Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 --- kevin janega <kjanega@...> wrote: > it seems to be a recurring theme with the dairy. I recently found out that I am violently lactose intolerant. I imagine it is all part of the same auto-immune condition; that is, that the arthritis did not " cause " the lactose intolerance, and the lactose intolerance did not " cause " the arthritis. Rather, they both share a common source: a generally weak immune system. , North Jersey Highlands raharris@... http://satipatthana.org __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 My experience with dairy is that you have to eliminate it for awhile (maybe a month?) to notice any differences. Also, it's surprising how many foods have dairy in them when you read the packages. So to truly test yourself as to how dairy affects you, it's important to read everything that goes into your mouth. For instance, if you eat anything baked, it might have dairy. Some kind of chips have dairy, etc. And even if you can tolerate lactose or casein, dairy is mucous producing. Anyone with sinus problems or asthma should probably avoid dairy. (I'm giving myself a lecture right now because I need to exclude dairy also, and I've been in denial about it.) Marsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 Hi Marsha, " My experience with dairy is that you have to eliminate it for awhile (maybe a month?) to notice any differences. Also, it's surprising how many foods have dairy in them when you read the packages. So to truly test yourself as to how dairy affects you, it's important to read everything that goes into your mouth. For instance, if you eat anything baked, it might have dairy. Some kind of chips have dairy, etc. And even if you can tolerate lactose or casein, dairy is mucous producing. Anyone with sinus problems or asthma should probably avoid dairy. " I keep getting that answer. Even my health provider keeps telling me this. UUGGHH!! Well, I have to listen to my body. I am planning on chicken soup this week and fish, so hopefully I can avoid cheese by the end of the week, no sooner! I know what you mean about the foods that have dairy. I have to read all labels and cook 80% of my food from scratch because the diet I am on, The Specific Carbohydrate Diet, says no sugar and no added milk. When I first started in November, I couldn't believe how much stuff had milk added. We are allowed to have aged cheeses and yogurt, but like I said, I think the whole food category will have to go. BOO HOO! " I've been in denial about it.) " I am coming out of my denial too. God bless, KJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 I disagree. Unless it creates too much mucus for you, raw dairy is a wonderful health food. Abbadi " M. " <puhutes@...> wrote:then again, no one should eat dairy There aren't __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Milk is over rated. I can't believe how much milk I used to drink. I loved the stuff. The cattle providing the milk live no where near a natural lifestyle these days. I'd say milk is a dairy everyone with candidiasis should avoid. > Re: Dairy > > > I disagree. Unless it creates too much mucus for you, raw dairy is a > wonderful health food. Abbadi > > " M. " <puhutes@...> wrote:then again, no one should eat > dairy There aren't > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 My doctor agrees with you. There is too much crap given to the cows, all the antibiotics and such. Candace _____ From: DJ Tech [mailto:candida@...] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:48 AM candidiasis Subject: RE: Dairy Milk is over rated. I can't believe how much milk I used to drink. I loved the stuff. The cattle providing the milk live no where near a natural lifestyle these days. I'd say milk is a dairy everyone with candidiasis should avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 That could be, but honestly, I think there is a law against that here in Canada. Maybe not, but I cannot find unpasturized dairy ANYWHERE. Not even at the healthfood stores. It simply does not exist here I guess maybe if I went to a farmer and asked, but not in any stores. *8-) --- Abbadi <kmabbadi@...> wrote: > I disagree. Unless it creates too much mucus for > you, raw dairy is a wonderful health food. > Abbadi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Yes and hormones. I think that the hormones given to the cattle have a lot to do with why the young kids are maturing physically so much quicker compared to the past. > RE: Dairy > > My doctor agrees with you. There is too much crap given to the cows, all > the antibiotics and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Stoneyfield farms make good yogurt IMHO. I find raw butter in the supermarkets but I'm in Michigan. Us lucky Americans huh > Re: Dairy > > That could be, but honestly, I think there is a law > against that here in Canada. Maybe not, but I cannot > find unpasturized dairy ANYWHERE. Not even at the > healthfood stores. It simply does not exist here I > guess maybe if I went to a farmer and asked, but not > in any stores. > > *8-) > > --- Abbadi <kmabbadi@...