Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Fluoride in water is about the most inefficient way to get fluoride, if it ever did any good anyway.. so skip that. Yes, too much will cause flouridosis. I have 2 kids susceptible to that. It’s in a lot of things. It’s in tap water and all the juices made ready to drink.. guess what they have? Some products it to it. I know I’ve read Sunny-D has it added. Skipping fluoride does not do any damage. Mostly it’s genetics, on good/bad teeth and what you eat. Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2, and due 2/08 Some minds are like concrete: Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set. ,_._,___ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: 12/4/2007 7:31 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: 12/4/2007 7:31 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 thank you! i will go to amazon.com and look at that book... beth howell <howelleli@...> wrote: We flat out do not use Fluoride products in our house. Toms of Maine has great Fluoride free products. The prescription for the supplements that the Ped gives I just throw away. I'm in the process of reading the Fluoride Deception it is a very good book. carrie ferlazzo <carriesuzanne1@...> wrote: what is the research on giving flouride supplememted water to infants over 6 months? i have read that too much causes flourosis and not any/too little causes teeth problems...i am confused...i have a 9 month old son. he is breastfed, but gets bottled water in his cereal 2x daily. should i give him flouride supplemented water? also, is steam distilled water the best to drink? thanks, carrie mensrea320@... wrote: In a message dated 12/4/2007 4:10:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mountainmissypurple@... writes: He suggests that if you are non-vax, it is a good idea to avoid daycare or a church nursery for the first 2 years. I also had a midwife/homeopath tell me that. If I avoided things like that, would never go anywhere, and I would want to put a bullet in my head. We go to playgroup 2-3x a week, storytime 1x a week, children's museum 1x a week, church 1x a week. Those are her minimum weekly activities. To me that statement is just trying to scare parents. He should recommend that people who vax shouldn't go to those places either. Their immune systems are a lot worse off than the non vaxed children. I am not a complete fan of Dr. Sears. I think he does a lot of AP promotion which is good, but his stance on vaccines and fluoride is troubling. I am happy to see his son has at least suggested there are alternatives to rigidly following current protocol. Holly **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I've always been taught that fluride is a huge no no. Aside from it being toxic, it doesn't actually do any good, and even though they are adding it to everything now, it's not good to consume. I don't know all the side effects, but I do know that it doesn't work and it is toxic in large amounts. Re: Re: flouride what is the research on giving flouride supplememted water to infants over 6 months? i have read that too much causes flourosis and not any/too little causes teeth problems...i am confused...i have a 9 month old son. he is breastfed, but gets bottled water in his cereal 2x daily. should i give him flouride supplemented water? also, is steam distilled water the best to drink? thanks, carrie mensrea320@... wrote: In a message dated 12/4/2007 4:10:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mountainmissypurple@... writes: He suggests that if you are non-vax, it is a good idea to avoid daycare or a church nursery for the first 2 years. I also had a midwife/homeopath tell me that. If I avoided things like that, would never go anywhere, and I would want to put a bullet in my head. We go to playgroup 2-3x a week, storytime 1x a week, children's museum 1x a week, church 1x a week. Those are her minimum weekly activities. To me that statement is just trying to scare parents. He should recommend that people who vax shouldn't go to those places either. Their immune systems are a lot worse off than the non vaxed children. I am not a complete fan of Dr. Sears. I think he does a lot of AP promotion which is good, but his stance on vaccines and fluoride is troubling. I am happy to see his son has at least suggested there are alternatives to rigidly following current protocol. Holly **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I read a new report years ago of a child (5 or 6 yrs old) who accidentally swallowed some fluoride during a cleaning treatment. The child died within a few hours of fluoride poisoning. I never understood the need for a fluoride treatment for kids that don't even have their permanent teeth yet. Yet again, probably all about the money. My adult step daughter recently had a fluoride treatment and she too swallowed some of the stuff. She spent the rest of the afternoon puking in the toilet. You may take note of the CYA warning statement on all fluoride toothpaste boxes. Joe carrie ferlazzo <carriesuzanne1@...