Inflammation

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Suzanne:

SeaBiotics looks like a multi-level marketing company (MLM or network

marketing). The story of the chiropracter seems, to me, to be a

typical MLM story about " miracle healing. "

I'd be cautious of this " friend " (if there is one).

That said... controlling inflammation can, indeed, help control the

pain associated with CP. I take Cod Liver Oil every day in the

winter (Fish Oil in the summer) containing about 2500 mg of Omega-3

fatty-acids (EPA & DHA). I highly recommend that everyone else do

this, or at least investigate it. More and more research is showing

that Omega-3's are very important for contolling inflammation and

boosting overall health. (Usual disclaimer here: I'm not a doctor,

a nutritionist or any sort of health-care practitioner).

If the shark liver oil has some EPA & DHA in it, perhaps there is

some merit to it, but just make sure it is a high-quality product,

tested at an FDA registered lab to be free of mercury, PCBs, etc. and

that it isn't more expensive than it should be. There are a million

places to buy various fish oil products on the web. Don't get drawn

in by any miraculous claims.

HTH,

Doug

dougfromct2002@...

> Do you think that if you were able to take away the ongoing

> inflammation in the knee (or anywhere for that matter) that the

pain

> could go away? I heard of a chiropractor whose legs were about 3

> inchese shorter/longer than each other. Over the years he started

to

> have pains in his back and hips. Then he added lifts in his shoe.

It

> worked for a while, but then new pains arose. One day, a friend

> told him about shark liver oil (deep sea), he decided to try it.

>

> He noticed within a couple of days that there was improvement but

not

> a lot. Frustrated he forgot to put his lift in his shoe, and about

> 24 hours later he realized that he wasn't limping and the pain had

> gone away. I'm wondering then, if he can have such dramatic

effects,

> then there's a very good chance that it would help chondromalacia.

>

> I'm going to try it. If you're interested in looking at the info,

> here's the website: www.seabiotics.com/vos-2

>

> Cross your fingers. I'll let you know about improvements.

>

> Suzanne

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I wanted to reply directly to the person who sent this, but her e-mail address

is disguised. This reads very much like an advertisement. If it's not, will

the sender please reply to me (ruby2zcy@...). I'm one of the list

moderators. If I'm mistaken about it being an advertisement, I apologize.

And for the record, you can't get shark liver oil without killing the shark.

ruby2zdy

Inflammation

Do you think that if you were able to take away the ongoing

inflammation in the knee (or anywhere for that matter) that the pain

could go away? I heard of a chiropractor whose legs were about 3

inchese shorter/longer than each other. Over the years he started to

have pains in his back and hips. Then he added lifts in his shoe. It

worked for a while, but then new pains arose. One day, a friend

told him about shark liver oil (deep sea), he decided to try it.

He noticed within a couple of days that there was improvement but not

a lot. Frustrated he forgot to put his lift in his shoe, and about

24 hours later he realized that he wasn't limping and the pain had

gone away. I'm wondering then, if he can have such dramatic effects,

then there's a very good chance that it would help chondromalacia.

I'm going to try it. If you're interested in looking at the info,

here's the website: www.seabiotics.com/vos-2

Cross your fingers. I'll let you know about improvements.

Suzanne

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Inflammation seems to be getting a lot of buzz with HIV.. Perhaps a larger daily aspirin is indicated? I have always taken a 325 buffered aspirin,. reading that 81mg was not enough to do the trick. Any thoughts?

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First--quick note to R: hurray re the lipid markers improving. Diet and exercise not only are the best basis to start with but just make one feel better! Sometimes we need a little motivation or kick to get started--but creating THAT kind of new habit can be pretty cool. Aspirin (buffered) I think makes sense (except for those with ulcers or who may need to adjust a warfarin/coumadin dose). I was delighted and depressed to read Tim Horn's recent article on aidsmeds. Glad it is being taken more seriously--but some of us have been looking at this aspect of HIV disease (and accelerated senescence) for nigh on 20 years! And the article underscores that the "mainstream" of researchers doesn't seem to get the role of glutathione as part of the process. (I'll never forget an FDA meeting where I was trying to get them to understand that there was more to HIV pathogenesis that suggested an important role for dietary supplements and I mentioned accelerated senescence; one of the FDA guys was totally startled and said "what did you say?"; I was embarrassed cause I didn't know how to pronounce senescence..I still don't....but his reaction still made me say hmm.....this had to be around 1997 or 1998 I think.)The whole issue of oxidative stress suggests a comprehensive approach to me. Yes, vitamin D and fish oil are part of that--but I think so are agents like NAC, alpha lipoic, a good potent multi -- and diet and exercise! It's about balance, comprehensiveness and a vigorous battle to prevent the elevated cytokines (as they note, IL-6, but also several others)...aspirin may address some of this but not all of it. I hope there will be more studies to assess these and the type of drug interventions they noted in the article. M. On Apr 14, 2010, at 2:02 PM, hoppefaith@... wrote:

Inflammation seems to be getting a lot of buzz with HIV.. Perhaps a larger daily aspirin is indicated? I have always taken a 325 buffered aspirin,. reading that 81mg was not enough to do the trick. Any thoughts?

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"Inflammation seems to be getting a lot of buzz with HIV.. Perhaps a larger daily aspirin is indicated? I have always taken a 325 buffered aspirin,. reading that 81mg was not enough to do the trick. Any thoughts?"I don't think that anyone can answer that question. "Inflammation" is a complex response, and while aspirin has an impact on some parts of it, I don't think that anyone can answer at this point if it would have an impact, for how long, and at what dose.I take 81 mg a day, and leave it at that. Aspirin has a big impact on blood clotting, and has other toxicities, as well.JB

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Although I take 81mg of aspirin for cardiac benefits, I'm not sure, one way or

another, that it affects the inflammatory response in a way that will affect HIV

disease.

On the other hand, there are clues that statins may be beneficial for people

with HIV and hepatitis C. I would not avoid them

JB

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I would be curious to know both the science and the

speculation about the role of inflammation in CLL. Is it

suspected as a possible causal influence in the initiation

of CLL, in combination with other factors? Can it drive

progression? If either of these is true or plausible, how

can inflammation be monitored and controlled?