Flu vaccine

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yes - hold on - I have one a GREAT ONE but it may be bookmarked at work.

jeannine

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What I find interesting about this is the blatancy of the scare tactic, and at the same time it's subtlety. People are refusing the fl vaccine, and in order to draw more of those people in, now that we're used to hearing about it for months on end every year and it's routine to most people to get one's flu shot, they say, "Oh, no! We might not have enough for everybody! What if you don't get yours, and then the flu comes around and there's none left? You better clamour to get it early!" and it'll work! That's the sad part... I'm trying to add little bits and pieces here and there on our WWWeb site to get people started thinking about vaccines and hospital births and the medical system in general (I realise that not everyone here shares my views on these things and I just want to get it out right up front that I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. You're obviously thinking about your choices and making choices with which you're comfortable or you wouldn't Be here looking into things and I respect your choices. :->) What are things that folks here have Been able to say to others or show to others to just plant a seed? What sorts of things only draw defensive reactions? For those of you who are vaccinating and are comfortable with that, what is it that makes you want to investigate it and understand it for your Self? Thanks for any input, and congrats to and Troy!!! Are you homebirthing? (You sound pretty relaxed is why I ask. :->)

Be...

Peace........................ :->

Flu vaccine

Breaking storyProduction of flu vaccine has been delayed, officials sayBy nna RileyOf the Post-Dispatch(St. Louis Post Dispatch) Health officials here are hoping that the flu bug won't fly in early, because a slow-growing virus has caused a snafu in the manufacturing of the flu vaccine. Supplies will be delayed and possibly in short supply.

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Peace,

The tactic I always use, which is very nonthreatening and makes me feel

like I'm doing something, at least, is I mention things in a very normal

way. For example, when I'm at work, and someone is looking

at mobiles, I say, "If you are going to use a crib, you may want

this one, but this one here is good if you don't have a crib." By

saying something like this I'm implying that not everyone uses a crib,

and that it's an option not to. But I'm not actually entering a discussion

about family bed, which someone might find threatening or just too weird,

unless they ask me about it. Once someone did actually ask me what

I use instead of a crib! I also always make sure to say things like,

"If you're going to use a bottle..." or "If you plan to use

disposable diapers...". the "If" implies that there are other options,

which some people are oblivious to. I am also very free with my own

experiences. For instance, if someone is asking about diaper rash,

I'll say, "well, my daughter has never had a diaper rash, but she uses

cloth diapers, so maybe that's why." That's also nonthreatening (as

opposed to saying, "your kid has diaper rash because you're using disposables."

It also opens the dialogue, and provides them with an opportunity to ask

me more questions. I use that "if " thing for everything, including

vaccinations. I find people are more open to discussing alternatives

if you don't threaten their mind set about things, but instead just present

the options and use your own experience as an example. Similarly,

when talking to people about their births, I never assume they had a hospital

birth (even though most do); I always ask "Did you have a home birth?"

Sometimes I am pleasantly surprised and a great conversation ensues.

Or with a pregnant woman, I'll say "Do you have a midwife?" Again,

usually the answer is no, but at least it plants that seed in their head

that there is such a thing and they are available (and legal and paid for!)

The funny thing I have found is that our families are so impressed with

how healthy and happy and secure and just generally well-adjusted my daughter

is, but these are the same people who think it's weird that we are attachment

parents, eat organically, don't vaccinate, etc, etc. They somehow

are unable (or subconsciously unwilling) to make the connection.

It just makes me laugh! Anyway, sorry for the ramble, I'm studying

for my physiology final and I've had my head stuck in my text book all

morning and my brain is going in too many directions at once! Hope

this was helpful!

Peace HomoFreakian wrote:

What I find interesting about this is the blatancy of the scare tactic,

and at the same time it's subtlety. People are refusing the fl vaccine,

and in order to draw more of those people in, now that we're used to hearing

about it for months on end every year and it's routine to most people to

get one's flu shot, they say, "Oh, no! We might not have enough for everybody!

What if you don't get yours, and then the flu comes around and there's

none left? You better clamour to get it early!" and it'll work! That's

the sad part... I'm trying to add little bits and pieces here and there

on our WWWeb site to get people started thinking about vaccines and hospital

births and the medical system in general (I realise that not everyone here

shares my views on these things and I just want to get it out right up

front that I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. You're obviously thinking

about your choices and making choices with which you're comfortable or

you wouldn't Be here looking into things and I respect your choices. :->)

What are things that folks here have Been able to say to others or show

to others to just plant a seed? What sorts of things only draw defensive

reactions? For those of you who are vaccinating and are comfortable with

that, what is it that makes you want to investigate it and understand it

for your Self? Thanks for any input, and congrats to and Troy!!!

Are you homebirthing? (You sound pretty relaxed is why I ask. :->) Be...Peace........................

