Flu shots

[Guest guest]

So, somebody is worried about people leaving restrooms without

washing their hands. I didn't know you could catch the flu from your

weinee. The main problem seems to be that the major U.S. Drug

companies can not derive enough profit from normal vaccinations.

Even though there is a profit it is not enough to justify making

these really needed medications. What we need to do is jack the

price up to $100.00 a shot then just watch the American

pharmaceuticals rush in to fill the vacumn. They are all just

pathetic money hungry corporations who can never be satisfied with a

little profit, it must always be more, more, more.

S

[Guest guest]

Hi all with this flu shot stuff i havent gotton mine yet either i usually go down to the VA Hospital in Phoenix and get it have never had trouble with getting a shot, they always seem to have it every year. This is for those of us who ae Vets sorry for others not being able to get thiers. You can thank the drug companies for not producing like they should, thers another sample of " out sourcing" to other countries. Also would like to comment on Canadian drugs & our FDA, if the drugs that Canadian's take are safe for them then what the $ & %% they most likely would be safe for us. I would rather go to Canada and get my drugs than go to Mexico. Just had to speak my mine alittle tonight after listening to the debate :-). Peace to All Debra Cruz <her_timid_heart@...> wrote:

an interesting read from tonights msnbc regarding the flu shot problem.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6233062/

Re: Flu shots

Gail... it's the same here in southern NJ... I've been calling my PCP's office for over 3 wks now... they ordered vaccine last year and have yet to get their supply, local clinics are being cancelled left and right, the ACME had 100 shots available yesterday, but you had to be a member of their pharmacutical dept, which we aren't ... to say just wash your hands and stay away from those that are sick doesn't cut if for me... I see far too many persons NOT washing their hands and hear 'em hackin' while I'm out in public... I'm thinking maybe it should be a misdemeanor if you're caught out in public while sick or found leaving a public rest room before washing your hands, right??? ... to live in this country and find ourselves in this situation seems unreal to me... why are there so few companies manufacturing the vaccine??? JES in NJ, USA > Is everyone prepared for the flu season? isn't. No shots to be had in our area. Called the local news station and gave them a piece of my mind (what is left of it). They said there are enough to go around in our area. Funny 's primary did not get any. The hospital said they did not have any. 140 clinics in our area have been canceled. The nurse came today to check on (her weekly) and said to keep an eye on him. He is achy and has a temp. The man upstairs from us has the flu. The woman down the hall is in the hospital with the flu. As I told the reporter I feel this is a form of euthanasia when the ill who qualify for the shot can not get it. Little rough with the words, but after 3 hours of trying to see where we can get the shot I get testy.> > My grandson who has RSVP got lucky. His

doctor had only so many shots to give and he drew names out of a hat. My grandson will get a shot. This is a terrible way to have to deal with things.> > Sorry if I got someone upset - venting helps.> > GailPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi all with this flu shot stuff i havent gotton mine yet either i usually go down to the VA Hospital in Phoenix and get it have never had trouble with getting a shot, they always seem to have it every year. This is for those of us who ae Vets sorry for others not being able to get thiers. You can thank the drug companies for not producing like they should, thers another sample of " out sourcing" to other countries. Also would like to comment on Canadian drugs & our FDA, if the drugs that Canadian's take are safe for them then what the $ & %% they most likely would be safe for us. I would rather go to Canada and get my drugs than go to Mexico. Just had to speak my mine alittle tonight after listening to the debate :-). Peace to All Debra Cruz <her_timid_heart@...> wrote:

an interesting read from tonights msnbc regarding the flu shot problem.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6233062/

