Re: What's going on with T4 in France

[Guest guest]

Are you in France ?    Where did you hear of it.    Can you list the exact name of the T4 they are talking about.Lilian

I don't know if all this has made the papers in UK but there is a big scandal

going on in France about a drug 

[Guest guest]

Here is a link regarding it:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12155639Lilian

I don't know if all this has made the papers in UK but there is a big scandal

going on in France about a drug that was given to diabetics to help them lose

weight.  It turned out that this drug (MEDIATOR) 

[Guest guest]

Hi , I think for a large majority of those with symptoms of

hypothyroidism, it does 'appear' to work - but this is only in those cases who

have very low secretion of thyroid hormone from the thyroid gland. It is absolutely

NO use for people who have peripheral thyroid hormone resistance or deficiency

at cellular level. They need T3. Perhaps they are beginning to see sense after

all this time.

The drug companies are not going to like this if it is found, at

last, that levothyroxine alone is pretty useless for a large minority of

sufferers.

Luv - Sheila

I don't know if all this has made the papers in

UK but there is a big scandal

going on in France about a drug that was given to diabetics to help them lose

weight. It turned out that this drug (MEDIATOR) was giving people mitral

valve

problems and was probably responsible for a large number of deaths. To add

to

the scandal, it appears that certain people have been saying that it was

dangerous for over 10 years and that the powers that be of the medical world

did

nothing about it.

The spin off from all this is a list of drugs that has been published this

afternoon. These drugs are all going to be reviewed because it is

considered

that even if they do what they are supposed to, they have too many

drawbacks

(!!?) whatever that means. One of the drugs on this list is the standard

T4

drug that is given to people who have thyroid problems. This begs the

question,

what will they give thyroid patients if it is withdrawn from the market?

It is going to be interesting to see how all this turns out........

MacGilchrist

[Guest guest]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benfluorex

Mediator !

>> I don't know if all this has made the papers in UK but there is a big scandal > going on in France about a drug that was given to diabetics to help them lose > weight. It turned out that this drug (MEDIATOR) was giving people mitral valve > problems and was probably responsible for a large number of deaths.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,We are in France and had seen the article about Mediator but can't find any list of other drugs including a synthetic T4 Levothyroxine sodium. Where is the list to be found?From: MacGilchrist <s.macgilxrist@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 21:01:35Subject: What's going on with T4 in France

I don't know if all this has made the papers in UK but there is a big scandal

going on in France about a drug that was given to diabetics to help them lose

weight. It turned out that this drug (MEDIATOR) was giving people mitral valve

[Guest guest]

Thank you Lilian. That's much more detail and info than we are getting here!

MacGilchrist

From: "recent:lilian15@..." <lilian15@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 21:08:18Subject: Re: What's going on with T4 in France

Here is a link regarding it:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12155639

Lilian

[Guest guest]

The product is called Lévothyrox. Yes I am in France and I used to take this stuff everyday!!!! There is a bit of buzz about it on the French thyroid fiorum that I belong to because everyone is asking what they are going to replace it with if it is banned.

In my opinion we are a while from it being banned. First of all the decision has to taken to ban it and then the decision has to be taken about what to replace it with and that is a lot of decisions for this country.

MacGilchrist

From: "recent:lilian15@..." <lilian15@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 21:05:58Subject: Re: What's going on with T4 in France

Are you in France ? Where did you hear of it. Can you list the exact name of the T4 they are talking about.

Lilian

I don't know if all this has made the papers in UK but there is a big scandalgoing on in France about a drug

[Guest guest]

Dear Ian,

I got this link from a French forum that I belong to.

http://embedit.in/l9zFNiAR6n

MacGilchrist - La Mayenne.

From: Ian Parsons <i.parsons@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 10:29:15Subject: Re: What's going on with T4 in France

Hi ,We are in France and had seen the article about Mediator but can't find any list of other drugs including a synthetic T4 Levothyroxine sodium. Where is the list to be found?

From: MacGilchrist <s.macgilxrist@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 21:01:35Subject: What's going on with T4 in France

I don't know if all this has made the papers in UK but there is a big scandal going on in France about a drug that was given to diabetics to help them lose weight. It turned out that this drug (MEDIATOR) was giving people mitral valve

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

As I said to Lilian, I'm not holding my breath on this one. Lots of decisions will have to be made (at least two) and in this bureaucratic paradise, that takes time. But I suppose it is progress of a sort.

MacG.

From: Sheila <sheila@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 22:36:05Subject: RE: What's going on with T4 in France

Perhaps they are beginning to see sense after all this time.

[Guest guest]

HI SARAH

Do you know what the ingrediants in this thyroid drug are, and could the same

drug appear under a different name in the UK and other countries. Many of us

have not got well on T4,and I have had to stop taking it altogether as I am

better off without it. T4 is a sodium in fact salt, and it raises blood pressure

which in turn is not good for ones heart or kidneys. Goldshield had mentioned

that they were going to change their formula, so could this be something to do

with it.

Sodium causes calcium to be lost through the kidneys, so in turn can it be the

cause of our bone problems or stones in the kidneys.

How many years did you take this for .

Kathleen

>

> The product is called Lévothyrox.  Yes I am in France and I used to take

this

> stuff everyday!!!!  There is a bit of buzz about it on the French thyroid

fiorum

> that I belong to because everyone is asking what they are going to replace it

> with if it is banned.

> In my opinion we are a while from it being banned.  First of all the decision

> has to taken to ban it and then the decision has to be taken about what to

> replace it with and that is a lot of decisions for this country.

> MacGilchrist

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathleen,

The amount of sodium that goes with 100micrograms of thyroxine is tiny in

comparison with the usual salt load.

Other sources of salt are more important.

Bob

> >

> > The product is called Lévothyrox.  Yes I am in France and I used to take

this

> > stuff everyday!!!!  There is a bit of buzz about it on the French thyroid

fiorum

> > that I belong to because everyone is asking what they are going to replace

it

> > with if it is banned.

> > In my opinion we are a while from it being banned.  First of all the

decision

> > has to taken to ban it and then the decision has to be taken about what to

> > replace it with and that is a lot of decisions for this country.

> > MacGilchrist

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,That's what I was looking for.I don't think it's loss here is so significant as it is very common for people to have thyroidectomies here so Cynomel is available and there are a number of doctors who prescribe it. They also prescribe Euthyral which is 100mcg Levo + 20mcg T3. I think they will change to T3 regime, or who knows maybe even NDT.