:->

Flu vaccine

Breaking story

Production of flu vaccine has been delayed, officials say

By nna Riley

Of the Post-Dispatch

(St. Louis Post Dispatch)

Health officials here are hoping that the flu bug won't fly in early,

because

a slow-growing virus has caused a snafu in the manufacturing of

the flu

vaccine.

Supplies will be delayed and possibly in short supply. [snip]

[Guest guest]

Thanks ! That's exactly the sort of thing I'm lookin' for. I approach these things pretty much the same way you do, so I guess I'll just have to wait for opportunities for it to come up. :-> 'Preciate your input!

Be...Peace............................ :->

Re: Flu vaccine

Peace, The tactic I always use, which is very nonthreatening and makes me feel like I'm doing something, at least, is I mention things in a very normal way. For example, when I'm at work, and someone is looking at mobiles, I say, "If you are going to use a crib, you may want this one, but this one here is good if you don't have a crib." By saying something like this I'm implying that not everyone uses a crib, and that it's an option not to. But I'm not actually entering a discussion about family bed, which someone might find threatening or just too weird, unless they ask me about it.

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I've posted tons in the last few weeks - do you want it again privately?

also much is on my website

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/flu.htm

Sheri

At 04:49 PM 10/10/2000 -0600, you wrote:

>I need all the info on the flu vaccine. My mom's work is really pushing for

>the vaccine.

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>HELP!!! and TIA

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>Influenza Vaccine Composition: Southern Hemisphere Influenza Season

>The composition of the vaccine for year 2001 (southern hemisphere influenza

>season) has been decided and communicated to vaccine manufacturers by the

>World Health Organization (WHO), following agreement on its content by

>international experts at a WHO meeting held in Crete, Greece. The experts

>recommended that the influenza vaccine for 2001 (Southern Hemisphere)

>contain the following three components: an A/Moscow/10/99 (H3N2)-like virus

>(A/Panama/2007/99 is an A/Moscow/10/99-like virus); an A/New Caledonia/20/99

>(H1N1)-like virus; and, a B/Sichuan/379/99-like virus. The detection of new

>influenza viruses is made possible through the WHO network for influenza

>surveillance and control composed of 110 National Influenza Centres in 82

>countries and the four WHO Collaborating Centres for Virus Reference and

>Research in Australia, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States of

>America. This network helps WHO monitor influenza activity in all regions of

>the world and ensures that virus isolates and information are sent rapidly

>to the WHO Collaborating Centres for Virus Reference and Research for

>immediate strain identification.

>Source: World Health Organization, Press Release, September 29, 2000

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>List Owner of Vaccinations and Vaccine Info

>www.geocities.com/mom2q (my work in progress!)

>Mom of two great kids who are vaccine free!

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Mosby's GenRx®, 10th ed.

Copyright © 2000 Mosby, Inc.

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Influenza Virus Vaccine (001533)

CATEGORIES:

Indications: Immunization, influenza

Pregnancy Category C

WHO Formulary

FDA Pre 1938 Drugs

FDA DRUG CLASS: Vaccines/Antisera

BRAND NAMES: Agrippal (Italy, South-Africa); Alorbat (Germany); Begrivac

(Austria, Germany); Begrivac F (Israel); Flu Shield (US); Fluarix

(New-Zealand, Mexico, Hong-Kong); Fluimmune (US); Fluogen (US); Flushield

(US); Fluvax (Australia, New-Zealand, Korea); Fluvirin (US); Fluvirine

(France); Fluzone (US); Hiberix (Australia); Inflexal (Spain, Austria,

Italy); Inflexal Berna (Philippines, South-Africa); Inflexal Berna

Polyvalent Vaccine (Malaysia); Influvac (Benin, Burkina-Faso, Ethiopia,

Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Ivory-Coast, Kenya, Liberia, Malawi, Mali,

Mauritania, Mauritius, Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Seychelles,

Sierra-Leone, Sudan, Tanzania, Tunia, Uganda, Zambia, Zimbabwe; Bahrain,

Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Oman,

Qatar, Republic-of-Yemen, Saudi-Arabia, Syria, United-Arab-Emirates);

Mutagrip (Germany, Belgium, Spain, Netherlands, France); Sandovac

(Austria); Vaxigrip (New-Zealand, Denmark, Netherlands, France, Greece,

Belgium, Bulgaria, Norway, Austria, Hong-Kong, Korea, Philippines,

South-Africa, Israel); X-Flu (South-Africa);

(International brand names outside U.S. in italics)

DESCRIPTION:

Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A and B (chromatograph- and

filter-purified subvirion antigen)

1993-94 formula

DO NOT INJECT INTRAVENOUSLY Influenza virus vaccine, trivalent, types A and

B (purified subvirion) is a sterile injectable for administration

intramuscularly.