> wrote: what is the research on giving flouride supplememted water to infants over 6 months? i have read that too much causes flourosis and not any/too little causes teeth problems...i am confused...i have a 9 month old son. he is breastfed, but gets bottled water in his cereal 2x daily. should i give him flouride supplemented water? also, is steam distilled water the best to drink? thanks, carrie mensrea320@... wrote: In a message dated 12/4/2007 4:10:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mountainmissypurple@... writes: He suggests that if you are non-vax, it is a good idea to avoid daycare or a church nursery for the first 2 years. I also had a midwife/homeopath tell me that. If I avoided things like that, would never go anywhere, and I would want to put a bullet in my head. We go to playgroup 2-3x a week, storytime 1x a week, children's museum 1x a week, church 1x a week. Those are her minimum weekly activities. To me that statement is just trying to scare parents. He should recommend that people who vax shouldn't go to those places either. Their immune systems are a lot worse off than the non vaxed children. I am not a complete fan of Dr. Sears. I think he does a lot of AP promotion which is good, but his stance on vaccines and fluoride is troubling. I am happy to see his son has at least suggested there are alternatives to rigidly following current protocol. Holly **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 For some disturbing facts about fluoride go to: http://www.all-natural.com/fleffect.html Joe " : ) " <canyon13@...> wrote: I've always been taught that fluride is a huge no no. Aside from it being toxic, it doesn't actually do any good, and even though they are adding it to everything now, it's not good to consume. I don't know all the side effects, but I do know that it doesn't work and it is toxic in large amounts. Re: Re: flouride what is the research on giving flouride supplememted water to infants over 6 months? i have read that too much causes flourosis and not any/too little causes teeth problems...i am confused...i have a 9 month old son. he is breastfed, but gets bottled water in his cereal 2x daily. should i give him flouride supplemented water? also, is steam distilled water the best to drink? thanks, carrie mensrea320@... wrote: In a message dated 12/4/2007 4:10:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mountainmissypurple@... writes: He suggests that if you are non-vax, it is a good idea to avoid daycare or a church nursery for the first 2 years. I also had a midwife/homeopath tell me that. If I avoided things like that, would never go anywhere, and I would want to put a bullet in my head. We go to playgroup 2-3x a week, storytime 1x a week, children's museum 1x a week, church 1x a week. Those are her minimum weekly activities. To me that statement is just trying to scare parents. He should recommend that people who vax shouldn't go to those places either. Their immune systems are a lot worse off than the non vaxed children. I am not a complete fan of Dr. Sears. I think he does a lot of AP promotion which is good, but his stance on vaccines and fluoride is troubling. I am happy to see his son has at least suggested there are alternatives to rigidly following current protocol. Holly **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 My son drinks the tap water every day, but I have a Brita water filter. Does this remove flouride? If not, what are some options? > > Fluoride in water is about the most inefficient way to get fluoride, if > it ever did any good anyway.. so skip that. > > > > Yes, too much will cause flouridosis. I have 2 kids susceptible to that. > It's in a lot of things. It's in tap water and all the juices made ready > to drink.. guess what they have? Some products it to it. I know I've > read Sunny-D has it added. > > > > Skipping fluoride does not do any damage. Mostly it's genetics, on > good/bad teeth and what you eat. > > > > Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13, > 10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2, > and due 2/08 > Some minds are like concrete: > Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set. > > ,_._,___ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: > 12/4/2007 7:31 PM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: > 12/4/2007 7:31 PM > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hi all, If you are in Australia, the AVN sells the Fluoride Deception <http://www.avn.org.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=696> via our website - the link is http://www.avn.org.