Re: Flu shots

Gail... it's the same here in southern NJ... I've been calling my PCP's office for over 3 wks now... they ordered vaccine last year and have yet to get their supply, local clinics are being cancelled left and right, the ACME had 100 shots available yesterday, but you had to be a member of their pharmacutical dept, which we aren't ... to say just wash your hands and stay away from those that are sick doesn't cut if for me... I see far too many persons NOT washing their hands and hear 'em hackin' while I'm out in public... I'm thinking maybe it should be a misdemeanor if you're caught out in public while sick or found leaving a public rest room before washing your hands, right??? ... to live in this country and find ourselves in this situation seems unreal to me... why are there so few companies manufacturing the vaccine??? JES in NJ, USA > Is everyone prepared for the flu season? isn't. No shots to be had in our area. Called the local news station and gave them a piece of my mind (what is left of it). They said there are enough to go around in our area. Funny 's primary did not get any. The hospital said they did not have any. 140 clinics in our area have been canceled. The nurse came today to check on (her weekly) and said to keep an eye on him. He is achy and has a temp. The man upstairs from us has the flu. The woman down the hall is in the hospital with the flu. As I told the reporter I feel this is a form of euthanasia when the ill who qualify for the shot can not get it. Little rough with the words, but after 3 hours of trying to see where we can get the shot I get testy.> > My grandson who has RSVP got lucky. His

doctor had only so many shots to give and he drew names out of a hat. My grandson will get a shot. This is a terrible way to have to deal with things.> > Sorry if I got someone upset - venting helps.> > GailPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

You know, I was just sitting here wondering why we don't produce our

own flu vacs.

Guess you answered that question!

Bridget

>

> So, somebody is worried about people leaving restrooms without

> washing their hands. I didn't know you could catch the flu from

your

> weinee. The main problem seems to be that the major U.S. Drug

> companies can not derive enough profit from normal vaccinations.

> Even though there is a profit it is not enough to justify making

> these really needed medications. What we need to do is jack the

> price up to $100.00 a shot then just watch the American

> pharmaceuticals rush in to fill the vacumn. They are all just

> pathetic money hungry corporations who can never be satisfied with

a

> little profit, it must always be more, more, more.

>

> S

[Guest guest]

... the point of my comment about leaving a restroom w/out

washing hands was to show that if people have such poor hygiene

habits they're not gonna' wash their hands just because they coughed

or sneezed in 'em, that's for sure!!!

JES in NJ w/no source for a flu shot... doctor's offices have

informed me they won't have vaccine this year and I should be seeking

it from other sources... our county has none on hand and the next

county over is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

card and proof of residency w/in county

>

> So, somebody is worried about people leaving restrooms without

> washing their hands. I didn't know you could catch the flu from

your

> weinee. >

> S

[Guest guest]

is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

> card and proof of residency w/in county

See, now this ticks me off.

My mother at age 73 is less at risk from flu than I am at 40. She

has no chronic lung or heart problems. Me, I have asthma, a

repaired mitral valve and an ef of around 30%. Now, dispite the fact

that I'm not allowed a flu shot because I've had Guillaumme-Barre in

the past, which of us, mom or me, should qualify???

AGE is not the only factor in this. Just like it isn't the only

factor in prescription drug prices. Nothing ticks me off more than

hearing a politician say how they are helping the seniors with their

prescriptions. What about the rest of us????

Bridget

[Guest guest]

BRIDGET, here is the criteria for getting a flu shot, check out #3.

Earlier I posted a web site where you put in your zip code, and

it gave you a location where you could get the shot.

Here it is again (I found 2 nearby)

http://www.findaflushot.com/lungusa/

Are 65 years old or older. Pneumonia

and Influenza are the fifth leading cause of death for people over 65.

Only about 69% of Americans 65 years and older receive the flu shot

annually. These people should also get the pneumonia vaccine. Unlike

the flu shot, this is a once in a lifetime shot and can be given at the

same time as a flu shot. Medicare pays for both flu and pneumonia

vaccines for people over 65.

Are a resident of a

nursing home or other chronic-care facility that houses people of any

age who have chronic medical conditions.

Have

chronic disorders of the pulmonary or cardiovascular systems, including

asthma. Asthma is not exacerbated by the injection of the influenza

vaccine according to an American Lung Association study. (N Engl J Med

2001; 345:1529-36.) However, only 10% of children with asthma and 39%

of adults with asthma get the flu annually.

Have

required regular medical follow-up or hospitalization during the

preceding year because of chronic metabolic diseases (diabetes),

anemia, kidney disease, or immunosuppression (HIV).

Are

a child and or adolescent (6 months to 18 years old who is receiving

long-term aspirin therapy and, therefore, might be at risk for

experiencing Reye syndrome after influenza infection.

Are a woman who will be pregnant during the influenza season.

Are a child aged 6-23 months.

Are between the ages of 50-64 years.

Can

transmit influenza to those at high risk such as health care

professionals, employees of nursing homes and other chronic care

facilities, providers of home care, household contacts (including

children) of high-risk persons and out-of-home caregivers of children

0-23 months.

Bridget wrote:

is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

> card and proof of residency w/in county

See, now this ticks me off.

My mother at age 73 is less at risk from flu than I am at 40. She

has no chronic lung or heart problems. Me, I have asthma, a

repaired mitral valve and an ef of around 30%. Now, dispite the fact

that I'm not allowed a flu shot because I've had Guillaumme-Barre in

the past, which of us, mom or me, should qualify???

AGE is not the only factor in this. Just like it isn't the only

factor in prescription drug prices. Nothing ticks me off more than

hearing a politician say how they are helping the seniors with their

prescriptions. What about the rest of us????

Bridget

Please visit the Zapper homepage at

http://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

I know. If I hadn't had Guillaume-Barre, I would have gotten one two

years ago. But this year, it seems that many places are limiting who

gets them to ONLY those over 65.

Bridget

> > is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

> > > card and proof of residency w/in county

> >

> >

> > See, now this ticks me off.

> >

> > My mother at age 73 is less at risk from flu than I am at 40. She

> > has no chronic lung or heart problems. Me, I have asthma, a

> > repaired mitral valve and an ef of around 30%. Now, dispite the

fact

> > that I'm not allowed a flu shot because I've had Guillaumme-Barre

in

> > the past, which of us, mom or me, should qualify???

> >

> > AGE is not the only factor in this. Just like it isn't the only

> > factor in prescription drug prices. Nothing ticks me off more

than

> > hearing a politician say how they are helping the seniors with

their

> > prescriptions. What about the rest of us????

> >

> > Bridget

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > http://www.ZapLife.org

> >

> >

> > *

[Guest guest]

I like this one. I think next month I will get pregnant (not). Dave is 63, has CHF, COPD, SCD, TIA's to name a few. If I tell them at the clinic that I may get pregnant next month can I get a flu shot? Oh well maybe not so can you give the shot to someone who "really" needs it. Give me a break! After 3 days of making phone calls will get a shot. But only because Electric Boat gave all their vacines to the local VNA. Then I called the VNA and they said "oh ya, he is homebound so he can have a shot".

Please excuse sick sence of humor, tired from trying to find hubby shot and sick myself right now. Hope it isn't the flu. It is going around the building...

Gail

http://www.findaflushot.com/lungusa/ * Are a woman who will be pregnant during the influenza season.

[Guest guest]

Anyone who is in bad health is allowed to get the flu shot, regardless

of age. Our Doctor told us that today was the last day he would be able

to give the shots, due to the shortage.

I know. If I hadn't had Guillaume-Barre, I would have gotten one two

years ago. But this year, it seems that many places are limiting who

gets them to ONLY those over 65.

Bridget

> > is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

> > > card and proof of residency w/in county

> >

> >

> > See, now this ticks me off.

> >

> > My mother at age 73 is less at risk from flu than I am at 40. She

> > has no chronic lung or heart problems. Me, I have asthma, a

> > repaired mitral valve and an ef of around 30%. Now, dispite the

fact

> > that I'm not allowed a flu shot because I've had Guillaumme-Barre

in

> > the past, which of us, mom or me, should qualify???

> >

> > AGE is not the only factor in this. Just like it isn't the only

> > factor in prescription drug prices. Nothing ticks me off more

than

> > hearing a politician say how they are helping the seniors with

their

> > prescriptions. What about the rest of us????

> >

> > Bridget

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > http://www.ZapLife.org

> >

> >

> > *

[Guest guest]

You are entitled to get the shot due to your health, regardless of your

age!

is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

> card and proof of residency w/in county

See, now this ticks me off.

My mother at age 73 is less at risk from flu than I am at 40. She

has no chronic lung or heart problems. Me, I have asthma, a

repaired mitral valve and an ef of around 30%. Now, dispite the fact

that I'm not allowed a flu shot because I've had Guillaumme-Barre in

the past, which of us, mom or me, should qualify???

AGE is not the only factor in this. Just like it isn't the only

factor in prescription drug prices. Nothing ticks me off more than

hearing a politician say how they are helping the seniors with their

prescriptions. What about the rest of us????

