BCR-ABL kinase domain represent the most common mechanism of resistance to imatinib in patients with CML. Preclinical studies have shown that dasatinib (BMS-354825) is effective at inhibiting the kinase activity of imatinib-resistant BCR-ABL mutants with the notable exception of the T315I mutation, which remains highly resistant to imatinib, dasatinib, and AMN107 (Gorre et al, Science 2001; Shah et al, Science 2004; Weisberg et al, Cancer Cell, 2005). Clinical data from Phase I and II studies of dasatinib in CML confirms the in vitro findings. Each of three imatinib-resistant patients bearing the T315I mutation (CP=1; AP=2) did not achieve objective hematologic or cytogenetic responses during treatment with dasatanib on a Phase I study. Additionally, each of two phase II patients with the T315I mutation (CP=1; LBC=1) treated at UCLA showed no evidence of objective response. We have also detected the T315I mutation in each of two cases of acquired resistance in a phase II (LBC =2) study, and in seven of nine patients with acquired resistance to dasatinib in phase I and II studies (CP=1; MBC=3; LBC=2; Ph+ ALL=1). Notably, we detected a novel BCR-ABL mutation, T315A, in one of the two patients who relapsed without a detectable T315I mutation. The patient is a 53 year-old female whose chronic phase CML had progressed to myeloid blast phase while being treated with imatinib. The imatinib-resistant mutation M244V was identified prior to dasatinib treatment. The patient achieved a major hematologic response (<5% blasts with partial recovery of peripheral blood counts) on dasatinib 90 mg orally given twice daily, but relapsed with MBC after six months. Sequence analysis of the BCR-ABL kinase domain at the time of relapse revealed the presence of the imatinib-resistant mutation M244V as well as the novel mutation T315A. This finding is of particular interest because T315A and several other novel BCR-ABL mutations were recently recovered in a saturation mutagenesis study designed to define potential mechanisms of dasatinib resistance. Remarkably, many of these mutations retain sensitivity to imatinib in vitro (Burgess et al, PNAS, 2005). Through periodic molecular monitoring of other dasatinib-treated patients, we have identified a second novel BCR-ABL mutant, F317I, that developed in an imatinib-resistant CP patient after 9 months of treatment. Similar to T315A, F317I was isolated in the saturation mutagenesis screen for dasatinib resistance and is predicted to retain sensitivity to imatinib. Taken together, our findings implicate the T315I mutation as the principle mechanism of resistance to dasatinib, but more importantly, strongly support the use for combination kinase inhibitor therapy in CML to prevent emergence of drug resistant clones. A phase I trial to assess the safety of combining imatinib with dasatinib is planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Hi , I learned about current dosing at the same lecture, but didn't get around to writing down the schedule in my report. How come you're on a once-a-day schedule? Happy holidays, and say hi to my inlaws out there, if you see them. Love, > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:24:39 -0800 > From: Cogan <ncogan@...> > Subject: Re: Shah on Treatment of IM-Resistant CML > > At 07:20 PM 12/22/05 -0500, you wrote: >> In >> fact it worked as well and maybe even better than the twice a day dosage >> schedule that was later adopted. I really don¹t understand why they began >> with only a single daily dose, and would appreciate any insights any of you >> may have. > > > Hi , > The phase 2 trial that I started a month ago, (called Study 34 I think) is a 4 > arm trial...........50mg BID or 100mg once a day or 70mg BID or 140mg once a > day > > I am on 100mg once a day. > > Happy skiing to you......and I hope you have some time by the fire to keep > sharing all your learned with us.......Thanks. love, Maui Nanc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 At 04:44 PM 12/24/05 -0500, you wrote: >Hi , > >I learned about current dosing at the same lecture, but didn't get around to >writing down the schedule in my report. How come you're on a once-a-day >schedule? > >Happy holidays, and say hi to my inlaws out there, if you see them. Hi , I guess my note wasn't totally clear......flip of the coin made me once a day dosing. The 4 random choices of my Study 34 trial are: 50mg BID 100mg once a day 70mg BID 140mg once a day So, this trial is looking at the 2 different starting doses and once a day vs BID. Dr. Druker's nurse said that the feeling there (with only a small patient sample) was that those on once a day dose have fewer side effects than the BID?? After my 3 month BMB, perhaps we will push for something different if we don't see a good response. My 'unscientific' thinking was that once a day I am hitting the marrow really hard (more so than if I was on 50mg BID?????). You mentioned pleural edema....there are definitely folks dealing with that. I have a friend who had this right at the beginning but it seems to have resolved. I am having some mild peripheral neuropathy (which others on Jerry's BMS list have written about)....OHSU has cleared me for working with my naturopath on that. She has me taking 300mg of lipoic acid right now (and could increase to 600mg)....as this is a treatment for diabetic neuropathy. About the relatives.....I went to Ian's concert recently. He is really a good looking kid, and big for 13. says he is going through a 'stage'.......kind of the 'whatever' stage. They keep busy. Let me know if you have any thoughts about my dose/schedule and the neuropathy. love, Maui Nanc >Love, > > > > > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:24:39 -0800 > > From: Cogan <ncogan@...> > > Subject: Re: Shah on Treatment of IM-Resistant CML > > > > At 07:20 PM 12/22/05 -0500, you wrote: > >> In > >> fact it worked as well and maybe even better than the twice a day > dosage > >> schedule that was later adopted. I really don¹t understand why they began > >> with only a single daily dose, and would appreciate any insights any > of you > >> may have. > > > > > > Hi , > > The phase 2 trial that I started a month ago, (called Study 34 I think) > is a 4 > > arm trial...........50mg BID or 100mg once a day or 70mg BID or 140mg > once a > > day > > > > I am on 100mg once a day. > > > > Happy skiing to you......and I hope you have some time by the fire to keep > > sharing all your learned with us.......Thanks. love, Maui Nanc > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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