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=696. It IS an excellent book and we will be reviewing it in the next issue of Informed Voice (February 2008) and also having a feature provided to us by Glen of Australian Fluoridation News. Please check carefully for any products you use that might contain fluoride and this includes juices that you buy from the supermarket in bottles, cans or boxes which are made from reconstituted fruit juice - most times they will be reconstituted with fluoridated water. All the best, Meryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Sorry - I should have given Glen 's <http://www.glenwalker.net/> website in my last message - it is http://www.glenwalker.net/. An excellent source of information on the dangers of Fluoride from a very passionate proponent of the right to choose! All the best, Meryl Meryl Dorey, President Australian Vaccination Network Enabling Australians to make informed health choices Editor Informed Voice Magazine Your Health - Your Rights - Your Options PO Box 177 BANGALOW NSW 2479 Phone: (61 +2) 02 6687 1699 FAX (61 +2) 02 6687 2032 SKYPE: ivmmag meryl@... www.avn.org.au <http://www.avn.org.au/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Vida Khan wrote: >My son drinks the tap water every day, but I have a Brita water >filter. Does this remove flouride? If not, what are some options? > I belive Reverse Osmosis and Evaporation (steam distiller) are one of two ways to get the fluoride out. hth, Bobbett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 We have have one of these, which removed fluoride from water: http://steamdistiller.com/ Kay Re: flouride > My son drinks the tap water every day, but I have a Brita water > filter. Does this remove flouride? If not, what are some options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 And it is absorbed thru your skinwhile bathing (yick).. I read that fluoride is dangerous to infants and the elderly. that's why " baby " toothpaste does not have it and the reasonfor warnings on a typical tube... Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I'm sure everyone realizes this...but just in case. Anything and everything you put on your skin (or inhale, or eat) is absorbed into your body. That's why the Environmental Working Group body burden study is so significant. It proves that, Plus it shows that our bodies don't shed those toxins as easily as once thought. As for toothpastes with fluoride, read the label - it has a warning about not swallowing! Health & blessings, *Go GREEN with GET CLEAN as featured on Oprah's Favorite Things! Holiday Special - 33% off, limited time* - http://www.shaklee.net/EcoClean/product/59262 http://www.shaklee.net/EcoClean/getclean P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Dec 11, 2007 4:33 AM, birthwarrior <llandes9897@...> wrote: > And it is absorbed thru your skinwhile bathing (yick).. I read that > fluoride is dangerous to infants and the elderly. that's why " baby " > toothpaste does not have it and the reasonfor warnings on a typical > tube... > Laurie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 HI PAULA and ALL I have just been reading about this, and it is close to my locality, but not my water supply.It could well be in my Sister and her family's location, as most of them live in Winchester or Southampton. If any more areas fluoride the water, is there a way of getting rid of it. Would it be safer to buy bottled water and also filter it. Kathleen > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-12427955 > > May be of interest. > > Cheers > > > a > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I think most water authorities have been waiting for the outcome of this so more water authorities will be adding flouride. So it may be coming to an area near us soon. I think the only way to get flouride out of water is a reverse osmosis filer. Some bottled water has flouride in it. Thanks a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Like the rest of us i am appalled by the Judges decision What is vital to realise is :- 1) the flouride they want to add is a WASTE PRODUCT from the Aluminium industry which instead of them paying to dispose of they are making money from Aluminium is a cumilative toxic poison in all its forms and equally damaging to the body and the thyroid Flouride unless its naturally occuring is also a cumilative toxic poison Flouride is implicated in numerous cancers and for triggering Thyroid Diseases The only way to really remove it from your water supply is to fit an expensive Reverse Osmosis Filtering system Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 In that case we need to devise a system to collect and purify rainwater for drinking. For most of the year we would have adequate supplies of that. Does anyone know of any? Miriam > No, a reverse osmosis system does NOT remove fluoride!!!!! There is not a system on the market that will say that it removes fluoride let alone does it. > Glynis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 here is a piece on how fluoride causes thyroid problems http://www.naturalnews.com/031317_fluoride_iodine.html love janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 how to detox fluoride, I've printed this out for my hypothyroid folder! http://www.NaturalNews.com/026605_fluoride_fluorides_detox.html love janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Yes, you buy water purification tablets from a good camping shop such as Blacks? Glynis > In that case we need to devise a system to collect and purify rainwater for drinking. For most of the year we would have adequate supplies of that. Does anyone know of any? > Miriam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 an interesting few videos to watch about fluoride http://www.foreverhealthywater.com/fluoride-why-not.php love janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 a fluoride map http://www.dwi.gov.uk/consumers/advice-leaflets/fluoridemap.pdf love janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 There's no inherent reason that reverse osmosis should not be able to remove fluoride. The ability of a reverse osmosis system to remove fluoride (and most other things, for that matter) depends on the membrane pore (hole) size. If the pore size is smaller than the fluoride ion, about 2.7 nanometers, the ion simply can't fit through the hole, and will not enter the purified water. Fluoride has been removed in RO systems, but I can't speak to the membranes used in cheap consumer RO devices and thus their efficacy. > > No, a reverse osmosis system does NOT remove fluoride!!!!! There is not a system on the market that will say that it removes fluoride let alone does it. > Glynis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 That may be so but there is not a system on the market of whom the manufacturers will even SAY that it removes fluoride let alone whether it does! I have asked that specific question of all of them and NO-ONE is willing to say one way or the other. Pretty expensive thing to get wrong. The last company was at the Good Food show at the NEC and I asked if their system removed fluoride, their answer 'Probably' not good enough really. Glynis > There's no inherent reason that reverse osmosis should not be able to remove fluoride. The ability of a reverse osmosis system to remove fluoride (and most other things, for that matter) depends on the membrane pore (hole) size. If the pore size is smaller than the fluoride ion, about 2.7 nanometers, the ion simply can't fit through the hole, and will not enter the purified water. Fluoride has been removed in RO systems, but I can't speak to the membranes used in cheap consumer RO devices and thus their efficacy. > > > > > > No, a reverse osmosis system does NOT remove fluoride!!!!! There is not a system on the market that will say that it removes fluoride let alone does it. > > Glynis > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Here are links to 3 that claim to remove fluoride: http://www.amazon.com/Reverse-Osmosis-Storage-Removes-Fluoride/dp/B002LHDL7E http://www.pwgazette.com/fluorideindex.htm - " 1. Reverse Osmosis. The best way to remove fluoride from drinking water is reverse osmosis. Any good reverse osmosis unit removes about 95% of fluoride by its nature. No special filters or setup is needed. See our undersink reverse osmosis units and countertop reverse osmosis units. Enhanced Performance Undersink Fluoride Filter. The second best way to remove fluoride from drinking water is with our unique enhanced performance fluoride filter, which features an extra slow pass through Activated Alumina to maximize fluoride reduction. The unit comes standard with our two best carbon block filters for superb city-water treatment. It's a unique product that you won't find anywhere else. " http://www.filtersfast.com/AquaFlo-E75TFC-3SF-RO-Filter-System.asp I can't speak to the accuracy any of these product claims. > > > That may be so but there is not a system on the market of whom the manufacturers will even SAY that it removes fluoride let alone whether it does! > I have asked that specific question of all of them and NO-ONE is willing to say one way or the other. Pretty expensive thing to get wrong. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 > http://www.amazon.com/Reverse-Osmosis-Storage-Removes-Fluoride/dp/B002LHDL7E is American, not sure how available it is to get it fitted in the UK. > http://www.filtersfast.com/AquaFlo-E75TFC-3SF-RO-Filter-System.asp says it REMOVES or REDUCES, does not state that it removes completely. Fair play, you found some companies that I hadn't. I stick by what I say though, the majority of companies will not guarantee that their systems remove fluoride. Glynis The unit comes standard with our two best carbon block filters for superb city-water treatment. It's a unique product that you won't find anywhere else. " > > > I can't speak to the accuracy any of these product claims. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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