Re: Blood tests within normal range but could I still have problem with thyroid?

[Guest guest]

Hi Miranda ,

Did your doctor test your T3 as you have'nt posted those results .

I have also put on loads of weight and never felt well,I have since had some T3

added as well as the T4 and I feel much better for it and have even lost just

under a stone , only 4 more to loose , and feel much better in myself I'm not

saying it's a majic cure but it has help with my brain fogs and my TSh is a lot

lower than yours and T4 is on the higher end but that is were I feel best , so

it may be that you meds are still not right , go back to the doctors and ask for

a trial of T3 they may say no but have a try !!

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had joint pain in my ankles and knees and am often constipated.

> I had blood tests done in August and October last year with the following

results:

> TSH = 2.64 then 2.3

> T4 = 10.9 then 12

> Miranda

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[Guest guest]

Miranda,

your TSH is too high, it would be around 1.0 or less. Your free Thyroxine (fT4)

is too low. It should be above the middle of the reference range when you are not

taking any thyroid hormone replacement and in the upper third of the reference

range when you are taking thyroid hormone replacement. When posting any blood/urine/saliva

test results, ALWAYS remember to post the reference range for the particular

tests done, otherwise, we cannot interpret them properly. Lab21 http://www.lab-21.com/healthcare/thyroid.php

or through a 24 hour urine test by Genova

Diagnostics. This is the best test because it shows the amount of thyroid

hormone that has been used by your body, not the level of thyroid hormone that

is in your blood. For the latter test, check out our FILES section, accessible

from the Home Page of this Forum and scroll down to the Folder 'Discounts on

Tests and Supplements' and follow the instructions there. You should also get

tested to see whether you have antibodies to your thyroid.

Do

other members of your family suffer with a thyroid problem or have an

autoimmune disease?

Luv - Sheila

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had joint pain in my ankles and knees and am often constipated.

> I had blood tests done in August and October last year with the following

results:

> TSH = 2.64 then 2.3

> T4 = 10.9 then 12

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[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

Many thanks for your response.

My GP only tested TSH and T4.

Because I said I still felt there might be a problem she did agree to refer me

to an endocrinologist who I saw a couple of weeks ago.

He also said that my previous results looked fine but I asked to have my T3

checked.I'm still waiting for the results of these tests but have been told over

the phone that they're " all perfectly normal " .

On the one hand I wonder if I should now accept that my thyroid function has

been thoroughly checked and found to be OK. Certainly I don't have symptoms

anything like as severe as many of the people posting on the forum. On the flip

side though I've just read the following in a response to an earlier message:

" If she was living in Belgium, Germany or Sweden she would have been diagnosed

when she received her first TSH result of 2.6 - as the top of their range is

2.5, with a recommendation this be lowered even further to 1.5. TSH should be

around 1 for people to feel 'normal'. "

This makes me wonder if I could afford to see someone like Dr.Peatfield if they

might pick up on something my GP and the NHS endocrinologist have missed.

Very confused!

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> Hi Miranda ,

> Did your doctor test your T3 as you have'nt posted those results .

[Guest guest]

Dear Sheila,

Thanks very much for taking the time to reply to my post.

I've been driving myself mad wondering if I'm being stupid thinking there's a

problem with my thyroid when my GP insists everything is fine.

Because I was trying to keep my introductory message brief I didn't mention that

I ended up paying to see a doctor chosen from a list sent by Thyroid UK who told

me quite dismissively that my TSH and T4 levels were normal and I was not

hypothyroid.

I'm currently waiting for results for TSH, T4 and T3 after seeing an

endocrinologist a couple of weeks ago (my GP reluctantly agreed to write me a

referral). I've been told they are " all perfectly normal " but from what I've

read about NHS endocrinologists I'm slightly unsure about whether to trust this

or not.

Will post the results when I get them and hope to figure out whether

medication might be appropriate for me or if I should forget all about it!

Thanks again for your advice.

>

> Miranda, your TSH is too high, it would be around 1.0 or less. Your free

> Thyroxine (fT4) is too low. It should be above the middle of the reference

> range when you are not taking any thyroid hormone replacement

[Guest guest]

Hi miranda, Most healthy folk have a TSH of 1.0 and that Ft4 is close to the bottom of the range( the usual range is 11-24 ish)- so it seems that your thyroid output, though within range isn't really high enough- that's even withoout the possibility of T4 to T3 conversion problems. I would ask for a referral to an endocrinologist that specialises in thyroid issues( most do diabetes) as you can't put up with the way things are. Write a letter as more notice will be taken of that- keep a copy and ask that your letter be kept on file. list your symptoms- see files for a long list! and aslo ask for ferritin, zinc, selenium, D3, B12, folate to be tested as if any are low it can impair thyroid function. > thyroid treatment > From: mirandaplatt@...> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:59:31 +0000> Subject: Blood tests within normal range but could I still have problem with thyroid?> > Hi, I'm new to the group and would be very grateful for any opinions/ advice.> > Last year I gained 3.5 stone in the space of a few months and despite eating less and exercising far more I've been totally unable to shift it. I've also been feeling incredibly tired, had joint pain in my ankles and knees and am often constipated.> I had blood tests done in August and October last year with the following results:> TSH = 2.64 then 2.3> T4 = 10.9 then 12> > My GP said that my thyroid is fine but given the fact I still don't feel right and having read on the web that sometimes T4 is not converted into T3 etc if I might not still be slightly hypothyroid.> > I may be completely wrong in continuing to suspect there could still be a problem.> Any ideas please?!> > Miranda> > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

[Guest guest]

Never accept anybody, not even a doctor, telling you that your

tests are normal because they appear anywhere within the reference range. We

need to know WHERE in the reference range they appear as it matters very much.

Get the reference range for each test done together with the actual result, and

post them on the forum and we will help with their interpretation. You need to

be tested to see if you have any antibodies to your thyroid Miranda. Antibodies

set about the gradual destruction of your thyroid gland. Are there members in

your family with a thyroid or autoimmune disease?

The majority of those suffering the symptoms of hypothyroidism

are told that their results are within the reference range and that they

therefore do not have a thyroid problem and sent on their way with a

prescription for antidepressants. Don't accept it.

I can assure you that seeing somebody like Dr Peatfield will

most DEFINITELY pick up on something the NHS have missed. NHS doctors are badly

trained in the workings of the endocrine system, but particularly in the

workings of the greater thyroid system, as you will learn, the longer you kick

around this forum.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Janet,

Many thanks for your response.

My GP only tested TSH and T4.

Because I said I still felt there might be a problem she did agree to refer me

to an endocrinologist who I saw a couple of weeks ago.

He also said that my previous results looked fine but I asked to have my T3

checked.I'm still waiting for the results of these tests but have been told

over the phone that they're " all perfectly normal " .

On the one hand I wonder if I should now accept that my thyroid function has

been thoroughly checked and found to be OK. Certainly I don't have symptoms

anything like as severe as many of the people posting on the forum. On the flip

side though I've just read the following in a response to an earlier message: