Flu shots

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Gail over the years Bruce and I have worked out a method for traveling..Very simple he drives and I read the map then plot course of travel.. That way no hassles..He would ask for directions if needed..Has given up on me asking, I won't..Plus I just love maps don't know why..Hey how did you all get off the course you where going?? I thought this was a confab concerning flu shots!!Kathy B..

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I find that strange in men.My husband won't ask for directions and I would rather stop at the nearest garage and ask then spend a fortune on gas trying to find it.It doesn't make sense to me.

Gail

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-----Original Message-----From: captdanny [mailto:captdankw@...]Sent: January 31, 2005 9:47 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Re: flu shots

Gail, I seem to lck that male hormone that prevents me from opening up. It's probably the same hormone that prevents some guys from asking directions, something I do all the time. Visual aids help but physical prompts are better. lol

Rock-on

dannyGail Deveaux <gaila@...> wrote:

Actually I find the men in the groups I belong to here and other hep c groups are pretty good.I think in some ways this illness helps the men open up more then they normally would.Theres not really any difference on how we all feel.Women may be a little more outspoken.

Gail

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-----Original Message-----From: captdanny [mailto:captdankw@...]Sent: January 31, 2005 3:39 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Re: flu shots

Susie,

Maybe I was just in bitchy mood also.

It happens to guys also. No need to defend yourself, just realize that some guys belong to this group and even though we're outnumbered maybe we're the advance party of men that aren't afraid to show their feelings.

rock-on

dannysuzie <suzieandsandy@...> wrote:

Danny,

It wasn't a private conversation - right there in front of the whole group. We were just bitching & whining about being sick, so I decided to check out flu shots since there was that big kerfluffle last Sept about the U S not having enuff.

Butt in anytime Cap'n we love to hear from you.

Suzie & Spyke captdanny <captdankw@...> wrote:

Yes I did< was at the VA the first day they were offered, got mine and that night was when it was announced that there was a shortage of them.

I was just hanging around waiting for the eye surgeon to discharge me so I got one. Which was a good move as last year Liz tore me a new A****** for not getting one.

Suzie, I'm sorry for my remark, I did not realize it was a private conversation.

Kathy, I realize that the women post more, but you gals vastly outnumber the guys.At least we try to keep up.

Rock-on

danny

Motley <dmotley@...> wrote:

I think she was directing it to me & Llinda who aren't feeling well. Did you get your flu shot, Danny?

De

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-----Original Message-----From: captdanny [mailto:captdankw@...] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:55 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Re: flu shots

There are guys that use this site also or was that a slam?Didn't you ladies get your flu shotsLlinda <2llama@...> wrote:

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Is there any news yet on whether or not there will be a Flu shot shortage for

some reason?

Reason I ask is that Kate (non-PID) has her 3 yr physical next week, and if

there is a shortage later, she will not be eligible. Stinks that they give

priority to siblings of infants but not to siblings of chronically ill children

--

I tend to think of having the immune system of an 18 month old.

My thought was, if there is going to be a shortage later, go ahead and get

the flu shot for Kate now. Normally wouldn't want to be quite that early? But it

would be better than not getting it at all. 'Course, it is getting pretty

close to October, and isn't October the ideal time to vaccinate to give time for

the abs to develop before the season gets rolling, yet late enough it won't

wear off before the season ends?

THANKS!!!

(mom to , age 6-1/2, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- currently

has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell &

other defs... and also to Kate, age 3!, more dairy intolerant but very healthy!)

[Guest guest]

Is there any news yet on whether or not there will be a Flu shot shortage for

some reason?

Reason I ask is that Kate (non-PID) has her 3 yr physical next week, and if

there is a shortage later, she will not be eligible. Stinks that they give

priority to siblings of infants but not to siblings of chronically ill children

--

I tend to think of having the immune system of an 18 month old.

My thought was, if there is going to be a shortage later, go ahead and get

the flu shot for Kate now. Normally wouldn't want to be quite that early? But it

would be better than not getting it at all. 'Course, it is getting pretty

close to October, and isn't October the ideal time to vaccinate to give time for

the abs to develop before the season gets rolling, yet late enough it won't

wear off before the season ends?

THANKS!!!

(mom to , age 6-1/2, dairy intolerant-related GERD -- currently

has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA, t-cell &

other defs... and also to Kate, age 3!, more dairy intolerant but very healthy!)

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In a message dated 9/22/2005 2:35:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

bunneegirl@... writes:

My thought was, if there is going to be a shortage later, go ahead and get

the flu shot for Kate now. Normally wouldn't want to be quite that early?