Influenza virus vaccine, trivalent, types A and B (purified subvirion) is

prepared from the allantoic fluids of chick embryos inoculated with a

specific type of influenza virus. During processing, not more than 5 mcg of

gentamicin sulfate per ml is added. The harvested virus is inactivated with

formaldehyde and is concentrated and purified.

Influenza virus vaccine, trivalent, types A and B (purified subvirion) is

concentrated and refined by a column-chromatographic procedure. At the same

time, addition of tri(n)butylphosphate and polysorbate 80, to the

column-eluting fluids effects disruption and inactivation of a significant

proportion of the virus to smaller subunit particles. The recovered

subvirion (split-virus) suspension is freed of substantial portions of the

disrupting agents by dialysis and of other undesirable materials by

selective filtration through membranes of controlled pore size.

The viral antigen content has been standardized by immunodiffusion tests,

according to current U.S. Public Health Service requirements. Each dose

(0.5 ml) contains the proportions and not less than the microgram amounts

of hemagglutinin antigens (mcg HA) representative of the specific

components recommended for the current influenza season.

The vaccine contains 1:10,000 thimerosal (mercury derivative) as a

preservative. Gentamicin sulfate is used during manufacturing but is not

detectable in the final product by current assay procedures.

CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY:

The administration of inactivated influenza vaccine to high-risk persons

each year before the influenza season is the single most important

influenza-control measure.1

The injection of antigens prepared from inactivated influenza virus

stimulates the production of specific antibodies. Protection is afforded

only against those strains of virus from which the vaccine is prepared or

closely related strains. With the passing of time, there may be major

antigenic changes in the prevalent strains, or there may be continuous and

progressive antigenic variation within a given virus subtype over time

(antigenic drift), so that infection or immunization with one strain may

not induce immunity to distantly related strains. Field studies of

influenza vaccines conducted on many occasions since the 1940's have shown

marked variation in efficacy, as measured by protection from disease,

ranging from undemonstrable to 70-80%. The PHS regularly reviews the

antigenic characteristics of current strains in order to select those to be

included in the contemporary vaccine.

INDICATIONS AND USAGE:

Influenza virus vaccine is recommended for 1) high-risk persons 6 months of

age or older and for their medical-care providers or household contacts; 2)

for children and teenagers receiving long-term aspirin therapy who,

therefore, may be at increased risk of developing Reye's syndrome after an

influenza virus infection; and 3) for other persons who wish to reduce

their chances of acquiring influenza.

Guidelines for the use of vaccine among different groups are given below.

Target Groups for Vaccination

Groups at Increased Risk for Influenza-Related Complications:

1. Otherwise healthy persons 65 years of age or older.

2. Residents of nursing homes and other chronic-care facilities

housing patients of any age with chronic medical conditions.

3. Adults and children with chronic disorders of the pulmonary or

cardiovascular systems requiring regular medical follow-up or

hospitalization during the preceding year, including children with

asthma.

4. Adults and children who have required regular medical follow-up or

hospitalization during the preceding year because of chronic metabolic

diseases (including diabetes mellitus), renal dysfunction,

hemoglobinopathies, or immunosuppression (including immunosuppression

caused by medications).

5. Children and teenagers (aged 6 months to 18 years) who are

receiving long-term aspirin therapy and, therefore, may be at risk of

developing Reye's syndrome after influenza infection.

Elderly persons and persons with certain chronic diseases may develop lower

post-vaccination antibody titers than healthy young adults and thus may

remain susceptible to influenza upper-respiratory-tract infections.

Nevertheless, even if such persons develop influenza illness, the vaccine

has been shown to be effective in preventing lower-respiratory-tract

involvement or other complications, thereby reducing the risk of

hospitalization and death.

Groups Potentially Capable of Nosocomial Transmission of Influenza To

High-Risk Persons

Individuals attending high-risk persons can transmit influenza infections

to them while they are themselves incubating infection, undergoing

subclinical infection, or working despite the existence of symptoms. Some

high-risk persons, (e.g., the elderly, transplant recipients, persons with

acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS)), can have relatively low

antibody responses to influenza vaccine. Efforts to protect them against

influenza may be improved by reducing the chances that their care providers

may expose them to influenza. Therefore, the following groups should be

vaccinated:

1. Physicians, nurses, and other personnel in both hospital and

outpatient settings.

2. Providers of home care to high-risk persons (e.g., visiting nurses,

volunteer workers) as well as all household members of high-risk

persons, including children, whether or not they provide care.

Vaccination of Other Groups

General Population: Physicians should administer influenza vaccine to any

person who wishes to reduce his/her chances of acquiring influenza

infection. Persons who provide essential community services and students or

other healthy individuals in institutional settings (i.e., schools and

colleges) should be encouraged to receive vaccine to minimize the

disruption of routine activity during outbreaks.

