Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 A lurker here, but thought I'd chime in: My 5 yr old son (not aspie, but my older daughter is) had two brief episodes of spontaneous bruising like thumb sized prints/bruises covering his legs and torso. I believe it is a condition called autoimmune thrombocytopenia (or idiopathic) it can follow a viral illness. Supposedly an autoimmune reaction against the platelets is triggered and is usually temporary (for my son each episode of visible bruising lasted just a day or two) but while the platelet count is low the child could experience internal bleeding from an injury etc, a nosebleed might also be a symptom. So he should get a blood work up to check his platelet counts. Interestingly, my oldest 16 y/o daughter (not my aspie dd who is 12) is being monitored for possible lupus and one of her symptoms is petechiae-pin point spots of blood leaking into the skin, it is also due to low platelet counts caused by autoimmune problems. I have read that autoimmune conditions, anxiety/ocd and aspergers/HFA can often all exist within same family. nancy grace > > Do you ever feel like you have become your own doctor? I have been > battling my son's doctors for over a year now on his bruising issue. > My son is AS and Bi-Polar 1. He takes Risperdal and Prozac. He has > been bruising very easily since I can remember. Just recently it has > gotten worse and now his liver function enzymes are climbing. They > have done all of the standard blood tests a million times and have > concluded that he doesn't have a blood disorder.... so that leads me > to believe his medicines are the problem right? Why can't I get a > doctor to confer and help me out on this? He is literally covered in > bruises and it is making me sick to even look at him while I am > bathing him. I can't let him go to swimming lessons anymore because > it just looks aweful. People are now staring at him in the stores.. I > am afraid I am going to get called on child abuse. And my son will > agree to anything you say so if someone would ask him if mommy beats > him, he would reply yes. I am scared for him and I just don't know > what to do anymore. Has anyone else had this experience? HELP! > > Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Hi , Yes, that is what I thought too, that the bruising is because of a low platelet count. But I didn't realize it could be caused from a virus. This is probably what my son had when he got sick, a virus. But the doctors didn't ever say that, were more worried about worse things at the time I think. When he was only 4 years old he had mono nucleoisis, and was sick for a long time. Kids that age don't usually get it but when they are older, is why they call it the "kissing disease." Anyway I always wondered if this somehow triggered the platelet problem, with the spleen and all. And now he has diabetes. He drank pretty heavily for years and I think this hurt his pancreas, but maybe it was already weakened from these things. He has to take medication now to keep his blood sugar down, but no insulin, and is doing pretty well as long as he eats right and doesn't drink at all anymore. Anyway he is going to be 45 years old tomorrow! My first little baby boy I had when I was only 18 years old. Tells you how old I am, sheesh! Carolyn Re: Bruising A lurker here, but thought I'd chime in: My 5 yr old son (not aspie, but my older daughter is) had two brief episodes of spontaneous bruising like thumb sized prints/bruises covering his legs and torso. I believe it is a condition called autoimmune thrombocytopenia (or idiopathic) it can follow a viral illness. Supposedly an autoimmune reaction against the platelets is triggered and is usually temporary(for my son each episode of visible bruising lasted just a day or two)but while the platelet count is low the child could experience internal bleeding from an injury etc, a nosebleed might also be a symptom. So he should get a blood work up to check his platelet counts. Interestingly, my oldest 16 y/o daughter (not my aspie dd who is 12) is being monitored for possible lupus and one of her symptoms is petechiae-pin point spots of blood leaking into the skin, it is also due to low platelet counts caused by autoimmune problems. I have read that autoimmune conditions, anxiety/ocd and aspergers/HFA can often all exist within same family.nancy grace> > Do you ever feel like you have become your own doctor? I have been > battling my son's doctors for over a year now on his bruising issue. > My son is AS and Bi-Polar 1. He takes Risperdal and Prozac. He has > been bruising very easily since I can remember. Just recently it has > gotten worse and now his liver function enzymes are climbing. They > have done all of the standard blood tests a million times and have > concluded that he doesn't have a blood disorder.... so that leads me > to believe his medicines are the problem right? Why can't I get a > doctor to confer and help me out on this? He is literally covered in > bruises and it is making me sick to even look at him while I am > bathing him. I can't let him go to swimming lessons anymore because > it just looks aweful. People are now staring at him in the stores.. I > am afraid I am going to get called on child abuse. And my son will > agree to anything you say so if someone would ask him if mommy beats > him, he would reply yes. I am scared for him and I just don't know > what to do anymore. Has anyone else had this experience? HELP!> > Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 All of his blood tests have come out normal. Normal blood platelet counts, normal bleeding time, normal iron... etc. Its a mystery! He takes two vitamins a day with extra C in them as well. I am just accepting the fact that he is an easy bruiser. Austin has two left feet so that doesn't help. And lately I have had to restrain him when he goes into rages. Him pulling away has caused more bruising.... I think I finally got through to the doctor this morning. I am getting a Hematologists opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Maybe that is the answer then. Austin also has PANDAS! Pediatric Autoimmune Neurological Disorder Associated with Streptococci. Every time he gets sick, this is what happens. His behvavior goes down hill and he bruises like crazy. It makes sense now. Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Hi I know you already said you had your son tested for platelets, iron, etc. I just got on a roll when I wrote about my son, etc. I knew you were already doing all you could for your son, sorry if I implied you weren't. I hate it when people do that with me. Yes, I would want to find out why he is having the bruising though, some things take perseverance, well what am I saying, a LOT of things do especially with children. And I agree that would be good to get a heomatolotists opinion, assuming that is a blood doctor.... Carolyn Re: Bruising All of his blood tests have come out normal. Normal blood platelet counts, normal bleeding time, normal iron... etc. Its a mystery! He takes two vitamins a day with extra C in them as well. I am just accepting the fact that he is an easy bruiser. Austin has two left feet so that doesn't help. And lately I have had to restrain him when he goes into rages. Him pulling away has caused more bruising.... I think I finally got through to the doctor this morning. I am getting a Hematologists opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 I have red hair and bruise really easy. This went away when I increased both my vitamin C and cayenne or hot peppers. See Dick Quinn's book Left for Dead for information on how cayenne helps to strengthen capillaries etc. and improve circulation. Jeanne -------------- Original message -------------- From: Tifanie <tshimanski@...> Just wondering if anyone knows what you're dificient in if you bruise easily. I've had lots of troubles with this lately and can't figure it out. Help, Tifanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Tifanie, It can be a sign of leukemia, AIDs, allergies, anemia, cancer, hemophilia infections obesity and abnormal platelet functions related to a kidney or liver disorder, according to Prescription for Nutritional Healing. More likely, you need increased amounts of Vitamin C or Vitamin K, which is found in alfalfa, you can take it in tablet form if you don't want to make a salad from your nearest hayfield ;-) I hope this helps, beth beth Buchele RSHom(NA) CCH* Professional Homeopath Offices in St. Louis Park, MN 952-933-6068 and Menomonie, WI 715-231-6068 _www.healthnaturally.biz_ (http://www.healthnaturally.biz/) *Registered with The Society of Homeopaths, North America Certified in Classical Homeopathy In a message dated 4/13/2006 11:48:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, tshimanski@... writes: Just wondering if anyone knows what you're dificient in if you bruise easily. I've had lots of troubles with this lately and can't figure it out. Help, Tifanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Alfalfa is also available as liquid chlorophyll. We use DeSouza's because it is in glass, does not contain preservatives, and they do not use flavoring. Cheap. $12 for 16 ounces that lasts for 60 days. Use 1/2 tablespoon in glass of water. REFRIGERATE after opening. I use a straw and be careful about spilling it. Liquid chlorophyll can also be used as a blood transfusion as well as coconut water, saline, or sea water. All are preferable to blood which contains the sludge of another person. No dangerous side effects. Chlorophyll has many other reasons to be used. Re: Bruising Tifanie, It can be a sign of leukemia, AIDs, allergies, anemia, cancer, hemophilia infections obesity and abnormal platelet functions related to a kidney or liver disorder, according to Prescription for Nutritional Healing. More likely, you need increased amounts of Vitamin C or Vitamin K, which is found in alfalfa, you can take it in tablet form if you don't want to make a salad from your nearest hayfield ;-) I hope this helps, beth beth Buchele RSHom(NA) CCH* Professional Homeopath Offices in St. Louis Park, MN 952-933-6068 and Menomonie, WI 715-231-6068 _www.healthnaturally.biz_ (http://www.healthnaturally.biz/) *Registered with The Society of Homeopaths, North America Certified in Classical Homeopathy In a message dated 4/13/2006 11:48:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, tshimanski@... writes: Just wondering if anyone knows what you're dificient in if you bruise easily. I've had lots of troubles with this lately and can't figure it out. Help, Tifanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I checked all these blood work.Everything wnl -- In , " marchjo " <marchjo@...> wrote: > > Bruising can be the result of the following vitamin deficiencies: > B1, B3, B6, C, biotin, and vitamin K. Have you done a complete set of > labs and reviewed their daily vitamin supps? > > Ava > > > > > > 2 of our patients complain of easy bruising. We checked vit K. It is > > within normal limits. What else can it be? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I would assure that she has a generous intake/supplement of Vitamin K (probably more than standard RDA of 120 mcg). Since it is one of the fat soluble vitamins, this may be low just like Vitamin A, D and E. Bartholomay, LRDManager, Nutrition TherapyMeritCare Health Systems.Bartholomay@...(701) 234-6166Strengths: Arranger, Ideation, Adaptability, Empathy, Maximizer>>> "katherinerountree" <rountreedietetics@...> 1/14/2010 4:05 PM >>> Good afternoon! I have a gastric bypass (sx date 7-2-09) patient who is complaining of extreme bruising. She gave herself a B12 injection at the beginning of the month and if left a fist sized bruise and she is avoiding short dresses and skirts because her legs are so bruised. At her last surgical F/U, her labs were all WNL with a slightly low K+ (3.3). Any ideas? I think this same issue has been posted in the past. If so, I apologize.Thanks!Kate H. Rountree, LDN, RDRountree Dietetics, LLCLafayette, LA This e-mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act 18 U.S.C. Section 2510-2521. This e-mail is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this e-mail message from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 When you say all the labs are normal, does this include a complete iron panel? Vitamin C, agreebit could be K as well.Jeanne Blankenship, MS RDOn Jan 14, 2010, at 4:05 PM, "katherinerountree" <rountreedietetics@...> wrote: Good afternoon! I have a gastric bypass (sx date 7-2-09) patient who is complaining of extreme bruising. She gave herself a B12 injection at the beginning of the month and if left a fist sized bruise and she is avoiding short dresses and skirts because her legs are so bruised. At her last surgical F/U, her labs were all WNL with a slightly low K+ (3.3). Any ideas? I think this same issue has been posted in the past. If so, I apologize. Thanks! Kate H. Rountree, LDN, RD Rountree Dietetics, LLC Lafayette, LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Bob, I have the same problem and was dx with " acquired " von Willebrands disease. Your hem/onc should check your Factor 8 and PTT levels. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Bob <mellowman4444@...> wrote: > > > Hey everyone. I get these little bruises randomly on different parts of my > body. They are about hickey sized and take a long time to go away. Only one > at a time but really strange. I have been dx since May 2010 but I know I've > had cll a long time. I really knew something was wrong for at least 3 years, > just thought I was getting old. Any way, thanks in advance for your > responces. > Bob > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I have not heard of bruising as a result of the iodine protocol. I find when I bruise easily, it is a lack of vitamin C. Are you taking the companion nutrients? Vitamin C, Magnesium, Selenium and unrefined Celtic Sea Salt? Kathleen bruising Please could someone comment on bruising. I have an unexplained bruise around my elbow. I am wondering if it is a result of iodine protocol which I am new to ( one month)Thank you,Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 bruising is one symptom of low thyroid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 absolutely low vitamin c will cause bruising. i had bruising but it was kind of reddish, not the blues. if i brushed my arm against the cereal box, it would bruise. the cardiologist said oh we have delicate skin do we. well i started vitamins and ended my bruising on my own. again, don't know what doctors learn today but it doesnt seem to be useful. diane, near philly, pa On Apr 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Kathleen Blake wrote:I have not heard of bruising as a result of the iodine protocol. I find when I bruise easily, it is a lack of vitamin C. Are you taking the companion nutrients? Vitamin C, Magnesium, Selenium and unrefined Celtic Sea Salt? Kathleen bruising Please could someone comment on bruising. I have an unexplained bruise around my elbow. I am wondering if it is a result of iodine protocol which I am new to ( one month)Thank you,Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Tammy, you need your platelet count checked urgently. Terry Hamblin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I have started to bruise real bad and they are taking awhile to go away. I have CLL/SLL, is this something to be concerned about? I have always been prone to bruising, but now they are really bad and I don't know how I am getting them, and as bad as they are I really should remember hitting myself on something. Just wondering if this might be sign of progression. Thanks for your info and advice on this matter. dx: 5 yrs. no treatment yet (yeah!) W & W ~Tammy~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 There shouldn't be horrible bruising but some minor bruising and discoloration is normal. Though they shouldn't be bruised to the point they hurt to touch. Jenn Mommy to Cole & Max On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM, <kfaul@...> wrote: got cast 2 removed yesterday. Initially I was sad that I couldn't notice a change in his back. However this morning it looked better. The tshirt made a huge difference! No pressure sores. His first sore looked ok. If the cast had to stay on another week or so it wouldve opened up again. The only thing that was noticeable was the bruising on his rib hump. Is this common? His rib hump doesn't look smaller but the curve looks smaller. gets cast 3 on Wednesday. Hope everyone has a great Labour Day weekend! Keeley Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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