--

Our Ped's office told me that the authorities have not decided whether or

not to send all of the flu vaccine to the hurricane victims. If they decide

against it, there should not be a shortage.

Sandi, Mom to , age 12--CVID, Tetrology of Fallot, Pulmonary Valve

transplant (2003), allergies (including meds), asthma, GERD, Carnitine

deficiency--also an aspiring Doctor and Director!

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In a message dated 9/22/2005 2:35:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

bunneegirl@... writes:

My thought was, if there is going to be a shortage later, go ahead and get

the flu shot for Kate now. Normally wouldn't want to be quite that early?

--

Our Ped's office told me that the authorities have not decided whether or

not to send all of the flu vaccine to the hurricane victims. If they decide

against it, there should not be a shortage.

Sandi, Mom to , age 12--CVID, Tetrology of Fallot, Pulmonary Valve

transplant (2003), allergies (including meds), asthma, GERD, Carnitine

deficiency--also an aspiring Doctor and Director!

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HI EVERYONE,

I get a shot every year and I have had mine too. I hear what people think about getting the getting the flue when they get a shot but I don't either. I have gotten one for about 14 yrs or more and it has never affected me.

Thanks,

BRAT I-Chung Wang <jwang@...> wrote:

HelloSince Flu season has started. I'm wondering whose had their shots already...Vulnerable people like ourselves are supposed to get vaccinated as soon as possible and everyone else start on Oct. 24. Typically most people that I know take a rather pessimistic view on flu shots but I still try to encourage people around me to get the shots as that way they won't bring the flu to me, better to have the flu being fought off by their defense systems than mine. Especially people at the office with school age children. It's a difficult sell because most people think of the flu shots as being to immunize themselves and since they are not worried about the flu, they don't think they need the shot, but what they need to realize is that if they are not immunized, they can be bringing the flu to others who are more

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I agree , there are many I know who will not get a shoot, they say they never had flu and never had a shot.

I retort that there is nothing so vicious as flu if you ever get it.You don't know wwhat it feels like

I get mine on Sat.if I cannot make that day there are two more clinics, next Sat and

Nov 5th

Anne

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Hi. I have my rheumy apt. next Monday..he usually gives me the flu shot. I hope he will this time because I have broken out in hives on my face and am running a low grade fever. So far, I have managed to avoid the flu for quite a few years. Don't know if its 'cause of the shots or not, but hey, the way I look at it, it can't hurt. SueH

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I honestly can't say whether or not I've had the flu; I don't know the difference between that and a cold; however, I have gotten the flu vaccine the last two years, and never got so much as a cold, which is very unusual for me. Seeing as I had pneumonia this summer, I'm definately planning on getting the vaccine again this year. My " shot " is always done through a nasal spray because most of the flu vaccines given by shot contain latex proteins, to which I am allergic.

BTW, wish me luck this weekend. I went to an allergist about a month ago, hoping to get allergy testing, but you are supposed to avoid anti-histimines like Benadryl and Claritin for a week before allergy testing, which I didn't know, so I made an appointment for a week later. I lasted four days without taking any Benadryl, but then broke down and took some because my allergy/sinus headaches were no longer being helped by Vicodin. So it was to be postponed until this last Monday. Unfortunately, I ended up in the ER due to severe cramping, headaches, nausea and vomiting related to my period. At one point I became extremely anxious, and was given Benadryl for the anxiety. Had I known it was Benadryl before they gave it to me (through an IV), I would have said something, but I didn't get the chance. So, the allergy testing has been postponed until this coming Monday. So far, I have been able to avoid taking Benadryl, despite the fact that Vicodin is not entirely helping my allergy/sinus headaches, it's at least doing well enough. Weekends (Saturday and Sunday) are always the worst though, in relation to my allergy attacks, as that's when and I do most of our socializing. We're planning on having a quiet weekend, but I'm still worried; so wish me luck!

On 10/13/05, Sue Halperson <sue_halperson@...> wrote:

Hi. I have my rheumy apt. next Monday..he usually gives me the flu shot. I hope he will this time because I have broken out in hives on my face and am running a low grade fever. So far, I have managed to avoid the flu for quite a few years. Don't know if its 'cause of the shots or not, but hey, the way I look at it, it can't hurt. SueH

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Hi guys.. I sent my hep nurse an email and asked her. She replied:

" It is a good idea to get it. It's up to you though. "

Now THAT really cleared things up! Silvia??

>

> Hi david

> THIS is exactly WHY this forum is so necessary! Too many docs

giving out differing opinions.. and some of em have to be wrong.. I

know my doc advised that all his hep patients get the flu shot and the

pneumonia one as well if they hadnt had it , I think that one lasts

10 years or something like that..

