Re: Tetanus Again--Please help

December 26, 2000

At 08:44 PM 12/26/2000 -0000, you wrote:

>I know the subject of tetanus has been discussed before, but my case

>is slightly different. My 17 month old daughter had an injury on her

>heel--looked like a deep splinter. We tried breaking the skin to get

>it, but couldn't find a splinter at all. My husband and I decided to

>get her a tetanus shot (she has been vax free). The ER doc gave her

>1 dose of the tetanus toxoid, never making mention of the human

>immune globulin. After I came home, I read the package insert (which

>they " didn't have " at the hospital for me to read), and it says

>individuals never having tetanus toxoid injections should be given

>the tig after the injury. Can anyone give me advice as to what I

>should do? The injury was not bleeding, and we were concerned about

>that. It was a raised area with something inside looking like 2

>little lines going vertical; it also was red around the area. I'm so

>scared that maybe the toxoid isn't going to be enough or maybe we

>waited too long. It was 2 days after we discovered it that she got

>the shot.

>

>Can someone give me some direction here, please

Go to my webpage and read all on tetanus

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm

#1 Tetanus is EXTREMELY rare. Requires contaminated material with horse

poop with tet in it

No guarantee vaccine works anyway

If no primary series Doctor is supposed to give TIG NOT tetanus vax as for

sure that won't be enough

Tetanus Immune globulin is a BLOOD product - I certainly wouldn't want a

blood product either these days

Read the webpage

Tetanus is extremely rare

No guarantee that the vax even works AT ALL even when given in the series

Also high reactions - I received 2 emails from adults last week with

reactions - serious immune system ones

I know its hard to know what to do, but vaccines are not the answer in MY

opinion.

Just my opinion only.

Sheri

>

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

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December 26, 2000

I would not be too scared.

Not every wound gets infected, it in fact very rarely happens.

My parents did never receive immunisations against tetanus as children.

In India, my husband´s country, people didn´t get vaccines either.

He got his in his teenager years and so did his sisters.

They had numerous falls and injuries while growing up, riding their bikes

and so on.

I understand your concern and your worries but getting injured does not mean

you have to get the disease.

Usually you have to be around dung to get it. Farmland and such.

The doctor in the ER didn´t ask you?

He was not aware of the fact that she was not immunized or why did he just

give the regular shot?

Usually they really give the immune globuline in an unimmunized case.

If you can get your hands on Hypericum C200 or higher I would give her some

3-4 globules.

I was told by my aunt, who is a Homeopath in Germany that this works

wonders.

Take care,

a.

Tetanus Again--Please help

> I know the subject of tetanus has been discussed before, but my case

> is slightly different. My 17 month old daughter had an injury on her

> heel--looked like a deep splinter. We tried breaking the skin to get

> it, but couldn't find a splinter at all. My husband and I decided to

> get her a tetanus shot (she has been vax free). The ER doc gave her

> 1 dose of the tetanus toxoid, never making mention of the human

> immune globulin. After I came home, I read the package insert (which

> they " didn't have " at the hospital for me to read), and it says

> individuals never having tetanus toxoid injections should be given

> the tig after the injury. Can anyone give me advice as to what I

> should do? The injury was not bleeding, and we were concerned about

> that. It was a raised area with something inside looking like 2

> little lines going vertical; it also was red around the area. I'm so

> scared that maybe the toxoid isn't going to be enough or maybe we

> waited too long. It was 2 days after we discovered it that she got

> the shot.

>

> Can someone give me some direction here, please?

>

December 26, 2000

Yes, the dr. was aware that she was not immunized at all, and ordered the DT

for her, but I told him I only wanted the T. I'm thinking maybe the area

was nothing at all to worry about for tetanus; but then he did give her an

antibiotic. I'm going to follow up with my regular dr. tomorrow.

Thanks for your info.

Cyndy

Tetanus Again--Please help

>

> > I know the subject of tetanus has been discussed before, but my case

> > is slightly different. My 17 month old daughter had an injury on her

> > heel--looked like a deep splinter. We tried breaking the skin to get

> > it, but couldn't find a splinter at all. My husband and I decided to

> > get her a tetanus shot (she has been vax free). The ER doc gave her

> > 1 dose of the tetanus toxoid, never making mention of the human

> > immune globulin. After I came home, I read the package insert (which

> > they " didn't have " at the hospital for me to read), and it says

> > individuals never having tetanus toxoid injections should be given

> > the tig after the injury. Can anyone give me advice as to what I

> > should do? The injury was not bleeding, and we were concerned about

> > that. It was a raised area with something inside looking like 2

> > little lines going vertical; it also was red around the area. I'm so

> > scared that maybe the toxoid isn't going to be enough or maybe we

> > waited too long. It was 2 days after we discovered it that she got

> > the shot.

> >

> > Can someone give me some direction here, please?

> >

>

December 26, 2000

They officially don't have the Tetanus vaccine for children just by itself

in this country.

One can actually give the shot for the adults, that's what my husband is

telling me and he is a doctor but they usually refuse to do that because

they just say that they don't have it.

I had a talk with my pediatrician about this issue a long time back.

a.