Bridget

Please visit the Zapper homepage at

http://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

That is revolting isn't it

Anne

[Guest guest]

JES said, " our county has none on hand and the next

county over is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

card and proof of residency w/in county "

That is what my comments were regarding. Yes, if there were loads of

vacs floating around someone my age could get one. But some plces

are limiting by age because of the shortage, a practice I believe to

be absurd.

Bridget

> > > is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

> > > > card and proof of residency w/in county

> > >

> > >

> > > See, now this ticks me off.

> > >

> > > My mother at age 73 is less at risk from flu than I am at 40.

She

> > > has no chronic lung or heart problems. Me, I have asthma, a

> > > repaired mitral valve and an ef of around 30%. Now, dispite

the

> fact

> > > that I'm not allowed a flu shot because I've had Guillaumme-

Barre

> in

> > > the past, which of us, mom or me, should qualify???

> > >

> > > AGE is not the only factor in this. Just like it isn't the only

> > > factor in prescription drug prices. Nothing ticks me off more

> than

> > > hearing a politician say how they are helping the seniors with

> their

> > > prescriptions. What about the rest of us????

> > >

> > > Bridget

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > > http://www.ZapLife.org

> > >

> > >

> > > *

[Guest guest]

if anyone doubts the truth in my previous post feel free to contact

the board of health in Atlantic County, NJ USA... they recieved about

1/2 the vaccine they had ordered and are sticking strickly to their

guidelines of being 65 or over, medicare card and proof of residency,

period... no exceptions will be made!

on a bright note, after 3 wks of searching and being told on Tues my

PCP nor my husband's oncologist, or our cardio will have any vaccine,

I found one ACME supermarket about 20 miles away w/40 doses... we set

the alarm for 4AM, were out of house by 5 and arrived at location at

5:30AM to recieve #10 & 11 as if we were waiting to be served by the

deli dept. ... after which we stood around for another 4 1/2 hrs and

got our shots ... as it turned out, they had 150 shots to be given

w/only restiction that you meet the high-risk requirements... I hope

others are as fortunate as we were... this was our last chance as the

only 3 remaining clinics anywhere to be found in this area are those

run by the Atlantic Co. health dept and we don't meet any of their

requirements

on another bright note, many of the private businesses in our area

are also turning over their vaccine that was to be used for their

employees to the county to be dispensed as needed... there are many

good folks out there... you just have to know where to look to see

the roses amongst the thorns

JES in Cape May Co., NJ, USA

>

>

> JES said, " our county has none on hand and the next

> county over is limiting their 2800 shots to those over 65 w/medicare

> card and proof of residency w/in county "

>

> That is what my comments were regarding. Yes, if there were loads

of

> vacs floating around someone my age could get one. But some plces

> are limiting by age because of the shortage, a practice I believe

to

> be absurd.

>

> Bridget

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh my goodness! That is terrible!

-- Flu shots

Hello

Yesterday, I went to one of the few Krogers that had not cancelled their

flu-shot campaign and the line was through half the store. It took

about 2.5 to 3.5 hours to get a shot. Fortunately they served cookies,

cakes orange juice and water to the people in line otherwise I'm sure

plenty of people would've just fainted from low sugar levels. They

also told us that in Lousiana, one of their stores only had 250 shots

available but 2,000 people showed up so there was a riot and the police

were called in.

It's pretty sad that the best way to get shots is via these commercial

flu-shot campaigns, the Doctor's never seem to have enough or they get

their shipments much later than the big companies. Almost all the

flu-shot campaigns here have been canceled but the corporate websites

haven't been updated to reflect which, the best website to find shots

seem to be www.findaflushot.com which is the American Lung Association,

that's where I found out about the Krogers I went to yesterday even

though it's about 10 miles away, the next closest would be today at

about 15 miles away, after that the next is over 25 miles away. The

shots are few and far between here in Texas.

Regards,

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Oh my goodness! That is terrible!

-- Flu shots

Hello

Yesterday, I went to one of the few Krogers that had not cancelled their

flu-shot campaign and the line was through half the store. It took

about 2.5 to 3.5 hours to get a shot. Fortunately they served cookies,

cakes orange juice and water to the people in line otherwise I'm sure

plenty of people would've just fainted from low sugar levels. They

also told us that in Lousiana, one of their stores only had 250 shots

available but 2,000 people showed up so there was a riot and the police

were called in.