> Well lets see what silvia has to say, and janet too, she is a nurse

as well..BELIEVE ME, you wouldnt want to get the flu on top of tx,,,

> jax

>

>

> Jackie

>

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My hepatologist makes getting yearly flu and pnuemonia shots mandatory for his patients .

flu shots

Hi david

THIS is exactly WHY this forum is so necessary! Too many docs giving out differing opinions.. and some of em have to be wrong.. I know my doc advised that all his hep patients get the flu shot and the pneumonia one as well if they hadnt had it , I think that one lasts 10 years or something like that..

Well lets see what silvia has to say, and janet too, she is a nurse as well..BELIEVE ME, you wouldnt want to get the flu on top of tx,,,

jaxJackie

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Well I got mine today so you know what I think... What Jane said

about the " Flu Mist " shot is so thru though. It has 'live' virus

in it that could be very dangerous to anyone with a compromised

immune system. and thats all of us. So go grin and bare

it..(your arm) ric

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On 10/18/05, elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

My hepatologist makes getting yearly flu and pnuemonia shots mandatory for his patients .

Yeah, but I think the specific question is " should I have the shot

while on tx " . Mine told me it wouldn't hurt, but wouldn't help

either. Maybe I should just go for it to be safe.

[Guest guest]

, Having had the flu on treatment the last time I did treatment. When I was offered the pneumonia shot and the flu shot I jumped on it like fleas on a dog. Having the flu and being on treatment is the drizzlin pooters. Literally.This treatment took the flu shot and no sign of flu yet. Just the treatment. Me, I am going to do all I can to help this treatment along. LoveJanet> >> > My hepatologist makes getting yearly flu and pnuemonia shots mandatory for> > his patients .> >> > Yeah, but I think the specific question is "should I have the shot while on> tx". Mine told me it wouldn't hurt, but wouldn't help either. Maybe I should> just go for it to be safe.>

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I should have elaborated by saying that it is mandatory for patients especially on treatment . I have had a couple of flu and pnuemonia shots while I was on treatment and lemme tell ya , when my kids came home sick it spread like wild fire . I was the only one in the house that remained healthy so I swear by the shots , they do work .

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On 10/18/05, elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

My hepatologist makes getting yearly flu and pnuemonia shots mandatory for his patients .Yeah, but I think the specific question is "should I have the shot while on tx". Mine told me it wouldn't hurt, but wouldn't help either. Maybe I should just go for it to be safe.

[Guest guest]

Thanks all. I'm going to go for it.

D

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I totally agree with YOU liz,, elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

I should have elaborated by saying that it is mandatory for patients especially on treatment . I have had a couple of flu and pnuemonia shots while I was on treatment and lemme tell ya , when my kids came home sick it spread like wild fire . I was the only one in the house that remained healthy so I swear by the shots , they do work .

Re: flu shots

On 10/18/05, elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote:

My hepatologist makes getting yearly flu and pnuemonia shots mandatory for his patients .Yeah, but I think the specific question is "should I have the shot while on tx". Mine told me it wouldn't hurt, but wouldn't help either. Maybe I should just go for it to be safe.Jackie

[Guest guest]

I don't get a flu shot. I am fortunate to rarely get flu or colds.

they only cover a small number of the flu strains that go around

anyway so I don't worry about myself.

Lee

flu season has started. I'm wondering whose had their shots

> already...

>

> Vulnerable people like ourselves are supposed to get vaccinated

as

> soon as possible and everyone else start on Oct. 24. Typically

most

> people that I know take a rather pessimistic view on flu shots but

I

> still try to encourage people around me to get the shots as that

way

> they won't bring the flu to me, better to have the flu being

fought

> off by their defense systems than mine. Especially people at

the

> office with school age children. It's a difficult sell because

most

> people think of the flu shots as being to immunize themselves and

> since they are not worried about the flu, they don't think they

need

> the shot, but what they need to realize is that if they are not

> immunized, they can be bringing the flu to others who are more

> vulnerable.

>

[Guest guest]

So true about the flu shots, I had flu once a long time ago, it is frightful. A tiny prick in the arm and chances are the vaccine will protect you fully.

The mottos are 'better safe than sorry', especially if one's health is compromised in any way' peoople DIE from this flu,a once a year shot is good insurance

Anne

[Guest guest]

The worst flu I ever had was truly awful... can't say I was frightened as I was too sick... I would remember answering the phone, mumbling something and I was pretty sure I just passed out until the phone rang again cause I could never remember laying back down. The reason I had to answer the phone was because I owned a convenience store and my husband was pitch hitting for me and he hadn't a clue of what he was doing. Luckily my customers where nice and told him the correct prices.

