Re: rachel +choosing to vax

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In a message dated 9/25/00 7:02:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snakken@...

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Also,

>there is a homeopathic remedy to aid in the neg. affects of vaccinations.

I'd

>suggest using that at the same time.

There is NO such thing. Homeopathy may be able to help if there are

negative effects AND IT MAY NOT! There is no ONE remedy.

If there were, we'd all be happy, healthy and could do anything we wanted >>

I said the product is to aid in cases of vaccinosis response. Of course they

won't help in every case. I didn't mean to imply that we could all run about

being vaccinated. IF she chooses to howevery she should look at somethign to

help.

Also- What is the point of this product then.

Vaccinosis Nosode Drops

Indication: Aids in immune enhancement in cases of vaccinosis response.

I was under the impression those were to help guard against negative affects

(No, not in all cases)

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Sheri,

I saw this in a homeopathic store nearby and picked it up just to have even

though I have no intention of vaccinating. Just thought it was interesting.

THe bottle says, " vaccinosis nosode dtops N4 reorder no.

NDC 58262-8004-2

Ingredients:

serum D anguille 6x, serum equine 6x, serum de yersin 6x, thuja occidentalls

6x, 30x, silicea 6x, 30x, calcera carbonica 6x, 30x, tetanus 9x, measles

mumps rubella 9x, dttab 9x

inactive:

Purified water, not more than 20% USP alchohol.

Indication:

aids immune enhancement in cases of vaccinosis response.

Directions for use:

adults: 10to 15 drops three times per day. For highly sensitive individuals:

best tolerated admin. is through imbrication, (rub in ) on skin of forarm or

abdomen. Adults 7-10 drops one to three times per day. Chidre under 12 one

half of adult usage. Infants consult homeopathic physicain.

To be used according to standard homeopathinc indications.

The maker is:

Professional Health products, LTD

Homeopathic division

Sewickley, PA 15143

Exclusive distributor.

You say that this product should not be used for those indications. Is there

any reason this product should be used? Should I keep it around in case a

need ever pops up or just toss it?

What about those other products you see that say to take before immunization?

are any of them recommended (I'm wondering for some of my firends who do

vaccinate) or are they a waste?

You've got me curous now.

[Guest guest]

Also,

>there is a homeopathic remedy to aid in the neg. affects of vaccinations.

I'd

>suggest using that at the same time.

There is NO such thing. Homeopathy may be able to help if there are

negative effects AND IT MAY NOT! There is no ONE remedy.

If there were, we'd all be happy, healthy and could do anything we wanted.

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

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Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

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>

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>Also,

>>there is a homeopathic remedy to aid in the neg. affects of vaccinations.

>I'd

>>suggest using that at the same time.

>

>There is NO such thing. Homeopathy may be able to help if there are

>negative effects AND IT MAY NOT! There is no ONE remedy.

>If there were, we'd all be happy, healthy and could do anything we wanted >>

>

>I said the product is to aid in cases of vaccinosis response. Of course they

>won't help in every case. I didn't mean to imply that we could all run about

>being vaccinated. IF she chooses to howevery she should look at somethign to

>help.

>Also- What is the point of this product then.

>

>Vaccinosis Nosode Drops

>Indication: Aids in immune enhancement in cases of vaccinosis response.

>

>I was under the impression those were to help guard against negative affects

There are homeopathic products that are labeled in a lot of ways.

This is NOT a product that you can rely on - THIS IS NOT how homeopathy works.

I see why you think that if that is what it says, but it cannot be true -

if you understand homeopathy you know there is NO SUCH thing that would be

possible.

Can you tell me who makes the product and what it says on the label????

This is a dangerous product to be sold for this purpose and I want to get

to the bottom of it - I'm one of many striving for quality homeopathy and

homeopaths in the US

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

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everyone is different. homeopathy takes into consideration many aspects of a

person. we can all have the same illness but characteristics of that illness

is different pertaining to each person this we would all need a different

remedy.

homeopathy can be just as dangerous as using too many allopathic medicines,

if used everytime or very often whenever something feels wrong in the body.

used correctly, or classically, it is wonderful.

i haven't been following the discussions lately but all i can say coming

from a grandmother who vaccinated her own children, i realize now that the

pain i put my son through for years was as a result of vaccines. i am

grateful he is not vaccinating his children. the other son is and that child

is sick constantly and getting drugs continuosly. i was ignorant. there is

no need today for anyone to be ignorant. do the research and make up your

mind from the facts.

we all have to live with all of our decisions that we make each day.

rhoda

Re: rachel +choosing to vax

>

>

>>

>><<

>>Also,

>>>there is a homeopathic remedy to aid in the neg. affects of vaccinations.

>>I'd

>>>suggest using that at the same time.

>>

>>There is NO such thing. Homeopathy may be able to help if there are

>>negative effects AND IT MAY NOT! There is no ONE remedy.

>>If there were, we'd all be happy, healthy and could do anything we wanted

>>

>>

>>I said the product is to aid in cases of vaccinosis response. Of course

they

>>won't help in every case. I didn't mean to imply that we could all run

about

>>being vaccinated. IF she chooses to howevery she should look at somethign

to

>>help.

