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It is only fair of me to admit that I did not know the existence of these tests

in progressive order or any order and I think there is also a few other now

aren't there? If not, that is proof that I truly didn't know what these tests

were. They were not available, at least to the general public of patients in

2002 when I took treatment, they may have been available, but is so it was only

in specialized situations and then a person would have to know of their

existence, which i did not. I ask if there are more tests...??? simply because

I remember that there are supposedly tests that measure DNA and Chromosonal

damage or changes....maybe it is these actual tests you are mentioning that do

this. Perhaps you need to list.....or have someone who knows list what each of

these tests you mention " Does in particular " to give us prognosis and of what?

Sorry if I am way behind on this but I am and am glad you posted these tests

etc.

Kurt

Prognostics

The following is driven primarily by my own wish to have a no-brainer

summary. Venkat's _www.clltopics.org_ (http://www.clltopics.org) has A

LOT OF

INFORMATION on these topics, anyone interested in details beyond this

simplistic summary is urged to look there!!!

The ZAP-70 test - - - The lower the ZAP-70 expression the better

IgVH gene - - - if unmutated, prognosis is less good than if mutated

FISH test, genetic aberrations - - -

17q deletion - not desirable

p53 deletion - not desirable

13q deletion - does not have serious effect

CD38 levels - - - low is good

Please understand the above is not based on research on my part, just on

what I think I read on 's pages

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, I agree that (known) prognostics do not seem to hold the key to understanding & treating CLL. waynejb50192@... wrote: Hi Connie - you may not believe this, but I do not know!! That is my philosophy, as I do not believe that, except perhaps for deciding on when and how to do initial TX, prognostics have anything to do with the price of tea in China. Just a personal approach.....All I know is that I am unmutated.....

In my personal (patient) opinion, you should decide on your TX based on symptoms and needs, and not make yourself crazy with the prognostic indicators. I'm truly sorry if I'm offending anyone...... Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food.

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