RE: Whooping cough cure for asthma

[Guest guest]

I had whooping cough about 7 years ago. My little sisters and brother also

got it (they were not vaccinated, I was). Our friends unvacc children got

it also but none of the parents did (they were all unvacc smokers which we

thought might in someway be protecting them). My doctor refused to admit

that I had whooping cough and I was sent for a couple of chest xrays. My

siblings doctor agreed that they had whooping cough and well all just rode

it out. My little sister was only about 2 when she had it so it was really

hard for her. It took about four months to get over but I would not tell

people that after they have whooping cough that their asthma will be better.

I still use my inhaler all the time and I still am plagued by a low intake

quantity. I was tortured with the coughs for months after the four months

were up. I still for almost 6 months after when every I ran or anything of

the such I would end up with a horrible coughing fit.

><< As I have stated before if an unvaxed child's immune system is so

> strong, then why do they contract this disease, the majority of the

>time? >>

>I believe that there is more good done that we just don't know about yet

>from

>the contraction of childhood illnesses. I don't know that getting any

>childhood disease is such a bad thing, except as Dr. Bart Classen said at

>the

>NVIC conference, " for those children whose mothers are going to ignore them

>and not care for them properly during those illnesses " . I have friend who

>has five children and up until three years ago she was a severe asthmatic

>(and severe allergies) - on medications, inhalers, and constantly sick.

>Then

>three years ago she and three of her kids got whooping cough/pertussis and

>were sick for months - no complications, just coughing for a long time.

>After her round with the whooping cough she went off of all of her meds for

>asthma and no longer uses her inhaler, except in rare instances. She is no

>longer chronically sick with colds, etc. She can even come over to my

>house

>now and I have a longhaired cat!

> According to Dr. Vera Schriebner, measles is considered to be a visit

>from

>the goddess in India. I think we have lots to learn about our immune

>systems

>and the role of diseases in strenthening them. (Also, did you all see the

>medline article a few months back about the Nigerian women who had been

>vaccinated with the MMR who were coming down with measles, whereas the

>women

>who had the measles in childhood were able to resist ALL strains and wild

>types of measles with their natural immunity?)

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/00 10:18:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

tomnrachel@... writes:

<< Finally, this is what I am talking about. This story is common among those

I

have spoke with who have had pertussis. This is why this disease scares me.

>>

yeah, but rachel, this entire family of kids are all ok now and they all

suffered through it--most of them unvaxed. why take the chance with all

types of health related problems by getting vaxed, when most likely you'll

never get it and if you do, the chances of you coming out of it ok, are very

good--if you take care of yourself. also, natalie already needed an inhaler

before contracting pertussis and she still does--no difference. and the

other story we heard, the people in that one are actually doing a little

better after having it, so both of those stories ended with relatively

postive outcomes...

brigit

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/00 10:45:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

beebemcel@... writes:

<< This story is common among those

I

have spoke with who have had pertussis. This is why this disease scares me.

>>

I'm not sure which story you are referring to or which one scares you. This

summer we practically had an epidemic of whooping cough in Hampton Roads in

Virginia. I know of seven families who delt with the disease - two of them

had children who were vaccinated against it. One of them was an unvaccinated

infant. Everyone of these folks is perfectly fine now. I don't see how the

story of my friend's asthma getting so much better after the whooping cough

scares you. Perhaps her outcome isn't the average person's, but I do think

it is important to remember the germ vs. cell theory - is it the seed or the

soil that makes for a bad case of anything. My friend is a real natural mom

and knew to take her kids off of dairy, wheat, and sugar when they started

getting sick and she began treating them with homeopathics and herbals. As I

stated, all of her children are fine, and so is she. This isn't scary, this

is good news. The pertussis vaccine is the worst of the lot, read September's

Redbook article where the doctor calls it an " embarrassment and dangerous. "

Now that's scary.

[Guest guest]

Finally, this is what I am talking about. This story is common among those I

have spoke with who have had pertussis. This is why this disease scares me.

Thank you for sharing,

[Guest guest]

I replied to a reply.

[Guest guest]

Not into watching my son cough till he is blue in the face I can do the what

ifs forever. I will be having more children & as I have stated before I

believe vaccines work in a good portion of people more than not doing

anything at all. I have also stated before even unvaxed completely healthy

individuals get chickenpox some don't I understand this. The whole thing is

a roulette game. I can sit and look at the ingredients all day long in

vaccines, and know they are bad for my son, but so is everything lese

lotions hair spray, air, water, food, deodorant, tampons, makeup, alcohol,

condoms, detergent, the list of things that are bad for us and the

environment is endless. I do not live in a bubble well that is not entirely

true since I have made the decision not to VAX which has been a good one up

to this point, I have lived in a bubble.

The bottom line is sometimes the way something's come across, you would

think a lot of you wouldn't take and rely on doctors is you or your

children's life depended on it. I mean come on no one would be denying all

the drugs that would be needed to put your child under to have a surgery to

keep him alive. If any of your children did get pertussis and it was a bad

case and your child did need to be hospitalized and homeopathy was not

effective, of course you would not hesitate. So lets not all sit here and be

hypercritical of what reality is. I know the pros and cons of vaxing, some

of you are a little to hard core for me and that is fine, I respect your

decision whatever way you go & have tried some of your ideas. I will say

again if I think by everything I have read, every doctor, homeopath I have

spoke with, every person friend and elder that I know about this and still

choose to VAX then that is my choice and I hope you can respect it. I think

doctors are clueless idiots a lot of times I know more about vaccines than

most of them that I have spoken with, but they know more about diseases and

have seen the effects first hand. Well at least my doctors. But I would rely

on these same clueless idiots to take care of my son if he needed it.