It's pretty sad that the best way to get shots is via these commercial

flu-shot campaigns, the Doctor's never seem to have enough or they get

their shipments much later than the big companies. Almost all the

flu-shot campaigns here have been canceled but the corporate websites

haven't been updated to reflect which, the best website to find shots

seem to be www.findaflushot.com which is the American Lung Association,

that's where I found out about the Krogers I went to yesterday even

though it's about 10 miles away, the next closest would be today at

about 15 miles away, after that the next is over 25 miles away. The

shots are few and far between here in Texas.

Regards,

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There was an 84 year old lady here waiting in line for five hours to get her shot, she fell from exhaustion, hit her head, and died.

Flu shots

Hello

Yesterday, I went to one of the few Krogers that had not cancelled their

flu-shot campaign and the line was through half the store. It took

about 2.5 to 3.5 hours to get a shot. Fortunately they served cookies,

cakes orange juice and water to the people in line otherwise I'm sure

plenty of people would've just fainted from low sugar levels. They

also told us that in Lousiana, one of their stores only had 250 shots

available but 2,000 people showed up so there was a riot and the police

were called in.

It's pretty sad that the best way to get shots is via these commercial

flu-shot campaigns, the Doctor's never seem to have enough or they get

their shipments much later than the big companies. Almost all the

flu-shot campaigns here have been canceled but the corporate websites

haven't been updated to reflect which, the best website to find shots

seem to be www.findaflushot.com which is the American Lung Association,

that's where I found out about the Krogers I went to yesterday even

though it's about 10 miles away, the next closest would be today at

about 15 miles away, after that the next is over 25 miles away. The

shots are few and far between here in Texas.

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[Guest guest]

There was an 84 year old lady here waiting in line for five hours to get her shot, she fell from exhaustion, hit her head, and died.

Flu shots

Hello

Yesterday, I went to one of the few Krogers that had not cancelled their

flu-shot campaign and the line was through half the store. It took

about 2.5 to 3.5 hours to get a shot. Fortunately they served cookies,

cakes orange juice and water to the people in line otherwise I'm sure

plenty of people would've just fainted from low sugar levels. They

also told us that in Lousiana, one of their stores only had 250 shots

available but 2,000 people showed up so there was a riot and the police

were called in.

It's pretty sad that the best way to get shots is via these commercial

flu-shot campaigns, the Doctor's never seem to have enough or they get

their shipments much later than the big companies. Almost all the

flu-shot campaigns here have been canceled but the corporate websites

haven't been updated to reflect which, the best website to find shots

seem to be www.findaflushot.com which is the American Lung Association,

that's where I found out about the Krogers I went to yesterday even

though it's about 10 miles away, the next closest would be today at

about 15 miles away, after that the next is over 25 miles away. The

shots are few and far between here in Texas.

Regards,

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[Guest guest]

Hank, I'd like to think there is a way of controlling all the

contaminated vaccine by using lot numbers or something similar ...

not to do so makes no sense to me ... I have heard that some doctor's

offices had to send their vaccine back as it was part of the

contaminated batches ... seems to me this article goes a bit over

board and suggests that there aren't ways of tracing the contaminated

batches... I feel quite safe in assuming there is and the CDC and/or

FDA are on the case.

JES in NJ

> I don't know if there is any truth to this, but here it is.....

> Check it out.. They claim that the bad vaccine is already out.......

>

> http://www.rense.com/general58/dangerouschironfluvaccine.htm

[Guest guest]

I am not as confident as you in the CDC and particularly in the FDA.

Keep in mind that it is our government that permitted cows infected

with bovine spongiform encephalopathy into our country through

inadequate USDA testing and no means of tracking.

On Oct 17, 2004, at 4:36 PM, JES wrote:

>

>

> Hank, I'd like to think there is a way of controlling all the

> contaminated vaccine by using lot numbers or something similar ...

> not to do so makes no sense to me ... I have heard that some doctor's

> offices had to send their vaccine back as it was part of the

> contaminated batches ... seems to me this article goes a bit over

> board and suggests that there aren't ways of tracing the contaminated

> batches... I feel quite safe in assuming there is and the CDC and/or

> FDA are on the case.