Pregnant Women: Influenza-associated excess mortality among pregnant women

has not been documented, except in the largest pandemics of 1918-19 and

1957-58. However, pregnant women who have medical conditions increasing

their risks of complications from influenza should be vaccinated, as the

vaccine is considered safe for pregnant women. Administering the vaccine

after the first trimester is a reasonable precaution to minimize any

concern over the theoretical possibility of teratogenicity. However, it is

undesirable to delay vaccination of pregnant women with high-risk

conditions who will still be in the first trimester of pregnancy when the

influenza season begins.

Persons Infected With Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV): Little

information exists regarding the frequency and severity of influenza

illness in human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-infected persons, but recent

reports suggest that symptoms may be prolonged and the risk of

complications increased for this high-risk group. Because influenza may

result in serious illness and complications, vaccination is a prudent

precaution and will result in protective antibody levels in many

recipients. However, the antibody response to vaccine may be low in persons

with advanced HIV-related illnesses; a booster dose of vaccine has not

improved the immune response for these individuals.

Foreign Travelers: The risk of exposure to influenza during foreign travel

varies, depending on, among other factors, season of travel and

destination. Influenza can occur throughout the year in the tropics; the

season of greatest influenza activity in the Southern Hemisphere is

April-September. Because of the short incubation period for influenza,

exposure to the virus during travel will often result in clinical illness

that begins during travel, an inconvenience or potential danger, especially

for persons at increased risk for complications. Persons preparing to

travel to the tropics at any time of year or to the Southern Hemisphere

during April-September should review their vaccination histories. If not

vaccinated the previous fall/winter, they should be considered for

influenza vaccination prior to travel. Persons in the high-risk categories

especially should be encouraged to receive the vaccine. The most current

available vaccine should be used. High-risk persons given the previous

season's vaccine prior to travel should be revaccinated in the fall/winter

with current vaccine.1

Immunization Programs

If this product is to be used in an immunization program sponsored by an

organization WHERE A TRADITIONAL PHYSICIAN/PATIENT RELATIONSHIP DOES NOT

EXIST, each participant (or legal guardian) should be made aware of the

possible risks that have been associated with the use of influenza virus

vaccines, including the possible risk of a form of paralysis sometimes

known as Guillain-Barre syndrome. Information about possible side effects

and adverse reactions is presented below, and consent, preferably written,

should be obtained from the intended recipient (or legal guardian) before

vaccine administration.

Simultaneous Administration of Pneumoccal or Pediatric Vaccines:

Pneumococcal vaccine and influenza vaccine can be given at the same time at

different sites without increased side effects. However, it should be

emphasized that whereas influenza vaccine is given annually, it is

currently recommended that, with few exceptions, pneumococcal vaccine be

given only once.1

It may be desirable to simultaneously administer influenza vaccine, if

indicated, with routine pediatric vaccine but at different sites. Although

studies have not been done, no diminution of immunogenicity or enhancement

of adverse reactions should be expected.1 Influenza vaccine should not be

given within 3 days of vaccination with pertussis vaccine.

CONTRAINDICATIONS:

INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE SHOULD NOT BE ADMINISTERED TO INDIVIDUALS WITH A

HISTORY OF HYPERSENSITIVITY (ALLERGY) TO CHICKEN EGG OR OTHER COMPONENTS OF

INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINES WITHOUT FIRST CONSULTING A PHYSICIAN (SEE ADVERSE

REACTIONS). Before being vaccinated, persons known to be hypersensitive to

egg protein should be given a skin test or other allergy-evaluating test,

using the Influenza Virus Vaccine as the antigen. Persons with adverse

reactions to such testing should not be vaccinated. Chemoprophylaxis may be

indicated for prevention of influenza A in such persons. However, persons

with a history of anaphylactic hypersensitivity to vaccine components but

who are also at highest risk for complications of influenza infections may

benefit from vaccine after appropriate evaluation and desensitization.1

Although gentamicin sulfate is not detectable in the final product by

current assay procedures, the vaccine should not be administered to persons

with known sensitivity to gentamicin or other aminoglycosides.

Persons with a past history of Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS) should not be

given influenza virus vaccine.

Persons with acute febrile illnesses usually should not be vaccinated until

their symptoms have abated. However, minor illness with or without fever

should not contraindicate the use of influenza vaccine, particularly in

children with a mild upper-respiratory-tract infection or allergic

rhinitis.3

WARNINGS:

Patients with impaired immune responsiveness, whether due to the use of

immunosuppressive therapy (including irradiation, large amounts of

corticosteroids, antimetabolites, alkylating agents, and cytotoxic agents),

a genetic defect, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, leukemia,

lymphoma, generalized malignancy, or other causes, may have a reduced

antibody response to active immunization procedures.1 Short-term (less than

2 weeks) corticosteroid therapy or intra-articular, bursal, or tendon

injections with corticosteroids should not be immunosuppressive.

