Flouride

May 23, 2001

Phyllis,

can you elaborate on the difference between tissue salts and a typical

remedy?

are tissue salts okay to take on a regular/daily basis?

Kathy

flouride

: I believe that Tom's of Maine is Calcium Fluoride..... But it is

still

: minute amounts.. This is a natural form of fluoridation but it can

be

: dangerous as well. If you read any homeopathic Materia Medica on

Calcarea

: Fluoricum you will see...tooth decay, necrosis of the bone and teeth

caries

: (decaying of the jaw bone under the decaying tooth)... Bone

: deformities....a build up of extra bone material on the bone itself is

also

: an indication of Calcarea Fluoricium. Meaning that the remedy would

deal

: with someone who was dealing with an over abundance of Calcium

Fluoride in

: the system (probably through ground water contamination) or who is

: experiencing the " symptoms " that are similar to that of a person who

had

: direct exposure to Calcium Fluoride... What I am saying is.....I do

not

: use Tom's of Maine with Fluoride at all..

:

: Now on the other hand, there was an allopathic study that found that

minute

: amounts of Calcium Fluoride and Calcium phosphate given to elderly

women

: will reverse osteo perosis.... Homeopathy has been using Calcarea

: Fluoricum and Calcarea Phosphoricum in 6x tissue salts doses for years

as a

: calcium supplement for the elderly and for babies that seem to have a

hard

: time cutting teeth or even cutting teeth that are decayed.... So the

: allopathic study just validates what homeopathy has known for over 100

: years..

:

: ----- Original Message -----

: From: " DeMaio " <austins-mom@...>

:

: > If anything says " sodium flouride " (and I think Tom's does) it's the

waste

: kind (a waste by-product of the aluminum industry).....the only

natural

: flouride found in nature is *calcium* flouride.....

: >

: " Selena " <farisees@c...> wrote:

: > > It's amazing how misleading items in health food stores are... I

used

: to think " if they're here and they say natural or organic, they must

be

: non-toxic " and that is so not true....I mean, Tom's of Maine is a well

known

: line and they still use flouride and sls......I've gone thru several

labels

: at the hfs and it's amazing how many have toxic stuff despite saying

" all

: natural " on the label.....that's why Aubrey is the only thing I

promote as

: completely safe from the hfs.....

: > >

: > > Isn't the floride in Tom's of Maine from a natural source? I

thought

: the problem with floride in our water systems is that it is taken from

waste

: rather than from nature.

: > >

: > > Selena

: > > Northern Virginia

:

May 24, 2001

If anything says " sodium flouride " (and I think Tom's does) it's the waste kind

(a waste by-product of the aluminum industry).....the only natural flouride

found in nature is *calcium* flouride.....

> It's amazing how misleading items in health food stores are... I used to

think " if they're here and they say natural or organic, they must be non-toxic "

and that is so not true....I mean, Tom's of Maine is a well known line and they

still use flouride and sls......I've gone thru several labels at the hfs and

it's amazing how many have toxic stuff despite saying " all natural " on the

label.....that's why Aubrey is the only thing I promote as completely safe from

the hfs.....

>

> Isn't the floride in Tom's of Maine from a natural source? I thought the

problem with floride in our water systems is that it is taken from waste rather

than from nature.

>

> Selena

> Northern Virginia

>

May 24, 2001

austins-mom@... wrote:

>

> If anything says " sodium flouride " (and I think Tom's does) it's the waste

kind (a waste by-product of the aluminum industry).....the only natural

flouride found in nature is *calcium* flouride.....

Hydrofluorisilic acid is also a manufacturing by-product that is

considered hazardous waste UNLESS marketed as a fluoride supplement.

Fluoride is so pervasive in our environment in such small amounts that

no one has yet been able to design a study with a fluoride-free control to

show it is an essential mineral (a.k.a necessary for life.)

If anyone is interested in natural sources of fluoride look into the

herbs the Egyptians used to mumify the pharohs. You can then cross check

them against the USDA nutrient database located at

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl. Never mind. I just

checked and they don't test for fluoride.

Anyway, here is a website (http://witch.drak.net/nywitch/nw2.html) where

I found the following list of natural fluoride sources. Sunflower seeds,

raw unadulterated honey, bee pollen, propolis, royal jelly. Fluorine is also

found in the following herbs: Birch, cramp bark, fenugreek, glucomannan,

hops, kelp, myrrh, passion flower, plantain, psyllium, safflower, St.

swort, spikenard, yerba santa. HERBAL medications are teeming with

nutrients and the body WILL readily utilize them in its behalf... actually

detoxifying and rebuilding the system, therefore enhancing one's health.

