Re: New York-Help..what to do...(Plus Intro)

[Guest guest]

hi shelly,

welcome!! glad you are here.

no you do not have to belong to any particular religion in NY state to claim

a religious exemption. but, you do need to be careful and don't volunteer

any info about your religion or any of your beliefs--it's unnecessary and may

come back to haunt you when you do put in your exemption. there are however

some school districts that will try to force you to " prove " your religious

convictions before they grant you an exemption--this is a violation of your

rights in NYS. there is no personal exemption in NY--unfortunately. have

you begun your exemption process yet? have you contacted anyone about

writing an exemption yet? where in NY are you located? i am in NY also, and

will probably need to do an exemption next year (my now 6 yr old was fully

vaxed up to age 5--before i knew better--so when i entered him in

kindergarten i didn't have the problem i will now). when you go to register

your child there should be a section on the back of the registration form

that you need to either sign stating that your child will be fully inoculated

or mark no they won't be and that is where you would attach your religious

exemption.

here is a website of an attorney who does tons of ny exemptions--check out

his webpage: www.immunizationattorney.com

there are a few other sources i can locate for you but i am very pressed for

time right now--i will write later!! )

brigit

[Guest guest]

HI -

Contact one of the NVIC state leaders in New York- Bonnie Franz....

at bpfc@.... Or, 315-393-2950. She lives in

Ogdensburg, New York on the border with Prescott, Canada.

Sheri

At 01:44 PM 10/15/2000 -0400, you wrote:

> HI, My name is and I have two children. 4yr.(totally

>vaccinated) and Clay..11mos and NOT vaccinated. I basically consider

>myself this way...We are a cloth diper'in,breastfeed'in,sling'in,family

>bedd'in,non-circ'in and non-vaccinat'in family. My daughter will be

>entering kindergarden next year and I DON " T want to vaccinate her

>anymore...she will hopefully be going to a private kindergarden school

>verses public...this is my dilemma...I just read this: " If the parents are

> " bona fide members of a recognized religious organization whose

>teachings/tenets are contrary to the practices herein required. " " no

>certificate shall be required. " NYPHL §2164.9. The Legislature has

>established the test of membership in a religious organization whose

>teachings are contrary to the immunization required by this section,

>rather than a personal belief in such teachings, in order to secure an

>exemption. Op. Commissioner Educ. Dept., 1972 12 Educ. Dept. Rep. 56. Where

> parents held bona fide religious beliefs prohibiting vaccination and

>immunization, child would not be required to be vaccinated or immunized in

>order to attend school and neglect petition filed on basis of parents

>failure to obtain such immunization, would be dismissed. In re R.

>1975, 81 Misc.2d 286, 366 NYS 2d 309 " have done to much already.

>THanks

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[Guest guest]

I am in Saratoga Springs. I would love to see your letter.

Thanks!!

Re: New York-Help..what to do...(Plus Intro)

>

>

> > hi shelly,

> > welcome!! glad you are here.

> > no you do not have to belong to any particular religion in NY state to

> claim

> > a religious exemption. but, you do need to be careful and don't

> volunteer

> > any info about your religion or any of your beliefs--it's unnecessary

and

> may

> > come back to haunt you when you do put in your exemption. there are

> however

> > some school districts that will try to force you to " prove " your

religious

> > convictions before they grant you an exemption--this is a violation of

> your

> > rights in NYS. there is no personal exemption in NY--unfortunately.

have

> > you begun your exemption process yet? have you contacted anyone about

> > writing an exemption yet? where in NY are you located? i am in NY

also,

> and

> > will probably need to do an exemption next year (my now 6 yr old was

fully

> > vaxed up to age 5--before i knew better--so when i entered him in

> > kindergarten i didn't have the problem i will now). when you go to

> register

> > your child there should be a section on the back of the registration

form

> > that you need to either sign stating that your child will be fully

> inoculated

> > or mark no they won't be and that is where you would attach your

religious

> > exemption.