Inactivated vaccines are not a risk to immunocompromised individuals,

although their efficacy may be substantially reduced. Because patients with

immunodeficiencies may not have an adequate response to immunizing agents,

they may remain susceptible despite having received an appropriate vaccine.

If feasible, specific serum antibody titers or other immunologic responses

may be determined after immunization to assess immunity.3 Chemoprophylaxis

may be indicated for high-risk persons who are expected to have a poor

antibody response to influenza vaccine.1

PRECAUTIONS:

General

Influenza virus is remarkably capricious antigenically, and significant

changes may occur from time to time. It is known definitely that influenza

vaccine, as now constituted, is not effective against all possible strains

of influenza virus. Protection is afforded most people only against those

strains of virus from which the vaccine is prepared or against closely

related strains .

Influenza vaccine often contains one or more antigens used in previous

years. However, immunity declines during the year following immunization.

Therefore, revaccination on a yearly basis is necessary to provide optimal

protection for the current season. REMAINING VACCINE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR

SHOULD NOT BE USED.

Epinephrine injection (1:1000) must be immediately available should an

acute anaphylactoid reaction occur due to any component of the vaccine.

A separate sterile syringe and needle should be used for each patient to

prevent transmission of hepatitis B virus or other infectious agents from

one person to another. Reusable glass syringes and needles should be

heat-sterilized.

Pregnancy Category C

Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with influenza virus

vaccine. It is also not known whether influenza virus vaccine can cause

fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction

capacity. Influenza virus vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only

if clearly needed. (See INDICATIONS AND USAGE).

DRUG INTERACTIONS:

There have been conflicting reports4-13 on the effects of influenza virus

vaccine on the elimination of some drugs metabolized by the hepatic

cytochrome P-450 system. Hypoprothrombinemia in patients receiving warfarin

and elevated theophylline serum concentrations have occurred. Most studies

have failed to show any adverse effects of influenza vaccine in patients

receiving these drugs. Nevertheless, observation for possible enhanced drug

effect or toxicity is indicated for those persons taking theophylline

preparations or warfarin sodium.

Individuals receiving therapy with immunosuppressive agents (large amounts

of corticosteroids, antimetabolites, alkylating agents, cytotoxic agents)

may not respond optimally to active immunization procedures. (See

WARNINGS.)

ADVERSE REACTIONS:

Side effects of influenza vaccine are generally inconsequential in adults

and occur at low frequency, but at younger ages side effects may be more

common.

BECAUSE INFLUENZA VACCINE CONTAINS ONLY NONINFECTIOUS VIRUSES, IT CANNOT

CAUSE INFLUENZA. Occasional cases of respiratory disease following

vaccination represent coincidental illnesses unrelated to influenza

vaccination.

The most frequent side effect of vaccination is soreness around the

vaccination site for up to 2 days; this occurs in less than one-third of

vaccinees.

In addition, the following three types of systemic reactions have occurred:

1. Fever, malaise, myalgia, and other systemic symptoms occur

infrequently and most often affect persons who have had no exposure to

the influenza virus antigens in the vaccine (e.g., young children).

These reactions begin 6 to 12 hours after vaccination and can persist

for 1 or 2 days.

2. Immediate, presumably allergic, reactions such as hives;

angioedema, allergic asthma, or systemic anaphylaxis occur extremely

rarely after influenza vaccination. These reactions probably result

from hypersensitivity to some vaccine component - the majority are

most likely residual egg protein. Although current influenza vaccines

contain only a small quantity of egg protein, this protein may induce

immediate hypersensitivity reactions in persons with severe egg

allergy. Persons who have developed those who have developed hives,

have had swelling of the lips or tongue, or experienced acute

respiratory distress or collapse after eating eggs should consult a

physician for appropriate evaluation to assist in determining whether

vaccination may proceed or should be deferred. Persons with a

documented immunoglobulin E (IgE)-mediated hypersensitivity to eggs,

including those who have experienced occupational asthma or other

allergic responses from occupational exposure to egg protein, may also

be at increased risk for reactions from influenza vaccine, and similar

consultation should be considered. The protocol for influenza

vaccination developed by and Strunk may be considered for

patients who have egg allergies and medical conditions that place them

at increased risk for influenza infection or its complications.15 The

potential exists for hypersensitivity reactions to any vaccine

component. Although exposure to vaccines containing thimerosal can

lead to induction of hypersensitivity, most patients do not develop

reactions to thimerosal administered as a component of vaccines even

when patch or intradermal tests for thimerosal indicate

hypersensitivity. When it has been reported, hypersensitivity to

thimerosal has usually consisted of local delayed type

hypersensitivity reactions.1

3. Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS). This is an uncommon illness

characterized by ascending paralysis which is usually self-limited and

reversible. Though most persons with GBS recover without residual

weakness, approximately 5% of cases are fatal. Before 1976, no

association of GBS with influenza vaccine use was recognized.

