Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Well, we can probably use our own stem cells from bone marrow for awhile. After those run out, we'll need some way to rejuvenate THOSE... and then... ....It's off to Mexico! Vive' el Libertad! Arrrrriba!!! | I know I am going to regret this one - hopefully it does not become a new soap box for and her pals.... | | According to the research that I have read, all clinical studies done on stem cells. Embryo stem cells show less results that using the persons own stem cells taken from blood, marrow or the small intestine (which has the largest concentration of stem cells). Unfortunately I don't have any links because this was something I read in a journal and heard a professor speak. | The speaker went on to say that using stem cells harvested from a relative has shown better promise and results than embryo. | Embryo stemcell is restricted by the government for obvious reasons. | Donor stem cell research and treatment, and patient stem cell research and treatment is not. | | If someone could let me know if this is correct, or if there is any other information on this. | Thank you | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 hmmm. let me do some sleuthing. I'll keep everyone posted if I find anything out. On 5/31/05, joyce kaye <jamkaye@...> wrote: > > When you find out where to go to get stem cells I will drive the boat, > airplane and or bus! I have some MS friends who went to Biomark in Mexico > and they have said don't go there because it is a waste of money. They > didn't receive enough stem cells to make a difference or if it did make a > difference the old symptoms eventually came back. joyce > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Hi Sara, There are a few people doing stem cell therapy but not too many in the US. It has been know for a couple decades (so I've been told on this list) in Europe and other countries. The update that I think you are referring to is Carol Sieverling. She posted an update of her stem cell therapy through Dr. Cheney. She travels to Panama (I believe). Try searching her name or stem cell in the search bar to see any old posts. Personally, I commend those who are pursuing this avenue. The risk and cost are great but they forge ahead. I also think that it will play a final part in recovery/cure in addition to methylation, correcting gut dysbiosis and all of the other systems that most people are working on - the endocrine system, etc. I think methylation will be the biggest part of that but it seems that for a portion of the dysfunction, perhaps stem cell therapy will be needed. I don't have any solid basis for that thought - just a feeling. I have not researched this as I cannot in any way afford it so I research those things that are within my grasp. Marti > > Was it on this forum that a gal posted last fall as to having stem cell therapy for her CFS? Wasn't her name Kay? Would love to hear an update as to her care. > > 60 Minutes did a report on scam artist taking hundreds of thousands from ALS patients for stem cell work----very sad. I personally think stem cells can help a lot of illness---maybe even ours down the road. > > God Bless, > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 There was a woman named Kay who went to Mexico for stem cell therapy. I think she had been three times the last I saw any postings from her. She was not a patient of Dr. Cheney's, but I don't know (or remember), who her doc was. Donna in NC -------------------------------------------------- From: " marti_zavala " <marti_zavala@...> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:56 PM < > Subject: Re: Stem Cells > Hi Sara, > > There are a few people doing stem cell therapy but not too many in the US. > It has been know for a couple decades (so I've been told on this list) in > Europe and other countries. > > The update that I think you are referring to is Carol Sieverling. She > posted an update of her stem cell therapy through Dr. Cheney. She travels > to Panama (I believe). > > Try searching her name or stem cell in the search bar to see any old > posts. > > Personally, I commend those who are pursuing this avenue. The risk and > cost are great but they forge ahead. I also think that it will play a > final part in recovery/cure in addition to methylation, correcting gut > dysbiosis and all of the other systems that most people are working on - > the endocrine system, etc. > > I think methylation will be the biggest part of that but it seems that for > a portion of the dysfunction, perhaps stem cell therapy will be needed. I > don't have any solid basis for that thought - just a feeling. I have not > researched this as I cannot in any way afford it so I research those > things that are within my grasp. > > Marti > > >> >> Was it on this forum that a gal posted last fall as to having stem cell >> therapy for her CFS? Wasn't her name Kay? Would love to hear an update >> as to her care. >> >> 60 Minutes did a report on scam artist taking hundreds of thousands from >> ALS patients for stem cell work----very sad. I personally think stem >> cells can help a lot of illness---maybe even ours down the road. >> >> God Bless, >> Sara >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Hello Everyone, I'm the Kay who is getting Placenta Stem Cell treatments. I got my 4th a month ago. Dr.  gave me PSC injections in my head the last 2 treatments for brain, hypothalamus, and pituitary function and my improvement with head injections added to body implants has been terrific. I no longer have heart issues, a hiatal hernia, acheing & pain is all but gone, no longer need the chiropractor every 2 weeks, allergies are minimal since the PSCs have modulated my immune system, cognitive and neurological symptoms have improved markedly, my endocrine system and metabolism are working better, and I'm sleeping better than in years. I take 10mg. of Doxepin to help me fall asleep then sleep all night or wake up once at the most. Getting good sleep is so appreciated. And I'm still taking a little over the counter allergy meds this spring but my allergies are not nearly as bad as before. I stopped taking all supplements and other meds months ago. Just living without pills is freeing. My current healing process is much easier. I hope that means that the biggest repairs are behind me. We'll see. Anyway that's my latest news. I'm continueing to improve and heal. My body is overall less taxed and feels more normal. The website for my doctor is www.istemcelli.com. Kay  ________________________________ From: marti_zavala <marti_zavala@...> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 10:56:59 AM Subject: Re: Stem Cells  Hi Sara, There are a few people doing stem cell therapy but not too many in the US. It has been know for a couple decades (so I've been told on this list) in Europe and other countries. The update that I think you are referring to is Carol Sieverling. She posted an update of her stem cell therapy through Dr. Cheney. She travels to Panama (I believe). Try searching her name or stem cell in the search bar to see any old posts. Personally, I commend those who are pursuing this avenue. The risk and cost are great but they forge ahead. I also think that it will play a final part in recovery/cure in addition to methylation, correcting gut dysbiosis and all of the other systems that most people are working on - the endocrine system, etc. I think methylation will be the biggest part of that but it seems that for a portion of the dysfunction, perhaps stem cell therapy will be needed. I don't have any solid basis for that thought - just a feeling. I have not researched this as I cannot in any way afford it so I research those things that are within my grasp. Marti > > Was it on this forum that a gal posted last fall as to having stem cell therapy for her CFS? Wasn't her name Kay? Would love to hear an update as to her care. > > 60 Minutes did a report on scam artist taking hundreds of thousands from ALS patients for stem cell work----very sad. I personally think stem cells can help a lot of illness---maybe even ours down the road. > > God Bless, > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Kay, the istemcelli website does not say where they are located. Did you go to Panama or Costa Rica? Or where? --Gloria ________________________________ From: Kay Siegrist <ksiegr@...> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 7:03:59 PM Subject: Re: Re: Stem Cells Hello Everyone, I'm the Kay who is getting Placenta Stem Cell treatments. I got my 4th a month ago. Dr. gave me PSC injections in my head the last 2 treatments for brain, hypothalamus, and pituitary function and my improvement with head injections added to body implants has been terrific. I no longer have heart issues, a hiatal hernia, acheing & pain is all but gone, no longer need the chiropractor every 2 weeks, allergies are minimal since the PSCs have modulated my immune system, cognitive and neurological symptoms have improved markedly, my endocrine system and metabolism are working better, and I'm sleeping better than in years. I take 10mg. of Doxepin to help me fall asleep then sleep all night or wake up once at the most. Getting good sleep is so appreciated. And I'm still taking a little over the counter allergy meds this spring but my allergies are not nearly as bad as before. I stopped taking all supplements and other meds months ago. Just living without pills is freeing. My current healing process is much easier. I hope that means that the biggest repairs are behind me. We'll see. Anyway that's my latest news. I'm continueing to improve and heal. My body is overall less taxed and feels more normal. The website for my doctor is www.istemcelli. com. Kay ____________ _________ _________ __ From: marti_zavala <marti_zavala> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 10:56:59 AM Subject: Re: Stem Cells Hi Sara, There are a few people doing stem cell therapy but not too many in the US. It has been know for a couple decades (so I've been told on this list) in Europe and other countries. The update that I think you are referring to is Carol Sieverling. She posted an update of her stem cell therapy through Dr. Cheney. She travels to Panama (I believe). Try searching her name or stem cell in the search bar to see any old posts. Personally, I commend those who are pursuing this avenue. The risk and cost are great but they forge ahead. I also think that it will play a final part in recovery/cure in addition to methylation, correcting gut dysbiosis and all of the other systems that most people are working on - the endocrine system, etc. I think methylation will be the biggest part of that but it seems that for a portion of the dysfunction, perhaps stem cell therapy will be needed. I don't have any solid basis for that thought - just a feeling. I have not researched this as I cannot in any way afford it so I research those things that are within my grasp. Marti > > Was it on this forum that a gal posted last fall as to having stem cell therapy for her CFS? Wasn't her name Kay? Would love to hear an update as to her care. > > 60 Minutes did a report on scam artist taking hundreds of thousands from ALS patients for stem cell work----very sad. I personally think stem cells can help a lot of illness---maybe even ours down the road. > > God Bless, > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Do not go to Mexico for stem cells. According to Dr. Cheney you may be only getting a placebo. I went for the therapy and I intend to repeat it this summer. I went with Dr. Cheney last May and will go again this June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 I know MANY in Mexico are cons but there are Many cons in the USA.. I do NOT like it when someone " stereotypes " EVERYONE like that... I have known some folks that HAVE gone to ONE clinic in Mexico and they do NOT charge the prices like the 60 Min. Idiot and they totally explained their methods which made a lot more sense and did not make blanket promises like that guy either.... Better to say.. Be Careful and DO your Research Thoroughly.....IMHO I run a Group forum for patients that have HAD stem cell treatments so they can empathize with folks that KNOW what they have ben thru sand are going thru... I will send you an invitation... the other so far are also Cheney patients.. but they just returned and are mostly recouping and resting right now.. so when they fell better the group should get more active... I'm HAPPY for you that you were able to go... *cheers* From: Rice <taxdoc@...> Subject: Re: Stem Cells Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:29 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Hi Gloria, I fly into Mc, Texas then cross the border into Mexico for treatment. It takes about 2 hours. Then back to the hotel in Mc and fly home the day after treatment. ISCI patient trips are organized in groups that stay in the same hotel with patient orientation the evening before treatment. Kay ________________________________ From: Gloria <gloriaj8790@...> Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 3:06:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: Stem Cells  Kay, the istemcelli website does not say where they are located. Did you go to Panama or Costa Rica? Or where? --Gloria ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Kay Siegrist <ksiegr (DOT) com> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 7:03:59 PM Subject: Re: Re: Stem Cells Hello Everyone, I'm the Kay who is getting Placenta Stem Cell treatments. I got my 4th a month ago. Dr. gave me PSC injections in my head the last 2 treatments for brain, hypothalamus, and pituitary function and my improvement with head injections added to body implants has been terrific. I no longer have heart issues, a hiatal hernia, acheing & pain is all but gone, no longer need the chiropractor every 2 weeks, allergies are minimal since the PSCs have modulated my immune system, cognitive and neurological symptoms have improved markedly, my endocrine system and metabolism are working better, and I'm sleeping better than in years. I take 10mg. of Doxepin to help me fall asleep then sleep all night or wake up once at the most. Getting good sleep is so appreciated. And I'm still taking a little over the counter allergy meds this spring but my allergies are not nearly as bad as before. I stopped taking all supplements and other meds months ago. Just living without pills is freeing. My current healing process is much easier. I hope that means that the biggest repairs are behind me. We'll see. Anyway that's my latest news. I'm continueing to improve and heal. My body is overall less taxed and feels more normal. The website for my doctor is www.istemcelli. com. Kay ____________ _________ _________ __ From: marti_zavala <marti_zavala> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 10:56:59 AM Subject: Re: Stem Cells Hi Sara, There are a few people doing stem cell therapy but not too many in the US. It has been know for a couple decades (so I've been told on this list) in Europe and other countries. The update that I think you are referring to is Carol Sieverling. She posted an update of her stem cell therapy through Dr. Cheney. She travels to Panama (I believe). Try searching her name or stem cell in the search bar to see any old posts. Personally, I commend those who are pursuing this avenue. The risk and cost are great but they forge ahead. I also think that it will play a final part in recovery/cure in addition to methylation, correcting gut dysbiosis and all of the other systems that most people are working on - the endocrine system, etc. I think methylation will be the biggest part of that but it seems that for a portion of the dysfunction, perhaps stem cell therapy will be needed. I don't have any solid basis for that thought - just a feeling. I have not researched this as I cannot in any way afford it so I research those things that are within my grasp. Marti > > Was it on this forum that a gal posted last fall as to having stem cell therapy for her CFS? Wasn't her name Kay? Would love to hear an update as to her care. > > 60 Minutes did a report on scam artist taking hundreds of thousands from ALS patients for stem cell work----very sad. I personally think stem cells can help a lot of illness---maybe even ours down the road. > > God Bless, > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 " may " is the operative word. My stem cell doctor is in Mexico, has been doing Placenta Stem Cell treatment for 20 years and does excellent honorable work. In all countries including the US there are doctors who excellent, some who are average, and a few who should be avoided. I did my homework and am more than satisfied with my results. Kay ________________________________ From: Rice <taxdoc@...> Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 10:29:01 AM Subject: Re: Stem Cells  Do not go to Mexico for stem cells. According to Dr. Cheney you may be only getting a placebo. I went for the therapy and I intend to repeat it this summer. I went with Dr. Cheney last May and will go again this June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 how much does the treatment cost in mc allen? is it similar to panama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Each treatment is $12,500 and includes body placements plus head injections. The deposit to confirm appointments is $2,500 then the remaining $10,000 is paid at the time of treatment. Kay ________________________________ From: susan letteer <sletteer@...> Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 11:08:30 AM Subject: Re: Stem Cells  how much does the treatment cost in mc allen? is it similar to panama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 This is a little out there for me but listening to my daughter and daughter-in-law talk over the weekend, they said that in childbirth they are asked if they want to keep the placenta, etc. for future stem cell use. I am assuming that this is a fairly new practice. Would grandchildren's stem cells work with a CLL patient or is it just siblings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 From what i have been told, two cords have enough stem cells for an adult. I tried to organize that when my daughter had her baby last March, but was told that no old hospitals have the facility to do it, I did a lot of research trying to find out if it could be donated but it was not possible. The organization that deals with this in the UK said it was very costly to have the facility in all hospitals so only a few in the country did it. Regards Chonette (UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 We need to be pro-active about getting the word out about cord donations. I'm sure a lot of people here are involved in one of the " social networks " . Please post something about the fact that donating the cord could save a life and ask your friends to spread the word to any of their friends who are expecting. Smaller hospitals may not have the facilities to handle the donations, but larger hospitals and especially teaching hospitals are more likely to. No one is going to do this for us, so let's do it for ourselves. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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