>

> JES in NJ

>

>

>> I don't know if there is any truth to this, but here it is.....

>> Check it out.. They claim that the bad vaccine is already out.......

>>

>> http://www.rense.com/general58/dangerouschironfluvaccine.htm

>

>

>

>

>

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> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

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[Guest guest]

You want to be really frightened about what come into this

country . . . only 3% of all plants entering the US are inspected for

diseases and insects or even just looked at to make sure they really

are plants.

Bridget

> I am not as confident as you in the CDC and particularly in the

FDA.

> Keep in mind that it is our government that permitted cows infected

> with bovine spongiform encephalopathy into our country through

> inadequate USDA testing and no means of tracking.

[Guest guest]

Aparently there are plenty of them now.

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: Llinda [mailto:2llama@...] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:30 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: flu shots

I asked and was told there was none. Bummer.

Llinda

Didn't you ladies get your flu shots? We do fall into the recommended group - I got mine in October & have been fine all winter.

Suzie

[Guest guest]

I think she was directing it to me & Llinda who aren't feeling well. Did you get your flu shot, Danny?

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: captdanny [mailto:captdankw@...] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:55 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Re: flu shots

There are guys that use this site also or was that a slam?Didn't you ladies get your flu shotsLlinda <2llama@...> wrote:

[Guest guest]

Yes Sir there are men in this group!! We women just post more..Kathy B

Re: Re: flu shots

There are guys that use this site also or was that a slam?Didn't you ladies get your flu shotsLlinda <2llama@...> wrote:

[Guest guest]

Gail over the years Bruce and I have worked out a method for traveling..Very simple he drives and I read the map then plot course of travel.. That way no hassles..He would ask for directions if needed..Has given up on me asking, I won't..Plus I just love maps don't know why..Hey how did you all get off the course you where going?? I thought this was a confab concerning flu shots!!Kathy B..

RE: Re: flu shots

I find that strange in men.My husband won't ask for directions and I would rather stop at the nearest garage and ask then spend a fortune on gas trying to find it.It doesn't make sense to me.

Gail

http://deveauxkennels.tk

mailto:gaila@...

-----Original Message-----From: captdanny [mailto:captdankw@...]Sent: January 31, 2005 9:47 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Re: flu shots

Gail, I seem to lck that male hormone that prevents me from opening up. It's probably the same hormone that prevents some guys from asking directions, something I do all the time. Visual aids help but physical prompts are better. lol

Rock-on

dannyGail Deveaux <gaila@...> wrote:

Actually I find the men in the groups I belong to here and other hep c groups are pretty good.I think in some ways this illness helps the men open up more then they normally would.Theres not really any difference on how we all feel.Women may be a little more outspoken.

Gail

http://deveauxkennels.tk

mailto:gaila@...

-----Original Message-----From: captdanny [mailto:captdankw@...]Sent: January 31, 2005 3:39 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Re: flu shots

Susie,

Maybe I was just in bitchy mood also.

It happens to guys also. No need to defend yourself, just realize that some guys belong to this group and even though we're outnumbered maybe we're the advance party of men that aren't afraid to show their feelings.

rock-on

dannysuzie <suzieandsandy@...> wrote:

Danny,

It wasn't a private conversation - right there in front of the whole group. We were just bitching & whining about being sick, so I decided to check out flu shots since there was that big kerfluffle last Sept about the U S not having enuff.

Butt in anytime Cap'n we love to hear from you.

Suzie & Spyke captdanny <captdankw@...> wrote:

Yes I did< was at the VA the first day they were offered, got mine and that night was when it was announced that there was a shortage of them.

I was just hanging around waiting for the eye surgeon to discharge me so I got one. Which was a good move as last year Liz tore me a new A****** for not getting one.

Suzie, I'm sorry for my remark, I did not realize it was a private conversation.

Kathy, I realize that the women post more, but you gals vastly outnumber the guys.At least we try to keep up.

Rock-on

danny

Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

I think she was directing it to me & Llinda who aren't feeling well. Did you get your flu shot, Danny?

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: captdanny [mailto:captdankw@...] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:55 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Re: flu shots

There are guys that use this site also or was that a slam?Didn't you ladies get your flu shotsLlinda <2llama@...> wrote: