Re: HEAVY, FREQUENT PERIODS AND TOO MUCH THYROXINE

[Guest guest]

That sounds more like too much oestrogen and not enough progesterone, from what

I have read in Dr Lee's books

http://www.johnleemd.com/

or even hypothyroidism, rather than hyperthyroidism. Sorry I can't cite any

references, but I hope other people will be able to.

Miriam

> Our GP today informed me that having thyroxine when you don't need it can be

the cause of heavy, frequent painful periods. I understood that it was if you

didn't make enough thyroxine, underactive thyroid, would cause this.

[Guest guest]

Hi Miriam

Thank you so much for your reply and the link you gave.

The Endo said that my Daughter's thyroid isn't producing enough thyroxine and that she have thyroxine. Our GP stated that his concern is my Daughter having thyroxine treatment when she didn;t need it (in his opinion not the Endos) that taking it would

cause all of the heavy bleeding, frequent,painful periods.. She does have oestrogen dominance however. So am I right in thinking that our Gp has got it slightly wrong do you think? I mean her Endo is a specialist foremost in the thyroid, pituitary, adrenal and the sex hormones. He would know wouldn't he?

Thank you again for your kind reply.

All the best

Vickyanne

From: miriam_hinch <miriam_hinch@...>Subject: Re: HEAVY, FREQUENT PERIODS AND TOO MUCH THYROXINEthyroid treatment Date: Thursday, 3 February, 2011, 15:34

That sounds more like too much oestrogen and not enough progesterone, from what I have read in Dr Lee's bookshttp://www.johnleemd.com/or even hypothyroidism, rather than hyperthyroidism. Sorry I can't cite any references, but I hope other people will be able to.Miriam>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Vicky, under our list of Symptoms of Hypothyroidism, under Menstrual disorders

is listed:

???? Cessation of periods (amenorrhoea)

???? Scanty (light) periods (oligomenorrhoea)

???? Heavy periods (menorrhagia)

???? Infertility

???? Premenstrual syndrome/tension (PMS/PMT)

???? Endometriosis

Luv - Sheila

Our GP today informed me that having thyroxine when you don't need it can be

the cause of heavy, frequent painful periods. I understood that it was if you

didn't make enough thyroxine, underactive thyroid, would cause this.

Is he misinformed do you think?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards to all

Vickyanne

[Guest guest]

PLEASE SNIP YOUR MESSAGES MIRIAM. I HAVE DONE IT THIS TIME.

Moderator.

I'm glad to see Sheila agreed with me about the hypothyroidism! :-)

I have been reading this group for a few years now, and this is the first time I

have read of a GP thinking that taking too much thyroxine (supposing it was too

much) could cause heavy bleeding, etc. Yes, he could be wrong. Why not?

No-one is infallible.

Miriam

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila

Thank you for your reply and the information. I thought that heavy painful periods was a sign of being underactive with the thyroid, but I didn't think that light and cessation of periods is also a sign. So according to our GP heavy, frequent and painful periods are also caused by too much thyroxine or having thyroxine tablets when you don't need it.. Because of the 24hr thyroid urine function test done by genova and the results which I showed to the head doctor at our surgery he noted that her T4 was indeed low and started my Daughter on a trial dose of thyroxine. At the time our usual GP was on a sabbatical otherwise he would never have seen it that way. He is not very well informed. Thinks he is which is quite frightening really. Even her new Endo said that her thyroid is under producing, and he specialises only in the thyroid, the pituitary the adrenals and the hormones in the body, not diabetes

first and foremost.

Once again thank you for the information you sent me.

kind regards

Vickyanne

From: Sheila <sheila@...>Subject: RE: HEAVY, FREQUENT PERIODS AND TOO MUCH THYROXINEthyroid treatment Date: Thursday, 3 February, 2011, 16:48

Hi Vicky, under our list of Symptoms of Hypothyroidism, under Menstrual disorders is listed:

􀂉 Cessation of periods (amenorrhoea)

􀂉 Scanty (light) periods (oligomenorrhoea)

􀂉 Heavy periods (menorrhagia)

􀂉 Infertility

􀂉 Premenstrual syndrome/tension (PMS/PMT)

􀂉 Endometriosis

Luv - Sheila

Kind regards to allVickyanne

[Guest guest]

HI

My Daughter had heavy periods and started early aged 11, plus being a problem

with constipation. She lost her first child while still on the pill which they

would not take away although the baby had died, as she must have had an

infection which they were treating first.

She had a son, but had more miscarriages until diagnosed with Hypothyroidism,

but sadly the third child suffered from brain damage due to a problem with the

placenta.I think your GP is wrong, but Ostrogen and progresterone appear to be

involved in thyroid problems.

Kathleen

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> Hi all

>

> I wonder if anyone can help with this question.

>

> Kind regards to all

>

>

> Vickyanne

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[Guest guest]

That is what I thought - but I am new to this and just needed confirmation; Thank you so much.

Hi Lillian, I am so sorry if I did not clip my previous mesage i thought I had. Apologies!

Vickyanne

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have Graves

disease – ie my body is producing way, way, way too much thyroxine and I

have had irregular, very heavy and painful periods. So your GP is right,

that can happen. However, I have also had scant, light and very irregular

periods whilst I was also hyper.

I think menstrual trouble can be a sign of thyroid

imbalance one way or the other. I don’t think it’s a reason

to not treat someone though.

I was told by a gynaecologist two years ago that the

only way to treat my irregular, heavy periods was to have my womb removed (I

kid you not, I was 36!! I said NO obviously) – if the dimwit had checked

my thyroid he would have given me a totally different piece of advice. And

of course, as my thyroid hormones slowly stabilise on my treatment I am now

back on a 28 day cycle, which is a miracle as I was having periods every ten

days, but they are still heavy, but getting better.