Deficiency Symptoms: Tooth caries and cavities. A Fluorine deficiency is

highly improbable. Benefits: Fluorine is useful in the treatment of dental

cavities and caries. Beneficial in the prevention of osteoporosis. Protects

the body against infections. Antagonists: Alcoholic beverages, tobacco

(nicotine), cola drinks, most soft drinks (other than natural juices),

coffee and tea (caffeinated and decaffeinated), chocolate (cocoa), inorganic

mineral water (tap, well, spring), polluted air, refined sugar and refined

sugar substitutes, overcooking foods, all manner of refined and processed

foods, commercial synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides, fungicides,

radiation exposure, inorganic acids and alkalies, synthetic estrogen,

synthetic birth control, sulfa drugs.

If you want to absorb calcium fluoride you need to eliminate exposure to

sodium fluoride and hydrofluorosilic acid as the inhibit the asborption of

calcium fluoride. I assume using the cell salt calc fluor would also help

absorption BUT anyone who knows more in that area please feel free to

correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheryl Overley

May 24, 2001

A long time ago I read a book about flouride and there was a

study/comparison done. The group with no flouride and lots of

dairy(calcium) also ate sweets at will. The other group had flouride and

reduced or no sweets and I'm not sure of dairy. The results? More cavities

in the floridated group. So, that pretty much cinched it for me altho I

confess I was talked into topical once or twice for children(they were so

pleasantly insistent and I didn't want to offend them! and this was swabbed

on not the type where they had to sit with a mouth tray full of it and not

swallow...yich...remember those...) but I am a lot stronger now and tell

them up front NO flouride. I can find another dentist...

A study as you suggest would be interesting for sure...

>

..

Fluoride is so pervasive in our environment in such small amounts that

no one has yet been able to design a study with a fluoride-free control to

show it is an essential mineral (a.k.a necessary for life.)

May 24, 2001

Here is the info straight from Tom's of Maines site:

Active Ingredient

Sodium monofluorophosphate Decay prevention Fluorspar (calcium fluoride),

an ore

Ingredient Fact Sheet

Fluoride

(Sodium monofluorophosphate)

What is it?

In its free elemental form, fluoride is a trace mineral (like iodine) called

fluorine. In nature, it is found only in compound forms, such as fluorspar

(calcium fluoride) in soil, or minerals such as fluorophosphates. It can be

found in both fresh and sea water, in food (fish, bone meal, tea), and in our

bodies as part of the bone.

What does it do?

When formulated correctly and used as directed, fluoride toothpaste will help to

safely and effectively prevent tooth decay. Numerous clinical studies have

demonstrated fluoride's effectiveness in reducing cavities. Fluoride helps

diminish demineralization of tooth enamel and even enhances the remineralization

of potential decay spots.

What are the alternatives?

Fluoride is currently the only toothpaste ingredient recognized by the US Food

and Drug Administration to prevent cavities. The FDA recognizes three forms of

fluoride: sodium monofluorophosphate, sodium fluoride, and stannous fluoride and

regulates the levels at which they can be included in toothpaste formulations.

Consumers who do not wish to use an anti-cavity toothpaste may be interested to

know that Tom's of Maine also produces a line of fluoride-free toothpaste. We

feel it is important to offer individuals a choice and trust that they will work

with their dental care professionals to establish an oral care regimen that is

right for them.

What are the risks?

All fluoride toothpastes marketed in the US are required by the FDA to bear

certain warning language that caution against accidental ingestion. Calling the

FDA warning " an extreme cautionary statement, " the American Dental Association

has said the FDA warning label is " unnecessary " and " goes too far. " In its pure

form, fluoride is toxic, but only in doses and concentrations that far exceed

what is available in our toothpaste.

Most of the concerns raised about fluoride have stemmed from controversy

surrounding the fluoridation of municipal drinking water supplies. The question

of mass fluoridation of public water is an entirely separate issue from

including fluoride in toothpaste. Fluoride toothpaste is applied directly to the

surface of the teeth, delivers a benefit, and is immediately rinsed out. Water

fluoridation, by contrast, depends on fluoride ingestion and cavity prevention

benefits to adults has been questioned.----- Original Message -----

I hope this helps.

Selena