Except for the 1976-77 swine influenza vaccine, subsequent vaccines

prepared from other virus strains have not been clearly associated with an

increased frequency of Guillain-Barre syndrome.1, 16-19 Although, in

1990-91, there may have been a small increase in GBS cases in vaccinated

persons 18 to 64 years of age, the epidemiologic features of the possible

association of the 1990-91 vaccine with GBS were not as convincing as those

found with the swine influenza vaccine. It is difficult to make a precise

estimate of risk for a rare condition such as GBS.1 Therefore, candidates

for influenza virus vaccine should be made aware of the possible risks,

including GBS, and the benefits of administration.

Other neurologic disorders, including encephalopathies, not defined as GBS,

have been temporarily associated with influenza vaccination.20

DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION:

Although influenza virus vaccine often contains one or more antigens used

in previous years, immunity declines during the year following vaccination.

Therefore, a history of vaccination in any previous year with a vaccine

containing one or more antigens included in the current vaccine does NOT

preclude the need for revaccination for the 1993-1994 influenza season to

provide optimal protection. REMAINING VACCINE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR SHOULD

NOT BE USED.

Influenza vaccine may be offered to high-risk persons presenting for

routine care or hospitalization beginning in September, but not until new

vaccine is available (see INDICATIONS AND USAGE, Vaccination of Other

Groups for foreign travel, related exceptions). Opportunities to vaccinate

persons at high risk for complications of influenza should not be missed.

In the United States, influenza activity generally peaks between late

December and early March, and high levels of influenza activity

infrequently occur in the contiguous 48 states before December. Therefore,

the optimal time for organized vaccination campaigns for high-risk persons

usually is the period between mid-October and mid-November. In facilities

such as nursing homes it is particularly important to avoid administering

vaccine too far in advance of the influenza season because antibody may

begin to decline within a few months. Such vaccination programs may be

undertaken as soon as current vaccine is available in September or October

if regional influenza activity is expected to begin earlier than normal.

Children less than 9 years of age who have not been vaccinated previously

should receive two doses with at least 1 month between doses to maximize

the chance of a satisfactory antibody response to all three vaccine

antigens. The second dose should be given before December if possible.

Vaccine should continue to be offered to both children and adults up to and

even after influenza virus activity is documented in a community which may

be as late as April in some years.

Parenteral drug products should be inspected visually for particulate

matter and discoloration, whenever solution and container permit.

DO NOT INJECT INTRAVENOUSLY. Injections of FluShield are recommended to be

given intramuscularly. The recommended site is the deltoid muscle for

adults and older children. The preferred site for infants and young

children is the anterolateral aspect of the thigh musculature. Because of

lack of adequate evaluation of other route in high-risk persons, the

preferred route of vaccination is intramuscularly whenever possible. Before

injection, the skin over the site to be injected should be cleansed with a

suitable germicide. After insertion of the needle, aspirate to help avoid

inadvertent injection into a blood vesseL. SeeTABLE 1 for pediatric

dosages.

TABLE 1

AGE GROUP DOSAGE SCHEDULE

9 years and older 0.5 ml (one dose)

3 to 8 years 0.5 ml (1 or 2 doses)*

6 to 35 months 0.25 ml (1 or 2 doses)*

For those under 13 years, only split-virus (subvirion) vaccine is

recommended.

* A single dose is considered sufficient for those under 9 years who have

received at least 1 dose of influenza virus vaccine. With the 2-dose

regimen, allow 4 weeks or more between doses. Both doses are recommended

for maximum protection.

Immunogenicity and reactogenicity of split- and whole-virus vaccines are

similar in adults when used according to the recommended dosage.1

Storage: Store between 2°-8°C (35°-46° F). Potency is destroyed by

freezing; do not use Influenza Virus Vaccine that has been frozen.

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RR-7).

2. ACIP. Pneumococcal polysaccharride vaccine. MMWR 1989: 38: 64- 8, 73-6.

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Diseases, 22nd ed. Elk Grove Village, IL, American Academy of Pediatrics,

1991.

4. KRAMER, P. and McCLAIN, C.: Depression of aminopyrine metabolism by

influenza vaccination. NEJM 305: 1262, 1981.

5. RENTON, K. et al: Decreased elimination of theophylline after influenza

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6. GOLDSTEIN, R. S. et al: Decreased elimination of theophylline after

influenza vaccination. Canadian Med. Assoc. J. 126: 470, 1982.

