Re: OT no food in the house!

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In a message dated 9/24/00 7:13:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

groneys@... writes:

<<

Hi , NO! You're not a horrible mother! When I started switching our

pantry over to the healthy stuff my husband went bananas too. Then I started

explaining in detail why we were eating the healthier stuff. He won't touch

most of the stuff from the coop but I have found that when I make things out

of organic ingredients, he eats, and likes most things. Just hang in there

girl. You'll get thru this. Men are just men sometimes. His mother probably

raised him on Spam (oh gag me). I'm sure you're doing a great job! :-)

Nanci

>>

The sad thing is I'm not changing much right now, at least not along those

lines. I pretty much have the same stuff I've had for about 5 years. I have

changed that stuff though from about 5% organic to about 90% organic in the

past few weeks though. I don't know what his problem is today!

Hmmm...don't know about spam in his house. His mother is martha stuart (Ok,

maybe not THE martha stuart) It was definately a meat and potatos household

though.

Thanks for cheering me up.

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In a message dated 9/24/00 5:28:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

teresav26@... writes:

<< Sorry for this long, OT post. I'm just so upset. He made it sound like I'm

starving them or something and doesn't know why i'm so upset. I went to

Mom's online to chat (what was I thinking???) and they all felt as if I did

somethign wrong but not having cookies and candy in a special palce at all

times!!! AND, to run out of milk in that place is deadly! Please tell me I'm

not the most horrible mom in the world for not having cookies handy! >>

Dear ,

I am always amazed at how hard it is to do the things that I know are best

for my family. From making decisions on vaccinations to stocking our house

with organic, healthy food, the hard parts come when the rubber hits the road

and I end up having to face the reality of my educated choice. You would

think getting to the point of being educated would be enough to make the

change/transition easy, but's it's not enough. I have found that the only

way my family and myself keep to the straight and narrow path to health in

our junk food pushing society is to align myself with families who are also

struggling with making the same choices. When we get together for potlucks

at each others homes it is a real eye-opener for everyone and really

reassuring to see how many different foods/recipes there are out there that

other families are living, loving, and thriving on! It is a REAL eye-opener

for some of our husbands/working partners as well who might not have to make

the food preparation choices, and might not be exposed to alternative foods

in their work life. I think everyone, dads and kids too, go away from our

potlucks feeling good about our culturally unpopular choices for health and

proud of ourselves for sticking to our guns. We even feel COOL about our

ability to band together and be different.

The other thought I have about going to a pantry that is full of healthy

food and saying " there's nothing in here to eat " is the memory of myself

doing that when I'm not even hungry -- but bored, anxious, or depressed. I

have really worked on myself and my family with the transition to healthy

foods with the help of the book " Nourishing Wisdom: The Mind/Body Approach to

Nutrition. " Marc , the author, has some really incredible things to say

about the food we eat. He believes that you can eat junk in a happy,

celebratory environment and it won't be toxic. He believes that you can eat

healthy food, with an attitude and motivation of fear of disease, and the

toxins from your fearful attitude will outweigh any benefit from the healthy

food.

Just my thoughts on an issue I face every day as well. You're doing

great.

R.

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teresa,

i get this from time to time--my dh, though relatively amiable about my

changing our diets (we're vegetarian, almost vegan--no cow milk, only almond

milk, but still alittle cheese and butter) and going more alternative

medicine-health perspective in the lst year or so, says to me--we eat the

same things everday--there's nothing good to snack on, which as you know in

your own house--there is plenty to snack on. i think it's just a gripe they

use (and they probably know it'll get to us, because of how hard we work to

be diligent in our eating habits) when they are frustrated about something.

who knows??? i'm sure you are doing a great job and keeping your family well

fed!!!!

brigit

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Hi , NO! You're not a horrible mother! When I started switching our

pantry over to the healthy stuff my husband went bananas too. Then I started

explaining in detail why we were eating the healthier stuff. He won't touch

most of the stuff from the coop but I have found that when I make things out

of organic ingredients, he eats, and likes most things. Just hang in there

girl. You'll get thru this. Men are just men sometimes. His mother probably

raised him on Spam (oh gag me). I'm sure you're doing a great job! :-)

Nanci

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Hi ........Okay, I probably shouldn't say this, but I feel I must.

It appears that you do a TON of work in the home to assure that all is

well for your children and your husband. I wonder if it is truly

appreciated by your husband? Since your husband has a *paying* job, and

you don't, what will you do if (god forbid) he ever decides to leave?