Re: Re: Flu Shots

So true about the flu shots, I had flu once a long time ago, it is frightful. A tiny prick in the arm and chances are the vaccine will protect you fully.The mottos are 'better safe than sorry', especially if one's health is compromised in any way' peoople DIE from this flu,a once a year shot is good insuranceAnne

[Guest guest]

I sort of was in a twilight zone for a few days, and very weak for a week of more after,Anne

[Guest guest]

Hello

Well, it's true that the flu shot only covers three strains of the

flu but if you read the weekly flu reports, the outbreaks are usually

all just one or two strains so it's not as if there's a whole bunch

of strains going around in any one season. Even if they guess

wrong, the flu shots act as a rehearsal for the immune system so it

still helps against flu not covered by the shot.

The issue I have is that everyone thinks about the shot as protecting

themselves and base the decision as to whether or not to get it as if

it was only a personal risk. Under that thinking the public has

accepted this concept of vaccinating the weak and elderly when in

fact there's only so much one can do to boost a weakened immune

system. People should really be thinking of getting the flu shot as

protecting others. It would be far better to boost the healthy

immune systems of all the people around the elderly or weak as it is

better to simply not expose the vulnerable to the disease. I think

that far more people should get the shot and that the argument " I

don't worry about myself. " is not a reasonable argument, what about

the people that you meet in day to day life, unless you're a shut in,

you could carry the virus from point A to point B if you're not

vaccinated.

The vaccinations should be by the number of people you're likely to

interact with, school aged children and University students is a good

first choice as well as care givers. Travellers should be

vaccinated and those involved with the transportation industry

(truckers, bus drivers, pilot, flight attendants etc.) so that

geographical localization is more likely. Then there are those

whose professions involve meeting a lot of people, cashiers, hair

dressers etc.

The special thing about the flu is how communicable the disease is so

the attack should be along the delivery vectors of the virus. Just

like you're best defense against a computer virus is to not open that

attachment from someone you don't know, the best defense against the

flu is to get the shot especially if you think you're healthy enough

to not need it because then you can use your healthy immune system or

good luck to block the flu from getting to the people that you know.

With the current false altriusms of vaccinating the weak and elderly,

millions of vaccines go unused every year since people are only

concerned about their own risks of catching the flu, they don't think

about those they may infect.

Regards,

On Oct 20, 2005, at 8:14 PM, belowskinbeauty wrote:

> I don't get a flu shot. I am fortunate to rarely get flu or colds.

> they only cover a small number of the flu strains that go around

> anyway so I don't worry about myself.

> Lee

> flu season has started. I'm wondering whose had their shots

>

>> already...

>>

>> Vulnerable people like ourselves are supposed to get vaccinated

>>

> as

>

>> soon as possible and everyone else start on Oct. 24. Typically

>>

> most

>

>> people that I know take a rather pessimistic view on flu shots but

>>

> I

>

>> still try to encourage people around me to get the shots as that

>>

> way

>

>> they won't bring the flu to me, better to have the flu being

>>

> fought

>

>> off by their defense systems than mine. Especially people at

>>

> the

>

>> office with school age children. It's a difficult sell because

>>

> most

>

>> people think of the flu shots as being to immunize themselves and

>> since they are not worried about the flu, they don't think they

>>

> need

>

>> the shot, but what they need to realize is that if they are not

>> immunized, they can be bringing the flu to others who are more

>> vulnerable.

>>

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Well said !

Anne

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I disagree about giving flu shots, and not just with folks with compromised health.

Noted: you state the dangers of the vaccine and horrifc stories

However have you ever seen the number of kids and adults protected by this simple shot?

Have you been at the bedside of people who succumbed to flu?

Anne

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There is a lot of mis-information about how helpful the flu vaccine

is. Most studies do not show that it is a widespread help. Those

with a compromised immune system may need the extra protection but

for many it can be an unnecessary insult to the body. It can also

cause complications, which often are not attributed to the vaccine.

It is a personal choice and does not reflect whether the person is

concerned about others.

Lee

> Well, it's true that the flu shot only covers three strains of

the

> flu but if you read the weekly flu reports, the outbreaks are

usually

> all just one or two strains so it's not as if there's a whole

bunch

> of strains going around in any one season. Even if they guess

> wrong, the flu shots act as a rehearsal for the immune system so

it

> still helps against flu not covered by the shot.

>