> Yes, the dr. was aware that she was not immunized at all, and ordered the

DT

> for her, but I told him I only wanted the T. I'm thinking maybe the area

> was nothing at all to worry about for tetanus; but then he did give her

an

> antibiotic. I'm going to follow up with my regular dr. tomorrow.

>

> Thanks for your info.

> Cyndy

> Tetanus Again--Please help

> >

> > > I know the subject of tetanus has been discussed before, but my case

> > > is slightly different. My 17 month old daughter had an injury on her

> > > heel--looked like a deep splinter. We tried breaking the skin to get

> > > it, but couldn't find a splinter at all. My husband and I decided to

> > > get her a tetanus shot (she has been vax free). The ER doc gave her

> > > 1 dose of the tetanus toxoid, never making mention of the human

> > > immune globulin. After I came home, I read the package insert (which

> > > they " didn't have " at the hospital for me to read), and it says

> > > individuals never having tetanus toxoid injections should be given

> > > the tig after the injury. Can anyone give me advice as to what I

> > > should do? The injury was not bleeding, and we were concerned about

> > > that. It was a raised area with something inside looking like 2

> > > little lines going vertical; it also was red around the area. I'm so

> > > scared that maybe the toxoid isn't going to be enough or maybe we

> > > waited too long. It was 2 days after we discovered it that she got

> > > the shot.

> > >

> > > Can someone give me some direction here, please?

> > >

> >

>

December 26, 2000

At 07:35 PM 12/26/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>Yes, the dr. was aware that she was not immunized at all, and ordered the DT

>for her, but I told him I only wanted the T. I'm thinking maybe the area

>was nothing at all to worry about for tetanus; but then he did give her an

>antibiotic. I'm going to follow up with my regular dr. tomorrow.

>

>Thanks for your info.

>Cyndy

The doctor doesn't know what he is doing.

NEVER just give DT or T to someone who isn't vaccinated if worrying about

tetanus

Give TIG

Antibiotic????

Why was that necessary.

Good grief. The medical system will be the death of us all

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

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December 26, 2000

I am not surprised about the antibiotics, nothing of that sort surprises me

when it comes down to having to go to a doctor.

When I got a prescription I usually kept it as a souvenir.

I am antibiotic free and so are my kids.

So far, so good.

a.

Re: Tetanus Again--Please help

> At 07:35 PM 12/26/2000 -0500, you wrote:

> >Yes, the dr. was aware that she was not immunized at all, and ordered the

DT

> >for her, but I told him I only wanted the T. I'm thinking maybe the area

> >was nothing at all to worry about for tetanus; but then he did give her

an

> >antibiotic. I'm going to follow up with my regular dr. tomorrow.

> >

> >Thanks for your info.

> >Cyndy

>

> The doctor doesn't know what he is doing.

> NEVER just give DT or T to someone who isn't vaccinated if worrying about

> tetanus

> Give TIG

>

> Antibiotic????

> Why was that necessary.

> Good grief. The medical system will be the death of us all

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

> 530-272-7306

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

> women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

>

> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

> DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

> Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

> International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

> Education, Homeopathic Education

> KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

> CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

>

December 27, 2000

I tend to agree.

a.

> It sounds to me like the doctor saw a " good opportunity " to immunize a

child

> who otherwise would not have been. I mean, this is a doctor... surely he

> would have known to give her the immune globulin if there had been any

real

> risk of tetnus???? The antibiotic could have been given to get rid of an

> infection that was there, or as likely, to pacify your concerns. I think

> that maybe there was no real concern for your worries, and the doctor took

> advantage of you. My opinion...Sharon

> Tetanus Again--Please help

> > >

> > > > I know the subject of tetanus has been discussed before, but my case

> > > > is slightly different. My 17 month old daughter had an injury on

her

> > > > heel--looked like a deep splinter. We tried breaking the skin to

get

> > > > it, but couldn't find a splinter at all. My husband and I decided

to

> > > > get her a tetanus shot (she has been vax free). The ER doc gave her

> > > > 1 dose of the tetanus toxoid, never making mention of the human

> > > > immune globulin. After I came home, I read the package insert

(which

> > > > they " didn't have " at the hospital for me to read), and it says

> > > > individuals never having tetanus toxoid injections should be given

> > > > the tig after the injury. Can anyone give me advice as to what I

> > > > should do? The injury was not bleeding, and we were concerned about

> > > > that. It was a raised area with something inside looking like 2

> > > > little lines going vertical; it also was red around the area. I'm

so

> > > > scared that maybe the toxoid isn't going to be enough or maybe we

> > > > waited too long. It was 2 days after we discovered it that she got

> > > > the shot.

> > > >

> > > > Can someone give me some direction here, please?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 27, 2000

It sounds to me like the doctor saw a " good opportunity " to immunize a child

who otherwise would not have been. I mean, this is a doctor... surely he

would have known to give her the immune globulin if there had been any real

risk of tetnus???? The antibiotic could have been given to get rid of an

infection that was there, or as likely, to pacify your concerns. I think

that maybe there was no real concern for your worries, and the doctor took

advantage of you. My opinion...Sharon