My mums NHS thyroid results and more

[Guest guest]

My mum has been borderline thyroid for the past 3 years and only in December

2010 did her TSH rise to 6.3.

In the years she was borderline I was foolish enough to trust the NHS and let my

mum suffer.

I should have looked into thyroid issues earlier because now the GP has given my

mum 25 micrograms of Levothyroxine and it is causing her side-effects such as

headaches etc.

I've learned a lot over the past few months regarding adrenal fatigue and low

thyroid function and the two going hand in hand in causing misery for a person.

I also have suspected adrenal fatigue for which I am getting labs for to confirm

and NHS tests confirm I am subclinical hypo but I haven't got my copy of the

results yet so I'll leave that for another thread.

Here are the thyroid results of my mum from January 2010, please help me make

sense of them:

Serum free T4 level: 17.0 pmol/L (11.0-22.0 U)

Serum TSH level: 5.2 mU/L (0.10-4.00 U)

Serum Urea and Electrolytes:

Serum sodium: 140 mmol/L (133-146 U)

Serum potassium: 4.3 mmol/L (3.5-5.3 U)

Serum urea level: 4.6 mmol/L (2.5-7.5 U)

Serum creatinine: 58 umol/L (45-100 U)

GFR calculated: >60 ml/min (>60 U)

December 2010 results:

Serum free T4 level: 15.4 pmol/L (11.0-22.0 U)

Serum TSH level: 6.3 mU/L (0.10-4.00 U)

Serum Urea and Electrolytes:

Serum sodium: 141 mmol/L (133-146 U)

Serum potassium: 4.1 mmol/L (3.5-5.3 U)

Serum creatinine: 57 umol/L (45-100 U)

GFR calculated: >60 ml/min (>60 U)

Should I also post up the Liver function test? Doctor said everything was ok.

Many thanks for reading!

[Guest guest]

Eiji,

There's nothing borderline about a tsh of over 5, your poor mum must have been

really struggling. Her thyroid is managing to make thyroid hormones, but it is

having to be driven very hard to do this. 25 mcg is a piddling amount and is

probably enough to supress her thyroid production, but not enough to help.

The doctor needs to be looking at her evey few weeks and raising the meds.

100/150 is an average replacement t4 dose.

Does your mum have thyroid antibodies? (Hashimotos) has the doc thought to

check?

Have a look at this press release by the society for endocrinology, released in

March. It states that a tsh over 4 puts the patient at a higher risk of heart

problems....... Hasn't the doc been doing his research?

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/gLQjTUWcjiaFYSbCaTxHZeN4OL6skYoyGeqKdM6MG8wyV3Cegsg\

HS-WRwwWLivic2h3-EmPSjV6SATKjaYvXaw/THYROID%20REFERENCES/Low%20tsh%20is%20ok....\

%20soc%20for%20end.pdf

If the link doesn't work, go to the files section, scroll down to thyroid

references and the file is called 'low tsh is ok'.

you mum will need selenium, to help her convert the prohormone t4 into the

active hormone t3, and she will need vitamin c, lots of it........ and

probably she should be asking for a referral to an endocrinolgist of her choice,

as the doctor seems to be making a bit of a mess of things.....

.

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> My mum has been borderline thyroid for the past 3 years and only in December

2010 did her TSH rise to 6.3.

>

> In the years she was borderline I was foolish enough to trust the NHS and let

my mum suffer.

>

[Guest guest]

The NHS didn't check for antibodies. Had I known about the thyroid as much as I

do now, I would have requested the doctor check for anti-bodies in the test.

Me, my mum and my dad went through a very stressful year back in 2009, we were

averaging around 4-5 hours of sleep a day. Once the problem was resolved, we

never got better but as time went on, we got progressively worse.

The 3 of us don't get refreshing sleep, even if we sleep 12 hours a day and have

fluctuating body temperature.

I suspect we may have adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism but I really hope we

don't have thyroid anti-bodies because then it will mean it is for life but

if we don't have anti-bodies on the thyroid then I am really hoping the 3 of us

recover with supplementation.

My goal is to have my thyroid and adrenal glands to work normally again like

they used to without medication.

Is that really an unrealistic goal?

Thanks.

>

> Eiji,

>

> There's nothing borderline about a tsh of over 5, your poor mum must have

been really struggling.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Once your thyroid has failed or been destroyed by anitbodies then sadly it will not regenerate. You will have to accept thyroid replacement as permanent. Adrenals however, can often recover after a period of support once the thyroid issue has been dealt with correctly, then the adrenal support can be withdrawn very slowly. All other vit and mineral deficiencies, especially iron selenium zinc vit D3 and B12 are all vital to proper thyroid function. > Subject: Re: My mums NHS thyroid results and more> > The NHS didn't check for antibodies. Had I known about the thyroid as much as I do now, I would have requested the doctor check for anti-bodies in the test.> > > I suspect we may have adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism but I really hope we don't have thyroid anti-bodies because then it will mean it is for life but if we don't have anti-bodies on the thyroid then I am really hoping the 3 of us recover with supplementation.> > My goal is to have my thyroid and adrenal glands to work normally again like they used to without medication.> > Is that really an unrealistic goal?> > Thanks.> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

But the thyroid not working properly can be caused by vitamin & mineral

deficiencies and adrenal insufficiency right and this can be corrected/cured by

supporting the adrenals and thyroid with the vitamins & minerals?

By " Once your thyroid has failed " do you mean once the TSH has risen (in our

case) then it can never stay low on its own (like a healthy thyroid) even if you

correct the adrenals and have NO antibodies?

Thanks.

>

>

> Hi,

> Once your thyroid has failed or been destroyed by anitbodies then sadly

it will not regenerate. You will have to accept thyroid replacement as

permanent.

[Guest guest]

Hi,- temporary thyroiditis can occur following childbirth, and occasionally Graves disease can burn out, leaving the patient well, but this is rare. Most cases of thyroid failure are autoimune, but usually the raised TSH is the diagnostic and antibody levels are never measured. To your reply the answer is- yes. thyroid replacement therapy is needed to keep the TSH low, but using TSH as an indicator of thyroid status can be misleading- see Sheila's message to another subscriber earlier today. > thyroid treatment > From: eiji.shinjo@...> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:30:31 +0000> Subject: Re: My mums NHS thyroid results and more> > Hi,> > But the thyroid not working properly can be caused by vitamin & mineral deficiencies and adrenal insufficiency right and this can be corrected/cured by supporting the adrenals and thyroid with the vitamins & minerals?> > By "Once your thyroid has failed" do you mean once the TSH has risen (in our case) then it can never stay low on its own (like a healthy thyroid) even if you correct the adrenals and have NO antibodies?> > Thanks.> > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >