Guest guest Posted June 21, 2000 Report Share Posted June 21, 2000 Here goes...remember you asked for it......children must ride rear facing until they are at least 20 lbs AND 1 year old. Many pediatricians (say hooray for peds again!!) will say that it is ok to turn a baby around if they reach 20 lbs prior to one year if they can sit up but it is very WRONG. It has nothing to do with muscular strength; it has to do with the ossification of the vertebrae. This information (which is apparent to the rest of the world, but not to us in north amarica) is based on autopsy findings. In addition to this, the baby's height is important....the baby's head should be 1-2 inches from the top of the seat. In a typical collision the baby's head ramps upwards and it needs the support of the car seat. It does not matter if the baby's legs reach the back of the seat or are bent. In a serious collision the worse that would happen is broken legs (which I would prefer to potential decapitation (yes it has happened) and serious spinal injuries if the baby was forward facing prematurely). Also as Sara was kind enough to point out....5 pt harnesses are much better that the sheild or the bar. In a typical collision....all loose articles move forward....this includes baby's head and chest. The shield and bar do not move forward. Baby wacks head and/or chest into the sheild or bar causing potentially life threatening injuries. The harness should also be on snugly. There should be no more than a finger or two between child and harness. The child should not be padded....technically some say that the child should not even have a coat on (never mind blankets) because the force of a collision would compress the fluffy clothing and provide too much slack (I just put the harness on tightly in the winter... is used to it). It is also best to use a car seat with a tether strap (not yet manditory in the US). A rear facing tether is a very good idea also. When installed...the car seat should only move a maximum of 1-2 inches. Preferably it shouldnt move at all. For us Canadians the weight restrictions for rear facing car seats does not exceed 22lbs. So if you happen to have a big baby (as I do), technically you are supposed to turn the car seat around. However, Britax is now availlable in Canada....the manufacturer says that the car seat is exactly the same as the US which allows rear facing up to 30 lbs. The problem is that in Canada they only test car seats using a 22 lb dummy....they dont test with the 35 lb dummy...obviously the Canadian officials dont think that big babies exist. There are other car seats that allow for rear facing past 22 lbs...I just cant recall who they are right now (sorry). Car seats should not be second hand unless you are absolutely sure about the history (ie not in any crashes), and car seats do have an expiry date. Geez....did I forget anything??? PS As for Shelby's problem...Im not sure what to do about your little Houdini....I havent researched booster seats as in depth as I have the car seat stuff. Ill look around. They may say 3 years because of weight and height restrictions.....but Im not sure what they really should be. Maybe a different car seat with a different type of latch would help.....its expensive but Im not sure what else to suggest....wow. Here are good sources: http://www.parentsoup.com/library/babyres/carseat.html http://rainforest.parentsplace.com/dialog/get/carseats3/11/4.html http://boards2.parentsplace.com/messages/get/ppcarseats98/36/1/1.html http://www.childsafety.org/ my favorite....a good long read: http://www.carseat.org/ Happy reading, and her car safe, breastfed, unvaccinated 13 month old ... > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:16:29 EDT > From: nnu29@... > Subject: Re: Baby center/carseat? > > In a message dated 6/21/00 7:49:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > helminger@... writes: > > << > Jeeze, why would people get bent about carseats? > S. >> > Must be the shield vs. 5 pt harness debate.Ofcourse we all know how dnagerous > shield/bar seats are!!!!! > Sara > > > ________________________________________________________________________Message: 21 > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:21:58 -0400 > From: Shelby <helminger@...> > Subject: Re: Car seats > > Well, I have a question then. > My 22 month old can undo the clasp on his car seat (5pt harness, Britax Roundabout). I have been considering getting him a booster seat that uses a regular seat belt so he couldn't do this anymore. I like Britax so I was looking at the Cruiser, it says 30-80lbs (good), but 3 to 6 years. Why 3 years? Would putting > him in it at 2 be dangerous? > They make ones that don't have any age limits but I either don't like the manufacturer or they are 5pt harnesses, which would be pointless. > Any thoughts? > S. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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