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influenza vaccination. Canadian Med. Assoc. J. 126: 1375, 1982.

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anticoagulation. Ann. Int. Med. 100: 835-837, 1984.

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associations with influenza vaccination. Ann. Neurol. 9 (Supplement: 31,

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vaccine. New Eng. J. Med. 304: 1557, 1981.

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1979-1980 and 1980-1981. Lack of association with influenza vaccination.

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170, 1980.

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[Guest guest]

Great question- I would love it if someone had a link that documents this!

Amy

flu vaccine

> Is there aluminum in the flu vaccine? Thanks.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wouldn't doubt it... I started calling all pediatricians in the phone book

today hoping for a fight and all of them told me they are not giving the shot

until November. Hmmmm wonder why!!!

[Guest guest]

My recommendation is that if you are very old or have a chronic illness that

makes you susceptible to dying or becoming extremely ill from influenza, get

vaccinated.  Otherwise, take amantadine or rimantadine if you develop the flu

from influenza a, which has worked well for me.  There is no good treatment for

influenza B, but B is rarer

Dr Nass

Did you say get vaccinated? HUH? PLEASE EXPLAIN! You are frightening me!

All the best,

" Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines if any should

be

given to their children "

<A HREF= " http://www.vaccinetruth.org/ " >Vaccine Information</A>

[Guest guest]

At 01:52 AM 11/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>CDC used to recommend flu vaccine for all those over 65 and people with

severe chronic illnesses, ie those who could conceivably die from influenza.

>

>A few years ago they lowered the age recommendation to 50 (I don't know

why) and many younger people routinely get these shots.

>

>In my experience, many patients get sick from the shot for a few days

(they tell you " I got the flu from the flu shot. " )

>

>Rare patients develop autoimmune disorders after these shots (I recently

treated someone who got optic neuritis after flu vaccine) or if they have

something like rheumatoid arthritis, they may experience an acute attack.

>

>My recommendation is that if you are very old or have a chronic illness

that makes you susceptible to dying or becoming extremely ill from

influenza, get vaccinated. Otherwise, take amantadine or rimantadine if

you develop the flu from influenza a, which has worked well for me. There

is no good treatment for influenza B, but B is rarer.

And these are the same people at risk for vaccine damage

If it were me I'd take my chances WITHOUT any vaccine

My opinion after hundreds of letters and emails about vaccine damage from

flu vaccine

and it contains MERCURY

And find a good homeopath ;-)

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[Guest guest]

As always, you're great, Doctor. Thanks.

> CDC used to recommend flu vaccine for all those over 65 and people with severe

> chronic illnesses, ie those who could conceivably die from influenza.

>

> A few years ago they lowered the age recommendation to 50 (I don't know why)

and

> many younger people routinely get these shots.

>

> In my experience, many patients get sick from the shot for a few days (they

tell

> you " I got the flu from the flu shot. " )

>

> Rare patients develop autoimmune disorders after these shots (I recently

treated

> someone who got optic neuritis after flu vaccine) or if they have something

like

> rheumatoid arthritis, they may experience an acute attack.

>

> My recommendation is that if you are very old or have a chronic illness that

> makes you susceptible to dying or becoming extremely ill from influenza, get

> vaccinated. Otherwise, take amantadine or rimantadine if you develop the flu

> from influenza a, which has worked well for me. There is no good treatment

for

> influenza B, but B is rarer.

>

> MN

> Meryl Nass, MD

> H 207 276-5092

> W 207 288-5082 ext 220 or pager 441

> C 207 522-5229

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy:

We were told always to definitely get the flu vaccine for our PID child, and

now for her sibling. I think as long as they are over six months old it's

recommended. Check on that though. And the first time a child ever gets a flu

shot, they recommend getting it twice, at least 30 days apart, to make sure the

antibodies are more likely to form. In fact, we still opt to get her flu

shot twice each year, and she's almost five years old! My non-PID daughter is

14 months and she's getting two flu shots this year. My kids both did fine with

it.

(mom to Kate, born 9/19/02, dairy intolerant; and , age 4-1/2,

GERD, dairy intolerant -- currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously

had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other defs)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/6/03 7:04:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> My mom had the vaccine abt 2 week sago, she subs out at the school.Where

> its spreading like wild fire.Now my daughter has this flu.......Mom still

hasnt

> gotten it...

> I dont have it ither and I had no vaccine.

> So i cant say if I should have gotten the vaccine or not.

> lisa

> ----- Original Message -----

>

I stand by Occillicoxccinum and Echinacea.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/6/03 7:04:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> My mom had the vaccine abt 2 week sago, she subs out at the school.Where

> its spreading like wild fire.Now my daughter has this flu.......Mom still

hasnt

> gotten it...