>>Also- What is the point of this product then.

>>

>>Vaccinosis Nosode Drops

>>Indication: Aids in immune enhancement in cases of vaccinosis response.

>>

>>I was under the impression those were to help guard against negative

affects

>

>There are homeopathic products that are labeled in a lot of ways.

>This is NOT a product that you can rely on - THIS IS NOT how homeopathy

works.

>

>I see why you think that if that is what it says, but it cannot be true -

>if you understand homeopathy you know there is NO SUCH thing that would be

>possible.

>

>Can you tell me who makes the product and what it says on the label????

>This is a dangerous product to be sold for this purpose and I want to get

>to the bottom of it - I'm one of many striving for quality homeopathy and

>homeopaths in the US

>Sheri

>

>--------------------------------------------------------

>Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

>Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

>DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

>International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

> Education, Homeopathic Education

>KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

>CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

>

>

>

>

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Please try to avoid all homeopathic products that list such claims. They

are all false claims. Homeopathy is to be individualized. This and other

products like this can be dangerous. This company is also to be avoided.

The company is just trying to sell products. Their research director is not

a homeopath. He thinks he is. But is not.

----- Original Message -----

From: <teresav26@...>

> Sheri,

> I saw this in a homeopathic store nearby and picked it up just to have

even

> though I have no intention of vaccinating. Just thought it was

interesting.

> THe bottle says, " vaccinosis nosode dtops N4 reorder no.

> NDC 58262-8004-2

> Ingredients:

> serum D anguille 6x, serum equine 6x, serum de yersin 6x, thuja

occidentalls

> 6x, 30x, silicea 6x, 30x, calcera carbonica 6x, 30x, tetanus 9x, measles

> mumps rubella 9x, dttab 9x

>

> inactive:

> Purified water, not more than 20% USP alchohol.

>

> Indication:

> aids immune enhancement in cases of vaccinosis response.

> Directions for use:

> adults: 10to 15 drops three times per day. For highly sensitive

individuals:

> best tolerated admin. is through imbrication, (rub in ) on skin of forarm

or

> abdomen. Adults 7-10 drops one to three times per day. Chidre under 12 one

> half of adult usage. Infants consult homeopathic physicain.

> To be used according to standard homeopathinc indications.

>

> The maker is:

> Professional Health products, LTD

> Homeopathic division

> Sewickley, PA 15143

> Exclusive distributor.

>

> You say that this product should not be used for those indications. Is

there

> any reason this product should be used? Should I keep it around in case a

> need ever pops up or just toss it?

> What about those other products you see that say to take before

immunization?

> are any of them recommended (I'm wondering for some of my firends who do

> vaccinate) or are they a waste?

> You've got me curous now.

>

[Guest guest]

OK, what about Hylands?

S.

Phyllis wrote:

> Please try to avoid all homeopathic products that list such claims. They

> are all false claims. Homeopathy is to be individualized. This and other

> products like this can be dangerous. This company is also to be avoided.

> The company is just trying to sell products. Their research director is not

> a homeopath. He thinks he is. But is not.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <teresav26@...>

> > Sheri,

> > I saw this in a homeopathic store nearby and picked it up just to have

> even

> > though I have no intention of vaccinating. Just thought it was

> interesting.

> > THe bottle says, " vaccinosis nosode dtops N4 reorder no.

> > NDC 58262-8004-2

> > Ingredients:

> > serum D anguille 6x, serum equine 6x, serum de yersin 6x, thuja

> occidentalls

> > 6x, 30x, silicea 6x, 30x, calcera carbonica 6x, 30x, tetanus 9x, measles

> > mumps rubella 9x, dttab 9x

> >

> > inactive:

> > Purified water, not more than 20% USP alchohol.

> >

> > Indication:

> > aids immune enhancement in cases of vaccinosis response.

> > Directions for use:

> > adults: 10to 15 drops three times per day. For highly sensitive

> individuals:

> > best tolerated admin. is through imbrication, (rub in ) on skin of forarm

> or

> > abdomen. Adults 7-10 drops one to three times per day. Chidre under 12 one

> > half of adult usage. Infants consult homeopathic physicain.

> > To be used according to standard homeopathinc indications.

> >

> > The maker is:

> > Professional Health products, LTD

> > Homeopathic division

> > Sewickley, PA 15143

> > Exclusive distributor.

> >

> > You say that this product should not be used for those indications. Is

> there

> > any reason this product should be used? Should I keep it around in case a

> > need ever pops up or just toss it?

> > What about those other products you see that say to take before

> immunization?

> > are any of them recommended (I'm wondering for some of my firends who do

> > vaccinate) or are they a waste?

> > You've got me curous now.

> >

>

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In a message dated 9/25/00 10:17:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

helminger@... writes:

<< OK, what about Hylands?

S.

>>

I'll leave this question to someone who knows more. I'm no expert. BUT quite

some time ago (almost 3 years) I rememeber calling hylands with a question

about their bedwetting tablets (for my neice-then 6) and they seemed VERY

knowledgeable. They answered my questions well and gave a lot of good

information.