> wrote: > > I disagree. Unless it creates too much mucus for > > you, raw dairy is a wonderful health food. > > Abbadi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Protein in general has a lot to do with that too. Protein is needed for growth. We now consume 60-70% more animal protein than we did in th early 1900s. *8-) --- DJ Tech <candida@...> wrote: > Yes and hormones. I think that the hormones given > to the cattle have a lot > to do with why the young kids are maturing > physically so much quicker > compared to the past. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 And if that isn't enough bad news on the dairy, if you've read Hulda , she says all dairy is full of parasites. And that you should boil milk and butter (ghie) before using. Makes sense to me. RE: Dairy > Protein in general has a lot to do with that too. > Protein is needed for growth. We now consume 60-70% > more animal protein than we did in th early 1900s. > > *8-) > > --- DJ Tech <candida@...> wrote: > > Yes and hormones. I think that the hormones given > > to the cattle have a lot > > to do with why the young kids are maturing > > physically so much quicker > > compared to the past. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:18:32 -0400 (EDT) From: " M. " <puhutes@...> That could be, but honestly, I think there is a law against that here in Canada. Maybe not, but I cannot find unpasturized dairy ANYWHERE. I guess maybe if I went to a farmer and asked, but not in any stores. Hi , That's what I did. Here in Oregon, it's not illegal to sell raw milk but you can't find it anywhere in the stores. The commercial dairies won't even sell it to you. So I found a family that had two cows and is selling raw milk. Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Okay yes... yogurt and butter and cheese, but " raw milk " simply does not exist here. It is all pasturized. *8-) --- DJ Tech <candida@...> wrote: > Stoneyfield farms make good yogurt IMHO. I find raw > butter in the > supermarkets but I'm in Michigan. Us lucky > Americans huh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Oh boy! Never thought of that either *puke* *8-) > And if that isn't enough bad news on the dairy, if > you've read Hulda , > she says all dairy is full of parasites. And that > you should boil milk and > butter (ghie) before using. Makes sense to me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Milk is currently one of my allergies. I get diarrhea when I eat cheese and stopped up if I drink milk. I may consider buying raw just to see if there will be a difference. I tried goats, and there was no difference with that but I am curious to know if raw will be a different story We have an organic farmers market here every Saturday... so I will check it out! *8-) > > Hi , > > That's what I did. Here in Oregon, it's not > illegal to sell raw milk but > you can't find it anywhere in the stores. The > commercial dairies won't even > sell it to you. So I found a family that had two > cows and is selling raw > milk. > > Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 > That could be, but honestly, I think there is a law > against that here in Canada. Maybe not, but I cannot > find unpasturized dairy ANYWHERE. Not even at the > healthfood stores. It simply does not exist here I > guess maybe if I went to a farmer and asked, but not > in any stores. > It is illegal to sell or give away raw milk anywhere in Canada. Only the person who owns the animal may use the unpasteurized milk. It is even illegal for a farmer to give unpasteurized milk to his family if you can believe it. It's very draconian. The penalty in Ontario can be up to $250,000 and 3 years in jail. http://www.realmilk.com/ Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 GAH!!! SERIOUSLY?? Who makes these rules? Europe sells unpasturized milk and delivers it door to door still. When and why did we ever get out of that tradition? Why are we not allowed the choice? *phew* okay... I am really damn unhappy about that! Thanks *8-) > It is illegal to sell or give away raw milk anywhere > in Canada. > Only the person who owns the animal may use the > unpasteurized milk. > > It is even illegal for a farmer to give > unpasteurized milk to his family if you can believe > it. > It's very draconian. > > The penalty in Ontario can be up to $250,000 and 3 > years in jail. > http://www.realmilk.com/ > > Bruce > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 *nod* Agreed.. crazy that weed is now " legal " but we can't even choose healthy milk if we want to! *8-) --- Abbadi <kmabbadi@...> wrote: > How facist! I drink raw milk all the time and have > had no problems. You all should protest to your > government. Abbadi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 > > > That could be, but honestly, I think there is a law > > against that here in Canada. Maybe not, but I cannot > > find unpasturized dairy ANYWHERE. Not even at the > > healthfood stores. It simply does not exist here I > > guess maybe if I went to a farmer and asked, but not > > in any stores. > > A little off topic but .......... Has anyone noticed how many people on this forum are from Ontario, Canada? Is there mould in the air here or something that so many of us have Candida??? ............ Chemtrails are full of mould! That's it!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 I agree Re: Dairy > > > I disagree. Unless it creates too much mucus for you, raw dairy is a > wonderful health food. Abbadi > > " M. " <puhutes@...> wrote:then again, no one should eat > dairy There aren't > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 I can't remember the reason for that, but I vaguely remember a health story as to why they started pasteurizing in the first place. I've seen unpasterized milk (I think). I don't drink milk, so I can't be 100% sure, but doesn't Organic Meadows have one? Did you search online? Later Mich Re: Dairy That could be, but honestly, I think there is a law against that here in Canada. Maybe not, but I cannot find unpasturized dairy ANYWHERE. Not even at the healthfood stores. It simply does not exist here I guess maybe if I went to a farmer and asked, but not in any stores. *8-) --- Abbadi <kmabbadi@...> wrote: > I disagree. Unless it creates too much mucus for > you, raw dairy is a wonderful health food. > Abbadi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Then why use butter, why not just use oil? RE: Dairy > Protein in general has a lot to do with that too. > Protein is needed for growth. We now consume 60-70% > more animal protein than we did in th early 1900s. > > *8-) > > --- DJ Tech <candida@...> wrote: > > Yes and hormones. I think that the hormones given > > to the cattle have a lot > > to do with why the young kids are maturing > > physically so much quicker > > compared to the past. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Hi , What about rice cheese? I love it & even my son loves it. I can get you the name of it if you want. If there is any dairy in it, it's very small minute amounts that it doesn't affect me & I think it tastes like mozzarella & can't eat the real stuff anymore. LOL Re: Re: Dairy Milk is currently one of my allergies. I get diarrhea when I eat cheese and stopped up if I drink milk. I may consider buying raw just to see if there will be a difference. I tried goats, and there was no difference with that but I am curious to know if raw will be a different story We have an organic farmers market here every Saturday... so I will check it out! *8-) > > Hi , > > That's what I did. Here in Oregon, it's not > illegal to sell raw milk but > you can't find it anywhere in the stores. The > commercial dairies won't even > sell it to you. So I found a family that had two > cows and is selling raw > milk. > > Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Geeze, Well that doesn't mean we have to follow everything. I'm of the adage that we are responsible for ourselves & so long as I'm not harming anyone else, it's my decision. I don't believe the government owns us, or knows what's best for us. In fact, I feel they harm us more than they help us, but hey, I'm just one person amongst masses that do what they are told. LOL Cya Re: Dairy > That could be, but honestly, I think there is a law > against that here in Canada. Maybe not, but I cannot > find unpasturized dairy ANYWHERE. Not even at the > healthfood stores. It simply does not exist here I > guess maybe if I went to a farmer and asked, but not > in any stores. > It is illegal to sell or give away raw milk anywhere in Canada. Only the person who owns the animal may use the unpasteurized milk. It is even illegal for a farmer to give unpasteurized milk to his family if you can believe it. It's very draconian. The penalty in Ontario can be up to $250,000 and 3 years in jail. http://www.realmilk.com/ Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 Hey, when did they legalize it behind my back? LOL I thought they reversed legalization b/c the States was threatening with their big bad wolf ways? Back & forth, back & forth LOL Re: Dairy *nod* Agreed.. crazy that weed is now " legal " but we can't even choose healthy milk if we want to! *8-) --- Abbadi <kmabbadi@...> wrote: > How facist! I drink raw milk all the time and have > had no problems. You all should protest to your > government. Abbadi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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