Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Hello i wanted to mention about abuse in regards to the governments old expierments. I have known many cancer patients get much more chemo than needed because some oncologists get a great deal of money from the drug companies.They are encouraged to keep the chemo up till the end, by often giving false hope. I have worked with cancer friends for over 4o years and i have sadly seen this to be true too many times.. I also was given 16 chemo treatments that i did not need, because i was a chemo virgin.I found this out by going for a 5th opinion at the mayo clinic and they kindly told me they couldn't understand why i got any drugs at my stage of CLL. I do think that most oncologists are good beings that want to do the very best for us. don't want to be negative but everyone needs to be more careful when it comes to chemo and the desire to live longer. Best to all Bolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've seen it posted before that oncologists get money from drug companies, but I find that hard to believe. Can someone substantiate this? Or, is the paradigm that oncologists make money on the treatment of their patients? That, of course is true as it should be. I can't believe that any oncologist would knowingly give a patient more chemo than he/she thinks is appropriate. Guess all the more reason to get several opinions and to be sure you have an oncologist well versed in the treatment of CLL or directed by a CLL expert. Lynn > > Hello > i wanted to mention about abuse in regards to the governments old > expierments. > I have known many cancer patients get much more chemo than needed because > some oncologists get a great deal of money from the drug companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 It is true that some oncologists get money from drug companies. For example the research that establishes that a particular product works is usually done by oncologists - they should be paid for the work they do. Drug companies need advice about their products - they should pay for that advice. Oncologists speak at meetings which feature certain drugs. It is reasonable that they are recompensed for their time and effort. Whenever they speak at a meeting or publish a paper, oncologists must declare any financial support that they have had from a drug company. What is forbidden is to tailor advice or comments or research results so as to give an unjustified favorable report on the drug product. Nor should an oncologist earn money for himself on the firm's time. Where money is concerned, there is always a temptation to bend favorably towards the donor. While frank bribery may not be involved, the risk of undue influence is always there. On the other hand capitalism means that people are free to earn a living in their own time and if they have skills that have a market value what is to stop them from profiting by them. Many oncologists donate any fees that they earn to their own department to fund research, Others use them to supplement their pension fund. What is essential is transparency. What would be unacceptable would be for oncologists to treat patients unnecessarily using drugs that they profit from. Terry Hamblin MD In a message dated 19/01/2011 21:49:40 GMT Standard Time, pualynn@... writes: I've seen it posted before that oncologists get money from drug companies, but I find that hard to believe. Can someone substantiate this? Or, is the paradigm that oncologists make money on the treatment of their patients? That, of course is true as it should be. I can't believe that any oncologist would knowingly give a patient more chemo than he/she thinks is appropriate. Guess all the more reason to get several opinions and to be sure you have an oncologist well versed in the treatment of CLL or directed by a CLL expert. Lynn > > Hello > i wanted to mention about abuse in regards to the governments old > expierments. > I have known many cancer patients get much more chemo than needed because > some oncologists get a great deal of money from the drug companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I totally agree with Dr. Hamblin. Doctors are the ones who do the research and do speak to different groups about the effectiveness of the drugs they use on their patients. I was in the nursing field for a very long time and saw the struggles that some doctors had to go through to help get a drug ok'd for use to the public. My oncologist is trying to find a clinical trial that will work for me. I have CLL with nodes and the path report says the Immunophenotype: CD 5, CD 19, DIM CD 20, CD 23, CD 79a and Dim surface LAMBDA LIGHT CHAIN POSITIVE. I was in remission for 14 years. Then I started having symptoms last summer of night sweats, WBC count of over 60,000, enlarged lymph nodes in my neck. Had CT and it showed axilla, groin, chest and near spine enlarged nodes. Right now I am stage 3. I am starting to express fatigue. We are not sure if I am eligible for the new study with the combo of chemo drugs or not yet. Since I had chemo 14 years ago. I want to thank you all for this list and the stories and info I have read on this list. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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