RE: Re: NHS blood tests

[Guest guest]

Don't

think the NHS will do Reverse T3 - you could ask, but doubt it very much. Do

the NHS even BELIEVE there is such a condition is Reverse T3?

You

also need your ferritin, vitamin B12, folate and TPO antibodies tested. I get

the feeling this GP is playing games with you, wanting to delay doing these

tests in the hope he won't receive such a letter from Dr P, thereby saving the

NHS money. If he tries to tell you there is no connection between these

minerals or vitamin levels and hypothyroidism, then copy the following links

out to show him/her

Good

luck!

·

Low

iron/ferritin: http://www.thewayup.com/newsletters/081504.htm

and http://www.ithyroid.com/iron.htm

.. I also used the following article in our last TPA Newsletter http://www.femail.com.au/iron-levels-tony-pearce.htm

·

Low

vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

·

Low

vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

·

Low

magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

·

Low

folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

·

Low copper/zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

Also, ask him to check out the following information also.

Because doctors have not been taught in medical school about the association of

low vitamins/minerals doesn't mean there isn't a connection. We have to educate

our doctors.

VITAMIN

A AND VITAMIN D INTERACTIONS

The articles

cited above show that vitamins A and D work synergistically, not

antagonistically; if you take large amounts of vitamin A without vitamin D, you

are likely to develop symptoms of vitamin D deficiency. Likewise, if you take

large amounts of vitamin D without vitamin A, you are likely to develop

symptoms of vitamin A deficiency.

The critics

of cod liver oil seem to have very little understanding of how these vitamins

work together. In fairness, very little study has been done on the interaction

of A and D, although there is enough to show that A and D work synergystically.

Recent research from Spain indicates that vitamin A is necessary for both

vitamin D binding and vitamin D release to receptor sites. We will be reporting

on this work in an upcoming article in Wise Traditions.

Once again,

it is important to realize that traditional diets were rich in both A and D and

that A and D have a myriad of uses in the body. Traditional peoples always had

plentiful amounts of both A and D in their diets.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2008/07/23/vitamin_a_and_d_synergy_and_balance.htm

It would

appear that calcium supplements also deplete Vitamin D - everything has to be

taken in balance.

Zinc: An essential trace

mineral. The functions of zinc are enzymatic. There are over 70 metalloenzymes

known to require zinc for their functions. The main biochemicals in which zinc

has been found to be necessary include: enzymes and enzymatic function, protein

synthesis and carbohydrate metabolism. Zinc is a constituent of insulin and

male reproductive fluid. Zinc is necessary for the proper metabolism of

alcohol, to get rid of the lactic acid that builds up in working muscles and to

transfer it to the lungs. Zinc is involved in the health of the immune system,

assists vitamin A utilization and is involved in the formation of bone and

teeth.

Hypo-and

hyperzincemia has been reported to cause alterations in the adrenal secretion.

To determine the acute effect of zinc on cortisol levels, we studied 27 normal

individuals of both sexes aged 20–27 y after a 12-h fast. The tests were

initiated at 7:00am when an

antecubital vein was punctured and a device for infusion was installed and

maintained with physiological saline. Zinc was administered orally at 8:00am. Subjects were divided into an

experimental group of 13 individuals who received doses of 25, 37.5, and 50 mg

of zinc and a control group of 14 individual who received 20 mL of

physiological saline. Serial blood samples were collected over a period of 240

min after basal samples (−30 and 0 min). We detected an acute inhibitory effect

of zinc on cortisol secretion during 240 min of the study period in the

experimental group.

Circadian

variations in plasma zinc and cortisol in man.

Couturier

E, van

Onderbergen A, Bosson

D, Neve

J.

Laboratory

of Experimental Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, University of Brussels, Belgium.

Abstract

Circadian

variations of zinc and cortisol concentrations in plasma were studied in six

healthy adult men. Three of them were tested over two different 24-h periods.

Results were analyzed by computerizing a best-fit curve for each 24-h profile.

Plasma zinc displayed a morning peak between 8.00 and 9.00 a.m. followed by an

almost linear decline throughout the day with lowest values observed shortly

before 6.00 p.m. A transitory increase occurred between 6.00 p.m. and 8.00 p.m.

followed by a slow decrease reaching its nadir around midnight. Thereafter zinc

increased steadily until 8.00 a.m. A similar profile was observed in a seventh

subject who was undergoing therapeutic starvation for obesity (fifth day of the

starvation period). In all subjects the time course of plasma cortisol

fluctuations paralleled that of zinc. Our results confirm the existence of a

circadian rhythm in plasma zinc independent of zinc intake and temporally

related to the circadian rhythm of cortisol.

Luv -

Sheila

> TgAb

> Aldosterone

> Renin

> RT3

> FT3

> Sex Hormones

> Vit D3

> Copper

> Zinc

> Magnesium

All of them are available on NHS, Beki. Whether your GP is willing

to order them is a different matter. I am not 100% sure about the rT3, but

think that it can be ordered too. I know that all the others can

be done, as I had most of them checked on NHS, bar the Aldosterone and

Renin (they are more specialist parameters and perhaps an endo would need

to order those)

You may have your work cut out to persuade your GP to order them though ....

- however, you could always ask Dr. P. to write a letter to your GP.

I believe he does write to GP's if requested....

Best wishes,

[Guest guest]

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Thanks ladies brill info as usual - ta. Will enjoy have a read through those

links this evening thanks Sheila.

Oh, another two tests I forgot to ask about:

TSH Receptor Antibodies (TRAbs) - Graves antibodies

Vitamin D

Yes, I know my GP is a right pain. And I found out this week not a very honest

one - he has just been suspended for 'fraud' against the NHS. He's been paid 3

GP salaries whilst only working at one surgery!!! - and he has the cheek to

deny me a few blood tests!!!??? >{

Obviously

needed to save the NHS sufficient money so that he could carry on getting paid

3 GP's salaries. Wow, what an absolute cheek. At least, you will not have to

suffer him anymore Beki.

If

you go to Google and type in 'thyroid receptor antibodies test' and the name of

your local primary care trust, you should be able to get up the guidelines for

your area, which will show that yes, they do such a test. As far as vitamin D,

I gave a link or two in my last message. It is very important that vitamin D is

tested for those with symptoms of hypothyroidism.

Luv

- Sheila

Any website or link that shows that the NHS does these tests to help me have

more 'clout' facing the GP?

Ive looked myself and cant find anything.

Thanks again, you are stars.

Beki x

>

> Don't think the NHS will do Reverse T3 - you could ask, but doubt it very

much. Do the NHS even BELIEVE there is such a condition is Reverse T3?

>

> You also need your ferritin, vitamin B12, folate and TPO antibodies

tested. I get the feeling this GP is playing games with you, wanting to delay

doing these tests in the hope he won't receive such a letter from Dr P, thereby

saving the NHS money. If he tries to tell you there is no connection between

these minerals or vitamin levels and hypothyroidism, then copy the following

links out to show him/her

>

>