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Hi all

My Dr is concerned because my percent lymphs jumped from mid

50s TO 71%.

But my WBC went down to 9.1 so by my calcs my ALC is 6.5

which is down from last time when it was 8. I thought the

only thing to worry about was the ALC and its doubling

time.

My Hem/Onc is very busy and visits are brief. I thought he

said something off to the side about tumor load but not

sure.

If I am not quick with my questions the visit is over before

I can formulate some of my thoughts.

So I brought the question here.

Thanks in advance for any information that can help me

understand this better.

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> My Hem/Onc is very busy and visits are brief. [snip] If I am not quick

> with my questions the visit is over before I can formulate some of my

> thoughts.

I think you need to have a bit of a talk with your Hem/Onc - your life

depends to at least some extent on what you and your Hem/Onc discuss - it

is not just what you find out that is important - it is also what he/she

finds out about you, too.

Obviously, having a list of questions prepared ahead of time with you will

help, but there has to be some time allowed for some two-way communication,

too. I think you somehow have to have a discussion about ~that~ as well.

Just my own thoughts, not minding my own business...

Fred

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Dr. Furman gets angry at me when I worry about lymph %. But, hoping that he

will forgive me, I find a correlation between my well being and between my

neurophil%/lymphocyte%. A well person might have a neutrophil% twice as

high as the lymphocyte%. But, do noit forget that it's really the abolute

numers that count, i.e. % of WBC.

In a message dated 2/24/2011 9:43:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

GARYSERBO@... writes:

Hi all

My Dr is concerned because my percent lymphs jumped from mid

50s TO 71%.

But my WBC went down to 9.1 so by my calcs my ALC is 6.5

which is down from last time when it was 8. I thought the

only thing to worry about was the ALC and its doubling

time.

My Hem/Onc is very busy and visits are brief. I thought he

said something off to the side about tumor load but not

sure.

If I am not quick with my questions the visit is over before

I can formulate some of my thoughts.

So I brought the question here.

Thanks in advance for any information that can help me

understand this better.

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First, are you an untreated patient? If so, I wonder what your numbers were at

your initial diagnosis and how it was determined that you had CLL. I beg to

differ greatly with 's post further down in this chain. Percentages have

very little meaning until they are multiplied against your WBC to get your ALC.

And If your ALC is so nice and low as it appears .. then it could double and ..

so what, as your ALC is so good.

Are you an SLL patient who presents their disease in their nodes? Do you have

an enlarged spleen? Do you have B symptoms of fatigue or night sweats?

Do you have your Hgb and platelet numbers and were they of concern?

If you are a treated patient, then I can see concern with having too low numbers

...

Probably most importantly .. is your hema / onc a CLL/SLL expert? If not, you

really should see one for a second opinion.

So guess we all need to know a bit more about you in order to really respond in

a helpful fashion.

All the best,

Lynn

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> Hi all

>

> My Dr is concerned because my percent lymphs jumped from mid

> 50s TO 71%.

>

> But my WBC went down to 9.1 so by my calcs my ALC is 6.5

> which is down from last time when it was 8. I thought the

> only thing to worry about was the ALC and its doubling

> time.

>

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This is from ACOR's FAQ...http://cllfaq.info/index.html

quote:

ALC - Absolute Lymphocyte Count

" Absolute counts are extremely important. If lymphocyte or other counts are

reported as percentages of the total white blood count (wbc), theabsolute values

can be calculated as follows:

Total wbc x % cell type reported ÷ 100.

This formula can be used for calculating the absolute lymphocyte count, absolute

neutrophil count, etc.

By way of example, if the total white count reported is 25,000 and the

percentage of lymphocytes reported is 80%, the calculation is as follows: 25,000

x 80 ÷ 100. The result is an absolute lymphocyte count of 20,000.

If the total white blood count minus the total lymphocytes is less than 2000,

the patient becomes increasingly at risk of infection. This is one of the

reasons it is essential to monitor absolute counts, not percentages.

end quote

HTH

~chris

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