Also, an integrative doctor diagnosed me with

oestrogen dominance, but when in fact I had my sex hormones tested, I was

perfectly balanced. I think until your thyroid is stable it’s a bit

hard to know what’s what with other hormonal issues.

Hope that helps.

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Hi , I too has uncontrollably heavy periods-causing anaemia- I was hypo taking T4 only. I decided to have the hysterectomy at 38 so I could get on with my life. If I had been aware of the existence of other thyroid treatments and been able to get them, maybe things would have been different, but for me it was a sensible solution to an unbearable problem. I now have full control of my hormones as I can adjust both oestrogen and progesterone if needed. thyroid treatment From: rebecca@...Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:47:19 +0000Subject: Re: HEAVY, FREQUENT PERIODS AND TOO MUCH THYROXINE

Hi

I have Graves

disease –

I was told by a gynaecologist two years ago that the

only way to treat my irregular, heavy periods was to have my womb removed (I

kid you not, I was 36!! I said NO obviously) – if the dimwit had checked

my thyroid he would have given me a totally different piece of advice. And

of course, as my thyroid hormones slowly stabilise on my treatment I am now

back on a 28 day cycle, which is a miracle as I was having periods every ten

days, but they are still heavy, but getting better.

Hope that helps.

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[Guest guest]

Hi

Thank you so much for your mail and it does help. I had never heard before that having thyroxine,too much thyroxine in the body, could cause all of the above.

Thanks ago for taking the time to read my message and replying to me.

Keep well.

Vickyanne

t: Re: HEAVY, FREQUENT PERIODS AND TOO MUCH THYROXINEthyroid treatment Date: Friday, 4 February, 2011, 8:47

Hi

I have Graves disease – ie my body is producing way, way, way too much thyroxine and I have had irregular, very heavy and painful periods. So your GP is right, that can happen. However, I have also had scant, light and very irregular periods whilst I was also hyper.

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Hi Angel

Thank you very much for your reply.

Interesting reading regading the progesterone. My daughter did try it a couple of months ago and since she stopped it the problem

has been far far worse.

You say to try oestrogen cream - my Daughter is oestrogen dominant wouldn't that add to the dominanace? or did you mean it as a form of contraceptio?

Thank again Angel. Take care

Vickyanne

From: judith franklin <angel47572000@...>Subject: HEAVY, FREQUENT PERIODS AND TOO MUCH THYROXINEthyroid treatment Date: Friday, 4 February, 2011, 12:01

Hi there, me thinks he not that well informed about female problems. use only natural products. doctors will sometimes prescribe natural progesterone suppositories or cream, but will try to get you to have the synthetic which can cause more problems than they cure. try to get natural progesterone from the doctor-this will take about three months to kick in, but could work for you. if not you can buy it privately address in our files. also you could try natural oestrogen cre

[Guest guest]

Vickyanne, your daughter sounds as if she needs to get back onto

Serenity Cream to help balance her oestrogen and progesterone levels. I would

do this without delay. Some people express enormous surprise at the terrific

effect using progesterone cream has on their health.

Luv - Sheila

Interesting reading regading the progesterone. My daughter

did try it a couple of months ago and since she stopped it the problem

has been far far worse.

You say to try oestrogen cream - my Daughter is oestrogen

dominant wouldn't that add to the dominanace? or did you mean it as a

form of contraceptio?

Thank again Angel. Take care

:

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila

Thank you so much for your message and the advice. I really appreciate it.

Take care

Vickyanne

From: Sheila <sheila@...>Subject: RE: HEAVY, FREQUENT PERIODS AND TOO MUCH THYROXINEthyroid treatment Date: Friday, 4 February, 2011, 17:39

Vickyanne, your daughter sounds as if she needs to get back onto Serenity Cream to help balance her oestrogen and progesterone levels. I would do this without delay. Some people express enormous surprise at the terrific effect using progesterone cream has on their health.

Luv - Sheila

Interesting reading regading the progesterone. My daughter did try it a couple of months ago and since she stopped it the problem

has been far far worse.

You say to try oestrogen cream - my Daughter is oestrogen dominant wouldn't that add to the dominanace? or did you mean it as a form of contraceptio?

Thank again Angel. Take care

:

[Guest guest]

Hi , how do you do this? I am deficient in both oestrogen and

progesterone. I have found a source of natural progesterone (Serenity), but not

one of natural oestrogen. The only oestrogen creams I have found are designed

to " balance " your oestrogen, rather than supplement it.

Miriam

> I too has uncontrollably heavy periods-causing anaemia- I

was hypo taking T4 only. I decided to have the hysterectomy at 38 so I could get

on with my life. If I had been aware of the existence of other thyroid

treatments and been able to get them, maybe things would have been different,

but for me it was a sensible solution to an unbearable problem. I now have full

control of my hormones as I can adjust both oestrogen and progesterone if

needed.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . I still get hot flushes, and have had them for 20 years now, but

my GP is not interested in the fact that my lab tests show low hormone levels.

She just said categorically that they never prescribe natural hormones. They

might prescribe synthetic ones if you could show the imbalance was making you

very ill.

Miriam

> I have Sandrena oestrogen gel prescribed by my GP- this was

post hysterectomy- I still got some hot flushes, then on dr. P's advice a few

years later I added in Serenity. I reduced the oeastrogen by a half and still

avoid the hor flushes,and have been stable since. now due to my age my GP wants

me to stop the HRT, but if I try to reduce it I still get the hot flushes- so

understandably I'm not keen!