> > here is a website of an attorney who does tons of ny exemptions--check

out

> > his webpage: www.immunizationattorney.com

> > there are a few other sources i can locate for you but i am very pressed

> for

> > time right now--i will write later!! )

> > brigit

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sid and - Do you have a reference to the " Federal Bill " that would

lead me to being able to get a copy of it, please? Thanks. Sandy

[Guest guest]

I may of asked this before, but where are you in NYS and I am also in NYS,

I have an exemption letter you could look at also..I have gotten one into

school

but had a tiny problem, but he is now in. They have no right to ask what

religion

you are. According to the Federal Bill you could worship a tree and it is

none of

their business..*LOL*

Hornell, NY

Re: New York-Help..what to do...(Plus Intro)

> hi shelly,

> welcome!! glad you are here.

> no you do not have to belong to any particular religion in NY state to

claim

> a religious exemption. but, you do need to be careful and don't

volunteer

> any info about your religion or any of your beliefs--it's unnecessary and

may

> come back to haunt you when you do put in your exemption. there are

however

> some school districts that will try to force you to " prove " your religious

> convictions before they grant you an exemption--this is a violation of

your

> rights in NYS. there is no personal exemption in NY--unfortunately. have

> you begun your exemption process yet? have you contacted anyone about

> writing an exemption yet? where in NY are you located? i am in NY also,

and

> will probably need to do an exemption next year (my now 6 yr old was fully

> vaxed up to age 5--before i knew better--so when i entered him in

> kindergarten i didn't have the problem i will now). when you go to

register

> your child there should be a section on the back of the registration form

> that you need to either sign stating that your child will be fully

inoculated

> or mark no they won't be and that is where you would attach your religious

> exemption.

> here is a website of an attorney who does tons of ny exemptions--check out

> his webpage: www.immunizationattorney.com

> there are a few other sources i can locate for you but i am very pressed

for

> time right now--i will write later!! )

> brigit

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I may not have gotten your first post since I just joined. You

referred to a " Federal Bill " , which I believe must outline rules for

religious exemptions, or has something to do with them. I would like to be

able to read what you were referring to. Thanks. Sandy

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy..do you mean where I copied the excerpt from in my first

post??

Re: New York-Help..what to do...(Plus Intro)

> Sid and - Do you have a reference to the " Federal Bill " that

would

> lead me to being able to get a copy of it, please? Thanks. Sandy

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry..I am still a little computer unsavvoy...here is the link.

Actually..it is in the links off of www.909shot.com ...anyway..the exact

url is http://www.access1.net/via/STATES/req-ny.htm .

Re: New York-Help..what to do...(Plus Intro)

> , I may not have gotten your first post since I just joined. You

> referred to a " Federal Bill " , which I believe must outline rules for

> religious exemptions, or has something to do with them. I would like to

be

> able to read what you were referring to. Thanks. Sandy

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Senate Bill 942#3380, Exemption From Immunizations. Immunizations of a

person shall not be required for admission to a

school or other institution if the guardian parent or adult has assumed

responsibility for his or her custody or care in the

case of a minor, or the person seeking admission themselves, files with the

governing authority a letter or

affidavit stating that such vaccination is contrary to his or her belief.

In addition, the Supreme Court has noted that

nontraditional beliefs, including secular humanism, atheism and nontheistic

faith, ae all " religion " for the purpose of

free exercise analysis. Fowler vs. Rhode Island, 345 U.S. 67 (1953) held

that it was " NO BUSINESS OF THE

COURTS TO SAY WHAT IS A RELIGIOUS PRACTIVE OR ACTIVITY FOR ONE GROUP IS NOT

RELIGION

UNDER THE PROTECTION OFTHE FIRST AMENDMENT. "

I use it in my exemption letter.. and they still have the " nerve " to ask me

what my religion is!!!!

Re: New York-Help..what to do...(Plus Intro)

> Sid and - Do you have a reference to the " Federal Bill " that

would

> lead me to being able to get a copy of it, please? Thanks. Sandy

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