Are you really comfortable being totally dependant on him? Just wondering

how you deal with this..........Kim in Seattle

On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:55:32 EDT teresav26@... writes:

>

> Grrr...I could scream! I know this is off topic, but I know here I

> will get

> support! My DH had the gull to tell me today that there is NO FOOD

> IN THE

> HOUSE!!!! When I questioned him he said, No food anyone wants to

> eat. So,

> I asked again what he meant. He's complaining because A) there is no

> cow's

> milk (there is rice and soy) just ran out of cow milk yesterday GOD

> FORBID!!!

> HOW will we make it through the day? W'e'll all die for sure!

> Then, he tells me there is no food for Brady and Abbey (3 and 1) to

> snack on.

> I proceed to take him to the kitchen to show in crackers, pb for

> crackers, cu

> t up veggies and dip, apples, pears, cereal bars, raisins....

> So, he tells me that brady doesn't like any of that. This throws me

> completely as I'm here with brady 24 hours a day. SCott is home a

> few hours a

> day after work (he works LONG, LONG hours) if he's lucky. SO, he

> then says,

> " WEll, yesterday he wanted bread and we didn't have any OH NO!!! He

> failed

> to notice that we DID have homemade muffins, we did have

> crackers...Had he

> wanted a sandwich, could have had something on the crackers. Just

> wanted

> bread could have had a muffin!!! Geez..I baked bread last night. My

>

> breadmaker is in for repairs and I " m not quite as efficient. I don't

> think

> we're on the road to starvations.

> Sorry for this long, OT post. I'm just so upset. He made it sound

> like I'm

> starving them or something and doesn't know why i'm so upset. I

> went to

> Mom's online to chat (what was I thinking???) and they all felt as

> if I did

> somethign wrong but not having cookies and candy in a special palce

> at all

> times!!! AND, to run out of milk in that place is deadly! Please

> tell me I'm

> not the most horrible mom in the world for not having cookies handy!

>

> ANd, in all seriousness, it's not like we NEVER eat them, If we are

> out,

> we'll have cookies occasionally, and every once in a while I " ll bake

> cookies

> from a LLL recipe! Ok, I'm done now.

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 9/25/00 12:58:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

pilot223@... writes:

<< Hi ........Okay, I probably shouldn't say this, but I feel I must.

It appears that you do a TON of work in the home to assure that all is

well for your children and your husband. I wonder if it is truly

appreciated by your husband? Since your husband has a *paying* job, and

you don't, what will you do if (god forbid) he ever decides to leave?

Are you really comfortable being totally dependant on him? Just wondering

how you deal with this..........Kim in Seattle

>>

He does appreciate it. As you can see from all the responses, it's just

something they all go through on occasion. And, I took it extra hard

yesterday for some reason. (I'll chalk it up to PMS) As far as your question

about him leaving: I really, really can't ever see him leaving...it's just

not him. And, he really has no reason to leave. I don't think not having

Doritos in the house will push him out the door. We work well together and

get along great. We really compliment each other, and I don't feel TOTALLY

dependant on him. I have a college degree. Could go back to teaching if I had

to. I also havea VERY small at home cloth diaper/ sling business. I keep

orders to a minimum as I like to just do it in my spare time. It could VERY

easily be expanded. I'm also a substitute receptionist for Weight Watchers. I

work for them a Saturday here and there for fun. ( I lost 56 pounds with them

6 years ago) So, I could always go full time with them. I've never felt

completely dependant on anyone.

AND, though he makes all the money (besides a few $ here and there) I take

care of all the bills and tell him how much he can get out of the ATM every 2

weeks. <G> He hates paying bills, so it works out well. And, if a money

argument comes up I can say, " Hey, *I* pay the bills around here " HAHAHA

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pilot223@... wrote:

>

> Hi ........Okay, I probably shouldn't say this, but I feel I must.

> It appears that you do a TON of work in the home to assure that all is

> well for your children and your husband. I wonder if it is truly

> appreciated by your husband? Since your husband has a *paying* job, and

> you don't, what will you do if (god forbid) he ever decides to leave?

> Are you really comfortable being totally dependant on him? Just wondering

> how you deal with this..........Kim in Seattle

>

Where did this come from????? Why would you assume she is *totally* dependant

on her husband just because of a paycheck? What if SHE decided to leave HIM?

Who would raise the kids and keep them all healthy? Sounds to me like they

are dependant on each other - the way a marriage should be (although making

judgments about a persons marriage based on an email post is ridiculous...)

S.

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