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Hi - I'm so sorry to hear about your father's trials. I don't know anything

about

syndrome. But I do know that doxorubicin has been used for a long time

to

treat other types of cancer such as breast cancer -- not sure about its role in

CLL. It's very

powerful and side effects may include effects on the immune system. Since

Rituxan does

do a job on the immune system, and doxorubicin/vincristine do too, my question

would

be whether the combination has an effect on the immune system's ability to

rebound, and

what precautions need to be taken to ensure that it does. I'm sure more

knowledgeable

people will post about its use in CLL.

So the good news is that doxorubicin is well-established therapy -- it's not

experimental;

the question is how your MDs will manage its potent effects in patients with CLL

who have

already compromised immunity.

All best to you and your father,

Marietta

>

> Hey all,

>

> my Dad recently started another round of combination chemos after a

> really rough 3 month stay in the hospital with a blood infection. We

> have reason to believe that he contracted syndrom during

> his last reaction to Campath. I've read up on it and see that if

> contracted again, could be fatal. He has recently started taking a

> combo of Rituxan, Vincristine, and a newer one, doxorubicin. Has anyone

> heard of this newer one and what the effects have been? I'm fearful for

> my fathers immune levels and am still waiting for the 'right' treatment

> that will rid him of this mess!

>

> Val

>

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Hi,

Doxorubicin is an anthracycline. See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthracycline

It's a vital component of a protocol called CHOP-Rituxan used to

treat a common aggressive lymphoma called Diffuse Large B-cell

lymphoma, also used increasingly as first primary therapy for

indolent lymphomas or transformed indolent lymphomas.

It makes sense to me to start with the goal of treatment when trying

to make a treatment decision (or understand your doctor's

recommendation) ... Is it to induce a durable remission? Or to manage

the disease with minimal toxicity when needed? Or to relieve symptoms

(palliative)? Then you can focus on protocols that fit with those

basic goals.

I think the most reasonable goal of therapy is not always based on

patient choice ... sometimes it depends on the clinical behavior of

the disease (they do not all behave the same way, even if they have

the same name). For example, a CLL that's progressing rapidly might

require higher-risk combination therapy with the goal of eradicating

the aggressive component.

Another key question is how likely is it that the outcome (the

response to therapy and its duration) will offset the toxicities. So-

called risk/benefit analysis.

Virtually every treatment for CLL has toxicities, even the targeted

types. It's common for treatment to impact on blood counts and

immunity (noting that CLL is a blood cell cancer), but the counts

will generally rebound after awhile ...

However some treatment protocols and agents have longer-lasting

impacts on immunity than others. Sometimes the impacts are

reversible, sometimes not completely ... (in this regard I think the

impact of fludarabine might be greater than for doxorubicin ... but

that's just a layperson's impression.

Anyhow, all this to say I think we must rely on our physicians, who

have direct knowldege of our condition, treatment history, general

health, secondary conditions,, etc. to help us sort through these

difficult decisions.

Most importantly, a second opinion from a CLL expert should be sought

if at all possible. Try not only to ask what is recommended, but

also the rationale. When multiple options exist, why this and not

that.

~ Karl

>

> Hey all,

>

> my Dad recently started another round of combination chemos after a

> really rough 3 month stay in the hospital with a blood infection.

We

> have reason to believe that he contracted syndrom

during

> his last reaction to Campath. I've read up on it and see that if

> contracted again, could be fatal. He has recently started taking a

> combo of Rituxan, Vincristine, and a newer one, doxorubicin. Has

anyone

> heard of this newer one and what the effects have been? I'm fearful

for

> my fathers immune levels and am still waiting for the 'right'

treatment

> that will rid him of this mess!

>

> Val

>

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