> I dont have it ither and I had no vaccine.

> So i cant say if I should have gotten the vaccine or not.

> lisa

> ----- Original Message -----

>

I stand by Occillicoxccinum and Echinacea.

[Guest guest]

My mom had the vaccine abt 2 week sago, she subs out at the school.Where its

spreading like wild fire.Now my daughter has this flu.......Mom still hasnt

gotten it...

I dont have it ither and I had no vaccine.

So i cant say if I should have gotten the vaccine or not.

lisa

flu vaccine

What are your thoughts on the flu vaccine this year. .. since the media hype

is on a very fierce flu season this year???

Melinda

[Guest guest]

My mom had the vaccine abt 2 week sago, she subs out at the school.Where its

spreading like wild fire.Now my daughter has this flu.......Mom still hasnt

gotten it...

I dont have it ither and I had no vaccine.

So i cant say if I should have gotten the vaccine or not.

lisa

flu vaccine

What are your thoughts on the flu vaccine this year. .. since the media hype

is on a very fierce flu season this year???

Melinda

[Guest guest]

No, it still contains thimerosal. Flu mist does not....but then, if you get

flu mist you are potentially contagious for 21 days.

Flu vaccine

Excuse my ignorance...I am brain dead right now.

The teachers and therapist at my son's school are saying that the Flu

vaccine on the market today does not contain thimerosal...Is this

correct? I thought the Flu vaccine contained thimerosal.

Thanks,

jak

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[Guest guest]

No, it still contains thimerosal. Flu mist does not....but then, if you get

flu mist you are potentially contagious for 21 days.

Flu vaccine

Excuse my ignorance...I am brain dead right now.

The teachers and therapist at my son's school are saying that the Flu

vaccine on the market today does not contain thimerosal...Is this

correct? I thought the Flu vaccine contained thimerosal.

Thanks,

jak

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child with AUTISM.

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[Guest guest]

No--that is not correct by any stretch of the imagination.

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Flu vaccine

Excuse my ignorance...I am brain dead right now.

The teachers and therapist at my son's school are saying that the Flu

vaccine on the market today does not contain thimerosal...Is this

correct? I thought the Flu vaccine contained thimerosal.

Thanks,

jak

[Guest guest]

No--that is not correct by any stretch of the imagination.

Peacefully,

Jeff Sell

& Sell, L.L.P.

4309 Yoakum Boulevard

2nd Floor

Houston, Texas 77006

713-874-6444

713-874-6445 (fax)

832-731-3145 (cell)

" Of Counsel "

& Associates

3400 Penthouse Suite

One Center

713-654-7799

713-654-7814 (fax)

JZSell@...

www.JZSLAW.com

Flu vaccine

Excuse my ignorance...I am brain dead right now.

The teachers and therapist at my son's school are saying that the Flu

vaccine on the market today does not contain thimerosal...Is this

correct? I thought the Flu vaccine contained thimerosal.

Thanks,

jak

[Guest guest]

At 08:07 AM 12/10/2003 +0800, you wrote:

>Hello everyone

>

>I've just joined the list. I'm a classical homoeopath from Singapore, have

>been practising since 1990.

>

>Like in many countries, a big scare has been created over the fujian flu and

>we've run out of stocks of flu vaccines (which are unrelated to the fujian

>strain but the authorities say they will still afford some protection!??).

>We have a small population of under 4 million and yesterday's papers

>reported that 300,000 people have had the flu shot and many " unlucky " people

>had to be turned away when the clinics/hospitals ran out of the vaccine.

>

>A friend who's not had the flu shot and residing in Europe said something

>very interesting - but not surprising:

>

> " Everyone gets the flu around me, even those that have taken the vaccine.

>Actually, they get the flu inmediately after! "

>

>best,

>Ching Yee

Welcome to the list!

Its great to have another homeopath!!!!!!!!

Yipeeeeeeee

Sheri

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[Guest guest]

where's this? I havent heard of that, nor do I see doctors doing it!

[Guest guest]

where's this? I havent heard of that, nor do I see doctors doing it!

[Guest guest]

Before you can get the flu shot you have to sign a waiver saying you

know the flu shot contains eggs & thimerisol.

Lori

> Excuse my ignorance...I am brain dead right now.

>

> The teachers and therapist at my son's school are saying that the

Flu

> vaccine on the market today does not contain thimerosal...Is this

> correct? I thought the Flu vaccine contained thimerosal.

>

> Thanks,

> jak

[Guest guest]

On 12/10/03 9:30 AM, " jwebs94@... " <jwebs94@...> wrote:

I¹m assuming you are talking about the nasal spray. They are doing it in

the Wal-Mart's here in Colorado. I do not know if they are doing it in

other states.

> where's this? I havent heard of that, nor do I see doctors doing it!

>

>

>